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Title: Dizzy Reed appreciation thread
Post by: CherryGarcia on October 20, 2015, 04:53:35 PM
On other forums I see people hate on Dizzy and I've never understood why. I honestly have always enjoyed his additions to Guns - both on the UYIs and CD. He added a wonderful, Stonesy barroom touch to many of the songs on the UYI records and had a hand in writing most of the better songs on Chinese Democracy. Anyone else feel Dizzy is unappreciated?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed appreciation thread
Post by: D-GenerationX on October 20, 2015, 04:56:21 PM
I don't get the hate either.  For that matter, I don't get the love. 

I think Dizzy is just a bum in luck.  A guy in the right place at the right time that lucked into one sweet gig.  And I say good for him.

Artistically, I like his additions to the songs on the UYI albums.  On a personal level, he seems like a good egg.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed appreciation thread
Post by: Ginger King on October 20, 2015, 04:58:46 PM
I don't get the hate either.  For that matter, I don't get the love. 

I think Dizzy is just a bum in luck.  A guy in the right place at the right time that lucked into one sweet gig.  And I say good for him.

Artistically, I like his additions to the songs on the UYI albums.  On a personal level, he seems like a good egg.

I did a shot of Jager with him last year when Hookers and Blow rolled through my town.  He saddled right up to the bar after the show.  Had a good chat with him.  Seemed like a cool dude. 


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed appreciation thread
Post by: sky dog on October 20, 2015, 05:14:33 PM
Sweet, I did a few shots with him in Destin, Fl a while back...Hookers and Blow. My boys and I saw a flyer and were all over it. We had a good time.

I think Dizzy has solid chops and is Gnr's Ian Mclagan, Ian Stewart, or Nicky Hopkins....all great rock and roll bands need a good dude on the piano.  :)


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed appreciation thread
Post by: jarmo on October 20, 2015, 05:15:00 PM
On other forums I see people hate on Dizzy and I've never understood why.

As someone who allegedly doesn't understand a lot, I'll try to offer an explanation even though I don't agree with it.

I suspect it has to do with the idea some fans have of GN'R. It was a band of five guys. No additional piano or keyboards.
Dizzy joins and that changed. Suddenly the band isn't the same as it was before, it doesn't equal the idea these fans have in their heads.

So instead of having five guys and a touring member who plays piano on tours, Dizzy is in the band. Unlike a band like the Rolling Stones for example.

Instead of being open minded and accepting it, they choose to hold a grudge, so to speak.

Also, I think some saw him as "Axl's guy". So that's obviously a bad thing....


And yes, he's a cool AND talented guy.




/jarmo


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed appreciation thread
Post by: D-GenerationX on October 20, 2015, 05:16:02 PM

I think Dizzy has solid chops and is Gnr's Ian Mclagan, Ian Stewart, or Nicky Hopkins....all great rock and roll bands need a good dude on the piano.  :)


I'm with you.  I think its a welcome addition.

I also like horns, although used more sparingly.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed appreciation thread
Post by: rebelhipi on October 20, 2015, 05:17:14 PM
I think Dizzy is the right guy in the right band.

Perfect match.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed appreciation thread
Post by: Spirit on October 20, 2015, 05:21:20 PM

I also like horns, although used more sparingly.



Move To The City comes to mind, the horns are used in a great way.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed appreciation thread
Post by: sky dog on October 20, 2015, 05:27:23 PM
Bobby Keys from Texas on the sax! ;D


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed appreciation thread
Post by: D-GenerationX on October 20, 2015, 05:28:17 PM

Move To The City comes to mind, the horns are used in a great way.


Agreed.

That song always takes a beating in "worst song" polls, but I dig it.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed appreciation thread
Post by: D-GenerationX on October 20, 2015, 05:29:08 PM

Bobby Keys from Texas on the sax! ;D


Yeah, I love that old 70s Stones stuff.

Take a song like 'Live With Me' or 'Rocks Off'.  Great tunes.  To them, they are just album cuts.  To a lot of bands, they would be their best songs.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed appreciation thread
Post by: jarmo on October 20, 2015, 05:51:04 PM
Dizzy Reed appreciation thread is now not about Dizzy. Took about 20 minutes!
By the guy who accuses me of trying to change focus....



/jarmo


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed appreciation thread
Post by: EmilyGNR on October 20, 2015, 05:53:44 PM
Sweet, I did a few shots with him in Destin, Fl a while back...Hookers and Blow. My boys and I saw a flyer and were all over it. We had a good time.

I think Dizzy has solid chops and is Gnr's Ian Mclagan, Ian Stewart, or Nicky Hopkins....all great rock and roll bands need a good dude on the piano.  :)

Good call, I think he contributes a lot and has been a member of GNR longer than anyone except Axl.  :peace:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed appreciation thread
Post by: Virolec on October 20, 2015, 05:55:16 PM
Aye, I like him.  He adds a lot to a lot of songs, and seems a decent sort of fellow.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed appreciation thread
Post by: jarmo on October 20, 2015, 05:58:53 PM
For those who don't know, or forgot. Dizzy co-wrote the following on Chinese Democracy:

Street Of Dreams
There Was A Time
I.R.S.

According to ASCAP, he gets credits for those as well as Chinese Democracy, Catcher in The Rye and Riad N' The Bedouins.


/jarmo



Title: Re: Dizzy Reed appreciation thread
Post by: Nytunz on October 20, 2015, 06:06:23 PM
For those who don't know, or forgot. Dizzy co-wrote the following on Chinese Democracy:

Street Of Dreams
There Was A Time
I.R.S.

According to ASCAP, he gets credits for those as well as Chinese Democracy, Catcher in The Rye and Riad N' The Bedouins.


/jarmo



Rock n Roll piano! Dizzy really knows how to do it!

Didnt he and Pitman put together Silkworms also?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed appreciation thread
Post by: jarmo on October 20, 2015, 06:12:16 PM
Didnt he and Pitman put together Silkworms also?

Yeah, that's how Axl introduced it.




/jarmo



Title: Re: Dizzy Reed appreciation thread
Post by: sky dog on October 20, 2015, 07:32:30 PM
Jarmo, if Dizzy can hang with the piano players for the Stones, The Who, and The Faces, that would be a compliment. Sax comment does fit in to Move To The City which I would have rather seen on AFD than Anything Goes. Plus, any guy cool enough to tackle Layla is always good with me.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed appreciation thread
Post by: sky dog on October 20, 2015, 07:33:43 PM
 :peace:

forgot No Quarter!


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed appreciation thread
Post by: Ginger King on October 20, 2015, 09:06:31 PM
Jarmo, have you ever seen Dizzy and Axl in a "piano battle"?  Would be really cool to see footage of the two of them dueling each other.  I got to think it's happened once or twice.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed appreciation thread
Post by: D-GenerationX on October 20, 2015, 09:42:58 PM
A song like 'Pretty Tied Up'?  I love the keyboards on that one.

Can really hear it in the intro from Rock In Rio II where its the show opener. 


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed appreciation thread
Post by: CherryGarcia on October 21, 2015, 01:37:30 AM
Dizzy also co-wrote (musically) Oh My God with Paul.

People bitch about "GN'R shouldn't have piano" but piano in GN'R predates Dizzy. First GN'R song to have piano was One in a Million, keys played by a Mr. Howard Tenman (who also does percussion work on that album, covered for Steven live in 1988 when Steven's hand was shattered, and plays piano on "So Fine")


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed appreciation thread
Post by: EmilyGNR on October 21, 2015, 02:43:43 AM
Dizzy also co-wrote (musically) Oh My God with Paul.

People bitch about "GN'R shouldn't have piano" but piano in GN'R predates Dizzy. First GN'R song to have piano was One in a Million, keys played by a Mr. Howard Tenman (who also does percussion work on that album, covered for Steven live in 1988 when Steven's hand was shattered, and plays piano on "So Fine")

Haha are you trying to reference Howard TEMAN??  :hihi:
Any card carrying GNR fan is aware of who Mr. H. Teman of Tman tats is.

Here he is playing on a suprise gig to benefit Reuben of Rock City News 1/10/88
https://youtu.be/hkmiXmM4I1s


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed appreciation thread
Post by: jarmo on October 21, 2015, 06:37:39 AM
Jarmo, have you ever seen Dizzy and Axl in a "piano battle"?  Would be really cool to see footage of the two of them dueling each other.  I got to think it's happened once or twice.

Not that I remember.

Dueling pianos?  ;)


/jarmo


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed appreciation thread
Post by: gnredwing on October 21, 2015, 12:48:57 PM
I think Dizzy brings nothing special to the band. Watching him bang the bongo drums during 90% of the live performance is a waste. If Dizzy left GnR I think it would be totally irrelevant. It seems like now Dizzy is just a kiss ass to Axl and will defend him no matter what.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed appreciation thread
Post by: jarmo on October 21, 2015, 01:11:27 PM
On other forums I see people hate on Dizzy and I've never understood why.

As someone who allegedly doesn't understand a lot, I'll try to offer an explanation even though I don't agree with it.

I suspect it has to do with the idea some fans have of GN'R. It was a band of five guys. No additional piano or keyboards.
Dizzy joins and that changed. Suddenly the band isn't the same as it was before, it doesn't equal the idea these fans have in their heads.

So instead of having five guys and a touring member who plays piano on tours, Dizzy is in the band. Unlike a band like the Rolling Stones for example.

Instead of being open minded and accepting it, they choose to hold a grudge, so to speak.

Also, I think some saw him as "Axl's guy". So that's obviously a bad thing....


And yes, he's a cool AND talented guy.

Like I said.... And then this:

I think Dizzy brings nothing special to the band. Watching him bang the bongo drums during 90% of the live performance is a waste. If Dizzy left GnR I think it would be totally irrelevant. It seems like now Dizzy is just a kiss ass to Axl and will defend him no matter what.




/jarmo


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed appreciation thread
Post by: Jim Bob on October 21, 2015, 02:13:50 PM
I think Dizzy brings nothing special to the band. Watching him bang the bongo drums during 90% of the live performance is a waste. If Dizzy left GnR I think it would be totally irrelevant. It seems like now Dizzy is just a kiss ass to Axl and will defend him no matter what.

Lots of the best GnR songs have keyboard or piano parts.   Street of Dreams, Estranged, Civil War, Madagascar, etc.   The list goes on.

So if you don't think Dizzy brings anything to the band, who do you think should play those parts?


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed appreciation thread
Post by: OscarAxl22 on October 21, 2015, 06:02:08 PM
I have no issue with Dizzys contribution to the music or the band. Hes been there a very long time and in my mind i treat him in the same vein as the classic band tbh.

I kinda think its cool Axl has someone that is so loyal to him through everything too, the dude seems like a pretty good guy from what ive read and watched so i dont really have an issue what so ever with him.

Far bigger issues in GNR then Dizzys worth IMO.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed appreciation thread
Post by: EmilyGNR on October 21, 2015, 06:09:22 PM
Jarmo, have you ever seen Dizzy and Axl in a "piano battle"?  Would be really cool to see footage of the two of them dueling each other.  I got to think it's happened once or twice.

Not that I remember.

Dueling pianos?  ;)


/jarmo


Wasn't dueling Banjos the theme music for Deliverance?   :nervous:

Not sure I want to see GNR do dueling pianos.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed appreciation thread
Post by: jarmo on October 21, 2015, 06:21:33 PM
Yes it was. Exactly my point. ;)



/jarmo


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed appreciation thread
Post by: Ginger King on October 21, 2015, 09:21:19 PM
Jarmo, have you ever seen Dizzy and Axl in a "piano battle"?  Would be really cool to see footage of the two of them dueling each other.  I got to think it's happened once or twice.

Not that I remember.

Dueling pianos?  ;)


/jarmo


Wasn't dueling Banjos the theme music for Deliverance?   :nervous:

Not sure I want to see GNR do dueling pianos.

Umm....I was actually going for dueling pianos, as in a dueling piano bar.  Wasn't really going the Deliverance route.  :no:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dueling_pianos

I just got to think that, at some rehearsal along the way, Dizzy and Axl were goofing around and went toe to toe on the piano.  Maybe it's part of the UYI tour tapes, maybe more recently.  Shit, they've been together 20+ years.  It's had to have happened.  It would be cool to see. 


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed appreciation thread
Post by: HBK on October 21, 2015, 10:21:40 PM
DIZZY vs AXL

 :beer:


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed appreciation thread
Post by: Annie on October 21, 2015, 10:28:43 PM
I met Dizzy at one of the meet and greets in Las Vegas. He was very nice. And he liked and noticed my Hello Axl tattoo. He is great musician as well.


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed appreciation thread
Post by: 19AT5 on October 22, 2015, 04:55:23 AM
Dizzy comes across as a really nice guy and added some nice touches to the Illusion records as well as Chinese. Plus he's obviously been a good friend to Axl as well, which is cool. But let's be honest here (and this isn't a criticism of Dizzy as such), he was nothing more than a glorified sideman during the Illusion-era. I think he maybe played on half the songs on the record and during concerts spent most of his time banging on bongos that nobody could really hear! That said I like the percussion during the breakdown on Rocket Queen - it sounds cool. But could you really class him as a fully fledged member during this period?! I know he technically was, but you get my point (hopefully)... 


Title: Re: Dizzy Reed appreciation thread
Post by: jarmo on October 22, 2015, 07:18:27 AM
Umm....I was actually going for dueling pianos, as in a dueling piano bar.  Wasn't really going the Deliverance route.  :no:

It was just a lighthearted joke.  :)




/jarmo