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Title: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: Steve McKagan on October 22, 2007, 03:33:29 PM
(http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/9587/kevnoodlehouse250qk2.jpg)

The new album by Brain and Buckethead is called "Kevin's Noodle House" and is released 10/30/07 on TDRS Music (http://www.tdrsmusic.com/)


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: greendog on October 22, 2007, 03:46:08 PM
'Kevin's Noodle House'... I know this is really shallow, but I cant take an album with a name such as that seriously. Nothing to do with Bucketheads wierdness, nothing to do with Brain. Il probably download and delete.


Cheers for the info.


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: CSS on October 22, 2007, 04:16:12 PM
Thanks for posting.

I'll probably get it once it's released.

But I'm so far behind with Buckethead's catalouge since it feels like he's released a million records in less than a year...


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: Robman? on October 22, 2007, 04:33:25 PM
Yeah, he has. It seems he has the cash these days to record any peace of crap an release it. Kinda puts no value on his albums.

Brain is working with Buckethead now? thats strange.


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: CSS on October 22, 2007, 04:34:45 PM
Brain is working with Buckethead now? thats strange.

How so?

They have since the early 1990's.


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: Kov on October 22, 2007, 04:36:06 PM
Doesn't anyone feel like it's a mockery of Chinese Democracy?

I mean, look at it.


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: evergreen_layne on October 22, 2007, 04:38:16 PM
Doesn't anyone feel like it's a mockery of Chinese Democracy?

I mean, look at it.

Wow so true.  That's hilarious.  Your turn Axl.  I wonder how the mod's will handle this topic.  You can't move it to the "Ex-Members" section because Brain is supposedly still in the band right?   :yes:


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: Robman? on October 22, 2007, 04:39:41 PM
Brain is working with Buckethead now? thats strange.

How so?

They have since the early 1990's.

I mean, you'd think these kind of decisions about who they work with would go through Axl.


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: CSS on October 22, 2007, 04:49:43 PM
I mean, you'd think these kind of decisions about who they work with would go through Axl.

Uhm, what? :hihi:

And they have worked together previously after Buckethead left Guns N' Roses.


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: chineseblues on October 22, 2007, 04:52:09 PM
Brain is working with Buckethead now? thats strange.

How so?

They have since the early 1990's.

I mean, you'd think these kind of decisions about who they work with would go through Axl.

Why? Do you think the guy's have to ask Axl before they do everything? So I guess they call him up and go "Axl man I gotta take a shit, is that ok with you?"  ???


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: Robman? on October 22, 2007, 05:13:04 PM
Brain is working with Buckethead now? thats strange.

How so?

They have since the early 1990's.

I mean, you'd think these kind of decisions about who they work with would go through Axl.

Why? Do you think the guy's have to ask Axl before they do everything? So I guess they call him up and go "Axl man I gotta take a shit, is that ok with you?"  ???

If thats a part of their contract and they're legally bound to do so, then yes.


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: GNRreunioneventually on October 22, 2007, 05:17:50 PM
sorry to sound like a n00b and go off topic, but what album is Jordan on and where can i get it?

thanks in advanced :peace:


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: D on October 22, 2007, 05:19:36 PM
Shouldn't this be in the Ex Gunners section since its basically two ex members if u want to call them that. ???


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: chineseblues on October 22, 2007, 05:20:03 PM
Brain is working with Buckethead now? thats strange.

How so?

They have since the early 1990's.

I mean, you'd think these kind of decisions about who they work with would go through Axl.

Why? Do you think the guy's have to ask Axl before they do everything? So I guess they call him up and go "Axl man I gotta take a shit, is that ok with you?"  ???

If thats a part of their contract and they're legally bound to do so, then yes.

Why would Axl even care who they work with on their own time? Brain has been working with Bucket off and on even after Bucket quit the band....


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: CSS on October 22, 2007, 05:22:46 PM
sorry to sound like a n00b and go off topic, but what album is Jordan on and where can i get it?

It was recorded for the game Guitar Hero II.

I guess you have to download it.

Shouldn't this be in the Ex Gunners section since its basically two ex members if u want to call them that.

Probably. (Brain is still in the band, though)

And what is your name suggestion for the two?


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: D on October 22, 2007, 05:37:38 PM
How can Brain be still in the band when Frank has probably drummed at more shows? 


I don't consider someone a true member till they release original material of their own within the band.

For instance

Bruce Kulick for me didn't become a member of Kiss until they released "Asylum" in 1984 I think it was. When he took over for Mark St. John on the Animalize tour, he was still a hired gun.

When he wrote and contributed to an album,t hats when he became a member.


So until we get an album, I dont really consider anyone a member. : ok:


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: jarmo on October 22, 2007, 05:40:39 PM
So until we get an album, I dont really consider anyone a member. : ok:


Thank you, drive through.

I guess you're not a member of your own band then.  :hihi:




/jarmo


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: CSS on October 22, 2007, 05:41:28 PM
So until we get an album, I dont really consider anyone a member.

Well, I guess that I'll have to respect your opinion.

So when they release an album they're members according to you, but until then, they're not...?

But they've been in the band all along! :hihi:


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: jarmo on October 22, 2007, 05:42:40 PM
So until we get an album, I dont really consider anyone a member.

Well, I guess that I'll have to respect your opinion.

So when they release an album they're members according to you, but until then, they're not...?

But they've been in the band all along! :hihi:


Apparently bands who play live but haven't released albums don't have any members.  :hihi:




/jarmo


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: Ali on October 22, 2007, 05:47:46 PM
So until we get an album, I dont really consider anyone a member.

Well, I guess that I'll have to respect your opinion.

So when they release an album they're members according to you, but until then, they're not...?

But they've been in the band all along! :hihi:


Apparently bands who play live but haven't released albums don't have any members.? :hihi:




/jarmo

Excellent point.  Kinda hard to have a memberless band and play live.

Ali


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: GNRreunioneventually on October 22, 2007, 05:55:27 PM
sorry to sound like a n00b and go off topic, but what album is Jordan on and where can i get it?

It was recorded for the game Guitar Hero II.

I guess you have to download it.


i know it was but that was a different version that was on GH II.

so its not on any album????


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: freddiebrph on October 22, 2007, 05:56:57 PM
So until we get an album, I dont really consider anyone a member.

Well, I guess that I'll have to respect your opinion.

So when they release an album they're members according to you, but until then, they're not...?

But they've been in the band all along! :hihi:


Apparently bands who play live but haven't released albums don't have any members.? :hihi:




/jarmo

No, Most "bands" that only play live and cant produce anything on their own are called cover bands


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: Ali on October 22, 2007, 06:02:17 PM
So until we get an album, I dont really consider anyone a member.

Well, I guess that I'll have to respect your opinion.

So when they release an album they're members according to you, but until then, they're not...?

But they've been in the band all along! :hihi:


Apparently bands who play live but haven't released albums don't have any members.? :hihi:




/jarmo

No, Most "bands" that only play live and cant produce anything on their own are called cover bands

Even if that is what you want to call them, which is complete crap but another discussion altogether, those kinds of "bands" still are composed of band members.

Ali


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: jarmo on October 22, 2007, 06:16:47 PM
So until we get an album, I dont really consider anyone a member.

Well, I guess that I'll have to respect your opinion.

So when they release an album they're members according to you, but until then, they're not...?

But they've been in the band all along! :hihi:


Apparently bands who play live but haven't released albums don't have any members.  :hihi:




/jarmo

No, Most "bands" that only play live and cant produce anything on their own are called cover bands


So GN'R was a cover band up until December 1986....

Got it.

 :rofl:



/jarmo


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: grog mug on October 22, 2007, 08:36:32 PM
Everyone needs to quit dissing Buckethead.  He is one of the best guitarist ever.  If you see him live you'll become an instant fan.  I'm def. buying the album!


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: greendog on October 22, 2007, 08:37:56 PM
So until we get an album, I dont really consider anyone a member.

Well, I guess that I'll have to respect your opinion.

So when they release an album they're members according to you, but until then, they're not...?

But they've been in the band all along! :hihi:


Apparently bands who play live but haven't released albums don't have any members.? :hihi:




/jarmo

No, Most "bands" that only play live and cant produce anything on their own are called cover bands

sorry. but have you not heard them perform the ORIGINAL songs?


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: ibelieveinaxl on October 22, 2007, 09:34:34 PM
Everyone needs to quit dissing Buckethead.? He is one of the best guitarist ever.? If you see him live you'll become an instant fan.? I'm def. buying the album!

BH is a genius. He is an awesome player and is really missed in the band. I saw 15 shows with him in the band and he was special. Just give credit where credit is due and give the man some props...


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: Steve McKagan on October 23, 2007, 01:32:45 AM
sorry to sound like a n00b and go off topic, but what album is Jordan on and where can i get it?

It was recorded for the game Guitar Hero II.

I guess you have to download it.


i know it was but that was a different version that was on GH II.

so its not on any album????
No, it's not. I have forgotten where I got my version of it but it is studio and great sound quality.


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: Steve McKagan on October 23, 2007, 01:33:34 AM
I hope this CD will have some funky beats like the music they did in Praxis.


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: Death Cube K on October 23, 2007, 02:59:43 AM
Kevin? Kevin?!

Maybe it's more like "Axl's noodle house"?

 :hihi:


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: Jim Bob on October 23, 2007, 03:19:42 AM
How can Brain be still in the band when Frank has probably drummed at more shows? 


I don't consider someone a true member till they release original material of their own within the band.

For instance

Bruce Kulick for me didn't become a member of Kiss until they released "Asylum" in 1984 I think it was. When he took over for Mark St. John on the Animalize tour, he was still a hired gun.

When he wrote and contributed to an album,t hats when he became a member.


So until we get an album, I dont really consider anyone a member. : ok:

you've got some strange logic there.


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: Jay Tea on October 23, 2007, 03:59:42 AM
Doesn't anyone feel like it's a mockery of Chinese Democracy?

I mean, look at it.

yes, after you mentioned it.

excellent observation.

slightly more subtle than "Chinese Food Democracy" for an album title


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: Loaded NightraiN on October 23, 2007, 07:05:08 AM

I guess you're not a member of your own band then.? :hihi:


He's got ya there D  :hihi:


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: Bartlet on October 23, 2007, 08:44:30 AM
sorry to sound like a n00b and go off topic, but what album is Jordan on and where can i get it?

It was recorded for the game Guitar Hero II.

I guess you have to download it.


i know it was but that was a different version that was on GH II.

so its not on any album????


Who is jordan, and what the hell is he doin in gnr...?


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: gunns1 on October 23, 2007, 09:13:01 AM
sorry to sound like a n00b and go off topic, but what album is Jordan on and where can i get it?

It was recorded for the game Guitar Hero II.

I guess you have to download it.


i know it was but that was a different version that was on GH II.

so its not on any album????


Who is jordan, and what the hell is he doin in gnr...?

Jordan is a Buckethead song,

and Buckethead used to be in gnr,

theirs your connection, voila :beer:


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: Bartlet on October 23, 2007, 09:29:43 AM
sorry to sound like a n00b and go off topic, but what album is Jordan on and where can i get it?

It was recorded for the game Guitar Hero II.

I guess you have to download it.


i know it was but that was a different version that was on GH II.

so its not on any album????


Who is jordan, and what the hell is he doin in gnr...?

Jordan is a Buckethead song,

and Buckethead used to be in gnr,

theirs your connection, voila :beer:


Cheers!


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: Jim Bob on October 23, 2007, 09:51:45 AM

I guess you're not a member of your own band then.  :hihi:


He's got ya there D  :hihi:

its funny how people think they have some kind of authority to decide who is or isn't a band member.      Unless D is Axl Rose, his opinion doesn't mean shit.


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: ppbebe on October 23, 2007, 12:16:55 PM
Basically why people keep acting like they've seen the contract? seems as if to their mind Axl has to be such a control freak as to interfere in each member's affair outside of the band. Where did they get the idea?

Doesn't anyone feel like it's a mockery of Chinese Democracy?

I mean, look at it.

nope. he has an album called "Chicken Noodles". is it to mock Campbells and Warhol?


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: ppbebe on October 23, 2007, 03:27:01 PM
For all we know, Brain has quit too.

I don't know of that. I heard he was in GNR family and I haven't heard otherwise yet.


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: thegame2000 on October 23, 2007, 04:43:08 PM
OK, a couple stupid questions from me:

1)  If Brain is still in the band, why has Frank been with them exclusively since the US tour in '06?  (I'm not being an ass, I'm serious.  Why wasn't he there?  Was it because his wife had recently given birth?)

2)  Why would Axl give a shit if Brain and Buckethead work together?  Tommy has released stuff outside GNR, Dizzy has done a bunch of shows, etc.  I don't think Axl *hates* Buckethead, so it shouldn't bother Axl if Brain works with him.  And if neither are in the band, it's none of Axl's business anyway.


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: younggunner on October 23, 2007, 08:43:55 PM
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2)? Why would Axl give a shit if Brain and Buckethead work together?? Tommy has released stuff outside GNR, Dizzy has done a bunch of shows, etc.? I don't think Axl *hates* Buckethead, so it shouldn't bother Axl if Brain works with him.? And if neither are in the band, it's none of Axl's business anyway.

I too dont think Axl hates Bucket. heck he tried getting Bucket back right before the Hammerstein SHows.

Hopefully we get to hear the whole Buckethead story one day and why he left/fired/quit. My guess is a little of everything.

Its a tough call now though. The chemistry of this band...particulary off the stage has never been better. This current band seems to be having fun with each other off stage. That was one of the main complaints a few yrs back. That has clearly changed.

With that being said, imo the best lineup is one that includes Bucket and Brain. I love Bummble too though but I just think Bucket brings a different dynamic onstage. Not just in terms of appearance but in terms of his playing. The best way I can describe him is that he is explosive. His playing is brilliant and he is very dynamic. I love Bucket but it doesnt look like the door is open for him anymore. The ship was once there waiting for him but I do think it has sailed.

I also dont think he got along with the other members. I think he and Axl were cool but in terms of Tommy, RObin, etc Im not sure they all meshed. Bucket is or atleast seems like a weird guy. So that might have rubbed people the wrong way.

So its a double edged sword. But if I could script it I would have him back in the band. His abilities and creativity are well worth any lack of chem off stage. But no cryin over spilled milk i guess.

As long as anything that he added that raises the songs potential stays on the album Ill be happy with that. I doubt Axl will keep Buckets parts off if they raised the bar on the songs. Axl is aiming to put the best possible product out there when its all said and done....

heres a question for you all...

now that we have seen both sides....would you give up some band chemistry...particulary off stage for Buckets abilities and potential? ?
 
or

would you rather have the band the way it is in terms of them having exceptional chemistry off stage with maybe not as much potential with Bumble?

(im not saying bumble isnt talented..he clearly is but hes not Buckethead)



Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: AdZ on October 23, 2007, 09:50:50 PM
(im not saying bumble isnt talented..he clearly is but hes not Buckethead)

Me neither.

Then again, I'm not better.


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: thegame2000 on October 23, 2007, 10:38:32 PM
That's a tough question.  I would hope that the guys would all be professsional enough that they could put up with a little "weirdness" in exchange for Buckethead's talent.  Ron is obviously a great guitarist (he'd have to be to cover Bucket's parts to begin with), but Buckethead is a visionary.

And yeah, the bucket is kind of goofy, and the whole wearing a mask and never talking is creepy.  But I think he's got great stage presence-- this freakishly tall guy with a huge guitar, barely moving, but ripping incredible sounds out of his guitar.  Really, what's more important, how you look, or how you play?

So, I'd sacrifice 'a more rock and roll look' and a little bit of unity for incredible talent.


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: Bruno Poeys on October 24, 2007, 02:54:54 AM
I too dont think Axl hates Bucket. heck he tried getting Bucket back right before the Hammerstein SHows.
I heard that too, but is that accurate? I know that Gn'R contacted Bumblefoot back in '04, but he joined the band one week before the first hammerstein show.

now that we have seen both sides....would you give up some band chemistry...particulary off stage for Buckets abilities and potential  ?
 
or

would you rather have the band the way it is in terms of them having exceptional chemistry off stage with maybe not as much potential with Bumble?

(im not saying bumble isnt talented..he clearly is but hes not Buckethead)
Well, you don't know Bumblefoot enough. He's as good as Buckethead, if not better. I'm not trying to start a fight or anything like that, but you probably don't know Ron's solo work enough.
Bumblefoot joined the band last year and he recorded some rhythm guitar parts to give the songs a classical rock-vibe. The new songs were too much mechanized, then he borrowed an old Les Paul from the talking metal guys and recorded some rhythm guitar parts. If you hear a classic-rock vibe on the new songs it's Ron Thal's guitar. ;)


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: grog mug on October 24, 2007, 03:00:22 AM
I would definitely sacrifice Bumblefoot (even though hes great) for Buckethead.  Hes the greatest guitarist around, and it TORE ME APART to see him go!!!


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: cyllan on October 24, 2007, 04:21:15 AM
And yeah, the bucket is kind of goofy, and the whole wearing a mask and never talking is creepy.? But I think he's got great stage presence-- this freakishly tall guy with a huge guitar, barely moving, but ripping incredible sounds out of his guitar.? Really, what's more important, how you look, or how you play?

I'd have to disagree here with regard to Buckethead's stage presence; when I saw the band in 2002, I felt that a major part of what was lacking in the band's live performance was down to B'head's lack of interaction with both the audience and other band members.? He may be a fantastic guitarist but to be a great live performer you have to be able to project your personality and connect emotionally with the audience, and I felt that, particularly by wearing the mask, he was deliberately distancing himself from everyone.

It's just my opinion, obviously, but I consider the addition of Ron to the band to be the masterstroke that took the band to the next level and, all being well, will lead to the release of CD.? His on-stage presence can't be faulted and his guitar playing has an organic feel that, to me at least, is far more representative of the spirit of GNR.? I love the way the band sounds live now and the energy and chemistry between the band members on stage in 2006 was a joy to behold.


Title: Re: New album by Brain and Buckethead
Post by: elmir on October 24, 2007, 05:55:43 AM
1)  If Brain is still in the band, why has Frank been with them exclusively since the US tour in '06?  (I'm not being an ass, I'm serious.  Why wasn't he there?  Was it because his wife had recently given birth?)

the answer we got was that he asked to be removed from the roster because his wife gave birth.....anything else is nothing but speculation.

my thinking is that considering we know that the band went on tour to get a money injection to finish off the project, perhaps Brain's fee as a session musician was higher than any other drummer out there. So the bands management could have suggested that (considering no new new songs are to be played) that they fill his part with someone more affordable....

again, nothing but speculation.

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2)  Why would Axl give a shit if Brain and Buckethead work together?  Tommy has released stuff outside GNR, Dizzy has done a bunch of shows, etc.  I don't think Axl *hates* Buckethead, so it shouldn't bother Axl if Brain works with him.  And if neither are in the band, it's none of Axl's business anyway.

i don't think Axl cares, to be honest.....musicians have to live too....so if they decide to work outside of the gnr fold, (unless specified in contract of employment)...there should be no problems....

we never heard axl say anything bad about anyone's side project.....in fact, when he did speak about those...he was always polite, and pleasant....

so the idea that he may be pissed off about it is just nonsense....