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Festival is March 14 and 15, I think GnR will play the first day,

https://www.vivelatino.com.mx/ (https://www.vivelatino.com.mx/)  :peace:

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https://www.ticketmaster.com.mx/vive-latino-tickets/artist/1209767 (https://www.ticketmaster.com.mx/vive-latino-tickets/artist/1209767)

Eclectic line up. Kinda like Coachella, ACL....




/jarmo

I like the idea of GNR doing shows like these and the one they did in New Orleans. Reach a new and different demographic. Whether it goes over well with the crowd or not is another topic of discussion but I like that they are trying different Music genre type shows.

Vive Latino is defined as the most important festival in Ibero America, with the participation of groups from the spanish rock scene, both in Mexico and Latin America. Although the festival's offer focuses on the presentation of Latin American musicians, the participation of invited groups and soloists from other international regions was gradually incorporated; which has already become one of the characteristics of its lineup, just like this twenty-first edition.

Cool.

Thanks for the background.  :)




/jarmo

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According to the TV show "HOY", the festival will take place with the participation of Gn'R. Only She Wants Revenge announced that they will not travel to Mexico to perform at the festival.

Er, you could get quarantined to the airplane like they do to cruise ships Richard.  I'd opted for the tour bus.  :hihi:

Most of the SA shows have been cancelled by the governments. 

Show is still on? Didnt Livenation pull the plug?

The thing about this one is that it's a festival. I don't think Live Nation is involved.

Jarmo, do you know if the Latin America part of this tour has been canceled? :-[

I have no new info about the tour dates after Mexico. All I know is what's been published. That Costa Rica is canceled along with Lollapalooza Chile and Argentina....




/jarmo

So... if this one's happening, how long till showtime?

EDIT: it's tomorrow?

I just have to say that im baffled about all of this. Everything getting cancelled. No knowledge of what tomorrow brings.

Im 24 and ive never seen anything like this.
My Dad is 68 and he has never seen anything like this.

I can only imagine that this is comparable to a beginning of a wartime without the fear of violence.

I really hope that the show will go on and bring some joy to the world.

Strange to think that we dont know when and where will a event like this will happen next.

Edit:
I didnt write this because of panic.
I wrote it because these are quite unique times, and these are my feelings atm.

I just hope if it goes on as scheduled nobody else contacts this.

Crazy times, hopefully the concert goes well.

Guns N' Roses @gunsnroses
The countdown 🤘

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Hardschool (among Tied Up, So Fine, Think about you) was played at the Soundcheck.

Axl was there. There is vid clip of Hardschool online.

Its happening 8) 8)

Axl sound checking new songs, this increases the chances of them playing them at the show I think.

Woohoo, show day.  :D  What time are they on?

Hopefully we get streams.  Hopefully we remember how to find those.  :hihi:

That soundcheck sounds promising, the band knows this is the only show for a while and if they soundchecked all those songs they sure plan to play it right?  :beer:

I would imagin the band is pumped and bummed at the same time.  They were all set to go and the rug is being pulled out from under them.  Tonight is probably going to be something special.  They have a lot to play out.

The last concert in the world and GNR is headlining.  :D

It's surreal to be here with all the things going on in the world.

Show tonight, then we go home tomorrow.




/jarmo

May the four winds blow you safely home

with that smile that only comes from seeing GNR live.  :D

Vive Latino Official page is broadcasting live:

https://www.vivelatino.com.mx/ (https://www.vivelatino.com.mx/)

His official FB also has 2 broadcasts, if GnR allows him to broadcast part of his show, locates the broadcast of "Señal Indio",

https://www.facebook.com/festivalvivelatino/ (https://www.facebook.com/festivalvivelatino/)

 :beer:

GnR is scheduled at 10:25 pm, Mexico City time (UTC-06: 00),

The stream is unavailable in the usa

Use Hola VPN chrome extension.

Hola Free VPN Proxy - #1 VPN for Chrome is that it?  If so that was easy, thank you.

Yep that's it. Don't keep it after the show though. It does questionable things.

Is it the whole show or just some of it?

For all the Deadheads out there.  https://www.facebook.com/GarciasAtTheCap/videos/199908177948423/

Perhaps the transmission depends on the authorization of the band, in another edition of the festival, Deftones did not allow even part of his show.

This could be the last time for some folks

"pop in the clutch and let the wheels roll free"

The Cardigans played SCOM intro to Erase/Rewind  :)

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/p720x720/90199395_2776454275763962_3182456816558669824_o.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=HGRukH9eAmQAX-gEhzQ&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-1.xx&_nc_tp=6&oh=9c9d214f7a9149f351ef3ca471e368c8&oe=5E944EA9)

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Not sure who that band was but the lead singer performed in his underwear.  :-[

mmm official broadcasting finished  :(

https://www.facebook.com/cesar.nava.986227/videos/702373477170125/

https://www.facebook.com/100009860921382/videos/1119846825020671/

https://www.facebook.com/EdgarCloche/videos/2925125157540658/

https://www.facebook.com/pedro.galicianaranjo/videos/1271709503038406/

https://www.facebook.com/beatriz.segundo.5/videos/3272145809466285/
https://www.facebook.com/100027485820525/videos/515119649414225/
https://www.facebook.com/caro.lina.9210/videos/2741664012536980/
https://www.facebook.com/beatriz.segundo.5/videos/3272208316126701/

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https://www.facebook.com/ElMelomanoMX/videos/822231768252187/

https://www.facebook.com/ElMelomanoMX/videos/831804013966284/

Thanks for the links Gypsy. Hope this isn't the last show for quite some time!

The band is on fire! Not sure how late I'll stay up but they are doing great!

https://www.facebook.com/v.MiYu/videos/10163136719415574/

https://www.facebook.com/ElMelomanoMX/videos/831804013966284/

So Fine !!!!

So fine without Axl

OK but why isn't Axl singing too? This is a co lead vocal song. Very odd.

It replaced Attitude which is Duffs "solo" spot.

Ah ok, i missed most of it. It froze up on me. I'd still like to hear it with both of them.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v=831804013966284&external_log_id=43d6fec8a183eeadf52d3b05e1d63508

They're featured on the facebook main page.

Setlist?

Seriously, that's an official broadcast.  Who allowed that?

Basically the same as the last show they played. Just substitute Attitude with So Fine.

No it's not an official broadcast.  It's the same El Melomano one we've been watching.  The video code number matches the one you posted.

https://www.facebook.com/ElMelomanoMX/videos/831804013966284/

I watch facebook live all the time and you don't get the main box unless your somebody.  They've got the main box.

Maybe that was the way they did it before but now facebook matches up that main page to links to whatever subject you typed in their search box.  Like if you typed guns n' roses live mexico city.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v=831804013966284&external_log_id=43d6fec8a183eeadf52d3b05e1d63508

https://www.facebook.com/ElMelomanoMX/videos/831804013966284/

Same n' Same.

I had to reboot and was coming in clean but it's not there now.  But my machine is doing funky stuff so maybe they weren't featured.  Oh we'll nobody getting sued.

https://www.facebook.com/TransmisorMx/videos/201788750921622/

https://www.facebook.com/ElMelomanoMX/videos/204114757566363/

Axl sounded great but dear god are they trolling the fans.

Great show, one of the best in years but clearly the NITL tour rolls on.

And that's a wrap i guess. Next show hopefully May 20th.

Fine show but....

....but....it will even get better !  :peace:

On the other side ... would you really expect it would be a smart move to premiere some of the new songs in these current times? Do you think press would care? And people? How much attention could it have possibly brought these days compared to normal situation? And also do you think they could have a chance to build up on it and create even some kind of hype since their next show is on may the soonest and even that one is not really happening for sure?

I think it is a smart move not to make any radical changes in the setlist.

Again, Europe and North America were maketed as «the next chapter», not this Latin America leg.

Glad you guys were able too do the show anyway. Stay save and get home!!

You are not the first to go down this road.

But to be clear, the theory's premise is this.  The plan the whole time was to do a handful of shows that were NITL 4.0.  And then, mid-tour, introduce a entirely new stage show.

That's where we are on that.

Under the current circumstances, the only people who would pay attention to any change in the setlist/new song are the hardcore fans who frequent the forums. So I think it's better that the setlist remained as it is.

You can say mid-tour, but there’s a substantial break between the last SA show and the first Euro show. As I’ve also mentioned before, it was quite telling that they included smaller markets on this Latin American leg, which hadn’t had any NITL shows before.

It has featured on some of the promotional material I believe .  .

I don’t think so.

Only thing I can remember was a tweet from GN’R lumping all 2020 shows together while mentioning «the next chapter».

I haven’t seen any promo videos or posters for SA mentioning this.

On the flipside of that, playing one new song for those hardcore fans would go a long way.  

Well at least for one day people were able to enjoy music. It must have been nice to be at the concert.  All other dates are canceled until May 20?  Hopefully everyone is safe during this uncertain times.

We all could use a distraction right now. Glad the concert took place.

We all need to remember not to let the media get us into a panic. Its serious but people need to stop hoarding toilet paper.

I think it was an Instagram post I saw that said something along the lines of 'the next chapter is coming....south America, Europe, US'.

Could be wrong.

Yes, that’s the one. Other than that, I haven’t seen any other promos.

Sounded like a killer show from what I saw.

For all those complaining about the set list or stating now is not the time to present a new song (it’s never the right time apparently), I would ask you to consider GNR is a legacy band at this point. A killer one and my favorite band still. There may be stuff in the vault but nothing is going to happen with respect to a new album beyond fan speculation and wishful thinking and/or taking a quote from a various bandmember out of context.

GNR could do so many things ala Rolling Stones, Page/Plant, The Who, AC/DC, etc with new projects or expanded and remastered reissues but do not for whatever reason. The exception of course is the Appetite box set.

Enjoy the awesome concerts. I know I will. We still can witness an incredible band and musicians that are exceptional.

It's unfortunate that things didn't go as planned. This was supposed to be the start of a Latin American tour. But instead it was a one off.

Anyone complaining about the setlist can relax. The different songs not played last night were meant to be played on this leg. But, due to the circumstances of this turning into a one off, I guess things changed.

Stay safe!




/jarmo

Yeah. Well we got the first So Fine since 1993 which is a win.

Hoping to see them this summer if the tour will happen.

Exited about the possibility for them to play a new song. And older rare gems.

It's going to be a different world then when they left.  Good luck to Jarmo getting home.  Bet they all get told to quarantine themselves for 14 days when they do get back.

Oh fuck, the US airports are a nightmare.

Safety flight back home Jarmo. I hope that you are able to get home  : ok:

Jarmo, how was the concert, any pictures?  Safe home!

Dead Horse sounded fuckin' awesome! Axl nailed the bridge.

Are there any recordings of Hardschool?

That show looked great but I’ve a feeling this tour will have to be cancelled due to the global pandemic of leaked Corona virus into the world. Time to get that album together and out!!!

It wasn't played. There's a 14 second or so clip of sound from the rehearsal though - no visuals.

Any setlist please?

GnR should try something different.

They should be the first band to ever pull off a global, virtual, live music tour. ;)

I mean, we're all stuck at home, right?  I'd buy a virtual ticket to watch a show....I bet a LOT of other folks would, too.

:P

That's what I meant. Where can I find the rehearsal clip?

I searched 'hardschool' on twitter and found it. If you can't you're really not missing much!

You could have a platform like those used by the major sports streaming and mobile apps. Allow users to either watch the produced stream or for example follow the camera focused on Slash.

It would be amazing to even see them do something in their rehersal space.

They've got to do something.  Slash is going to be like a caged animal if he can't tour.  :hihi:

Radiohead-In Rainbows: From The Basement....

Guns N' Roses-Stay Of Execution: Quarantined in Malibu....

 : ok:

March 14th, 2020 - Mexico City, Mexico @ Foro Sol (Vive Latino 2020)
Setlist: It’s So Easy, Mr. Brownstone, Chinese Democracy, Welcome To The Jungle, Slither, Double Talkin’ Jive, Better, Estranged, Live And Let Die, You’re Crazy (slow version), Rocket Queen, You Could Be Mine, So Fine, Civil War, Dead Horse, Band Intros, Slash Solo/Sweet Child O' Mine, November Rain, Knockin' On Heaven's Door, Nightrain

Encore: Jam/Don’t Cry, Jam/Patience, Paradise Cit




/jarmo

Outside of Slither, that is a solid Guns N' Roses setlist. I like it.  :peace:

In other words, outside of Slither, all the other songs played were tracks on a Guns N' Roses album. To go further, I would be down for an all Gnr originals show and could live without LALD and KOHD as well.

Yeah, I do agree with you. I'm glad most of the covers are gone. But I'm ok with KOHD and LALD. Those almost are ''GN'R songs'' by now.

I wonder if the European dates will also get cancelled?

I’d say the probability is more than 50%.

Nice. Thank you. Speaking of the European dates, I would say it's more like 90% to be re-scheduled, especially when Euro 2020 was postponed for 1 year. Shame, but according to the circumstances it will be the best decision in my opinion. I hope they'll do a streaming show, similar to the one Dropkick Murphy's did last night for St. Patrick's Day. It will be amazing. Drop a single after all this madness ends, continue the tour and drop an album date. Perfect scenario. 

We had a couple local acts do stream shows last night, too..and I finished up with the 2nd half of Dropkicks show.  Honestly, it was awesome. It really made our day in the house.  Things like this help make the whole situation just a little bit better, just a little bit more bearable.  I hope more artists do stuff like this.  It really is a good idea and I think we all need a bit of lightening up/brightening up in our days right now.

TBH, if I were Youtube....I'd be working on getting artists to do exactly this:  Putting together a sort of virtual concert series/tour.

Same here. I'm from Bulgaria, we stay home same as most of the world and there were a couple of local acts (pop mostly which I'm not interested) doing a song or two online. It's a great idea indeed. Dropkick were fantastic and really gave positive vibes during the boredom. Looking on the bright side, at least the beer is still available in the stores. ;D Cheers and stay safe everybody.

I agree that the probability is high that the dates will be cancelled. But when we compare with the Euro 2020, we have to factor in that each nation's leagues are getting postponed at the moment, and a postponed league would therefore have eaten into the time of the Euro 2020. That's one major factor that made it easier at this time, to postpone the Euro's until next year.

Unless things improve a lot by the end of April, the Euro tour will be cancelled or re-scheduled. Hopefully they will just re-schedule.

Might be best anyway for safety reasons as this virus is going to be around for a while by the looks of it. Fingers crossed we can defeat this virus quickly.

This thing is going to be here awhile yet, probably more towards end of summer before we start getting back to "normal"

If they re-schedule, they might need to look at the venue type:

1. If they want to keep it to stadiums, it might be 2021.
2. Change to arenas in the winter.

Hopefully the USA dates are not postponed,but you never know... coronavirus is getting out of hand.

Maybe they can do Europe in September. Weather is mostly good.

The daily grind and rut never looked so good.

True. But there will be plenty of sport events on these stadiums as pretty much everything sports related at the moment is postponed. :)

Strong disagree. Working from home is where it's at.

Wait till you need toilet paper.  :hihi:

Would prefer arena's this time if they change it.

Re-schedule stadiums, it will be definitely 2021 you would think. But they might be able to squeeze the euro tour in in Sept. Weather in Europe in Sept is never great for outdoor shows.

As the world struggles to contain the rapid spread of COVID-19, and it has become a global consensus that social distancing is an essential component of the process to make that happen, thousands of socially irresponsible, selfish %#!@ go to a GNR concert. Shame on GNR for holding this concert, and shame on all the attendees for going.
Every person that attended and helped put on that concert just contributed to making the world a less safe place. Thanks!

totally on the venue/gnr.  They should not have giving the fans a choice.  Look at the morons sitting on the beach on spring break at the moment.  Very selfish

Any update on the European tour dates?  It's not looking good with Italy and Spain having the most deaths and cases from the Coronavirus.

Nope. It'll probably be left until much nearer the date but I can't see the tour happening at all.

Certainly the Federal Government considered suspending massive events from the following Monday, March 16 (https://www.dof.gob.mx/nota_detalle.php?codigo=5589479&fecha=16/03/2020 (https://www.dof.gob.mx/nota_detalle.php?codigo=5589479&fecha=16/03/2020)), based on phase 1 of imported cases, to date no transition to phase 2 has been declared. GnR would have complied with any government determination prior to the festival, contrary to the population, who ignores the recommendation to remain in quarantine and take these days as vacations , traveling and going to the beaches, attending religious services, etc.

I love GnR but I preferred not to go to the festival for prevention, trying not to expose the health of my family or close people.

The Olympics have been postponed to 2021, I think soon the European tour dates will be postponed to next year.

The show in Milwaukee is apparently cancelled as well. I think the whole tour might be postponed.

Yeah, just seen that. The whole event it was part of (Summerfest) has been rescheduled for September, but no word on what is happening with the GNR concert in terms of rescheduling.

I wonder if the rest of the North America tour dates will be canceled.  I have tickets for MetLife stadium on July 18.   See what happens.

So, here's the rub.

I SUSPECT we will have gone back to "mostly normal" by then. Especially on the heals of the testimony in the UK a couple days ago by Neil Ferguson from Imperial College, who has revised his estimates based on current data, saying he thinks we should be able to start opening things back up in 6 to 8 weeks (from now).  But I'm not sure we will be at the point where we want tens of thousands of people in one place, yet.  I think the best answer is: You got a shot, kid.

If it were June, I'd say almost certainly not.  But July and August I think there's an outside shot.

Or they may just decide to scrap it and resechedule the whole thing for 2021, just to be on the safe side.

Thanks for the update! :beer:

The Europe leg imo is forget about it. It is due to start way too soon. US leg July 4th there's definitely a chance. If we continue to diligently do the social distancing for at least another month and ramp up the testing. Testing is the biggest key. We do this we will know where the worst is and can do the quarantining and contact tracing. You gotta think right now look how bad it is in places like New York and NOLA and they still are a few weeks away from reaching the height of their infections. We have a lot of work to do in the next 2 months to have a chance to slow this down.

Even if it is relatively contained by the summer months people will be extremely hesitant about attending events with 60,000 people and rightfully so. The Olympics, Euro league etc have all been postponed. Such mass events could cause a second wave of infections.
Not to be a Debbie Downer but I think any touring before the fall is extremely unlikely.

A lot can happen by then but this is more likely true then not. We still need more time to see how effective the stay at home orders are and if any existing drugs show signs of helping. Seeing what happens in China when they start going back to normal in April and see if it spikes again.

Probably.

The EU is a bit ahead of the US curve right now, so again: MAYBE.  But I'd peg that maybe as a lot less of a chance.  Maybe 25% that many/most of those shows happen on schedule.

I would say if you were attending a UK show....you have close to a zero % chance of those shows happening.

As I said: The US shows I'd say are 50/50 for most of them.  I'm feeling more and more pessimistic about the  show at metlife.  Given how NYC looks right now (and yes, I know metlife is in NEW JERSEY)....I think that show is in the most jeopardy.  That place is going to be a mess for a long, long time even AFTER the peak.

I know i sure wouldn't go placing any bets on any large event in the NY/NJ area anytime soon. They are gonna need awhile to recover just because of the population. I see the same scenario playing out in California. States with extremely large populations are gonna get hit harder and longer.

I have tickets to the MetLife stadium but I think it will be postponed.  Maybe they will reschedule for the following year. Crazy times, hopefully life will be back to normal by the fall.

I believe the tour will start in south america like originally intended in late november, the rest of the world will be 2021.

Thats a good guess.
Same dates just 2021

Yes most bands like The Who, Roger Waters, Stones, etc have postponed til 2021.

I haven't any reports blaming this concert for a large outbreak.  Time is up on when they can blame the concert.  Got it in right under the wire.