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Title: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on January 03, 2008, 04:58:46 PM
The article is in Spanish...thanks to Voodoochild for the translation. : ok:


VELVET REVOLVER BRAKING UP?

Confunsing news has been floating around these days around the band. On www.rock-star.es, we were told through our US reporter, Michael Wainwright, that Slash and Duff McKagan have been in talking to some singers, with rumors about Paul Black from LA Guns and Perry Farrel from Jane's Addiction among other singers who would be hable to audition to joing Velvet Revolver to replace Scott Weiland, whose situation in the band looks like very damaged.

According to www.totalrock.com, there will indeed be a statement from the managers in which they will announce the cancelation of the next Australian tour that the band were schueduled to do in December. The reason given was "health problems", but the statement didn't say who was ill. Other sources says that the inside situation of the band is a total mess because of Scott Weiland's drug problems, the bad performances in their last leg of American tour and for and the poor sales of their last album, 'Libertad'. All of which would be affecting their excitement, specially from Slash and Duff to walk away from the project and brake up the Velvet Revolver. We stay tuned at any news as they show up.

http://www.rock-star.es/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=174&Itemid=43

01.12.2007

Credit to izbo


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: JimBobTTD on January 03, 2008, 05:12:55 PM
Looks like general speculation to me. It's over a month old, and the band have scheduled concert dates since then and played gigs.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: faldor on January 03, 2008, 06:14:06 PM
Yeah I don't know about that.  There are a number of spelling and grammatical errors in that article.  That doesn't seem very official to me.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on January 03, 2008, 06:20:01 PM
Yeah I don't know about that.  There are a number of spelling and grammatical errors in that article.  That doesn't seem very official to me.

It was translated from Spanish...unless you are commenting on the original article?


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: faldor on January 03, 2008, 06:27:46 PM
Yeah I don't know about that.? There are a number of spelling and grammatical errors in that article.? That doesn't seem very official to me.

It was translated from Spanish...unless you are commenting on the original article?
Oh, ok.  My bad.  Good translation then.  I could see there being trouble with the band.  It's certainly a believable story.  Not sure who could save the band as a lead singer though.  It's not like Scott Weiland is a slouch.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Voodoochild on January 03, 2008, 06:28:02 PM
Yeah, I did a lot of fuck ups because it was kinda in hurry and I don't know Spanish that well, but I guess it's pretty much close to the original in its means. :)


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: faldor on January 03, 2008, 06:30:35 PM
Yeah, I did a lot of fuck ups because it was kinda in hurry and I don't know Spanish that well, but I guess it's pretty much close to the original in its means. :)
Yeah sorry about that.  My reading comprehension is lacking today as I completely glossed over the first sentence stating that it was translated.  A job well done on translating.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: SpiritDave on January 03, 2008, 10:20:43 PM
Looks like general speculation to me. It's over a month old, and the band have scheduled concert dates since then and played gigs.

Of course man.  Total bullshit as usual.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: jarmo on January 18, 2008, 10:22:11 AM
Even Duff isn't sure if they'll make another album:

?I?m lucky I suppose,? said McKagan ?my passion is also my living. This band has allowed all of us who might have been relegated to ?you were in a good band but it?s over now? file to show that we are still musically viable.?

Despite having been a key member in what many consider to be one of the greatest rock bands of all time McKagan is still hesitant about what lies ahead. ?I never try to plan out my future. I?ve learned from experience,? McKagan said ?there are so many different lives going on within a band. Some people have to go back to a family and kids. I hope that we will make a third album I really do. But if we don?t at least I can say it was a good time.?


http://www.luminomagazine.com/mw/content/view/2341/1 (http://www.luminomagazine.com/mw/content/view/2341/1)



/jarmo


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Smoking Guns on January 18, 2008, 10:29:40 AM
Even Duff isn't sure if they'll make another album:

Despite having been a key member in what many consider to be one of the greatest rock bands of all time McKagan is still hesitant about what lies ahead. ?I never try to plan out my future. I?ve learned from experience,? McKagan said ?there are so many different lives going on within a band. Some people have to go back to a family and kids. I hope that we will make a third album I really do. But if we don?t at least I can say it was a good time.?

http://www.luminomagazine.com/mw/content/view/2341/1 (http://www.luminomagazine.com/mw/content/view/2341/1)



/jarmo


Is this quote referring to a GNR reunion?  The first sentence confuses me.  Says eventhough he was a member of GNR, he is not sure about his future about VR.  That doesn't make sense.  As long as they are happy that is all that matters to me.  I hope it works out for everyone.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: jarmo on January 18, 2008, 10:36:01 AM
No.

It's about how he was part of the biggest band in the world and now is in another successful band.

But he's not sure if his current band will carry on making a third album or not.






/jarmo



Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Smoking Guns on January 18, 2008, 10:40:26 AM
No.

It's about how he was part of the biggest band in the world and now is in another successful band.

But he's not sure if his current band will carry on making a third album or not.






/jarmo



I know that is what they meant, by why did they have to bring up that he was in GNR in the same sentence if he is not sure about his future, like being in GNR makes him more sure of his future or something?!?!?!?!


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: jarmo on January 18, 2008, 10:41:15 AM
I added the previous paragraph so it makes more sense.



/jarmo


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Smoking Guns on January 18, 2008, 10:56:24 AM
Thanks!   : ok:


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on January 21, 2008, 05:30:53 PM
Looks like they made their choice.... ;D


944 Magazine Presents The Bravery And Velvet Revolver

PARK CITY, UT - JANUARY 20: Actor Donovan Leitch performs with Velvet Revolver during the 944 Magazine's party with the Bravery and Velvet Revolver held at TAO during the Sundance Film Festival on January 20, 2008 in Park City, Utah. (Photo by Mat Szwajkos/Getty Images)

Some photos below at:

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?contractUrl=1&language=en-US&family=editorial&p=velvet%20revolver&src=standard



Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Feel_The_Burn on January 21, 2008, 05:32:02 PM
Looks like they made their choice.... ;D


944 Magazine Presents The Bravery And Velvet Revolver

PARK CITY, UT - JANUARY 20: Actor Donovan Leitch performs with Velvet Revolver during the 944 Magazine's party with the Bravery and Velvet Revolver held at TAO during the Sundance Film Festival on January 20, 2008 in Park City, Utah. (Photo by Mat Szwajkos/Getty Images)

Some photos below at:

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?contractUrl=1&language=en-US&family=editorial&p=velvet%20revolver&src=standard



Ouch , So far we have VR playing with someone else and Scott talking about STP reunions,,,,  :nervous:


Title: Weiland says to look for STP reunion in the coming months!
Post by: guns_n_motley on January 21, 2008, 05:59:22 PM
VELVET REVOLVER frontman Scott Weiland has told MiamiHerald.com that fans should be on the lookout for a reunion of his previous band, STONE TEMPLE PILOTS, in the coming months. The singer made the announcement during an appearance this past Saturday (January 19) at an all-star gala event benefiting the AROD Family Foundation. The event took place at the Ritz Carlton hotel in South Beach, Florida. Hosts included Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez and his wife Cynthia, who founded the non-profit organization to support programs focused on improving quality of life, education and mental health for families in distress.

STONE TEMPLE PILOTS guitarist Dean DeLeo and bassist Robert DeLeo confirmed the band's split in 2003 following the release of the group's greatest-hits package, "Thank You".

"It was time to move on to other things," Dean told Guitar One magazine at the time. "Life and personalities and brotherhood took its course."

"Dean and [drummer] Eric [Kretz] and myself, I think, all feel a sense of sadness, relief, anger, melancholy about it," said Robert. "But to try and go and accomplish something with this band after we've already peaked is a bit cheesy. There's a cheese factor with guys hitting 40 trying to recapture glory.

"There's no way to go but out."

Weiland was expected to appear in a Los Angeles courtroom last Thursday (January 17), where his recent DUI case was to be continued. The singer was charged with driving under the influence of drugs after being pulled over by police in late November.

VELVET REVOLVER will begin a new U.S. tour on January 24 in Chicago, with dates confirmed through February 9.

guess that means the whole writing in April has gone to hell.... ::)


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on January 21, 2008, 06:21:48 PM
Paris HIlton, rock drummer?

She certainly had no problems playing pinch hitter at Tao last night in Park City, Utah, when band Velvet Revolver was short their lead singer Scott Weiland.

Speculation from inside the band's camp said the singer had missed his flight to Sundance for the performance, but that didn't stop his band mates from literally asking the crowd if they wanted to have a go.

"It's was crazy, they were inviting anyone who wanted to get up sing," an onlooker told PageSix.com.

While Paris, who released an album in the summer of 2006, didn't sing a note, she told the crowd, "This is Tao! Let's have a good time!"

http://www.pagesix.com/story/paris+beats+tao



Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: CheapJon on January 21, 2008, 06:25:55 PM
that's a show i'd pay to see, VR without scott and me singing it's so easy  :rofl:


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Ali on January 21, 2008, 06:27:29 PM
Why wasn't Scott there?  Anyone know?

Ali


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Feel_The_Burn on January 21, 2008, 06:46:14 PM
Paris HIlton, rock drummer?

She certainly had no problems playing pinch hitter at Tao last night in Park City, Utah, when band Velvet Revolver was short their lead singer Scott Weiland.

Speculation from inside the band's camp said the singer had missed his flight to Sundance for the performance, but that didn't stop his band mates from literally asking the crowd if they wanted to have a go.

"It's was crazy, they were inviting anyone who wanted to get up sing," an onlooker told PageSix.com.

While Paris, who released an album in the summer of 2006, didn't sing a note, she told the crowd, "This is Tao! Let's have a good time!"

http://www.pagesix.com/story/paris+beats+tao




Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Ali on January 21, 2008, 06:51:40 PM
Paris HIlton, rock drummer?

She certainly had no problems playing pinch hitter at Tao last night in Park City, Utah, when band Velvet Revolver was short their lead singer Scott Weiland.

Speculation from inside the band's camp said the singer had missed his flight to Sundance for the performance, but that didn't stop his band mates from literally asking the crowd if they wanted to have a go.

"It's was crazy, they were inviting anyone who wanted to get up sing," an onlooker told PageSix.com.

While Paris, who released an album in the summer of 2006, didn't sing a note, she told the crowd, "This is Tao! Let's have a good time!"

http://www.pagesix.com/story/paris+beats+tao



Yes, I understand, but WHY did he miss the flight is what I'm wondering.  Did he oversleep, have another commitment and was pressed for time, etc.?  Has anyone heard anything as to the underlying reason why he missed the flight?  Was it just due to the gala he was at?  I find it hard to believe he couldn't have just hopped a flight to Utah.

Ali


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on January 21, 2008, 07:05:40 PM
From the...

Speculation from inside the band's camp

It sounds like VR were not sure.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Ali on January 21, 2008, 07:58:30 PM
From the...

Speculation from inside the band's camp

It sounds like VR were not sure.

Yeah, I figured as much, but I was wondering if there were any rumors or anything else out there.

Ali


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: AdZ on January 21, 2008, 08:14:55 PM
Well, evidently there are not.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on January 21, 2008, 08:56:14 PM
Looks like Matt stepped in...

Velvet Revolver without Weiland. Sorum Sings Patience

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Jd8xb-htQ6c



Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Ali on January 21, 2008, 08:59:14 PM
Looks like Matt stepped in...

Velvet Revolver without Weiland. Sorum Sings Patience

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Jd8xb-htQ6c



He sounded alright on the few lines there, but the money part is the outtro.

Ali


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: fuckin crazy on January 21, 2008, 09:50:34 PM
Damn! First of all, I hope Scott is all right, second, if he does leave the band, I hope Izzy comes back. With that kind of talent, they wouldn't have to have a front man anyway.

Unlikely, but I can wish.




Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Trist805 on January 21, 2008, 10:32:18 PM
Looks like everyone else made it to the show, execpt Scott.   Missed his flight?... I don't know if that is a reasonable excuse.    That is pretty fucked up to do to the band also.  That and the STP announcement, it is starting to look like the end of VR.   This sucks cuz VR is one of my fav. bands, but I guess I should have known.   Hope it isn't true, but I think so. 


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: williambailey on January 21, 2008, 10:37:31 PM
Missed his flight - I call BS!

If his comment about looking out for a STP reunion was accurate I'm guessing he has decided to pull the pin from VR and didn't bother to tell his bandmates., presumably because there is a fair bit of animosity between them and him at the moment, probably stemming from his DUI case and cancelled tour dates and lost $$'s!


Title: Weiland: STP Reunion "Imminent", No Shows
Post by: mrbucketfoot on January 21, 2008, 11:07:14 PM
Looks like someone wouldn't quit dancing with Mr. Goddamn-Brownstone.  :P

Quote
VELVET REVOLVER frontman Scott Weiland was a no-show for the band's scheduled performance last night (Sunday, January 20) at the 944 Magazine's party at Tao during the Sundance Film Festival in Park City, Utah. According to PageSix.com, "speculation from inside the band's camp said the singer had missed his flight to Sundance for the performance, but that didn't stop his bandmates from literally asking the crowd if they wanted to have a go."

Quote
VELVET REVOLVER frontman Scott Weiland has told MiamiHerald.com that fans should be on the lookout for a reunion of his previous band, STONE TEMPLE PILOTS, in the coming months. The singer made the announcement during an appearance this past Saturday (January 19) at an all-star gala event benefiting the AROD Family Foundation. The event took place at the Ritz Carlton hotel in South Beach, Florida. Hosts included Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez and his wife Cynthia, who founded the non-profit organization to support programs focused on improving quality of life, education and mental health for families in distress.

Source:
  • http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=88936
  • http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=88949

Sorry about posting new topic.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: lynn1961 on January 22, 2008, 01:34:04 AM
I've got to give those guys a LOT of credit for going on with the show without a lead singer - well, without their regular one anyway!!   They could have cancelled, but didn't.   

Obviously, we don't know if this was a one-time thing or if there is true trouble in paradise.  That remains to be seen, I guess.   


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: fuckin crazy on January 22, 2008, 01:39:00 AM
Lynn, from experience ... "Serenity Prayer"


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: don_vercetti on January 22, 2008, 08:05:14 AM
Anymore vidoes of VR minus their lead doofus?

Would be too cool man if they got Izzy in the fold. 


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on January 22, 2008, 02:26:35 PM
SUNDANCE, SNOWBUNNYS, and GIFTING SUITES?SWEET!!!

January 21st, 2008 - Posted By: Cisco Adler

After the meal it was upstairs to TAO again for the VELVET REVOLVER show. Literally as I walk in I get a call from DONOVAN saying Scott Weiland missed his flight and the guys wanted to know if I could fill in. WHAT? The friggin answer is YES! Next thing I know Im backstage with DUFF, SLASH, MATT SORUM and the boys learnibng some tunes that Im gonna have to rock out for the sold out crowd waiting for VELVET FUCKING REVOLVER. The funny thing is I was never even one bit nervous. The stage is my home and the fact that my heroes just asked me to front the band for the evening(3 songs) was a dream come true but also a chance for me to show these motherfuckers that I can handle-randal. Most people know me for the wrong reasons and have no idea that I have actual talent?let alone the ?BALLS? to rock out in front of thousands of people with the greatest rock n rollers of our day after a 10 minute cramming session to learn the tunes. I sang ROCK N ROLL by ZEPELLIN, FEEL LIKE MAKIN LOVE by KID ROCK, and held down the back ups on HONKY TONK WOMAN. Look left and SLASH is ripping hall of fame solos and behind me GUNS N ROSES actual rythm section is rolling and rumbling like thunder through my chest. I may not have made it yet?but I definitely have arrived! hahah I cannot wait to see the pictures!!!! We took a band shot to which is gonna be classic! I finished up the set, said goodbye to my new bandmates, and rushed outside where we had two HUMMERS waiting to take us up to the GREEN DOOR MANSION for our secret performance.

http://www.eatskeet.com/2008/01/21/sundance-snowbunnys-and-gifting-suitessweet/

A couple of photo here:

http://www.filmmagic.com/ItemListing.aspx?cgl=300655&EventI=0&navtyp=CAL&ym=20081


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: JimBobTTD on January 22, 2008, 02:51:28 PM
Feel Like Makin' Love by Kid Rock? Is someone trying to take Bad Company's sole claim to fame away from them?


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: overmatik on January 22, 2008, 03:54:29 PM
First of all, let's wait. Of course there's something wrong going on in the band, but the circumstances are still unknown.

This talk about the reunion is very strange indeed, how can he go out and just say that "there's a reunion" coming on? For an album, a concert?? Strange... ???

I like VR, but I like STP better, so, despite I don't believe in a full reunion, as the broke up back in 2003 was very tense among the members, I'm excited with the news... :hihi:

P.S. I don't know, but supergroups like VR are too dependent on success, they kind of need this to stick together... :-\


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on January 22, 2008, 09:13:55 PM
SCOTT WEILAND Explains SUNDANCE Concert No-Show - Jan. 22, 2008

BLABBERMOUTH.NET has received an official statement from VELVET REVOLVER's publicist regarding frontman Scott Weiland's absence from the band's concert Sunday night (January 20) at the 944 Magazine's party at Tao during the Sundance Film Festival in Park City, Utah. It reads as follows:

"On Sunday, January 20, the private plane that Scott was traveling on from Miami (where he performed the night before at the AROD Family Foundation and Bay Point Schools benefit) to Utah was diverted because of bad weather. The pilot wouldn't fly from Miami to the Salt Lake City Airport because of extremely poor visibility and a potential poor weather system that made it dangerous for the plane to fly to Salt Lake City. Two hours into the flight, it was diverted to the Van Nuys Airport (in Los Angeles).

"Scott, the band and management tried to find a flight to take him from Van Nuys to Salt Lake City in time for the band's show, but this was not possible. By the time Scott landed at the Van Nuys airport, it was too late to make any connecting flights. VELVET REVOLVER's tour manager also looked into private flights for Scott, but a crew was not available in time for an immediate departure that would have brought him to the show on time."



Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: cotis on January 22, 2008, 09:27:44 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Jd8xb-htQ6c

Sorum singing Patience.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Feel_The_Burn on January 22, 2008, 09:51:44 PM
SUNDANCE, SNOWBUNNYS, and GIFTING SUITES?SWEET!!!

January 21st, 2008 - Posted By: Cisco Adler

After the meal it was upstairs to TAO again for the VELVET REVOLVER show. Literally as I walk in I get a call from DONOVAN saying Scott Weiland missed his flight and the guys wanted to know if I could fill in. WHAT? The friggin answer is YES! Next thing I know Im backstage with DUFF, SLASH, MATT SORUM and the boys learnibng some tunes that Im gonna have to rock out for the sold out crowd waiting for VELVET FUCKING REVOLVER. The funny thing is I was never even one bit nervous. The stage is my home and the fact that my heroes just asked me to front the band for the evening(3 songs) was a dream come true but also a chance for me to show these motherfuckers that I can handle-randal. Most people know me for the wrong reasons and have no idea that I have actual talent?let alone the ?BALLS? to rock out in front of thousands of people with the greatest rock n rollers of our day after a 10 minute cramming session to learn the tunes. I sang ROCK N ROLL by ZEPELLIN, FEEL LIKE MAKIN LOVE by KID ROCK, and held down the back ups on HONKY TONK WOMAN. Look left and SLASH is ripping hall of fame solos and behind me GUNS N ROSES actual rythm section is rolling and rumbling like thunder through my chest. I may not have made it yet?but I definitely have arrived! hahah I cannot wait to see the pictures!!!! We took a band shot to which is gonna be classic! I finished up the set, said goodbye to my new bandmates, and rushed outside where we had two HUMMERS waiting to take us up to the GREEN DOOR MANSION for our secret performance.

http://www.eatskeet.com/2008/01/21/sundance-snowbunnys-and-gifting-suitessweet/

A couple of photo here:

http://www.filmmagic.com/ItemListing.aspx?cgl=300655&EventI=0&navtyp=CAL&ym=20081


Wow Kid Rock huh? No offense to Cisco but..... no...just no.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: lynn1961 on January 23, 2008, 12:03:35 AM
SCOTT WEILAND Explains SUNDANCE Concert No-Show - Jan. 22, 2008

BLABBERMOUTH.NET has received an official statement from VELVET REVOLVER's publicist regarding frontman Scott Weiland's absence from the band's concert Sunday night (January 20) at the 944 Magazine's party at Tao during the Sundance Film Festival in Park City, Utah. It reads as follows:

"On Sunday, January 20, the private plane that Scott was traveling on from Miami (where he performed the night before at the AROD Family Foundation and Bay Point Schools benefit) to Utah was diverted because of bad weather. The pilot wouldn't fly from Miami to the Salt Lake City Airport because of extremely poor visibility and a potential poor weather system that made it dangerous for the plane to fly to Salt Lake City. Two hours into the flight, it was diverted to the Van Nuys Airport (in Los Angeles).

"Scott, the band and management tried to find a flight to take him from Van Nuys to Salt Lake City in time for the band's show, but this was not possible. By the time Scott landed at the Van Nuys airport, it was too late to make any connecting flights. VELVET REVOLVER's tour manager also looked into private flights for Scott, but a crew was not available in time for an immediate departure that would have brought him to the show on time."


Thanks FunkyMonkey for posting the above, to help clear up some of the speculation going on.

I think this was more of a private type of show, anyway, and it sounds like they kind of put a "Camp Freddy" kind of vibe into it, so it worked. 


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on January 23, 2008, 11:17:40 AM
^^I guess time will tell.

And then there are still the STP reunion comments.

Apparently Billy Morrison said recently on Camp Freddy Radio, "I happen to know some things. I mean, it's no secret, half of LA knows STP have venues on hold."



Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on January 23, 2008, 11:36:49 AM
From the...

Speculation from inside the band's camp

It sounds like VR were not sure.

Yeah, I figured as much, but I was wondering if there were any rumors or anything else out there.

Ali

 :D

Tuesday, January 22, 2008

On the Circuit: Scott Weiland Goes Missing

More postings from Park City, and things are starting to get weird. How weird? Weird enough that lead singers with a history of strange behavior totally blow off a scheduled gig. Let us explain. Velvet Revolver played Sunday night at Tao, though not everyone made it to the stage. Scott Weiland was nowhere in sight and an unidentified gentlemen joined Slash and the boys to sing. The regular band members did not seem pleased with the situation. After an encore of Mr. Brownstone, the singer thanked the crowd for coming to see "Velvet Revolver". Slash reacted by saying "This isn't Velvet Revolver" and quickly walked off stage. So where is Mr. Weiland? Rumors abound - back in rehab, missed his flight, got arrested the night before in Park City - but no one could tell us for sure. We have been checking the local park benches and bus shelters to no avail.

http://downbythehipster.blogspot.com/2008/01/on-circuit-scott-weiland-goes-missing.html


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Smoking Guns on January 23, 2008, 12:11:30 PM
Hmmmmm..... Something sounds..."odd".


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Thorned Rose on January 23, 2008, 01:32:14 PM
...

Sounds like a end to VR. I'm not too sad about it. I mean I would like 1 more album from these guys so bad... STP would be cool to see.

Weiland sounds like a dick and I don't quite like him anymore in VR.

STP and VR with a new singer? Lets only hope.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on January 23, 2008, 10:14:06 PM
From Velvetrevolver.com

01.23.08

A Note From Scott

I truly apologize on behalf of the band for our inability to perform at the scheduled party during the Sundance Film Festival. I performed the previous night in Miami in support of the "A-Rod Family Foundation", and afterwards a jet was arranged to fly myself and a couple of the crew members to the festival, where I was looking forward to performing. Not only was I hoping to ROCK, but I also wanted to snowboard AND have some well...good and clean fun! Seriously, though...I even already had my "one piece" long johns on (no shit!!). Now...the problem was that the pilot of the private jet would not...I mean absolutely would NOT fly us to Park City due to the low visibility and poor weather conditions. We did everything in our power to make it happen. At last minute, Matt tried to hook up a flight from L.A. to Park City, but the owner of the plane could not find a crew in time.

I'm sorry...we all are. Who knows...maybe this happened for a reason.

-SW


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Jizzo on January 23, 2008, 11:52:00 PM
what the hell does maybe this happened for a reason mean?


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Ali on January 24, 2008, 12:10:14 AM
what the hell does maybe this happened for a reason mean?

Very good question.  That is bizarre.

Ali


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Smoking Guns on January 24, 2008, 12:16:27 AM
what the hell does maybe this happened for a reason mean?

Very good question.  That is bizarre.

Ali

Because maybe the poor visibility may have caused them to crash or something bad happen.  Saying maybe better off nobody got hurt.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Falcon on January 24, 2008, 12:18:28 AM
what the hell does maybe this happened for a reason mean?

Very good question.  That is bizarre.

Ali

An educated guess says he meant not ending up like Buddy Holly, JFK Jr.....insert plane crash victim here...


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Ali on January 24, 2008, 12:30:01 AM
what the hell does maybe this happened for a reason mean?

Very good question.  That is bizarre.

Ali

Because maybe the poor visibility may have caused them to crash or something bad happen.  Saying maybe better off nobody got hurt.

Yeah, but then why didn't he just say that in the end they were probably better of for not taking the chance?

You could also very easily interpret that as maybe he didn't end up at the show for a reason.

Ali


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Smoking Guns on January 24, 2008, 12:42:39 AM

Ali, I thought that too, but, why would he and the band express such remorse if that were the case???  Which goes back to the fate thing keeping him out of the plane.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: fuckin crazy on January 24, 2008, 01:10:51 AM
what the hell does maybe this happened for a reason mean?

Very good question.  That is bizarre.

Ali

Because maybe the poor visibility may have caused them to crash or something bad happen.  Saying maybe better off nobody got hurt.

Yeah, but then why didn't he just say that in the end they were probably better of for not taking the chance?

You could also very easily interpret that as maybe he didn't end up at the show for a reason.

Ali

for native speakers, "that" is implied.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: LT4 on January 24, 2008, 01:56:18 AM
It seems odd that he couldn't make it into Salt Lake given the numerous instrument approaches
and current weather conditions at the time.  However this would have put him 45 minutes away
thus too late to perform.  If he was asking the pilot to fly to Park City. the closest airport would
have been Heber which does have an instrument approach though requiring  a 2000 ft ceiling.
Plus the runway in Heber is a very narrow short bugger for a Cessna let alone a Jet,  I don't blame
them for not even trying it.  Better safe then sorry.  Kudos to the guys for being responsible and
performing for their audience. 


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: fuckin crazy on January 24, 2008, 02:41:42 AM
^ I would wager that you are a pilot. Thanks for the info.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Thorned Rose on January 24, 2008, 08:13:14 AM
Hmm, well I would say that the higher probability of his little statement means he was supposed to not leave because he might crash like others are thinking here.

Other, and maybe a even more underlined note... that he thinks we won't pick up on is that maybe it's a sign that he isn't supposed to be in VR anymore and so on.

Obviously it looks like he said it because of the weather and his safety, but he could of said it meaning that in also with his STP reunion hint going on.

Who knows? I say VR is broken up or on a hiatus in the next 6 months for sure.

Peace


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Ali on January 24, 2008, 11:45:10 AM
what the hell does maybe this happened for a reason mean?

Very good question.  That is bizarre.

Ali

Because maybe the poor visibility may have caused them to crash or something bad happen.  Saying maybe better off nobody got hurt.

Yeah, but then why didn't he just say that in the end they were probably better of for not taking the chance?

You could also very easily interpret that as maybe he didn't end up at the show for a reason.

Ali

for native speakers, "that" is implied.

For native speakers?  What exactly is that supposed to mean?

I am a native speaker, FYI  ::)

When you read a comment like that on the heels of Weiland announcing the upcoming STP reunion, it just makes me wonder as to what he actually meant.

Ali


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: cotis on January 24, 2008, 11:47:06 AM
Don't VR have a tour upcoming for Europe?


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: evergreen_layne on January 24, 2008, 01:19:17 PM
Yeah they're headlining the ROCKNACHT Festival in Germany on March 29th.  Seems to me like all is well in VR land.....

VELVET REVOLVER will headline the 22nd Rocknacht festival, set to take place March 29 at the Palladium in K?ln, Germany. The festival billing is as follows:

VELVET REVOLVER
THE HIVES
GOOD CHARLOTTE
THE FUTUREHEADS
JOLLY GOODS

Tickets are 47 euros plus cover charge from www.noisenow.de.

Although there has been no official confirmation from anyone involved, VELVET REVOLVER singer Scott Weiland made news over the weekend by telling the Miami Herald to be on the lookout for a STONE TEMPLE PILOTS reunion in the months ahead. The band members are reportedly on good terms again after their less than friendly break-up in 2002, and Weiland told The Pulse of Radio a while back that he wouldn't rule out getting back together. "I think that there is always that distinct possibility," he said. "I have to say it would never come in the way of VELVET REVOLVER, but I don't think that the story has been completely told. I'm unhappy with the ending of the story."

Weiland made his comments at an all-star gala event benefiting the AROD Family Foundation, on Saturday (January 19) at the Ritz Carlton hotel in South Beach, Florida.

Although he was supposed to perform with VELVET REVOLVER on Sunday (January 20) at a party in Park City, Utah during the Sundance Film Festival, Weiland was a no-show for the gig. The vocalist's flight to Utah was diverted because of bad weather. The band carried on with the show, inviting audience members and singer Donovan Leitch to pitch in.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=89175 (http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=89175)



Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on January 24, 2008, 01:26:17 PM
Thursday January 24, 2008

Duff McKagan on Weiland and STP re-formation rumours

Classic Rock just tracked down Duff McKagan, Velvet Revolver bassist, and quizzed him about VR singer Scott Weiland's recent 'antics'.

Here's what Duff had to say:

On the Sundance Festival:
?I sang It?s So Easy and I Wanna Be Your Dog and then we were panicking a bit over what to play so Matt [Sorum] got up and sang Patience, Matt?s a great singer, he really is. Why wasn?t Scott there? Scott missed his plane, yeah, let?s say that, Scott missed his plane??

On Stone Temple Pilots re-forming:
?That?s the rumour that I?ve heard too, good for him. You can?t plan ahead in this thing and if you do you?re going to be disappointed. Don?t get me wrong, I love playing live and we love this band, but I don?t have expectations any more. This is a great band and I?m proud to be a part of it, but it doesn?t define me any more.?

Stay tuned for further developments.

http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/page/classicrock?entry=duff_mckagan_on_weiland_and



Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: jarmo on January 24, 2008, 01:29:36 PM
Quote
Why wasn?t Scott there? Scott missed his plane, yeah, let?s say that, Scott missed his plane??

Let's say that?



Quote
This is a great band and I?m proud to be a part of it, but it doesn?t define me any more.?

Any more?

Did something change?


While Slash sounds hopeful about making another record, Duff sounds like he's given up.....




/jarmo



Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: don_vercetti on January 24, 2008, 01:31:07 PM
Ulp

that doesn't sound too optimistic from Duff's Perspective....


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: CheapJon on January 24, 2008, 01:33:26 PM
Duff seems like the only honest man of that band, and maybe dave but he never talks unfortuneatly.. duff deserves better

Quote
Why wasn’t Scott there? Scott missed his plane, yeah, let’s say that, Scott missed his plane…”

Let's say that?



Quote
This is a great band and I’m proud to be a part of it, but it doesn’t define me any more.”

Any more?

Did something change?

While Slash sounds hopeful about making another record, Duff sounds like he's given up.....


yeah l"et's say that" did got me thinking too..

and the defining part maybe he didn't like the way libertad sounded or something or how the other band members represent the band and themselves  ???


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: jarmo on January 24, 2008, 01:38:07 PM
I think Duff has mentioned about how his family is more important to him than other stuff. Maybe that's what he means by the define thing.




/jarmo


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Wando on January 24, 2008, 01:55:23 PM
I think Duff has mentioned about how his family is more important to him than other stuff. Maybe that's what he means by the define thing.




/jarmo
Yeah, I really hope that's true but tbh Duffs comments lately have gotten me worried about VRs future.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Jim Bob on January 24, 2008, 02:05:11 PM
I think Duff has mentioned about how his family is more important to him than other stuff. Maybe that's what he means by the define thing.




/jarmo
Yeah, I really hope that's true but tbh Duffs comments lately have gotten me worried about VRs future.

personally I think it would be better if VR split up and Scott went back to STP.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: LunsJail on January 24, 2008, 02:13:48 PM
They are supposed to play a gig in Chicago tonight.  Anybody going?  Looks like they're doing some smaller U.S. venues for a couple weeks until Europe.  So we'll see what happens......


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Wando on January 24, 2008, 02:42:31 PM
I think Duff has mentioned about how his family is more important to him than other stuff. Maybe that's what he means by the define thing.




/jarmo
Yeah, I really hope that's true but tbh Duffs comments lately have gotten me worried about VRs future.

personally I think it would be better if VR split up and Scott went back to STP.
I would love to see a STP reunion but not on VRs expense, they could go for a while do their own thing and then get back together - I really really hope they do because Velvet Revolver is the best the music has to offer at the moment, to me atleast.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Feel_The_Burn on January 24, 2008, 04:22:18 PM
Thursday January 24, 2008

Duff McKagan on Weiland and STP re-formation rumours

On Stone Temple Pilots re-forming:
?That?s the rumour that I?ve heard too, good for him. You can?t plan ahead in this thing and if you do you?re going to be disappointed. Don?t get me wrong, I love playing live and we love this band, but I don?t have expectations any more. This is a great band and I?m proud to be a part of it, but it doesn?t define me any more.?



The first part I understand , he is saying he learned not to expect anything or attempt to plan ahead as you get let down just roll with everything. But the last part is really kinda like WTF , maybe he feels like he didn't express himself through libertad , like it's "forced' playing. I'm not sure but that can only be a bad thing I see no positive light in that comment.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: guns_n_motley on January 24, 2008, 04:22:49 PM
"lets say that.." doesnt sound good...


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Ali on January 24, 2008, 04:24:42 PM
Quote
Why wasn?t Scott there? Scott missed his plane, yeah, let?s say that, Scott missed his plane??

Let's say that?



Quote
This is a great band and I?m proud to be a part of it, but it doesn?t define me any more.?

Any more?

Did something change?


While Slash sounds hopeful about making another record, Duff sounds like he's given up.....




/jarmo



"Let's say that" makes it sound as if it's questionable as if that is the truth, or maybe Duff doesn't believe that.

"It doesn't define me anymore" implies that it once did and something has changed either with the band or his life.

Ali


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: sexkitten on January 24, 2008, 04:26:31 PM
Anyone going to tonights show? wish I was...


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Feel_The_Burn on January 24, 2008, 04:28:06 PM
Quote
Why wasn?t Scott there? Scott missed his plane, yeah, let?s say that, Scott missed his plane??

Let's say that?



Quote
This is a great band and I?m proud to be a part of it, but it doesn?t define me any more.?

Any more?

Did something change?


While Slash sounds hopeful about making another record, Duff sounds like he's given up.....




/jarmo



"Let's say that" makes it sound as if it's questionable as if that is the truth, or maybe Duff doesn't believe that.

"It doesn't define me anymore" implies that it once did and something has changed either with the band or his life.

Ali

I think it means like ok when he was in GNR , it defined his persona , the whole sex , drugs , rock n roll "bad ass" thing. VR started and it was who he was , but maybe libertad he felt was not him , he didn't express himself? I think maybe things have changed with both.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Alan on January 24, 2008, 05:32:27 PM
all in all it seems like there is no communication between the members of VR.

Slash is starting work on the third VR album in april

Duff doesn't know if they're doing a third album

Scott is doing an STP tour (venues are already on hold)


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Feel_The_Burn on January 24, 2008, 05:48:06 PM
all in all it seems like there is no communication between the members of VR.

Slash is starting work on the third VR album in april

Duff doesn't know if they're doing a third album

Scott is doing an STP tour (venues are already on hold)

You are jumping the gun

Duff never said he didn't know if they are doing an album

Scott said to be on the look out  , nothing is confirmed. Where did the venues info come from?

Albeit it looks bad though


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Ali on January 24, 2008, 05:48:55 PM
all in all it seems like there is no communication between the members of VR.

Slash is starting work on the third VR album in april

Duff doesn't know if they're doing a third album

Scott is doing an STP tour (venues are already on hold)

You are jumping the gun

Duff never said he didn't know if they are doing an album

Scott said to be on the look out  , nothing is confirmed. Where did the venues info come from?

Albeit it looks bad though

Billy Morrison said that "half of LA" knows that they have venues on hold for STP.

Ali


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Feel_The_Burn on January 24, 2008, 05:53:35 PM
all in all it seems like there is no communication between the members of VR.

Slash is starting work on the third VR album in april

Duff doesn't know if they're doing a third album

Scott is doing an STP tour (venues are already on hold)

You are jumping the gun

Duff never said he didn't know if they are doing an album

Scott said to be on the look out  , nothing is confirmed. Where did the venues info come from?

Albeit it looks bad though

Billy Morrison said that "half of LA" knows that they have venues on hold for STP.

Ali

Gotcha its on their Wiki too pretty interesting , well just hope its what Scott wanted a "final ending" for the thing but god knows


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: lakersaregreat on January 24, 2008, 05:54:41 PM
Anyone going to tonights show? wish I was...

Front row, center.........................


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: jarmo on January 24, 2008, 05:58:48 PM
You are jumping the gun

Duff never said he didn't know if they are doing an album


?I?m lucky I suppose,? said McKagan ?my passion is also my living. This band has allowed all of us who might have been relegated to ?you were in a good band but it?s over now? file to show that we are still musically viable.?

Despite having been a key member in what many consider to be one of the greatest rock bands of all time McKagan is still hesitant about what lies ahead. ?I never try to plan out my future. I?ve learned from experience,? McKagan said ?there are so many different lives going on within a band. Some people have to go back to a family and kids. I hope that we will make a third album I really do. But if we don?t at least I can say it was a good time.?


http://www.luminomagazine.com/mw/content/view/2341/1



/jarmo


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on January 24, 2008, 06:05:03 PM
It's on Wiki...so :-\

Regarding a STP 2008 reunion...

There are rumors that the tour will kick off in May at the Rock on the Range festival in Ohio.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Irish rose on January 24, 2008, 06:14:58 PM
If VR cancel another gig here in Ireland im gonna flip! that'll be two in the last 6 months or so!

I have a feeling the rest of the band will continue the tour without Scott...I dont think it'll matter in Europe anyway...everyone is there to see the Guns guys


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Feel_The_Burn on January 24, 2008, 06:35:15 PM
If VR cancel another gig here in Ireland im gonna flip! that'll be two in the last 6 months or so!

I have a feeling the rest of the band will continue the tour without Scott...I dont think it'll matter in Europe anyway...everyone is there to see the Guns guys

 :rofl: With what singer?

To Jarmo , well I guess it is how it seems. I really dug VR , Libertad may have been a commercial flop but since when does sales mean good music? Contraband and Libertad were both solid rock albums , I'm sure they will all move on to bigger and better things.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: CheapJon on January 24, 2008, 06:38:29 PM
I'm sure they will all move on to bigger and better things.

bigger as in STP reunion and better as in solo projects?


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Feel_The_Burn on January 24, 2008, 06:43:43 PM
I'm sure they will all move on to bigger and better things.

bigger as in STP reunion and better as in solo projects?

I would guess so , never been a STP fan that much so I don't see the hype over the reunion..... But a Slash solo album really sounds just fuckin' cool , maybe throw izzy in with him for a couple sogns and  :o


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Falcon on January 24, 2008, 06:53:36 PM
I'm sure they will all move on to bigger and better things.

bigger as in STP reunion and better as in solo projects?

I would guess so , never been a STP fan that much so I don't see the hype over the reunion..... But a Slash solo album really sounds just fuckin' cool , maybe throw izzy in with him for a couple sogns and  :o

The STP thing would go over well in the US, It'll happen sooner or later - it just makes sense.

Could care less about a Slash solo record, or A Duff solo record for that matter.

It'll be interesting to see how things shake out, nobody in VR seems to be on the same page.

A little rock n roll drama is always good, keeps things interesting..


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: don_vercetti on January 24, 2008, 07:00:20 PM
If VR cancel another gig here in Ireland im gonna flip! that'll be two in the last 6 months or so!

I have a feeling the rest of the band will continue the tour without Scott...I dont think it'll matter in Europe anyway...everyone is there to see the Guns guys

 :rofl: With what singer?


Get in Mr Izzy Stradlin, they could do a medley of Izzy's solo stuff, a couple of VR songs, and a bit of old guns (14 years, dnb, brownstone).  That would be way cool. 

Realistically thought, I guess they'd have some trouble carrying on as VR without Scott.  But I reckon people are making a bit of a mountain out of a molehill for now, if he shows up for tonights gigs then I don't reckon anyone should jump the gun about VR breaking up just yet.  It is concievable he was telling the truth about the delay, after all. 


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Feel_The_Burn on January 24, 2008, 07:06:03 PM
If VR cancel another gig here in Ireland im gonna flip! that'll be two in the last 6 months or so!

I have a feeling the rest of the band will continue the tour without Scott...I dont think it'll matter in Europe anyway...everyone is there to see the Guns guys

 :rofl: With what singer?


Get in Mr Izzy Stradlin, they could do a medley of Izzy's solo stuff, a couple of VR songs, and a bit of old guns (14 years, dnb, brownstone).  That would be way cool. 

Realistically thought, I guess they'd have some trouble carrying on as VR without Scott.  But I reckon people are making a bit of a mountain out of a molehill for now, if he shows up for tonights gigs then I don't reckon anyone should jump the gun about VR breaking up just yet.  It is concievable he was telling the truth about the delay, after all. 

Even if they where , the fact that Slash is excited for a new record that Duff doesn't even know they will make is un easy , not to mention a front man who is talking about going gigs with his old band. Dave and Matt are just there......


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: sexkitten on January 24, 2008, 07:31:51 PM
Anyone going to tonights show? wish I was...

Front row, center.........................

Isn't it at the aragon where it's only GA???  Have an awesome time and keep us posted.  :peace:


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Alan on January 24, 2008, 08:08:57 PM
STP were never big outside of the US.

i think the best thing for VR is for them all to do their own thing then come back and do their 3rd album as VR.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on January 24, 2008, 09:30:47 PM
Dear LAist, I Unexpectedly Rocked Out at Sundance with Velvet Revolver

Two days ago I was performing at a Sundance Film Festival event in Salt Lake City, UT. After my performance at Rose Wagner Theater, I began driving the 25 minutes it takes to get back up to Park City.

I checked my voice mail and there was a frantic message from my friend Jenna Lynn. "Mattie Moon, it's Jenna", she said. "Call me back, it's urgent, urgent, urgent, urgent, about tonight", she continued, tension in her otherwise smooth voice, "come play with Velvet Revolver, come sing...we need somebody who can sing..call me..bye." If you are not familiar, Velvet Revolver is a rock band comprised of rock n? roll icons, Slash, Duff McKagan, and Matt Sorum from Guns N? Roses, Dave Kushner, and Scott Weiland from Stone Temple Pilots. I looked at my traveling companion, Kooze, and said...,"dude..I think they want me to sing with Velvet Revolver tonight." My stomach began to turn.

I received a text 5 minutes later that said.."Wanna play vocals for Velvet tonight?" I looked at Scott and we both started laughing hysterically. ?Hell yeah!?, I texted back. Apparently, Velvet front man, Scott Weiland, had missed his flight from LA and would not be able to make the gig. We jetted up the mountain as fast as we could. While we were driving I began downloading lyrics off the Internet from my Blackberry. I had never even heard a Velvet Revolver song before!

When we arrived I was escorted backstage to meet the band. I walked in, said hello, and took my guitar out....

We began mapping out a game plan. Duff asked me if I knew any Stone?s covers and I told him I knew Honky Tonk Woman. I started jotting the lyrics down on a piece of paper. Soon after, Donovan Leitch, son of legendary singer, ?Donovan?, arrived and began learning songs. Then came a singer named Cisco (Whitstar). He was accompanied by an actress named E.G Daily, known for her role in the cult-classic movie, ?Valley Girl?. We ran through the song in an empty stairwell and then made our way to the stage.

My song was not until second from last, so I stood and watched as Donovan and Cisco sang ?Rock N? Roll? by Led Zeppelin. Right before their song was about to finish, I noticed Paris Hilton making her way to the front row. I actually thought about running! Could there be any more pressure than this?

Then Paris jumped on stage and made her way over to where we were standing. I took the mike from Cisco?s hand as drummer Matt Sorum started the legendary cowbell count-off that signifies the beginning of one of the best Stone?s songs ever. When the time came, I began to sing, ?I met a gin soaked, barroom queen in Memphis?. The whole crowd was singing along! Everyone was grooving! Then Cisco and E.G joined me on harmonies. It was AWESOME. The band was so friendly and cool. There was something very serendipitous about Sundance this year.

-Matthew Moon

Photos: http://laist.com/2008/01/24/dear_laist_i_un.php


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: ben9785 on January 24, 2008, 10:33:14 PM
VR are a great band, I really enjoyed seeing them in Australia, and "Contraband" is one of my favourite albums. "Libertad" was solid, but not as good as the first one.

A "Stone Temple Pilots" reunion tour/album would, however, be a dream for me as a longtime fan who never got to see them live.

I have no doubt also that Duff and Slash and Matt would always regroup and come up with something just as great as VR.

But it's a shame how its turned out as VR genuinely at one point seemed like they were in for the long term.
If things are so messy though, especially with a pending tour which primarily consists of rescheduled dates for previous cancellations, then they should just cancel all their forthcoming commitments and work out where they stand before they get back out on the road.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: ShotgunBlues1978 on January 24, 2008, 10:49:24 PM
If VR cancel another gig here in Ireland im gonna flip! that'll be two in the last 6 months or so!

I have a feeling the rest of the band will continue the tour without Scott...I dont think it'll matter in Europe anyway...everyone is there to see the Guns guys

 :rofl: With what singer?

To Jarmo , well I guess it is how it seems. I really dug VR , Libertad may have been a commercial flop but since when does sales mean good music? Contraband and Libertad were both solid rock albums , I'm sure they will all move on to bigger and better things.

They could find a replacement singer if necessary, there are plenty of singers out there who could replace him at least in a live setting and people would still go to the shows

The best case scenario would be for VR to get a singer more suited to what VR proclaims to be about.  Scott and the DeLeos are a perfect match stylistically, I never felt VR had that much songwriting chemistry between the vocalist and the instrumentalists, in that their strongest suits as musicians do not necessarily mesh.  Apparently the songs that ended up on Contraband were mostly written musically prior to Scott's arrival, and that album had its flaws but one thing you could say about it was that it had some balls and some attitude.  The second album it sounded like Scott dominated the musical direction, though Scott sounded more at home the music just sounded neutered and lacked punch, with the exception of 3-4 tracks it ended up sounding in my estimation like a bunch of lower-level STP songs with Slash solos pasted in on Pro Tools.  I have no doubts that they enjoyed recording Libertad and are proud of the effort but to some extent, both albums sound like members trying to conform with what the others are good at, Contraband was Scott trying to conform with what the other guys are best at, Libertad was the other guys trying to conform to what Scott is best at


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Smoking Guns on January 24, 2008, 11:19:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yozAWVNyYSQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB_B6F610LQ

this was all i could find.  two short clips of slash tearing it up.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: LunsJail on January 25, 2008, 09:35:53 AM
If VR cancel another gig here in Ireland im gonna flip! that'll be two in the last 6 months or so!

I have a feeling the rest of the band will continue the tour without Scott...I dont think it'll matter in Europe anyway...everyone is there to see the Guns guys

 :rofl: With what singer?

To Jarmo , well I guess it is how it seems. I really dug VR , Libertad may have been a commercial flop but since when does sales mean good music? Contraband and Libertad were both solid rock albums , I'm sure they will all move on to bigger and better things.

They could find a replacement singer if necessary, there are plenty of singers out there who could replace him at least in a live setting and people would still go to the shows

The best case scenario would be for VR to get a singer more suited to what VR proclaims to be about.  Scott and the DeLeos are a perfect match stylistically, I never felt VR had that much songwriting chemistry between the vocalist and the instrumentalists, in that their strongest suits as musicians do not necessarily mesh.  Apparently the songs that ended up on Contraband were mostly written musically prior to Scott's arrival, and that album had its flaws but one thing you could say about it was that it had some balls and some attitude.  The second album it sounded like Scott dominated the musical direction, though Scott sounded more at home the music just sounded neutered and lacked punch, with the exception of 3-4 tracks it ended up sounding in my estimation like a bunch of lower-level STP songs with Slash solos pasted in on Pro Tools.  I have no doubts that they enjoyed recording Libertad and are proud of the effort but to some extent, both albums sound like members trying to conform with what the others are good at, Contraband was Scott trying to conform with what the other guys are best at, Libertad was the other guys trying to conform to what Scott is best at

That was probably the best criticism of VR that I've heard.  It seems (with maybe the exception of "Slither") that they are always pushing things in directions that aren't natural for half the band.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on January 25, 2008, 10:12:43 AM
92.3K Rock in NY just reported that Duff made a recent statement along the lines of " If Scott gets back with STP, then good for him. I never had long-term expectations with this band. It's just the way the business is etc. I love this band, I love playing live together but if it ends, it ends. It doesn't define me. "   -

Excuse me if some is wrong, I just heard it 1/2 hour ago and am going on memory here


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Grouse on January 25, 2008, 10:21:08 AM
think you mean this one:

On the Sundance Festival:
?I sang It?s So Easy and I Wanna Be Your Dog and then we were panicking a bit over what to play so Matt [Sorum] got up and sang Patience, Matt?s a great singer, he really is. Why wasn?t Scott there? Scott missed his plane, yeah, let?s say that, Scott missed his plane??

On Stone Temple Pilots re-forming:
?That?s the rumour that I?ve heard too, good for him. You can?t plan ahead in this thing and if you do you?re going to be disappointed. Don?t get me wrong, I love playing live and we love this band, but I don?t have expectations any more. This is a great band and I?m proud to be a part of it, but it doesn?t define me any more


* edit to add that this came from classic rock


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Bodhi on January 25, 2008, 11:27:29 AM
If VR cancel another gig here in Ireland im gonna flip! that'll be two in the last 6 months or so!

I have a feeling the rest of the band will continue the tour without Scott...I dont think it'll matter in Europe anyway...everyone is there to see the Guns guys

 :rofl: With what singer?

To Jarmo , well I guess it is how it seems. I really dug VR , Libertad may have been a commercial flop but since when does sales mean good music? Contraband and Libertad were both solid rock albums , I'm sure they will all move on to bigger and better things.

They could find a replacement singer if necessary, there are plenty of singers out there who could replace him at least in a live setting and people would still go to the shows

The best case scenario would be for VR to get a singer more suited to what VR proclaims to be about.  Scott and the DeLeos are a perfect match stylistically, I never felt VR had that much songwriting chemistry between the vocalist and the instrumentalists, in that their strongest suits as musicians do not necessarily mesh.  Apparently the songs that ended up on Contraband were mostly written musically prior to Scott's arrival, and that album had its flaws but one thing you could say about it was that it had some balls and some attitude.  The second album it sounded like Scott dominated the musical direction, though Scott sounded more at home the music just sounded neutered and lacked punch, with the exception of 3-4 tracks it ended up sounding in my estimation like a bunch of lower-level STP songs with Slash solos pasted in on Pro Tools.  I have no doubts that they enjoyed recording Libertad and are proud of the effort but to some extent, both albums sound like members trying to conform with what the others are good at, Contraband was Scott trying to conform with what the other guys are best at, Libertad was the other guys trying to conform to what Scott is best at

I couldnt agree more..that is the best description of Libertad i have seen....stole the words right out of my mouth....same with Contraband..i LOVED Contraband even though it wasnt perfect...but Libertad for the most part is unlistenable....sounds like b-sides off of old STP albums....and their best song "Messages" doesnt even make it on the album!! :confused:


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on January 25, 2008, 12:01:02 PM
Slash: Weiland Playing With STP This Summer

January 25, 2008, 11:30 ET

After Velvet Revolver wraps a spring tour in support of its second album, "Libertad," frontman Scott Weiland will rejoin his former bandmates in Stone Temple Pilots for a handful of summer reunion shows, guitarist Slash tells Billboard.com.

STP broke up in late 2002; the band's last album was the previous year's "Shangri-La Dee Da." No other details have yet been revealed about STP's plans.

In the meantime, Weiland and his Velvet Revolver bandmates are still plugging away in support of "Libertad" with dates that run through early April. There's also the hope that recording for album number three could begin in the spring.

"I don't think anybody knew the second one came out," Slash admits. "We didn't promote it, for one. The first record I remember going out for three weeks on the road and just promoting, with (bassist) Duff (McKagan) and myself going to Europe, Japan and the States.

"This time around we actually went on the road way before the album came out. It's just a different kind of promotion," he continues. "People are just going to a concert, and you're not necessarily drilling into their head about the new album. So I think that had a lot to do with it. All things considered, it doesn't matter to me. It's still just a really good record."

On the current tour, which plays Milwaukee tonight (Jan. 25), Velvet Revolver has added additional Guns N' Roses and Stone Temple Pilots covers it hadn't performed previously.

"There was a point there where I thought that we felt like we were sort of obligated to do them, like people really, really were expecting that," Slash says. "And once we got a bigger catalog by putting out another record, there was a feeling like we don't necessarily have to do any Guns N' Roses and Stone Temple Pilots songs."

"It was more like Pete Townshend feeling like he didn't have to smash his amps every night," he continues. "So for a second there, that was the plan, but then we personally started missing it. They were like the easiest cover songs for us to cover because we wrote them, so we just sort of got over that."

Speaking of Guns N' Roses, Slash admits he has no contact with Axl Rose, nor has he heard material from the long-awaited "Chinese Democracy." But any silence between the camps is bound to end come 2012, when the influential hard rock act becomes eligible for induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Slash, McKagan and drummer Matt Sorum experienced firsthand what could be in store based on the drama that ensued last year around Van Halen's induction into the Rock Hall. With Eddie Van Halen in rehab and David Lee Roth refusing to attend after a set list squabble, Velvet Revolver ended up jamming with Michael Anthony and Sammy Hagar.

"I never even thought about it until we had to do that," Slash says. "Somebody asked me, 'Do you think you guys will be able to show up for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (induction ceremony) in five years?' I was like, 'Oh, I guess we're eligible.' It never dawned on me before then. If this comes up, I'd hope we'd be mature enough to get up and do that, but I have no idea."

When asked what his gut feeling is about Rose and the other original members coming together, Slash says, "My gut doesn't count because it's not just about me. It's about everybody. And if it was easy to predict, we probably wouldn't have had so many hassles in the first place."

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003702045



Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: chineseblues on January 25, 2008, 12:01:27 PM
Quote
After Velvet Revolver wraps a spring tour in support of its second album, "Libertad," frontman Scott Weiland will rejoin his former bandmates in Stone Temple Pilots for a handful of summer reunion shows, guitarist Slash tells Billboard.com.

STP broke up in late 2002; the band's last album was the previous year's "Shangri-La Dee Da." No other details have yet been revealed about STP's plans.

In the meantime, Weiland and his Velvet Revolver bandmates are still plugging away in support of "Libertad" with dates that run through early April. There's also the hope that recording for album number three could begin in the spring.

"I don't think anybody knew the second one came out," Slash admits. "We didn't promote it, for one. The first record I remember going out for three weeks on the road and just promoting, with (bassist) Duff (McKagan) and myself going to Europe, Japan and the States.

"This time around we actually went on the road way before the album came out. It's just a different kind of promotion," he continues. "People are just going to a concert, and you're not necessarily drilling into their head about the new album. So I think that had a lot to do with it. All things considered, it doesn't matter to me. It's still just a really good record."

Click here to find out more!
On the current tour, which plays Milwaukee tonight (Jan. 25), Velvet Revolver has added additional Guns N' Roses and Stone Temple Pilots covers it hadn't performed previously.

"There was a point there where I thought that we felt like we were sort of obligated to do them, like people really, really were expecting that," Slash says. "And once we got a bigger catalog by putting out another record, there was a feeling like we don't necessarily have to do any Guns N' Roses and Stone Temple Pilots songs."

"It was more like Pete Townshend feeling like he didn't have to smash his amps every night," he continues. "So for a second there, that was the plan, but then we personally started missing it. They were like the easiest cover songs for us to cover because we wrote them, so we just sort of got over that."

Speaking of Guns N' Roses, Slash admits he has no contact with Axl Rose, nor has he heard material from the long-awaited "Chinese Democracy." But any silence between the camps is bound to end come 2012, when the influential hard rock act becomes eligible for induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Slash, McKagan and drummer Matt Sorum experienced firsthand what could be in store based on the drama that ensued last year around Van Halen's induction into the Rock Hall. With Eddie Van Halen in rehab and David Lee Roth refusing to attend after a set list squabble, Velvet Revolver ended up jamming with Michael Anthony and Sammy Hagar.

"I never even thought about it until we had to do that," Slash says. "Somebody asked me, 'Do you think you guys will be able to show up for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (induction ceremony) in five years?' I was like, 'Oh, I guess we're eligible.' It never dawned on me before then. If this comes up, I'd hope we'd be mature enough to get up and do that, but I have no idea."

When asked what his gut feeling is about Rose and the other original members coming together, Slash says, "My gut doesn't count because it's not just about me. It's about everybody. And if it was easy to predict, we probably wouldn't have had so many hassles in the first place."


http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003702045


I could be wrong, but wasn't libertad pretty heavily promoted? They were on the late night shows, in magazines etc. So how was it not promoted as much?  ???


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Falcon on January 25, 2008, 12:32:51 PM

I could be wrong, but wasn't libertad pretty heavily promoted? They were on the late night shows, in magazines etc. So how was it not promoted as much?  ???

You're not wrong, right on the money in fact.

I'm so fucking sick of artists/fans blaming "lack of promotion" when an album tanks, especially when it's just not the truth.

VR were all over TV, the net, mag articles, released singles, made vids, toured extensively etc..

Libertad just didn't catch on, it's that simple.  Just own it for cryin' out loud.

This isn't VR specific by any means, it's a universal fucking excuse.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: jarmo on January 25, 2008, 12:37:12 PM
They canceled a bunch of European dates last summer so they could go back home to promote it.

And Slash says it wasn't promoted....  ::)





/jarmo


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Grouse on January 25, 2008, 12:37:59 PM
^^Can't speak for anyone overseas ofcourse but overhere it wasn't promoted AT ALL not a single add/video/interview was ever shown on tv or any other medium but when Contrabnd was released it had some pretty big promotion overhere slither and fall to pieces were being played constantly on radio stations I even saw an add for it on tv a couple of times and believe me that's a really rare thing here in the Netherlands....


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on January 25, 2008, 01:32:21 PM
It was definitely promoted. Not in the way of the debut album, but that' s not surprising. The album just did'nt take off. Shit happens.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Jizzo on January 25, 2008, 02:04:24 PM
i have no problem with scott going to do an stp tour, it should be badass

let velvet revolver take the summer off, let duff and slash rest and then work on an album in the fall


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Top-Hatted One on January 25, 2008, 02:36:26 PM
I would rather them get in the studio and record and close the book on VR the right way.  Better to have an album to last for eternity than seeing the same show live for less than 2hrs


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Ali on January 25, 2008, 02:43:42 PM
I would rather them get in the studio and record and close the book on VR the right way.  Better to have an album to last for eternity than seeing the same show live for less than 2hrs

Yeah, but if they don't have a tour looming on the horizon with the knowledge that the new material they are working on has to work live, where is the motivation to make a great record going to come from?  What would be the point?

Ali


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Top-Hatted One on January 25, 2008, 02:49:27 PM
EHH GOOD POINT


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Falcon on January 25, 2008, 03:55:03 PM

let velvet revolver take the summer off, let duff and slash rest and then work on an album in the fall

An educated guess says if STP does in fact tour it will stir creative juices leading to label interest spawning a new record and all that process entails.

Considering those involved, I've always thought VR was an entity built for speed, not built to last.

If STP does move forward (and I think it will), I don't look for VR with Scott Weiland to be heard from anytime soon...



Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: kobys on January 25, 2008, 03:59:29 PM


An educated guess says if STP does in fact tour it will stir creative juices leading to label interest spawning a new record and all that process entails.

Considering those involved, I've always thought VR was an entity build for speed, not built to last.

If STP does move forward (and I think it will), I don't look for VR with Scott Weiland to be heard from anytime soon...


I think that you may be right and I also think that VR may find a new singer and not be over. I personally hope that VR finds a singer that has less baggage and a better disposition then Scott seems to have.



Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Jim Bob on January 25, 2008, 04:24:00 PM
Scotts better in STP anyways..  VR = blah


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Feel_The_Burn on January 25, 2008, 04:34:01 PM
Scotts better in STP anyways..  VR = blah

I never dug STP , besides maybe Plush. VR was a solid rock band , something there isn't a lot of lately in popular music. Should be interesting to see what happens to the guys.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on January 25, 2008, 04:39:24 PM

let velvet revolver take the summer off, let duff and slash rest and then work on an album in the fall

An educated guess says if STP does in fact tour it will stir creative juices leading to label interest spawning a new record and all that process entails.

Considering those involved, I've always thought VR was an entity built for speed, not built to last.

If STP does move forward (and I think it will), I don't look for VR with Scott Weiland to be heard from anytime soon...



Having said that, do you think there is any truth to the original post in this thread...in some form anyway?



Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Falcon on January 25, 2008, 04:52:55 PM

Having said that, do you think there is any truth to the original post in this thread...in some form anyway?


Which part?  About Farrell or Black?


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on January 25, 2008, 05:00:18 PM

Having said that, do you think there is any truth to the original post in this thread...in some form anyway?


Which part?  About Farrell or Black?

Do you think they are looking for a new singer at this time?


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Ali on January 25, 2008, 05:06:18 PM
If they are not actively looking for a new singer, the possibility of having to look for one must be in the back of their minds after hearing STP is playing together again.

Ali


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Falcon on January 25, 2008, 05:08:07 PM

Having said that, do you think there is any truth to the original post in this thread...in some form anyway?


Which part?  About Farrell or Black?

Do you think they are looking for a new singer at this time?

I'm sure they've always had a "short list" of replacements if Weiland
indeed left for whatever reason if they intended to move forward without him.

That said, I seriously doubt either Farrell or Black would be on that short list.   


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Ali on January 25, 2008, 05:09:52 PM

Having said that, do you think there is any truth to the original post in this thread...in some form anyway?


Which part?  About Farrell or Black?

Do you think they are looking for a new singer at this time?

I'm sure they've always had a "short list" of replacements if Weiland
indeed left for whatever reason if they intended to move forward without him.

That said, I seriously doubt either Farrell or Black would be on that short list.   

I would venture to guess that is zero chance at all of either of those two being considered.

The question is then, who would they consider?  Josh Todd and Baz are both no longer available and I personally doubt that either one would be interested anyway.

Ali


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Falcon on January 25, 2008, 05:32:33 PM

The question is then, who would they consider?  Josh Todd and Baz are both no longer available and I personally doubt that either one would be interested anyway.

Ali

Todd didn't work the first time and Buckcherry's "15" just got certified platinum, no chance.

Bach was never really a serious candidate in the first place and wouldn't be this time around either. 


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Smoking Guns on January 25, 2008, 06:03:51 PM
If they need a new singer and don't explore Kid Rock I will be very dissappointed.  Kid has come so far and his latest album is awesome!


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Falcon on January 25, 2008, 06:11:03 PM
If they need a new singer and don't explore Kid Rock I will be very dissappointed.  Kid has come so far and his latest album is awesome!

Interesting for sure, highly doubtful though.

Billy Morrison would be a natural fit for obvious reasons, Shooter Jennings would be cool as well.

One thing is certain, it's going to interesting to watch unfold.. :yes:


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Ali on January 25, 2008, 06:11:16 PM
If they need a new singer and don't explore Kid Rock I will be very dissappointed.  Kid has come so far and his latest album is awesome!

I don't think Kid Rock is a good enough singer to deserve to play with Slash and Duff.  I can't see the fit either.

Ali


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: faldor on January 25, 2008, 06:14:42 PM
If they need a new singer and don't explore Kid Rock I will be very dissappointed.  Kid has come so far and his latest album is awesome!
Kid Rock is doing just fine on his own though isn't he?  What would be the point of joining another band?  I know Slash and Duff are great, but isn't Kid Rock bigger than those 2 these days?  Am I wrong here?  I'm under the impression that Slash and Duff would need Kid Rock a lot more than Kid would need them.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: fuckin crazy on January 25, 2008, 09:34:51 PM
I don't really care for Kid Rock, but Shooter would fit right in ... I'm sure him and Matt would have a blast.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Doc Emmett Brown on January 25, 2008, 09:36:27 PM

Shooter Jennings would be cool as well.

I didnt know who that was (apologies, my musical education is lacking), so I checked out his myspace.  He has a great voice, but is he into hard rock?  He sounds awesome on 'Gone to Carolina'


Quote
One thing is certain, it's going to interesting to watch unfold.. :yes:

yes it will, but I cant imagine what it must be like for Duff/Slash/Matt to go through this again in just a few years.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: *Timothy* on January 25, 2008, 09:48:44 PM
Shooter would be a cool choice . Maybe even Richard Patrick : ok:


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: fuckin crazy on January 25, 2008, 09:49:22 PM
idk, I would argue that VR aren't always hard rock. Too, lyrically, he is a hell of a writer. His mom is hot as hell too ... always a plus.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Doc Emmett Brown on January 25, 2008, 09:56:14 PM
^ true.  if VR could make a Lies-style album with Jennings, I think that would be awesome. 


Is he (Jennings)  friends with anyone in the band?  From my hazy memory, I recall that Scott's wife was friends with Duff's wife and that's how they met, or something.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: fuckin crazy on January 25, 2008, 10:00:09 PM
I have know idea, but his family has been involved in the industry for years, and he is a down to earth guy. I met him a couple of years ago when his mom was touring with Kristofferson. That woman has one of the sweetest voices I have ever heard.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Bobarcord on January 25, 2008, 10:02:58 PM
Shooterwould be an interesting choice. And yes his mom is hot.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: AdZ on January 25, 2008, 10:20:02 PM
Is he (Jennings)  friends with anyone in the band?  From my hazy memory, I recall that Scott's wife was friends with Duff's wife and that's how they met, or something.

Hasn't he sung It's So Easy with Duff, Slash & Matt before?


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: fuckin crazy on January 25, 2008, 10:48:55 PM
^ Where? I would love to see that. He might be a little "red" for that crowd. If he did join the guys, I could see some relaspes.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: lynn1961 on January 26, 2008, 12:40:06 AM
If they need a new singer and don't explore Kid Rock I will be very dissappointed.  Kid has come so far and his latest album is awesome!

Interesting for sure, highly doubtful though.

Billy Morrison would be a natural fit for obvious reasons, Shooter Jennings would be cool as well.

One thing is certain, it's going to interesting to watch unfold.. :yes:

Good post!  Great choices, there!   : ok:

This will all be interesting, coming up.  Although I think we might be getting ahead of ourselves, a little bit, here.   


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: lynn1961 on January 26, 2008, 01:04:05 AM
Is he (Jennings)  friends with anyone in the band?  From my hazy memory, I recall that Scott's wife was friends with Duff's wife and that's how they met, or something.

Hasn't he sung It's So Easy with Duff, Slash & Matt before?

Go to youtube and search Loaded with Shooter Jennings or the other way around.  I tried to post the videos (there's 2), but with no success.  This was a Camp Freddy show, I believe, with Loaded.  Pre VR. 


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: fuckin crazy on January 26, 2008, 01:05:44 AM
Not available!!!

If you have it, PM please.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Bodhi on January 26, 2008, 01:37:34 AM
They canceled a bunch of European dates last summer so they could go back home to promote it.

And Slash says it wasn't promoted....  ::)





/jarmo



the record was promoted...but the single was TERRIBLE..thats why it didnt sell....the songs were just bad...Contraband debuted number 1 here in America and no one knew who the hell they were in 2004..but Slither was a rockin song with a very old GNR-esque guitar solo..now after years of touring, having a recognizable name and having a solid fan base(3 things they didn't have going for them in 2004) they cant move more than 1/3 of the sales of Contraband in Libertads opening week?? the product was just bad...the sooner Slash admits that the happier he will be... thats what happens when you release what was equal to a STP b-sides album....


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: AdZ on January 26, 2008, 08:54:08 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bVlQ2nSrQs4


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: CheapJon on January 26, 2008, 08:57:57 AM
it seems like most guys here hope that scott leaves and VR continue on with a new frontman.. is that assumption correct?


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: don_vercetti on January 26, 2008, 09:21:58 AM
it seems like most guys here hope that scott leaves and VR continue on with a new frontman.. is that assumption correct?

That would make me a fairly happy guy. 


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: JimBobTTD on January 26, 2008, 09:24:11 AM
it seems like most guys here hope that scott leaves and VR continue on with a new frontman.. is that assumption correct?

It looks that way. I'd rather they stay together, but if that's not possible, then yeah. New singer, but preferably not Baz or Kid Rock.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Fingers on January 26, 2008, 09:33:48 AM
I would prefer they keep Weiland, but would be happy and interested to see them start another band with another singer, as long as they keep making music-I doubt they would continue under the banner Velvet Revolver


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: lynn1961 on January 26, 2008, 10:07:20 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bVlQ2nSrQs4

Thank you!!  That's the one!  I couldn't get it posted up here, for the life of me, though I tried!   :)


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: fuckin crazy on January 26, 2008, 10:20:24 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bVlQ2nSrQs4

Your point being ...



Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: AdZ on January 26, 2008, 11:11:56 AM
You said you couldn't find it?


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: fuckin crazy on January 26, 2008, 11:21:34 AM
You said you couldn't find it?

Sir, I have lost a lot of things, most notably women, but once, again I ask, your point being?


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: AdZ on January 26, 2008, 11:31:32 AM
Is he (Jennings)  friends with anyone in the band?  From my hazy memory, I recall that Scott's wife was friends with Duff's wife and that's how they met, or something.

Hasn't he sung It's So Easy with Duff, Slash & Matt before?

^ Where? I would love to see that. He might be a little "red" for that crowd. If he did join the guys, I could see some relaspes.

Go to youtube and search Loaded with Shooter Jennings or the other way around.  I tried to post the videos (there's 2), but with no success.  This was a Camp Freddy show, I believe, with Loaded.  Pre VR. 

Not available!!!

If you have it, PM please.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bVlQ2nSrQs4

I think this pretty much explains everything.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Falcon on January 26, 2008, 11:39:48 AM
it seems like most guys here hope that scott leaves and VR continue on with a new frontman.. is that assumption correct?

Not the correct assumption for me.

Would prefer he stays, no doubt about it.

With all the STP rumors flying about one has to be realistic. 

If Scott's focus moves in an STP direction the boys have got to weigh all their options, including
the possibility of a new front man in they want to move forward as a band sans Weiland. 


This will all be interesting, coming up.  Although I think we might be getting ahead of ourselves, a little bit, here.   

For sure, all speculation of course.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: fuckin crazy on January 26, 2008, 11:47:41 AM
Is he (Jennings)  friends with anyone in the band?  From my hazy memory, I recall that Scott's wife was friends with Duff's wife and that's how they met, or something.

Hasn't he sung It's So Easy with Duff, Slash & Matt before?

^ Where? I would love to see that. He might be a little "red" for that crowd. If he did join the guys, I could see some relaspes.

Go to youtube and search Loaded with Shooter Jennings or the other way around.  I tried to post the videos (there's 2), but with no success.  This was a Camp Freddy show, I believe, with Loaded.  Pre VR. 

Not available!!!

If you have it, PM please.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bVlQ2nSrQs4

I think this pretty much explains everything.

That, quite possibly was Shooter singing a GnR song, that has nothing to do with his lyrical ability. Besides, I would eat a mile of his mom's shit just to see were it came from(strawman argument).

Then too, after a couple of litres of fine whiskey, the ol' nogin don't work too good.  Though, thanks for link dude.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: lynn1961 on January 26, 2008, 11:52:17 AM
I was just going to post that it must have been the bourbon....... :hihi:   Makes one forget what happened the night before......


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: fuckin crazy on January 26, 2008, 11:54:46 AM
I was just going to post that it must have been the bourbon....... :hihi:   Makes one forget what happened the night before......

Dayum! it is daylight already.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Alan on January 26, 2008, 09:58:18 PM
If they need a new singer and don't explore Kid Rock I will be very dissappointed.  Kid has come so far and his latest album is awesome!

Billy Morrison would be a natural fit for obvious reasons

that would be my choice.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: D on January 26, 2008, 11:05:39 PM
After hearing Sebastian's solo album. I think he would be awesome with Slash and Duff.


2012 GNR reunion.

Once they play together at the R and Roll hall of fame, It will get their creative juices and minds rolling and Axl will forgive them and all will be awesome!



Ive said this since 2002

GNR are the new Aerosmith

Remember when Joe Perry and Brad Whitford left in the early 80's?

They came back and Aerosmith had a resurrection

Same will happen for GNR in 2012

mark it down!


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Thorned Rose on January 26, 2008, 11:12:30 PM
Yeah I know it man. I've always liked the thought of "Skid Roses"

Bach is a great great singer. His lyrical abilities have always been in question but his singing is much better than Weiland.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: kobys on January 27, 2008, 12:34:25 AM
Yeah I know it man. I've always liked the thought of "Skid Roses"

Bach is a great great singer. His lyrical abilities have always been in question but his singing is much better than Weiland.

But Slash himself said that when Bach auditioned for VR that the prob that they were running up against was that the band sounded just like Skid Row. And I can really believe that because SB has such a distinct sounding voice.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Voodoochild on January 27, 2008, 12:39:11 AM
Ive said this since 2002

GNR are the new Aerosmith

Remember when Joe Perry and Brad Whitford left in the early 80's?

They came back and Aerosmith had a resurrection

Same will happen for GNR in 2012

mark it down!
Tyler wasn't trying to reinvent himself and building up a legendary record with a new kick ass band.

If Axl didn't want anything with the guys when he was kinda lost, why would he do it now when he's starting to get everything up rolling?


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Feel_The_Burn on January 27, 2008, 12:53:48 AM
Ive said this since 2002

GNR are the new Aerosmith

Remember when Joe Perry and Brad Whitford left in the early 80's?

They came back and Aerosmith had a resurrection

Same will happen for GNR in 2012

mark it down!
Tyler wasn't trying to reinvent himself and building up a legendary record with a new kick ass band.

If Axl didn't want anything with the guys when he was kinda lost, why would he do it now when he's starting to get everything up rolling?

Yup unless CD bombs...... I do think they will play at least one more show together ( Axl and Slash at least ) maybe R N R hall of fame will be a one off thing which is what I'm thinking. In the rock world its inevitable that they reunite at least once but on a full scale thing unless CD bombs but i doubt.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Ines_rocks! on January 27, 2008, 11:21:21 AM
After hearing Sebastian's solo album. I think he would be awesome with Slash and Duff.





lol yeah... but sebastian doesn?t like Slash and Duff anymore...


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: CheapJon on January 27, 2008, 11:41:35 AM
After hearing Sebastian's solo album. I think he would be awesome with Slash and Duff.



lol yeah... but sebastian doesn?t like Slash and Duff anymore...

yeah he does, where have he stated that or you're making false assumptions?


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Ines_rocks! on January 27, 2008, 01:00:44 PM
After hearing Sebastian's solo album. I think he would be awesome with Slash and Duff.



lol yeah... but sebastian doesn?t like Slash and Duff anymore...

yeah he does, where have he stated that or you're making false assumptions?

lol are you sebastian?

Since he got rejected on the VR audition whenever he talks about Slash and Duff it?s always in a resentful tone. Slash even mentions that he doesn?t like him anymore in his book... There are several interviews where Sebastian talks about VR and its members in a very resentful tone (lol can?t remember any other adjective... sorry).

And you... where do you base you?re point of view?


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: mrlee on January 27, 2008, 01:30:19 PM
seb is probably pissed off with slash n duff over being rejected. and then hes hung with axl for a long time so hes gonna be a bit one sided now aint he lol.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Ines_rocks! on January 27, 2008, 01:34:31 PM
seb is probably pissed off with slash n duff over being rejected. and then hes hung with axl for a long time so hes gonna be a bit one sided now aint he lol.

lol exactly.  ;)


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: CheapJon on January 27, 2008, 01:34:39 PM
After hearing Sebastian's solo album. I think he would be awesome with Slash and Duff.



lol yeah... but sebastian doesn?t like Slash and Duff anymore...

yeah he does, where have he stated that or you're making false assumptions?

lol are you sebastian?

Since he got rejected on the VR audition whenever he talks about Slash and Duff it?s always in a resentful tone. Slash even mentions that he doesn?t like him anymore in his book... There are several interviews where Sebastian talks about VR and its members in a very resentful tone (lol can?t remember any other adjective... sorry).

And you... where do you base you?re point of view?

no i'm not sebastian, i'm sorry if i said anything that made you believe that

I've read shitloads of interviews with sebastian since the promotion of angel down began and in them he has been asked about his relationship to slash, duff and axl these days.. here's a part of one of them

Quote
Q: I always stick up for the lineup when people go "It's not the true GN'R..."

Sebastian: "what's better... Slash and Duff doing STONE TEMPLE PILOTS songs? I'd rather hear Axl sing 'Welcome To The Jungle' with Tommy Stinson on bass... I love Duff McKagan, but he's busy." (Laughs)

i can't remember once that he have spoken badly about slash or duff

i haven't read slash's book but i've read a lot of shit about the book and there are plenty of errors, and how can one rather believe slash saying that baz isn't liking him when baz himself says that he likes them  ???


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Ines_rocks! on January 27, 2008, 02:42:04 PM
After hearing Sebastian's solo album. I think he would be awesome with Slash and Duff.



lol yeah... but sebastian doesn´t like Slash and Duff anymore...

yeah he does, where have he stated that or you're making false assumptions?

lol are you sebastian?

Since he got rejected on the VR audition whenever he talks about Slash and Duff it´s always in a resentful tone. Slash even mentions that he doesn´t like him anymore in his book... There are several interviews where Sebastian talks about VR and its members in a very resentful tone (lol can´t remember any other adjective... sorry).

And you... where do you base you´re point of view?

no i'm not sebastian, i'm sorry if i said anything that made you believe that

I've read shitloads of interviews with sebastian since the promotion of angel down began and in them he has been asked about his relationship to slash, duff and axl these days.. here's a part of one of them

Quote
Q: I always stick up for the lineup when people go "It's not the true GN'R..."

Sebastian: "what's better... Slash and Duff doing STONE TEMPLE PILOTS songs? I'd rather hear Axl sing 'Welcome To The Jungle' with Tommy Stinson on bass... I love Duff McKagan, but he's busy." (Laughs)

i can't remember once that he have spoken badly about slash or duff

i haven't read slash's book but i've read a lot of shit about the book and there are plenty of errors, and how can one rather believe slash saying that baz isn't liking him when baz himself says that he likes them  ???


lol in your quote he only mentioned Duff....

If I wasn´t busy atm I´d find some quotes... for now, I can only stick to what I remember. lol and excuse me, but as a Gn´R fan I prefer believing Slash than Sebastian... ;)


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: jarmo on January 27, 2008, 02:44:27 PM
excuse me, but as a Gn?R fan I prefer believing Slash than Sebastian... ;)

I don't believe Slash and I'm a GN'R fan....

I also have a hard time believing everything Duff says.... "Scott missed his plane, yeah, let?s say that, Scott missed his plane?? doesn't sound too convincing to me.




/jarmo


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: D on January 27, 2008, 03:55:21 PM
Happy people don't get back with former bands. Thats just how I see it. Everything really seems over in VR.  Im not likin the sound of all this.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: CheapJon on January 27, 2008, 03:56:43 PM
lol in your quote he only mentioned Duff....

If I wasn?t busy atm I?d find some quotes... for now, I can only stick to what I remember. lol and excuse me, but as a Gn?R fan I prefer believing Slash than Sebastian... ;)

lol

well you said he spoke "recentfully" about both slash and duff so i figured finding one quote mentioning one of 'em was enough lol.....  lol yeah please find me some quotes lol where baz is talking with a recentful tone about slash and duff lol ..........  ;)

I am nothing more then a man so if you find those quotes i will stand corrected  :) it's not a big deal really

being a GNR fan has nothing to do with this we're all GNR fans here you know  : ok: .. I just think that Baz knows better/more about his feelings towards slash and duff then slash does.. i mean doesn't that make sense?
by your logic you know better how i feel about you then i nkow how i feel about you :confused:


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Trist805 on January 27, 2008, 04:43:44 PM
Happy people don't get back with former bands. Thats just how I see it. Everything really seems over in VR.  Im not likin the sound of all this.

Are you talking about Scott?  Cuz I could actually see him doing the STP thing as just a way to maybe make some extra money.  I'm not sure how successful the Libertad tour was.   It seemed like they had to do stuff like M&G to get extra cash, and Scott wasn't involved in that.   Deep down it is probably a good idea to end things on a better note with STP.  Hopefully he will go back to VR, cuz I could not stand Sebastian Bach in that group.  It would be wayyy too cheesy.   I also think they have established something with VR that would be more successful than trying to start over.  I hope that it is something that they can just talk about instead of letting all the rumors decide their fate.   Right now tho it does kind of seem to be VR band vs. Scott. 


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: D on January 27, 2008, 05:02:39 PM
I guess I am old school


To me being in a band is like being married.

Playing in side projects, other bands etc is like cheating on your wife.


Thats why I hate the GNR side projects so much.


Im in a band and I'd never go off and join another band cause to me that just isn't right.


a band is a unit and should stick together regardless.

Scott rejoining STP sends the wrong message.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: CheapJon on January 27, 2008, 05:30:33 PM
Hopefully he will go back to VR, cuz I could not stand Sebastian Bach in that group.  It would be wayyy too cheesy. 

so you're taking for granted that if scott leaves baz will be the first guy the band will call? I wouldn't bet on that.. since they tried out and it didn't work i think they'd try someone else


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Trist805 on January 27, 2008, 05:38:45 PM
I agree with that, and that the breakup of a band can be just as bad as a breakup of a serious relationship.   If I had it my way,  VR would be the main priority, and there would be no solo projects, books, etc.  to interfer with them making the best record possible.    I guess they also have to keep other options open.   This could also be them having to deal with the new music scene as opposed to being old school.   Except for maybe a Slash solo album, I don't see a Scott Weiland or Duff album being nearly as successful as VR.  I think at this point, there is potential, but it may also have to be one of a few things going on, in order for them to really be successful.   I'm starting to see VR as an amazing band that some ppl just didn't catch onto because the resentment some ppl have towards Scott Weiland or the band as a whole, mainly from the GNR fans that followed them over.    Maybe Scott does need to leave, and then you still have Matt, Slash, Duff, and then maybe Dave with a new singer.   As a Weiland fan coming to VR, I can say those other guys have totally won me over as well. 


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: jarmo on January 27, 2008, 06:05:02 PM
I guess I am old school


To me being in a band is like being married.

Playing in side projects, other bands etc is like cheating on your wife.


How about promoting a video game and a book while your band is in between legs of a tour?




/jarmo


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Feel_The_Burn on January 27, 2008, 06:10:04 PM
I guess I am old school


To me being in a band is like being married.

Playing in side projects, other bands etc is like cheating on your wife.


How about promoting a video game and a book while your band is in between legs of a tour?




/jarmo

Duff , Matt , and Slash do Camp Freddy

Scott does it sometimes...

Whats wrong with side projects? If an artist wants to play then do it , being in a band shouldn't hold you back from that. Jarmo in this case I think he isn't really saying its the fact that Scott will spend time off from the band , I think he is taken more so by the fact that its other musicians.... I don't have an issue with either promoting the book or doing a side project. Although a reunion with your former band isn't really a "side project" no matter how you look at it , if Axl told the guys HEY I'm just going to do a couple summer shows with the old guys , that be complete BS. I think what scott is doing is wrong and if he does shows with STP then VR need to move on with out him. Playing with your ex band is not by any means some form of side project.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on January 27, 2008, 07:11:57 PM
I see nothing wrong with side projects - if Scott wants to tour with STP this summer more power to him . We should not assume because of this he is leaving VR or going to make another album with STP.

Sometimes side projects can bring in a shot of creativity. Guess we'll just have to wait & see if STP this summer is a side project or full time commitment for Scott.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: lynn1961 on January 27, 2008, 07:50:47 PM
Great post, Shaman!  For one, I think people need to quit thinking about Scott's "no show", at Sundance.  He's been at every concert, since....one "no show" in 4 or 5 yrs.  Says nothing, to me. (People do that, at work, far more than that!)   I saw them, Sat night - they looked tight & fine, to me.  And the STP tour, this summer, may be just that...a summer tour.  Maybe VR is done - maybe they are not.  We'll just have to wait & see.   No point in speculating ourselves crazy!   


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: D on January 27, 2008, 09:16:37 PM
I feel the band u are in should have a level of success before the members go off and do solo projects.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Jim Bob on January 27, 2008, 09:32:38 PM
I feel the band u are in should have a level of success before the members go off and do solo projects.

thankfully you are of a small minority and musicans have the freedom to do whatever the fuck they want.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Feel_The_Burn on January 27, 2008, 09:57:29 PM
I feel the band u are in should have a level of success before the members go off and do solo projects.

thankfully you are of a small minority and musicans have the freedom to do whatever the fuck they want.

 :beer: Don't subject musicians


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Christos AG on January 28, 2008, 01:31:57 AM
Great post, Shaman!  For one, I think people need to quit thinking about Scott's "no show", at Sundance.  He's been at every concert, since....one "no show" in 4 or 5 yrs.  Says nothing, to me. (People do that, at work, far more than that!)   I saw them, Sat night - they looked tight & fine, to me.  And the STP tour, this summer, may be just that...a summer tour.  Maybe VR is done - maybe they are not.  We'll just have to wait & see.   No point in speculating ourselves crazy!   

The "no show" was not the problem, at the time...

The problem started after Duff made those comments...


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Fingers on January 28, 2008, 09:29:27 AM
I think Duff at 40 something has done this for a long time, and after going through stuff with GNR and now VR is simply saying whatever happens, happens-he left one of the biggest bands in the world 10+ years ago and survived, and if this ends, while it would suck for him, life will go on


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on January 28, 2008, 02:36:11 PM
From The Detroit News

Thursday, January 24, 2008

McKagan admits that the first album was just about the band coming together to prove a point. "At the time we made the first record there were a lot of nay-sayers," McKagan says by phone. "We made this really loud abrasive record. By the time we got to the second record and tour, we figured out who we are as a band."

With so much star power locked in one supergroup, you have to wonder about the power struggles. But McKagan seems to take that factor in stride.

"Anytime you have strong personalities you will have a clash, but you learn how to get around it," he says. "Like any relationship, you learn that you can't change a person."

http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080124/ENT04/801240414/1424/ENT04


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on January 28, 2008, 04:19:37 PM
From MTV...

While no one from the STP camp has said definitively that the comeback is a go, Weiland did recently tell The Miami Herald that fans should "be on the lookout" for an STP reunion in the coming months. And then there's this week's Billboard story, which says that Weiland's Velvet Revolver bandmate Slash claimed the singer will rejoin his former bandmates in Stone Temple Pilots for a handful of summer reunion shows this summer ? although the article contains no quote of him saying that.

Hmmm. Last anyone can remember, Slash was never a member of Stone Temple Pilots, and it hasn't yet been revealed what the guitarist actually said on the matter. What MTV News can tell you is that negotiations are still ongoing, but it's looking very likely that Stone Temple Pilots will be coming to a town near you this summer. According to numerous sources close to the band and others who work in various capacities throughout the industry, the reunion tour is on. Some claim venues have already been reserved throughout the country for the trek, and others say they're actively trying to secure their bands opening slots on the proposed run.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1580339/20080125/stone_temple_pilots.jhtml?rsspartner=rssColdFusion


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Smoking Guns on January 28, 2008, 05:08:44 PM
Will STP play any VR songs?  ha, that would be weird. 


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Alan on January 28, 2008, 06:00:27 PM
From MTV...

Weiland's Velvet Revolver bandmate Slash claimed the singer will rejoin his former bandmates in Stone Temple Pilots for a handful of summer reunion shows this summer ? although the article contains no quote of him saying that.

Hmmm. Last anyone can remember, Slash was never a member of Stone Temple Pilots

MTV's reporters lack the intelligence to understand the english language.

at no point was it insinuated that slash was a member of STP. you'd think such a big company would have proof readers really.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Feel_The_Burn on January 28, 2008, 07:07:58 PM
From MTV...

Weiland's Velvet Revolver bandmate Slash claimed the singer will rejoin his former bandmates in Stone Temple Pilots for a handful of summer reunion shows this summer ? although the article contains no quote of him saying that.

Hmmm. Last anyone can remember, Slash was never a member of Stone Temple Pilots

MTV's reporters lack the intelligence to understand the english language.

at no point was it insinuated that slash was a member of STP. you'd think such a big company would have proof readers really.

YOU didn't get it , they where insinuating that VR could be over..


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on January 28, 2008, 08:50:54 PM
According to numerous sources close to the band and others who work in various capacities throughout the industry, the reunion tour is on. Some claim venues have already been reserved throughout the country for the trek, and others say they're actively trying to secure their bands opening slots on the proposed run.


Sounds like more than a handful of shows.



Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on January 29, 2008, 11:58:04 AM
From MTV...

Weiland's Velvet Revolver bandmate Slash claimed the singer will rejoin his former bandmates in Stone Temple Pilots for a handful of summer reunion shows this summer ? although the article contains no quote of him saying that.

Hmmm. Last anyone can remember, Slash was never a member of Stone Temple Pilots

MTV's reporters lack the intelligence to understand the english language.

at no point was it insinuated that slash was a member of STP. you'd think such a big company would have proof readers really.

YOU didn't get it , they where insinuating that VR could be over..

Beat me to it! :yes:


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on February 01, 2008, 11:58:29 AM
STONE TEMPLE PILOTS To Perform At Ohio's ROCK ON THE RANGE? - Feb. 1, 2008

According to HardDrive Radio, the reunited STONE TEMPLE PILOTS will perform at the Rock on the Range on May 17 in Columbus, Ohio.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=89760


Also this from belowempty.com on Wiki...more rumors. :-\

There is a rumour going around L.A. that there's pre-production for new STP-material going on at Eric Kretz' Bombshelter Studios in Los Angeles. There's no word if the DeLeo brothers are involved, but according to the reports, Eric is laying down basis drum tracks for material that will be worked on once Scott wraps up the current Velvet Revolver tour on April 1st in Amsterdam.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: LunsJail on February 01, 2008, 02:30:58 PM
STONE TEMPLE PILOTS To Perform At Ohio's ROCK ON THE RANGE? - Feb. 1, 2008

According to HardDrive Radio, the reunited STONE TEMPLE PILOTS will perform at the Rock on the Range on May 17 in Columbus, Ohio.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=89760


Also this from belowempty.com on Wiki...more rumors. :-\

There is a rumour going around L.A. that there's pre-production for new STP-material going on at Eric Kretz' Bombshelter Studios in Los Angeles. There's no word if the DeLeo brothers are involved, but according to the reports, Eric is laying down basis drum tracks for material that will be worked on once Scott wraps up the current Velvet Revolver tour on April 1st in Amsterdam.


And so it begins....


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: JDA on February 01, 2008, 03:09:36 PM
Sweet!  I love STP.  Hopefully, they put out a new cd as well because the last one was not great.   


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: erose on February 01, 2008, 03:19:34 PM
Might Slash maybe guest on a few stp tracks?


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Falcon on February 01, 2008, 04:35:09 PM
Might Slash maybe guest on a few stp tracks?

No chance.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: faldor on February 01, 2008, 07:23:24 PM
Might Slash maybe guest on a few stp tracks?
I would say Slash wouldn't want to be anywhere near an STP project, but then again he's worked with just about everyone so who knows.  But I'd say no.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on February 03, 2008, 04:52:25 PM
I guess this is trouble for Scott :D

Does anyone know why Scott performed in Austin TX without one of his front teeth?  Just a new look?

Velvet Revolver in Concert at Stubb's - January 31, 2008
AUSTIN, TX - JANUARY 31: Scott Weiland shows off his missing tooth while Slash plays in the backround with Velvet Revolver at Stubb's on January 31, 2008 in Austin, Texas. (Photo by Gary Miller/FilmMagic)

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?contractUrl=1&language=en-US&family=editorial&p=scott%20weiland&src=standard#2



Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: lynn1961 on February 03, 2008, 07:22:29 PM
Looks great, doesn't it?   :hihi:   

He's been looking like that for the last few weeks.  Apparently, a cap fell out, somewhere. 


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: r3dhawk6 on February 03, 2008, 08:02:18 PM

Does anyone know why Scott performed in Austin TX without one of his front teeth?  Just a new look?


someone at the show said "Scott stopped the band after Matt started Sucker Train to tell the audience about his teeth: According to Scott: He was in Europe some time ago, and was 'kidnapped' by 3 big guys and beaten up.  'One tooth is cracked, and the other one just fell out.  But I am alive, and thats all that matters.  Thats what happens when we we get kicked or fall down, we get up and keep on trucking'."



Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: lynn1961 on February 03, 2008, 08:22:37 PM
That's a bullshit story, if I ever heard one! 


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Feel_The_Burn on February 03, 2008, 08:24:47 PM
That's a bullshit story, if I ever heard one! 

And you're a GNR fan so you've def' heard one  :rofl:

But seriously , I doubt anyone will buy scott's alibi.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: r3dhawk6 on February 03, 2008, 08:34:27 PM
I'm pretty sure he was just joking around...at least that's the way I took it

I love VR and hope they stay together and keep rockin' for a long time, but if Scott wants/needs to go (and its seems he does) then that's what he should do.  If its just a hiatus for the band great, but if its permanent I hope they try to continue with another singer...maybe Izzy or someone mentioned Billy M who would be better than Kid Rock or some of the others mentioned


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Smoking Guns on February 04, 2008, 12:26:18 AM
This is wild.  This has real legs now.  What will Slash and Duff do?  Hmmmm..... 


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Jim Bob on February 04, 2008, 12:38:37 AM
This is wild.  This has real legs now.  What will Slash and Duff do?  Hmmmm..... 

Slash might do his solo album, Duff seems content with laying low.

or maybe they'll write the next VR album while Scott is on tour with STP and depending on how that goes maybe Scott would be able to come back and do the lyrics/vocals.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Feel_The_Burn on February 04, 2008, 01:16:40 AM
This is wild.  This has real legs now.  What will Slash and Duff do?  Hmmmm..... 

Slash might do his solo album, Duff seems content with laying low.

or maybe they'll write the next VR album while Scott is on tour with STP and depending on how that goes maybe Scott would be able to come back and do the lyrics/vocals.


First one sounds more logical , I just don't see that happening.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on February 04, 2008, 01:28:58 AM
We all know Mrs. Weiland beat him up.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Jim Bob on February 04, 2008, 01:30:48 AM
This is wild.  This has real legs now.  What will Slash and Duff do?  Hmmmm..... 

Slash might do his solo album, Duff seems content with laying low.

or maybe they'll write the next VR album while Scott is on tour with STP and depending on how that goes maybe Scott would be able to come back and do the lyrics/vocals.


First one sounds more logical , I just don't see that happening.

VR and STP can co-exist.   There is more demand for STP, but they will most likely go on tour and remember why they went on hiatus in the first place.  Those guys don't get along.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Feel_The_Burn on February 04, 2008, 01:46:56 AM
This is wild.  This has real legs now.  What will Slash and Duff do?  Hmmmm..... 

Slash might do his solo album, Duff seems content with laying low.

or maybe they'll write the next VR album while Scott is on tour with STP and depending on how that goes maybe Scott would be able to come back and do the lyrics/vocals.


First one sounds more logical , I just don't see that happening.

VR and STP can co-exist.   There is more demand for STP, but they will most likely go on tour and remember why they went on hiatus in the first place.  Those guys don't get along.


Never crossed my mind , good idea though hmmm



Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: fuckin crazy on February 04, 2008, 01:49:48 AM
Touring with them is one thing, but if STP start working on a new album, as has been rumored, I think it will be the end of his tenure with VR. Possibly, the end of VR.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: LunsJail on February 04, 2008, 11:19:30 AM
This is wild.  This has real legs now.  What will Slash and Duff do?  Hmmmm..... 

Slash might do his solo album, Duff seems content with laying low.

or maybe they'll write the next VR album while Scott is on tour with STP and depending on how that goes maybe Scott would be able to come back and do the lyrics/vocals.


First one sounds more logical , I just don't see that happening.

VR and STP can co-exist.   There is more demand for STP, but they will most likely go on tour and remember why they went on hiatus in the first place.  Those guys don't get along.


And if Scott isn't clean, then all these scenarios are probably doomed to failure.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on February 04, 2008, 03:38:58 PM

VR and STP can co-exist.   There is more demand for STP, but they will most likely go on tour and remember why they went on hiatus in the first place.  Those guys don't get along.


OR.....they start hanging out and recording and realize that they never should have split in the first place!  I don't know man, I'm all for optimism, but this just reaks to me as the beginning of the end for Velvet Revolver -


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: axl2 on February 04, 2008, 04:23:31 PM
This is wild.  This has real legs now.  What will Slash and Duff do?  Hmmmm..... 

You thinking what I'm thinking!? ;)


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Jizzo on February 04, 2008, 04:45:54 PM
i think if stp has an album needing vocals in the can it would be amazing.

velvet revolver wouldnt be over if scott made a new stp album and toured. they could spend the time relaxing and preparing their own next album.

stp and vr can both survive.

look at APC and Tool


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Eclipsed107 on February 05, 2008, 10:51:09 PM
This is wild.  This has real legs now.  What will Slash and Duff do?  Hmmmm..... 

Slash might do his solo album, Duff seems content with laying low.

or maybe they'll write the next VR album while Scott is on tour with STP and depending on how that goes maybe Scott would be able to come back and do the lyrics/vocals.


First one sounds more logical , I just don't see that happening.

VR and STP can co-exist.   There is more demand for STP, but they will most likely go on tour and remember why they went on hiatus in the first place.  Those guys don't get along.


Truthfully, I doubt it.

I think if Scott gets back together with STP, it'll be the end of VR.  Even if Scott is willing to go back to VR, I don't think the rest of the guys would want to go back.

Honestly I'd be much more happy with STP getting back together, they had the magic that VR don't, even though VR is a good band.

I'd like to see Duff, Slash and Matt get together with Izzy and do an album.. they already have one written!


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Angel Down on February 06, 2008, 12:44:30 AM
From the...

Speculation from inside the band's camp

It sounds like VR were not sure.

Yeah, I figured as much, but I was wondering if there were any rumors or anything else out there.

Ali

In December, some papers reported that Scott was involved in a drink driving incident, crashing his car. He had to attend court in January, which delayed the Australian tour.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on February 06, 2008, 09:00:43 AM
Scott could be in both bands.

It worked with Tool & A perfect circle......


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on February 06, 2008, 11:18:24 AM
Scott could be in both bands.

It worked with Tool & A perfect circle......

It did work for Tool & APC, but the difference is neither of those bands have someone with a persona as large as Slash's. Trust me, neither of those bands is exactly thrilled when Maynard takes a hiatus and joins the other one for awhile. Slash just doesn't strike me as the type to sit around and wait to be called by Weiland to get together because he's ready to make a third Velvet Revolver album


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on February 06, 2008, 11:35:22 PM
From 411mania.com

Stone Temple Pilots/Velvet Revolver Rumors

Mitch Michaels: Rumors and pithy comments have been flying in the Velvet Revolver camp, most of them pointing to a reunion of frontman Scott Weiland's old group, Stone Temple Pilots. Weiland said that a reunion with the STP boys was eminent, while Slash went further and said that Scott would be joining STP for a tour once VR got off the road. Meanwhile, VR's Duff McKagan didn't know what the fuck was going on. Take heed Revolver fans: this is how it started with Audioslave. A one-off Rage Against The Machine reunion, and suddenly your favorite supergroup is super history.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Feel_The_Burn on February 07, 2008, 12:30:54 AM
From 411mania.com

Stone Temple Pilots/Velvet Revolver Rumors

Mitch Michaels: Rumors and pithy comments have been flying in the Velvet Revolver camp, most of them pointing to a reunion of frontman Scott Weiland's old group, Stone Temple Pilots. Weiland said that a reunion with the STP boys was eminent, while Slash went further and said that Scott would be joining STP for a tour once VR got off the road. Meanwhile, VR's Duff McKagan didn't know what the fuck was going on. Take heed Revolver fans: this is how it started with Audioslave. A one-off Rage Against The Machine reunion, and suddenly your favorite supergroup is super history.

Sucks but that's what I think too.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Smoking Guns on February 07, 2008, 12:39:02 AM
What the fuck. Ugh, I like Slash, Matt, and Duff together.  I like Dave too.  VR needs new singer.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on February 07, 2008, 10:04:45 AM
From SignOnSanDiego.com

February 7, 2008

The Grammy-winning band, now on tour to promote its second album, ?Libertad,? plans to record its third album after singer Weiland completes a summer reunion tour with his previous group, Stone Temple Pilots.

?It won't impact Velvet Revolver,? Slash said of the reunion, ?not unless something more than that happens. Velvet Revolver is all-consuming.?

 :-\


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: faldor on February 07, 2008, 11:55:21 AM
Well if STP is a  popular as they once were, which is more popular than VR today , that could be the end.  The question is, is the public clamoring for an STP reunion?  I know Matt Sorum doesn't think so.  However it doesn't seem like the public is clamoring for a follow up to Libertad either.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Bodhi on February 07, 2008, 12:31:36 PM
nah nobody cares about STP anymore...and I highly doubt there are alot of STP people out there who would buy a Weiland led STP album and not a Weiland led VR album...so i dont think a STP record will outsell Libertad....they should just put Libertad behind them and make a new record...I know they have 1 record left on this contract so they have to put out something..unless they put out a live album which I would also be happy with


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Eclipsed107 on February 08, 2008, 03:08:16 PM
You people are crazy if you think that a STP reunion won't get people's attention.

Hell, look at the attention that the AIC reunion got, and they don't even have the original lead singer.

I don't know if a STP reunion will last over time, but a STP reunion tour and album would be huge.


Title: Loaded album & tour in 2008
Post by: WhatIsItMan on February 08, 2008, 05:36:10 PM
Just posted this in the "Velvet Revolver Tour Canceled" thread, looked around and didn't see it anywhere else...

Duff's "Loaded" MySpace page states that there will be a new Loaded album & tour in 2008.

Check it out:

http://www.myspace.com/loadedlamf


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: r3dhawk6 on February 09, 2008, 01:44:53 AM
Slash just doesn't strike me as the type to sit around and wait to be called by Weiland to get together because he's ready to make a third Velvet Revolver album

Exactly!  Me neither and besides "sitting around and waiting" + Slash is not a good combo


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: SpiritDave on February 09, 2008, 12:02:05 PM
I think people remember STP as being more important than they were :P

They simply weren't ... Scott's drug related shit was the main reason they got attention.  And Sex Type Thing.

I mean ... really ... guys .... they weren't that good!

One other thing ... a small handful of dates means nothing.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Bill 213 on February 09, 2008, 12:23:22 PM
I think people remember STP as being more important than they were :P

They simply weren't ... Scott's drug related shit was the main reason they got attention.  And Sex Type Thing.

I mean ... really ... guys .... they weren't that good!

One other thing ... a small handful of dates means nothing.

Your own opinion......and yes, yes they were were good.  Sex Type Thing, Creep, Wicked Garden, Plush, Vaseline, Interstate Love Song, Big Empty.......all mainstream hits.  The last three albums were really good and a nice depature from their standard playing.  No one cared about Scott's drug problems when STP were huge because 10 years ago the media still didn't have the raging hard on for drama that they have today.  You forget back in the 80's/early 90's EVERYONE was still on drugs and it wasn't like they hid it and pretended to be precious angels, so it was no suprise if someone got arrested...you just said, "who didn't know that." 
Today everyone acts like Mother Theresa by using the "Oh, I've had some problems, went to rehab, but I'm fine now" routine.  Fuck that.....if you're going to do drugs, do 'em.....don't waste your time or money in rehab.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: jarmo on February 09, 2008, 12:24:02 PM
I think people remember STP as being more important than they were :P


That's how it appears to us in Europe, well you're in the UK (refuses to admit to being part of Europe  ;)  :hihi: )....

Americans disagree with us since STP was huge over there.



/jarmo


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on February 09, 2008, 12:32:33 PM
The latest rumor....

VELVET REVOLVER fires SCOTT WEILAND?

From www.MELODICROCK.com:

And...take it for what it is worth, but a source of mine is today suggesting that Scott Weilend has been fired from Velvet Revolver and is in rehab. Who knows...

We here at www.theMETALreport.com find this rumor very interesting and fitting considering Mr. Weiland is back in rehab and STONE TEMPLE PILOTS have made tour dates for this summer. Check back for more on this story.

Posted on February 08, 2008 at 06:26 PM

http://www.themetalreport.com/


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: fuckin crazy on February 09, 2008, 02:45:27 PM

From www.MELODICROCK.com:

And...take it for what it is worth, but a source of mine is today suggesting that Scott Weilend has been fired from Velvet Revolver and is in rehab. Who knows...

Wasn't that a post that was lifted off the VR message board? Are other sites running with it? That is kind of funny.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on February 09, 2008, 02:50:03 PM

From www.MELODICROCK.com:

And...take it for what it is worth, but a source of mine is today suggesting that Scott Weilend has been fired from Velvet Revolver and is in rehab. Who knows...

Wasn't that a post that was lifted off the VR message board? Are other sites running with it? That is kind of funny.

No I did not get it off of the VR message board...it does look like other sites are running with it.



Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: fuckin crazy on February 09, 2008, 02:52:56 PM

From www.MELODICROCK.com:

And...take it for what it is worth, but a source of mine is today suggesting that Scott Weilend has been fired from Velvet Revolver and is in rehab. Who knows...

Wasn't that a post that was lifted off the VR message board? Are other sites running with it? That is kind of funny.

No I did not get it off of the VR message board...it does look like other sites are running with it.



I didn't mean you lifted it; I meant that Melodi-crock lifted it. Now it has a life of it's own.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on February 09, 2008, 03:05:50 PM

From www.MELODICROCK.com:

And...take it for what it is worth, but a source of mine is today suggesting that Scott Weilend has been fired from Velvet Revolver and is in rehab. Who knows...

Wasn't that a post that was lifted off the VR message board? Are other sites running with it? That is kind of funny.

No I did not get it off of the VR message board...it does look like other sites are running with it.



I didn't mean you lifted it; I meant that Melodi-crock lifted it. Now it has a life of it's own.

I don't where it originated...but the rumor is out there, I guess time will tell.



Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on February 09, 2008, 04:42:31 PM
Now this is from the VR forum :D

velvet_revolver_fan01 says

hold your horses.....all this bullshit talk can stop....an answer will be given 2nite.....if u listen to indie103.1 6-8.....i do believe mr matt sorum will be in the house!


http://www.indie1031.com/4045_Listen_Live.php?id=27

That's pacific time...we'll see. :-\


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: gnr2k6 on February 09, 2008, 05:07:09 PM
yup that was me on the vr forum.
i was with matt the other nite and said the san diego show was cancelled he was in a good mood and never mentioned anything about vr breaking up.....if they were he would have mentioned it...after mr billy duffy was with us aswell and we spoke alot about vr and the cult.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Feel_The_Burn on February 09, 2008, 05:13:10 PM
I think people remember STP as being more important than they were :P


That's how it appears to us in Europe, well you're in the UK (refuses to admit to being part of Europe  ;)  :hihi: )....

Americans disagree with us since STP was huge over there.



/jarmo


STP was never that big....


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: fuckin crazy on February 09, 2008, 05:38:58 PM
I think people remember STP as being more important than they were :P


That's how it appears to us in Europe, well you're in the UK (refuses to admit to being part of Europe  ;)  :hihi: )....

Americans disagree with us since STP was huge over there.



/jarmo


STP was never that big....

Were you around back then? They were huge.

yup that was me on the vr forum.
i was with matt the other nite and said the san diego show was cancelled he was in a good mood and never mentioned anything about vr breaking up.....if they were he would have mentioned it...after mr billy duffy was with us aswell and we spoke alot about vr and the cult.

Thanks for clarifying that.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Falcon on February 09, 2008, 06:19:27 PM
Looks as thought Matt may be on Camp Freddy Radio tonight with Billy Morrison, let's see if the subject of Weiland/STP/rehab comes up..

http://www.billymorrison.net/weblog/


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on February 09, 2008, 11:13:40 PM
Looks as thought Matt may be on Camp Freddy Radio tonight with Billy Morrison, let's see if the subject of Weiland/STP/rehab comes up..

http://www.billymorrison.net/weblog/

So Matt did not show? :-\


Title: Re: Loaded album & tour in 2008
Post by: Nico Rose on February 10, 2008, 10:48:55 AM
Cool.  :D

Thanks for the note. ;)


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on February 11, 2008, 05:48:36 PM
From a December 2007 interview.... :D


Now if you had to start from scratch Mr McKagan, and summon rock legends for your own supergroup?Velvet Revolver excluded of course?who?s getting your call?

?Wow,? Duff exclaims, taking a moment to get the wheels turning. ?That?s a great question?it?d be pretty huge. You?d have Jimmy Page in there. Jeff Beck. Probably Dave Grohl and you?d have to have John Bonham playing drums right??

Like an idiot I shriek, ? Jon Bon Jovi! Are you crazy?!? and immediately kick myself. Hard. Duff, after happily clarifying, continues, ? John Paul Jones playing bass?so it?d be three quarters of Led Zeppelin in my dream band.?

http://www.fasterlouder.com.au/features/11586/Velvet-Revolver-feeling-liberated.htm


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on February 11, 2008, 09:23:18 PM
From Eddie Trunk's Blog 2/10/08

After the Giants victory Velvet Revolver was rolling into the same venue at the Hard Rock I watched the game in (The Joint) to play that night. Sent Slash a text that I was in town and he was nice enought to set me up with tickets and passes for the night. Had a chance to chat with Slash pre-show for a bit. He is still totally clean and sober and doing really well. Slash has been on my show a number of times and this is by far the best version of the guy and I'm glad he has kept it together. He and I hung in Vegas a couple years ago and he was a mess then, great now. He asked me how Ace was doing and we talked about the current VR tour. Plans call for a new VR CD soon after some European tour dates. VR live is a kick ass band, but still think their best CD is ahead of them. They did 3 STP tunes, 3 G&R tunes and a Pink Floyd cover, around songs from both VR albums. Looks like Weiland might also be doing some STP shows again as well.

http://www.eddietrunk.com/blogarticle.php?columns_id=1039

 :-\


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Ali on February 11, 2008, 09:38:07 PM
From Eddie Trunk's Blog 2/10/08

After the Giants victory Velvet Revolver was rolling into the same venue at the Hard Rock I watched the game in (The Joint) to play that night. Sent Slash a text that I was in town and he was nice enought to set me up with tickets and passes for the night. Had a chance to chat with Slash pre-show for a bit. He is still totally clean and sober and doing really well. Slash has been on my show a number of times and this is by far the best version of the guy and I'm glad he has kept it together. He and I hung in Vegas a couple years ago and he was a mess then, great now. He asked me how Ace was doing and we talked about the current VR tour. Plans call for a new VR CD soon after some European tour dates. VR live is a kick ass band, but still think their best CD is ahead of them. They did 3 STP tunes, 3 G&R tunes and a Pink Floyd cover, around songs from both VR albums. Looks like Weiland might also be doing some STP shows again as well.

http://www.eddietrunk.com/blogarticle.php?columns_id=1039

 :-\

That was before everything went down with Weiland going into rehab, right?  So, it seems it bit outdated to me.

Ali


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on February 11, 2008, 09:57:58 PM
Well it looks like STP is going ahead anyway...

STONE TEMPLE PILOTS To Headline ROCK ON THE RANGE Festival - Feb. 11, 2008

As widely expected, the reunited STONE TEMPLE PILOTS have been confirmed as the headliners of the Rock on the Range festival, set to take place May 17-18 at the Columbus Crew Stadium in Ohio. The band's participation in the event is expected to be officially announced tomorrow (February 12).

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=90518



Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Ali on February 11, 2008, 10:04:35 PM
Well it looks like STP is going ahead anyway...

STONE TEMPLE PILOTS To Headline ROCK ON THE RANGE Festival - Feb. 11, 2008

As widely expected, the reunited STONE TEMPLE PILOTS have been confirmed as the headliners of the Rock on the Range festival, set to take place May 17-18 at the Columbus Crew Stadium in Ohio. The band's participation in the event is expected to be officially announced tomorrow (February 12).

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=90518



I say wait and see what happens and it all affects VR.  I'm curious to say the least.

I wonder what this means for VR.  After all, Weiland is going to need some rehearsal time with STP to get back in the groove.

Ali


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: elmir on February 12, 2008, 06:05:07 AM
I wonder what this means for VR. 

you know what...regardless what some on here may think of Scott....he is the biggest victim in this gnr/vr fiasco, and i am very happy for him that this has come up....he has done nothing but support his bandmates, tolerated constant gnr/axl comparisons, insults form his current bandmates (Sorum), and still managed to stay as objective as possible....the naughty letter to Axl aside...but i think he was merely doing that to keep vr in shape, when even he was doubting slash's intentions....

good for him....i hope stp get back together and make tons of cash on this reunion tour....he was being fucked over by slash who just wanted to be the glory boy again, and who wasn't really interested in making legendary music...he'd prefer to have his own solo gig....and he should do it...

i wonder if this stp selling out concerts is making sorum eat his own words.....


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: faldor on February 12, 2008, 09:14:48 AM
Is STP selling out concerts?  Not yet I don't think.  I do think they'll do well though, if it indeed does happen.  Which will in a way make Sorum eat his words.  However, in his defense, I think he was more comparing an STP reunion with a GNR reunion.  I think that would dwarf an STP reunion, but it ain't gonna happen and in the same breath I think both would be larger than a VR tour.  Velvet Revolver just didn't catch on with the masses, they never even became as popular as Audioslave.  Don't get me wrong, I like'em, it just didn't work out quite as I envisioned or hoped.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on February 12, 2008, 01:32:06 PM
Matt comments on Scott's rehab...


As for Weiland's condition, VR drummer Matt Sorum told EW.com that Scott is "doing okay" in treatment. "He checked himself in to rehab," Sorum said on Saturday at Clive Davis's pre-Grammy party. "Scott took the initiative to get in there. Nobody forced him, and that's a good thing. You see shows on TV, like Intervention, but until you're really ready to get clean and sober, you're going to do what you're going to do. It could have gone the other way, but he decided he needed to take care of business so he's down there taking care of himself." Weiland entered a rehab facility immediately following VR's L.A. show at the Wiltern Theatre on Feb. 8.

http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2008/02/scott-weiland-d.html



Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: jarmo on February 12, 2008, 07:06:18 PM
Well it looks like STP is going ahead anyway...

STONE TEMPLE PILOTS To Headline ROCK ON THE RANGE Festival - Feb. 11, 2008

http://www.stpontour.com/





/jarmo


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: guns_n_motley on February 12, 2008, 08:10:01 PM
well, im not sure why it got deleted...but apparantly DUFF is resurecting Loaded

LOADED, the band formed by current VELVET REVOLVER bassist Duff McKagan (on guitar and vocals) after he left GUNS N' ROSES, is currently working on a new, yet-to-be-titled studio album, to be released in the summer, with tours to follow.

LOADED was formed in 1999 and has morphed several times, releasing two albums: 1999's "Live Episode" and 2001's "Dark Days". The group's current lineup includes drummer Geoff Reading (NEW AMERICAN SHAME, GREEN APPLE QUICKSTEP), bassist Jeff Rouse and guitarist Mike Squires (both formerly of ALIEN CRIME SYNDICATE).

VELVET REVOLVER guitarist Slash recently told Billboard.com that he is ready to make the group's third record sooner rather than later, hoping to avoid the two-and-a-half year gap between the band's 2004 debut, "Contraband", and last year's sophomore effort, "Libertad". The band is touring until April, and the guitarist said that they're likely to hit the studio right after that. "I'm really jazzed about doing it," he said. "I've, you know, been working on new ideas, and had a couple times where the guys all got together and worked on some stuff. I'm itching to see what this third record's gonna be, 'cause I think it's gonna be awesome, and I think that we don't need to necessarily spend two years on the road like we did last time."

Slash said that the group did not have any songs in finished form, but only basic ideas and arrangements.

VELVET REVOLVER's exact recording plans for its third effort could be affected by singer Scott Weiland's recent announcement that a reunion of his previous group, STONE TEMPLE PILOTS, was on tap for later this year.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on February 12, 2008, 09:36:28 PM
I think even MTV is getting confused... :D


Feb 12 2008 8:56 PM EST

On Monday, STP announced that they were scrapping their upcoming concerts in Australia in light of frontman Scott Weiland's return to rehab. ...

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1581390/20080212/juvenile.jhtml



Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: lynn1961 on February 13, 2008, 12:39:16 AM
 :rofl: :rofl:  That's pretty bad.  MTV sucks, anyway. 

I'm still confused about the Loaded thing.  Some people are talking like Duff has something to do with it.  I'm not so sure he does, right now.  Loaded still exists and probably are releasing a record & doing a tour, but that doesn't mean it has anything to do with Duff, anymore.  Anyone know anything different? 


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: LunsJail on February 13, 2008, 10:48:12 AM
I believe there was another thread about Loaded at some point.  The conclusion was that they were touring this year but Duff was no longer involved.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on February 15, 2008, 12:58:01 PM
More STP dates...

STONE TEMPLE PILOTS, POISON, TESLA and BOSTON are among the confirmed bands for the Rock Fest 2008, set to take place July 17-20 in Cadott, Wisconsin.

Blabbermouth.net


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Smoking Guns on February 15, 2008, 02:35:05 PM
More STP dates...

STONE TEMPLE PILOTS, POISON, TESLA and BOSTON are among the confirmed bands for the Rock Fest 2008, set to take place July 17-20 in Cadott, Wisconsin.

Blabbermouth.net

I would love to see tesla and boston and poison are worth seeing.  Not a "bad" band on that bill at all!


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Layne Staley's Sunglasses on February 15, 2008, 03:26:27 PM
Boston!  Yeah!

(It's been almost a year since Delps' suicide, RIP.)


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Fingers on February 15, 2008, 03:37:46 PM
For what it's worth, Duff posted the other day on the VR fan site and said VR is still his main priority, and Loaded would not interfere-he said he simply likes to multi task


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on February 15, 2008, 04:45:41 PM
From Classic Rock Magazine...

Monday February 11, 2008

And as 'Borgs' said in his comment on Friday, the big rumour doing the rounds at the moment is that VR singer Scott Weiland has been fired.

If this is true - unless Slash, Duff McKagan, Matt Sorum and that other bloke have a ready-made replacement waiting in the wings - it will mean the band's UK tour won't go ahead as planned on March 15.

Velvet Revolver are also scheduled to make a prestigious appearance at the Dubai Desert Rock Festival on March 8.

http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/page/classicrock?entry=velvet_revolver_cancel_oz_dates


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on February 16, 2008, 01:37:45 PM
More STP dates...

STONE TEMPLE PILOTS, POISON, TESLA and BOSTON are among the confirmed bands for the Rock Fest 2008, set to take place July 17-20 in Cadott, Wisconsin.

Blabbermouth.net

Update from Blabbermouth:

{Note: STONE TEMPLE PILOTS's name has now been removed from the official Rock Fest web site.) ???


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: faldor on February 16, 2008, 05:09:35 PM
More STP dates...

STONE TEMPLE PILOTS, POISON, TESLA and BOSTON are among the confirmed bands for the Rock Fest 2008, set to take place July 17-20 in Cadott, Wisconsin.

Blabbermouth.net

Update from Blabbermouth:

{Note: STONE TEMPLE PILOTS's name has now been removed from the official Rock Fest web site.) ???
Really, and the plot thickens.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Verse Chorus Verse on February 16, 2008, 06:35:24 PM
It's still there.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on February 16, 2008, 06:55:14 PM
It's still there.

Where?  http://www.rock-fest.com/

 Blockbuster Rock Fest Lineup!

GETTING EXCITED FOR ROCK FEST 2008?

Click here for your VIP tickets and camping for 2008!

Boston
The Wallflowers with Jakob Dylan
Jackyl
Three Days Grace
Poison
Ligion
Tesla
Live
Switchfoot
Plain White T's
Vic Ferrari
These artists are in no particular order.
A schedule of concert days and times will be assembled soon.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: russkwtx on February 20, 2008, 01:52:11 PM
Is that the same Boston from the 1970s?


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: LunsJail on February 20, 2008, 03:18:43 PM
Is that the same Boston from the 1970s?

I would have to think it is.  I didn't really know they were still active.

Also, anyone think STP isn't listed because promoters are scared of advertising them with Weiland's current situation being what it is. 


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Verse Chorus Verse on February 20, 2008, 03:34:59 PM
It's still there.

Where?  http://www.rock-fest.com/

 Blockbuster Rock Fest Lineup!

GETTING EXCITED FOR ROCK FEST 2008?

Click here for your VIP tickets and camping for 2008!

Boston
The Wallflowers with Jakob Dylan
Jackyl
Three Days Grace
Poison
Ligion
Tesla
Live
Switchfoot
Plain White T's
Vic Ferrari
These artists are in no particular order.
A schedule of concert days and times will be assembled soon.

It was there for me...maybe I have to clear my cache or something?


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on February 26, 2008, 11:20:15 AM
STONE TEMPLE PILOTS, LINKIN PARK Confirmed For Toronto's EDGEFEST - Feb. 26, 2008

Jonathan Cohen of Billboard.com reports that STONE TEMPLE PILOTS and LINKIN PARK will head the bill for the 2008 Edgefest in Toronto, which is returning after a one-year hiatus. The event will be held July 12 at Downsview Park.

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003715346


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: jarmo on February 26, 2008, 11:43:23 AM
So the first STP show is in May and now the latest announced one is in July.

Is it only Slash who expects them only to do "a handful of summer reunion shows"?



/jarmo


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: JimBobTTD on February 26, 2008, 12:40:00 PM
So the first STP show is in May and now the latest announced one is in July.

Is it only Slash who expects them only to do "a handful of summer reunion shows"?



/jarmo

How many have been announced so far? Two? May to July is summertime...add a few more and you have a handful of summer reunion shows.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: jarmo on February 26, 2008, 01:11:51 PM
So the first STP show is in May and now the latest announced one is in July.

Is it only Slash who expects them only to do "a handful of summer reunion shows"?



/jarmo

How many have been announced so far? Two? May to July is summertime...add a few more and you have a handful of summer reunion shows.


You think they'll only play like five shows in two months time?

Five dates sounds more like a week or a week and a half of touring.


But then again, I never understood STP to begin with.....  :hihi:





/jarmo


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on February 27, 2008, 04:42:37 PM
^^ ;)

STONE TEMPLE PILOTS Schedule More Dates - Feb. 27, 2008

The reunited STONE TEMPLE PILOTS have scheduled the following dates:

May 17 - Columbus, OH Crew Stadium (Rock on the Range)
May 18 - Camden, NJ - Susquehanna Bank Center (WMMR Event)
May 23 - Indianapolis, IN - Indianapolis Motor Speedway
May 31 - Holmdel, NJ - PNC Garden State Amphitheatre (WXRK Event)
Jun. 01 - Mansfield, MA - Tweeter Center (WBCN Event)
Jun. 07 - Kansas City, MO - [to be announced] (KQRC Event)
Jul. 12 - Toronto, ON - Downsview Park (Edgefest)

More shows will be announced soon.

Blabbermouth.net


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Falcon on February 27, 2008, 07:10:25 PM
Looks as though they're  hitting the radio show circuit this summer, that usually runs for around 20 dates or so.

I'd bet they'd be booking their own gigs in between those events as well...


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: slash1213 on February 27, 2008, 08:17:34 PM
wow , the concert in Indianapolis is at the speedway?? First time I see that.. they can probably fit more than 100 thousand people there.. however, I doubt there's that many STP fans over there


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: TK1 on February 27, 2008, 09:44:41 PM
I live in Indy and they always have bands come play at IMS during the weeks of the Indy 500.  I believe typically they set the bands up in the infield and it usually draws a pretty good crowd.   Plus, that is Carb Day, which is a great day to be at the track, so that should be a hell of day to be at the track!!


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: gnr2k6 on February 28, 2008, 07:05:10 AM
theyv got dates in hollywood such as house of blues booked already


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: JDA on February 28, 2008, 11:27:01 AM
So the first STP show is in May and now the latest announced one is in July.

Is it only Slash who expects them only to do "a handful of summer reunion shows"?



/jarmo

How many have been announced so far? Two? May to July is summertime...add a few more and you have a handful of summer reunion shows.


You think they'll only play like five shows in two months time?

Five dates sounds more like a week or a week and a half of touring.


But then again, I never understood STP to begin with.....  :hihi:





/jarmo


We know you don't like STP Jarmo or Scott.  Thanks.  We will see you on the GN'R message board.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: jarmo on February 28, 2008, 11:35:30 AM
Yeah, and look it's more than a handful of shows! Imagine that!

I don't have to like STP to figure out that doing five shows within a two month period seems weird.

 ::)



By the way, this isn't an STP section or definitely not an STP site!

You are on a GN'R site! Don't ever forget that.



/jarmo


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: lakersaregreat on February 28, 2008, 04:46:36 PM
Yeah, and look it's more than a handful of shows! Imagine that!

I don't have to like STP to figure out that doing five shows within a two month period seems weird.

 ::)



By the way, this isn't an STP section or definitely not an STP site!

You are on a GN'R site! Don't ever forget that.



/jarmo

of course its your gnr site, but i think you also added other sections for the discussion of other bands.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: JDA on February 29, 2008, 03:22:56 PM
Yeah, and look it's more than a handful of shows! Imagine that!

I don't have to like STP to figure out that doing five shows within a two month period seems weird.

 ::)



By the way, this isn't an STP section or definitely not an STP site!

You are on a GN'R site! Don't ever forget that.



/jarmo



Yes, sir!   I will try to stick the the rules, sir!  Thank you for laying down the law, sir!  I'm sorry for saying anything good about STP, in the STP section, that you started, on your site, sir!


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on March 03, 2008, 09:10:55 PM
A couple more from Scott's no show at Sundance...

Duff McKagen 'It's So Easy'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKxnPqxU1Ss&NR=1

Paris Hilton & Matt Sorum

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhIqrh6OiRE&feature=related


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: slash1213 on March 03, 2008, 10:03:55 PM
yes, this is a newGNR site, remember that


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on March 16, 2008, 04:14:46 PM
After seeing the new website I have to think that yes, this is more than a "handful of shows"...

Check Out the New STP Photo!
March 15 2008

Join the New Stone Temple Pilots Fan Club!
March 14 2008

New StoneTemplePilots.com!
March 14 2008

Stone Temple Pilots Summer Tour 2008 : Leg 1

http://www.stonetemplepilots.com/


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: CheapJon on March 16, 2008, 04:47:20 PM
After seeing the new website I have to think that yes, this is more than a "handful of shows"...

Check Out the New STP Photo!
March 15 2008

Join the New Stone Temple Pilots Fan Club!
March 14 2008

New StoneTemplePilots.com!
March 14 2008

Stone Temple Pilots Summer Tour 2008 : Leg 1

http://www.stonetemplepilots.com/
Wonder if there's something scott aint telling the VR members :P


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Jim Bob on March 16, 2008, 04:59:49 PM
STP is a better band than VR.. i'm glad they are getting back together.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: GnR-NOW on March 16, 2008, 05:13:03 PM
If STP goes on tour starting in May, and Slash said that VR will begin writing the new album in April, I take it Scott isn't going to have a big role in that?


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Feel_The_Burn on March 16, 2008, 08:33:12 PM
If STP goes on tour starting in May, and Slash said that VR will begin writing the new album in April, I take it Scott isn't going to have a big role in that?

Well maybe Slash and Co will write the music first and have scott write lyrics later. Which could possibly be really good!? But I doubt that VR will have a future.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: SpiritDave on March 16, 2008, 10:48:28 PM
STP is a better band than VR.. i'm glad they are getting back together.

I disagree.  VR are better in my opinion, but STP did have a couple of good songs.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Jim Bob on March 17, 2008, 05:35:42 AM
STP is a better band than VR.. i'm glad they are getting back together.

I disagree.  VR are better in my opinion, but STP did have a couple of good songs.

let me make this very clear that I actually do not agree with this position.  I renounce it and I outright denounce it.    STP simply has better songs.. VR has one killer song.  STP has like 10.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: MeanBone on March 17, 2008, 12:10:28 PM
i'm with Obama on this one.



Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Falcon on March 17, 2008, 12:36:52 PM
i'm with Obama on this one.



It's all subjective - so lets leave the "who's better" childishness alone.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on March 17, 2008, 03:20:17 PM
STP had a new photo up on their website...but now it has been pulled? ???

It was here...but now it's gone.

Check Out the New STP Photo!
March 15 2008
http://www.stonetemplepilots.com/?module=news&news_item_id=7

You can view the photo:

STONE TEMPLE PILOTS Reunited: New Band Photo Posted Online - Mar. 16, 2008

A brand new photo of the reunited STONE TEMPLE PILOTS can be viewed at this location: http://media.fanfire.com/STPsteps.jpg



Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: CheapJon on March 17, 2008, 03:56:50 PM
In my humble opinion those kind of posts^ should be in the STP thread in bad obsession



Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: jarmo on March 17, 2008, 04:00:45 PM
In my humble opinion those kind of posts^ should be in the STP thread in bad obsession


That's where they'll be posted from now on.

This isn't an STP section after all.

Anything relating to STP or Weiland that has nothing to do with VR should be posted elsewhere.





/jarmo


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on March 17, 2008, 04:05:47 PM
In my humble opinion those kind of posts^ should be in the STP thread in bad obsession



Well I guess if something is up with STP it does relate to VR?  But it is a fine line.  I'll watch myself. :hihi:


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Smoking Guns on March 17, 2008, 04:59:26 PM
In my humble opinion those kind of posts^ should be in the STP thread in bad obsession


That's where they'll be posted from now on.

This isn't an STP section after all.

Anything relating to STP or Weiland that has nothing to do with VR should be posted elsewhere.





/jarmo

Jarmo, Happy birthday, I know there was a thread in Admin area, but I wanted to say it here.  You have been in a good mood lately.  Borat voice "Very Nice..."  Ha.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: r3dhawk6 on March 20, 2008, 12:20:51 AM
I love VR - they are rock royalty imho.  There's not another band out there right now with the talent and personality this group has.  Living legends.  So obviously all this trouble talk is worrisome and I hope they make it.  Scott's STP crap was really pissing me off, but may as well let him get it out of his system.  And if it becomes a permanent departure I hope the rest of the guys find a way to keep on keepin on.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: cotis on March 20, 2008, 10:35:24 PM
Friend just told me that Scott told the crowd at tonight's show that this tour will be the 'last ever Velvet Revolver tour'.

Hmm? ??? ???


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on March 20, 2008, 10:39:04 PM
Friend just told me that Scott told the crowd at tonight's show that this tour will be the 'last ever Velvet Revolver tour'.

Hmm? ??? ???

I was just reading that...it was posted on the VR forum and others who were at the show are saying the same thing.

From Route66

I was right at the front of the glasgow show where Scott Weiland broke the news right before Fall to pieces!

He said and i quote "You're at something really special tonight. This is the last ever Velvet Revolver tour"

Once he said that Slash, Duff, Matt and Dave all looked at each other. They sang fall to pieces then.. Scott goes over to the side of the stage and argues with the sound guy. After a couple of songs he threw his mic down and walked off. After a long wait Duff came out with the band and sang the start of its so easy. Scott shows up about half way through.. sang really half assed then gone again...

Really doesnt look good. Especially as the band at the start of the evening were late on by half an hour and stood waiting for Scott for about 10 mins on stage. Clearly all very uncomfortably.. Looks like its true guys. Straight from Scotts mouth.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on March 20, 2008, 11:19:21 PM
Friend just told me that Scott told the crowd at tonight's show that this tour will be the 'last ever Velvet Revolver tour'.

Hmm? ??? ???

I was just reading that...it was posted on the VR forum and others who were at the show are saying the same thing.

From Route66

I was right at the front of the glasgow show where Scott Weiland broke the news right before Fall to pieces!

He said and i quote "You're at something really special tonight. This is the last ever Velvet Revolver tour"

Once he said that Slash, Duff, Matt and Dave all looked at each other. They sang fall to pieces then.. Scott goes over to the side of the stage and argues with the sound guy. After a couple of songs he threw his mic down and walked off. After a long wait Duff came out with the band and sang the start of its so easy. Scott shows up about half way through.. sang really half assed then gone again...

Really doesnt look good. Especially as the band at the start of the evening were late on by half an hour and stood waiting for Scott for about 10 mins on stage. Clearly all very uncomfortably.. Looks like its true guys. Straight from Scotts mouth.


That truly sucks. Hope it was a hissy fit from Scott - he is an unmedicated bi-polar.....


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: fuckin crazy on March 20, 2008, 11:28:18 PM
He is leaving anyway, so they should just fire his ass and make it official.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Smoking Guns on March 20, 2008, 11:33:19 PM
They did so much for him and pretty much saved his career.  Now he does this shit?  I don't get it.  If he wants to go back to STP, great, but have respect for guys you are with to finish show.  He has cost them tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars.


Title: Re: Trouble Within Velvet Revolver?
Post by: Ali on March 21, 2008, 12:10:05 AM
They did so much for him and pretty much saved his career.  Now he does this shit?  I don't get it.  If he wants to go back to STP, great, but have respect for guys you are with to finish show.  He has cost them tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Technically, dude.  He did finish the show.  Although it finished under less than optimal circumstances.

Ali

P.S.  Multiple people on the VR Forum have confirmed this was said.