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Title: AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Nicos on April 15, 2004, 11:19:16 AM
Ajax Garcia, founder of late '90s punk rock n' roll band THE NAPOLEON BLOWNAPARTS, was reportedly approached about filling the vacant guitarist slot in GUNS N' ROSES following the recent departure of Buckethead.

In a press release date April 7, 2004, Ajax explained how he came to be mentioned as a possible touring member of Axl Rose's new band:

"Yes I was contacted by GUNS N' ROSES bassist Tommy Stinson on playing guitar for GUNS N' ROSES," Ajax said in a statement. "I was informed by a mutual friend that Axl Rose was possibly interested in a replacement for Buckethead so I expressed my own interest. Mr. Stinson got the word and called me. He didn't really elaborate about the status of GN'R's relationship with Buckethead at the time but would only say that he wanted to get back with me and would definitely let me know what is up when the timing was right. Stinson seemed like a real cool guy but I have yet to hear back from him or anyone else from that camp. This doesn't mean that I would not welcome the opportunity to play guitar with the new version of GUNS N' ROSES.

"In my opinion Axl Rose is an amazing personality and talent. The real deal! In regards to the way he runs his show? His business is his business. I run my show as well with THE BLOWNAPARTS and it isn't easy. If something fucks up? The leader shoulders 100% of the blame and ultimately ends up the bad guy or the asshole.

"The general public has a hard time swallowing pills this big. Look at Morison, or Richards? Hell, what about Gene Simmons for that matter? He is super successful and so that makes him an easy target for criticism. Axl Rose knew what he wanted and he went for it and I commend him for that.

"GUNS N' ROSES are like the STONES, or ZEP for my generation. I was part of the whole Generation X label and I remember the press trying to tag NIRVANA and Kurt Cobain as the voice of my generation. Although they were great at what they did, Kurt Cobain or NIRVANA as a whole definitely did not speak too or for me like GUNS did.

"I always looked at GUNS N' ROSES and NIRVANA like THE BEATLES and the STONES with NIRVANA being THE BEATLES of course. GUNS put it best for me in one song, 'It's So Easy'. Axl sang I see you standing there, you think you're so cool. Why don't you just fuck off!!! That was some bad-ass shit, man.

"Keep on moving forward GUNS N' ROSES."

*****

source: blabbermouth


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Dont Try Me on April 15, 2004, 11:28:10 AM
hmmm








Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Johnnyblood on April 15, 2004, 11:29:22 AM
Never heard of the guy. I wonder if Axl has.


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Immortal-Cry on April 15, 2004, 11:40:38 AM
Never heard of the guy. I wonder if Axl has.
So do you think Stinson can contact anyone he wants? Everythin is under the controll of The Axl  :hihi:


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Voodoochild on April 15, 2004, 11:40:39 AM
Well.. since he was a punk-rock guitar player, how could he replace a virtuoso like Buckethead?  ???
He is (was?) the lead singer of this Napoleon Blown Apart band...
He also know someone who was in GNR Camp:

The NAPOLEON BLOWN APARTS have also been talking with Ex-Guns'n Roses guitarist Gilby Clark on producing their next full length. Ajax felt that Gilby Clark would be a great producer for the band. With Gilby being in Guns'n Roses he is exactly what Ajax and his band are looking for a producer that knows first hand the trash and filth it takes to make a raw, loud and volatile rock'n'roll record. Look for a new NAPOLEON BLOWN APARTS CD by the end of this year.


Source: http://www.blistering.com/news/newsdet.php3?ID=1969


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Voodoochild on April 15, 2004, 11:45:27 AM
Uh, another info (it's the same thing, but with another source):

Wednesday April 7.2004
Samantha Larsen
"The Loud Americana Group"
323.993.8510
 
Ajax N' Roses? Lead guitarist of "The NAPOLEON BLOWNAPARTS" confirms conversation with Guns N' Roses bassist Tommy Stinson.
 
Yes I was contacted by Guns N' Roses bassist Tommy Stinson on playing guitar for Guns N' Roses. I was informed by a mutual friend that Axl Rose was possibly interested in a replacement for the "Bucket Head" so I expressed my own interest, Mr. Stinson got the word and called me. He didn't really elaborate about the status of G N' R's relationship with Bucket Head at the time but would only say that he wanted to get back with me and would definitely let me know what is up when the timing was right. Tommy seemed like a real cool guy but I have yet to hear back from him or anyone else from that camp. This doesn't mean that I would not welcome the opportunity to play guitar with the new version of Guns N' Roses. In my opinion Axl Rose is an amazing personality and talent and though I am a bit reserved he reminds me allot of a dynamic version of my self. The real deal! In regards to the way he runs his show?  His business is his business. I run my show as well with The Blownaparts and it isn't easy. If something fucks up? the leader shoulders 100% of the blame and ultimately ends up the bad guy or the asshole. The general public has a hard time swallowing pills this big. Look at Morison, or Richards? hell what about Gene Simmons for that matter? he is super successful and so that makes him an easy target for criticism. Axl Rose knew what he wanted and he went for it and I commend him for that. Guns N' Roses are like the Stones, or Zep for my generation. I was part of the whole Generation X label and I remember the press trying to tag Nirvana and Kurt Cobain as the voice of my generation. Although they were great at what they did? Kurt Cobain or Nirvana as a whole definitely did not speak too or for me like Guns did. I always looked at Guns N' Roses and Nirvana like the Beatles and The Stones with Nirvana being the Beatles of course. Guns put it best for me in one song. "It's So Easy". Axl sang I see you standing there, you think you're so cool. Why don't you just fuck off!!! that was some bad ass shit man!! Keep on moving' forward Guns N' Roses and if ya need? have Marshall n' Les Paul will travel (laughs).


source: http://blownaparts.com/AAA.htm (official site)


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Izzy on April 15, 2004, 11:53:20 AM
Intresting...

First we hear of Gilby possibly joining, now this Ajax guy, seems Axl's up to something

Never heard of this Ajax guy or his band, are they any good?


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: DizzyReed63 on April 15, 2004, 11:57:52 AM
Out of the past few guys discussed about taking over... this guy seems like the best choice so far in "fitting in."

Seems like he'd be a good addition, and he's also a good merchandise guy/artist, too.
And as far as I feel, just get someone who can play the part, be a committ-full member, and start putting stuff together.

All this speculation and such, I'm just thinking, "ok, whatever, just get it done!"


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: RyanMFGs on April 15, 2004, 11:58:31 AM
WOW, guy certainly had some strong comments, especially concering the whole nir vana thing. sounded like he was sucking up, but i still thought it was cool


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: grabaraxl on April 15, 2004, 11:59:34 AM
if u go to their site, u canr learn that they are being photographed by robert john, and that their lead singer also tried to get in velvet revolver.

seems like some big gn'r fans trying to get publicity, as far as i'm concerned!

but i also think that whoever axl gets for the guitar spot, will be a nobody like this guy. at least somebody who's not very famous.


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Voodoochild on April 15, 2004, 12:03:09 PM
Hey guys, this band is not bad at all. I like it, reminds me Slash with all this wha-wha work..  It's good for me.

http://www.bigkidztoy.com/aterriblewaytolive.mp3

You can also check a little interview with this guy here (no GNR or Axl mention): http://www.bigkidztoy.com/BIGKIDZAJAX.htm

Here's a pic: (http://www.bigkidztoy.com/ARM.jpg)


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Dont Try Me on April 15, 2004, 12:09:32 PM
the mp3 is kinda cool, the photo is scary :P







Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Voodoochild on April 15, 2004, 12:14:42 PM
the mp3 is kinda cool, the photo is scary :P
Indeed. But isn't too far away from the other members... He's like a mix with Fortus and Finck.  :hihi:


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: McGann on April 15, 2004, 12:38:33 PM
In a press release date April 7, 2004, Ajax explained how he came to be mentioned as a possible touring member of Axl Rose's new band:

I'm probably reading too much into this, but the term "touring member" may indicate that the new guitarist may not be rerecording Bucket's guitar parts.  Could be good news if it's true, assuming that Stinson actually said "touring member" at some point.
/Mike


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: killingvector on April 15, 2004, 12:54:32 PM
It sounds like they maybe trying to get Buckethead back in the mix but in lieu of that imminent failure, they may grab this guy.

he sounds like a great choice, much better than some of the saccharine laced choices bouncing around this board.


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Voodoochild on April 15, 2004, 01:23:09 PM
Here's what he says about the song Save Me (I guess it's the actual name to the mp3 A Terrible Way To Live):

Boom Box #3 contains the track: "SAVE ME" Viva La ROCK! A musical look into the
past of singer song writer Ajax's life as a young boy growing up.
Raised on food stamps and government cheese this rocker
found peace through his music.
Listening  to this track you can't help but to hear  influences like, Iggy
Pop, AC/DC,The Dead Boys, and Guns N' Roses. This song rawks!  
CLICK HERE FOR LYRICS
{DESCRIPTION The Blownaparts reveal their metal roots but maintain the angst and raw power that make them punk}


I just heard all the album... It's not bad. This song, Save Me, is the better one, though. But I guess this guy is just one choice. He's too Slash and nothing like Bucket... Maybe Axl would put Fortus to the lead with Finck and this Ajax guy to the rhythm slot.... But I guess he's a good choice.


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: erose on April 15, 2004, 01:38:48 PM
i think that mp3 is fucking brilliant! the guitar has a really nice sound imo..

i think it's better to have a unknown guitarist in the band than some ex lb guy...


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Voodoochild on April 15, 2004, 01:46:35 PM
Ok, I know, it's the last time:

Slash audition
 
Does Slash have my music? far as I know he has it. I just thought it might be a cool thing to pursue. I was told by a mutual friend of ours that recently Slash and those guys have found a singer already in Scott Weiland. Should be a cool and an interesting project to listen to. My friend who is also friends with them first gave me the heads up on the deal, I then asked my manager to make contact and we did. The CD was sent and that is all I can do, maybe they thought I sucked? (laughs)

I hope Slash and those guys sure do get it going because they are bad ass musicians.


source: http://blownaparts.com/AAA.htm


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Doc Emmett Brown on April 15, 2004, 02:13:02 PM
WOW, guy certainly had some strong comments, especially concering the whole nir vana thing. sounded like he was sucking up, but i still thought it was cool

Sounded like that to me too...

But Angelinos could feel more welcoming of nuGNR if guy whose name is Garcia is in the band.   :yes:


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Voodoochild on April 15, 2004, 02:21:59 PM
But Angelinos could feel more welcoming of nuGNR if guy whose name is Garcia is in the band.   :yes:
What's the problem with Garcia? Just because it's latin?


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Doc Emmett Brown on April 15, 2004, 02:25:23 PM
But Angelinos could feel more welcoming of nuGNR if guy whose name is Garcia is in the band.   :yes:
What's the problem with Garcia? Just because it's latin?

No problem with it at all, dude.  I am an Angelino.  This band has everything under the sun except a dude called Garcia.  My own weird sense of humor...


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: kockstar99 on April 15, 2004, 02:36:09 PM
Sounds like hes kissing Axls ass and wants the job Soooooo bad hes willing to release a press release over the fact that he talked to the bass player....


"oh god please axl call me!! i put a press release saying how similar we are, we run the bands!! its not your fault your called an asshole"

Fuck this guy... I havent heard a lick of music he can play and i dont like him already...

Bring back fucking Paul Huge....


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: John Daniels on April 15, 2004, 02:37:23 PM
Axl has always talked about GN'R developing step by step...from each record...I wonder if this guy called Ajax Garcia is going to be the man that helps GN'R to take that extra step.....I don't think so..


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: blues_rock_axeman on April 15, 2004, 02:38:11 PM

"GUNS N' ROSES are like the STONES, or ZEP for my generation. I was part of the whole Generation X label and I remember the press trying to tag NIRVANA and Kurt Cobain as the voice of my generation. Although they were great at what they did, Kurt Cobain or NIRVANA as a whole definitely did not speak too or for me like GUNS did.

"Keep on moving forward GUNS N' ROSES."

FUCKING THANK YOU!  :beer: Never a truer word!

And anyway, he can't join Guns, he releases press statements.


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Izzy on April 15, 2004, 02:45:08 PM
And anyway, he can't join Guns, he releases press statements.


 :hihi:

Your right he just wouldn't fit in! :hihi:


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Dont Try Me on April 15, 2004, 02:49:55 PM
(http://www.yougotrocked.com/photopost/data/586/1ajax4.jpg)






Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Doc Emmett Brown on April 15, 2004, 03:01:54 PM
And anyway, he can't join Guns, he releases press statements.

 :hihi:

Your right he just wouldn't fit in! :hihi:

Dont worry, if he joins, Axl wil kick that bad habit out of him  :rofl:

He's gonna hate the word 'soon' just like we do.


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Evolution on April 15, 2004, 03:13:35 PM
in that pic of garcia playing guitar he looks more like a band member that bh.buckethead is too much of an individual(his talents shud be centrestage on his own).but im downloading this mp3 to see how this ajax guy shapes up


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: MadmanDan on April 15, 2004, 04:41:30 PM
He kisses ass,but he says the truth(except for the Nirvana-Beatles thing-come on!!!  )  He looks good,he's a GNR fan,but can he play the fuckin guitar?????????


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: jarmo on April 15, 2004, 05:15:55 PM
He looks good,he's a GNR fan,but can he play the fuckin guitar?????????

Who cares? Nobody in GN'R can play their instruments. They all look and dress like freaks..... I read it on the Internet.  :hihi:


/jarmo


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Falcon on April 15, 2004, 06:30:14 PM
He looks good,he's a GNR fan,but can he play the fuckin guitar?????????

Who cares? Nobody in GN'R can play their instruments. They all look and dress like freaks..... I read it on the Internet.  :hihi:


/jarmo

 :rofl:

Anyway, it's obviously a total suck up move, but who the fuck cares?  It's probably a dream shot for the guy.

Good luck to him.


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: NickNasty on April 15, 2004, 06:31:53 PM
This guy is practically begging to be let in....his playing isn't bad, I could easily see him shredding on YCBM! Well, regardless, I'm sure we will have a new guitarist in the new few months  :P


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: The Red Scare on April 15, 2004, 07:13:42 PM
I'd never heard of him until this morning, but I'm listening to one of his albums with The Napolean Blown-Aparts now, and I'm digging it.  "Sonny" sounds like a Black Crowes song.

I like him a lot.  He'd be a 60000000000000000000000x better choice than Wes Borland, whose involvement would make me cancel any plans of buying a new GNR album or seeing them live.


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: badapple81 on April 15, 2004, 07:37:57 PM
Isnt it nice and refreshing to see someone not bag out Axl. His comments were put intelligently (maybe he can give kockstar some tips) and definately didnt come across as "brown nose" to me anyway.

I would definately prefer this guy over Wes.

Well, I'm definately excited to hear that GN'R camp has not come to a total halt and is looking to keep moving on.

 :peace:


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: ClintroN on April 15, 2004, 08:16:29 PM
I say bring on Ajax, i would be stoked as, ;D if i was asked about a possible place in GNR for me, who cares what he's saying. HE'S OBVIOUSLY FUCKIN' EXCITED!!!
I think he's perfect, never heard of his shit but if GNR want him then he must be fuckin' good.
Fuck that robot fella, this guy's my pick. :beer:


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: axls#2 on April 15, 2004, 09:59:19 PM
I would have to agree with many of you hear when I say as long as they don't get Wes Borland! I will not buy the album if they do, well I might buy the album, but i won't go see the show, borland was a fad and that fad has passed, he doesn't really have any talent to fall back on either.


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: NickNasty on April 15, 2004, 10:05:24 PM
I hope that whoever replaces BH, it simply is, as of now, just a TOURING member, hopefully they can work out some kind of agreement to keep BH's material on the record, rather then scrapping the whole fucking thing. But this guy has my vote, based on his enthusiasm alone!


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Jizzo on April 15, 2004, 10:08:26 PM
I think he'd be cool as a touring member. I think he is the type of guy I said would be a good member, ie fortus


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: grog mug on April 15, 2004, 11:03:40 PM
Buckethead was great for this band.  Let's hope he'll come back.  Who the hell is Ajax Garcia, sounds like someone from that Jennifer Lopez movie Salina...


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Timothy on April 16, 2004, 07:23:25 AM
Ajax Garcia is the most Reasonable out of all the other guys that have been talked about.


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Mysteron on April 16, 2004, 07:26:43 AM
A message from management;

- Please let everyone know we (including Tommy!) have never heard of Ajax and while we appreciate his kind words he should focus on letting his music do the talking rather than jumping on the GN?R band wagon. When asked Axl said, ?I'd be wary of anyone who compared Nirvana to the Beatles.? -


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: badapple81 on April 16, 2004, 07:29:59 AM
Thanks Mysteron   :yes:

Come on mate, you must have a little more for us.. anything else they mentioned? Please!  :peace: :beer:


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: badapple81 on April 16, 2004, 07:35:19 AM
For example.. anything on whether things are at a halt until a replacement is found and/or if the guitar parts will be redone?


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: matt88 on April 16, 2004, 07:43:29 AM
I have never heard of that AJAX GARCIA or his band :o


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: axl_rose_700 on April 16, 2004, 08:44:40 AM
Sounds like Axl is up to something, he'll quietly be doing his thing and then BAM, CD and a tour!   ;D    :yes:    :peace:  
Then again, you never know....   ???


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: RnT on April 16, 2004, 09:41:12 AM
A message from management;

- Please let everyone know we (including Tommy!) have never heard of Ajax and while we appreciate his kind words he should focus on letting his music do the talking rather than jumping on the GN?R band wagon. When asked Axl said, ?I'd be wary of anyone who compared Nirvana to the Beatles.? -


Com on Mysteron... give us something...  ::)


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: madagas on April 16, 2004, 10:15:20 AM
God I hope Bucket and Axl can work out their "issues".


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: RnT on April 16, 2004, 10:22:48 AM


God I hope Bucket and Axl can work out their "issues".

don?t say that! no more issues!! NO MORE!  :hihi:

God, I just had a vision of the first BHEAD interview:


Reporter: "Tell me something about you like a ex-member of GNR"

BHEAD: "Now I know why Slash left..."


Buckethead and Slash x Axl
SHIT


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: RZ4 on April 16, 2004, 10:31:14 AM
God I hope Bucket and Axl can work out their "issues".

I'd very much like that too. I don't see any known guitarists available out there that would be a replaceable upgrade for the talents that Buckethead possesses.

Unfortunately though, I'm not so sure if Axl is really pursuing the possibility of talking Buckethead back in.


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: D on April 16, 2004, 11:15:56 AM
i have no clue who this guy is but at least someone said it in public about gnr doin more than nirvana

thats almost like being politicallyincorrect saying that

so a big thumbs up for him praising axl!


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: ppbebe on April 16, 2004, 11:49:29 AM
 :oWhoa! people, people, Isn?t it great to hear from the band this quick? Thanks to this Ajawho.
- Please let everyone know we (including Tommy!) have never heard of Ajax and while we appreciate his kind words he should focus on letting his music do the talking rather than jumping on the GN?R band wagon. When asked Axl said, ?I'd be wary of anyone who compared Nirvana to the Beatles.?

 :oAren?t they playing it smart now? : ok:





Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Eva GnRAxlRosette on April 16, 2004, 12:12:20 PM
this was posted at KNAC in reader rants about the tribute album that came out last month
note the date

shipwreckednigz - 3/31/2004 1:03:25 AM
ha ha ok I am not going to mention my name but you know what? those who know me will know me through Metallica period! I know first hand that Tommy Stenson personally made a telephone call to the Napoleon Blownaparts lead guitarist/vocalsit Ajax Garcia about playing guitar with Axl Rose and the new Guns N' Roses. Ajax was warned over and over by industry friends not to do so but he insisted that if he were invited he would do it. What a jack ass! Ajax is super talented and probably the single most qualified guitarist out there to fill the shoes of the great Slash but I have been close to him in the past and anyone else who knows Ajax knows that his personality is just as wreckless and uncontrollable as Axl him self. WAIT!! on second thought he might fit perfectly? ha ha ha dick head! What a lame joke Axl give it up man and call Izzy and the rest of the original Gunners man. As for Tommy Stenson? create a damn Replacements reunion already. Bucket Head? who cares man. Ajax? for God's sake man do another fucking blownaparts record already man.

so who is this poster?  anyone frequent over there have a clue?
whatever is up this is some kinda wierd coincidence?
you could figure that it was all part of getting some buzz going for Ajax....
I don't know...     ???


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: D on April 16, 2004, 12:19:23 PM
hey mysteron did axl really say that about nirvana?

or were u makin a joke?

that would be cool if axl was still bashin nirvana!

well it wasnt technically a bash i dont guess

but id be wary of anyone who would compare nirvana to the beatles

right on!


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: killingvector on April 16, 2004, 12:42:02 PM
I hope we can hope that Axl has something brewing if he can reject such a statement so coldly.

The guy looks cool, but Buckethead is much more preferable.


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Doc Emmett Brown on April 16, 2004, 01:11:23 PM
A message from management;

- Please let everyone know we (including Tommy!) have never heard of Ajax and while we appreciate his kind words he should focus on letting his music do the talking rather than jumping on the GN?R band wagon. When asked Axl said, ?I'd be wary of anyone who compared Nirvana to the Beatles.? -


Com on Mysteron... give us something...  ::)

You mean this guy flat out lied about talking to Tommy?  I'm surprised Axl isnt suing him.

Initially I thought he was sucking up to Axl because he had been asked to join...but if that's false, now his words seem like sarcasm to me.  A joke at GNR's expense - who woulda thunk it?  ::)


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Sin Cut on April 16, 2004, 01:38:35 PM
Well his image is a good fit, and I like his music as well. I never liked Bucket, mostly because the way he looked. He didn't just fit in. But he is an amazing player.

And really like the music of Napoleon whatevers, need to download more.

It could be worth to give this guy a chance


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: NickNasty on April 16, 2004, 01:51:42 PM
Hey, at least management is talking to someone...although I still have a hard time believing this guy would totally make up a whole story about talking to Stinson....whatever, I don't care who it is, as long as we know something by the end of this year ( yeah, I'm a real optimist  :P).


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: horsey on April 16, 2004, 02:52:30 PM
how come axl didn't ask him yet ? why  someone
else had to ask.


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: DemocracyRose on April 16, 2004, 03:05:39 PM
A message from management;

- Please let everyone know we (including Tommy!) have never heard of Ajax and while we appreciate his kind words he should focus on letting his music do the talking rather than jumping on the GN?R band wagon. When asked Axl said, ?I'd be wary of anyone who compared Nirvana to the Beatles.? -


Why would Ajax G. make these things up....

Is he a lier???

Give us some more Mysteron.... :drool:


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Izzy on April 16, 2004, 03:17:20 PM
When asked Axl said, ?I'd be wary of anyone who compared Nirvana to the Beatles.? -


Wow this rumour only just broke and Axl already knows of it.....he's watching us....he knows all...... :nervous:


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: NickNasty on April 16, 2004, 03:44:01 PM
Axl has eyes everywhere :o


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: AxlsMainMan on April 16, 2004, 07:05:43 PM
Axl is probably a heavy reader of the posts here lately since not a whole lot of anything is going on in the GnR camp. I can see him reading this rumor and then less then five minutes later ringing up Sanctuary and them deploying Mysteron to squander our hopes of knowing a tiny piece of information as to whats going on with our band :hihi:


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: loretian on April 16, 2004, 07:41:02 PM
Thanks for the info, Mysteron.

It seems like such an odd thing, for someone to pretend that they were invited to audition for such a well known band, and make a public statement about it.  Was he trying to show off for Axl?  WTF?


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: erose on April 16, 2004, 10:03:04 PM
Axl has eyes everywhere :o

at least at heretodaygonetohell :P


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: AxlsMainMan on April 16, 2004, 10:08:45 PM
Axl has eyes everywhere :o

at least at heretodaygonetohell :P

Axl was infact Muffin Man. :rofl:


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: SLCPUNK on April 17, 2004, 02:16:05 AM
Haha, this may be the last thing we hear about him and GnR...especially if Axl hires him and puts him under contract. :hihi:

But that's assuming it's true.... :P


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Izzy on April 17, 2004, 04:58:18 AM
Crazy...

This guy claims Tommy asked him about joining......but Tommy denies ever hearing of him........

Why do i sense the sinister prescence of Axl at work - Tommy probably did talk with this Ajax guy, Axl heard of it and ordered a cover up......



Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Mattgnr on April 17, 2004, 06:28:26 AM
I agree with Izzy, i really think Axl has covered this one up.


Hmmm time will tell, but this Ajax character has seemed to piss Axl off, maybe lost his one chance


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Irish rose on April 17, 2004, 08:03:42 AM
or maybe he just wants to leave the door open for buckethead to return?

He may not want to be seen searching for a replacement yet? who know's?...... I don't!


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: axl_rose_700 on April 17, 2004, 12:44:20 PM
God I hope Bucket and Axl can work out their "issues".

I'd rather Axl and Slash work out their issues!   :drool:


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Mutherfunker on April 17, 2004, 02:37:04 PM
I'm too amazed that Axl has commented on anything, to even think about commenting about the subject of this thread.

Christ, he comes out with one letter and now he can't stop blabbering on  ::) ;D

@#$%Muther


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: estranged.1098 on April 17, 2004, 03:02:58 PM

Why would Ajax G. make these things up....

According to GNR management, to promote himself.

Is he a lier???

Again, according to GNR yes he is.

Give us some more Mysteron.... :drool:

What else is there to say about this subject?


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: D on April 17, 2004, 04:21:22 PM
so ajax is tryin to use guns n roses like bucket head did

to promote himself

fuckers!

hopefully if axl does fill buckets spot he will issue a press release


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Izzy on April 17, 2004, 04:26:30 PM
so ajax is tryin to use guns n roses like bucket head did

to promote himself


I don't believe that explanation for a second

There are better ways to promote yourself than this, something doesn't add up.....


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Mattgnr on April 17, 2004, 04:41:12 PM
Yep, i'm gonna put my neck on the line and say there was contact between the two camps.


I just think Axl and co wanted this kept quiet, but now the cover has been blown, probably before time, and this is why Axl responded this way.
 :yes:


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Izzy on April 17, 2004, 04:53:59 PM
Yep, i'm gonna put my neck on the line and say there was contact between the two camps.


I just think Axl and co wanted this kept quiet, but now the cover has been blown, probably before time, and this is why Axl responded this way.
 :yes:

Thats the way i see it

Axl got Tommy to contack Ajax but wanted Ajax to keep quiet - Ajax has to tell someone and blurts this out - Axl is furious and denies the whole thing happened.

But why did he want to keep it quiet? Maybe he still wants Bhead back.....


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Doc Emmett Brown on April 17, 2004, 08:52:33 PM
But why did he want to keep it quiet? Maybe he still wants Bhead back.....

twisted!

But what if Ajax meant this as a parody of the whole GNR situation?  His words were so over-the-top that I'm now suspicious that it was nuttin' but a joke.

Apprentice adept at the art of deception - but who?


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: AdZ on April 17, 2004, 09:07:53 PM
Axl being quoted in a message from the management? That's a first..

Why would they go and ask him? :-\


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: estranged.1098 on April 17, 2004, 09:10:30 PM

But why did he want to keep it quiet? Maybe he still wants Bhead back.....

Apparently Axl likes to keep things quiet  :hihi:.

But the way I see it he does want BH back... I think everyone in the band does, as this whole thing was a big slap in the face for GNR.


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Justis on April 17, 2004, 09:42:42 PM
 Yes we all Listened to West Arkeens  8)words coming out of Axl Roses mouth and went Yes, Yes, Yes.  :beer:

I wonder which bothers Axl more? :nervous:
 Where he got his alter ego (fashion sense???)  from, or the fact that the feminine perspective of Cobain was such a brilliant constellation of perspective in comparison to Axl's egomania.


West record remains the collective brilliant 6th GnR record. If you haven't heard it you should take a listen.

West Arkeen was a huge part of the collective GnR prior to TSI.   West brought SLY energy and studio charisma to the project. You all keep saying Izzy I beg to differ...

I'd a kept the horse Axl  :smoking:cause the glue don't seem to be working at this point.

It is harder to continue being genuis than people realize..... and it's not the money.... How in the world will you know who played what after all these years???

Ain't it fun??????Good Luck





Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Dr H Lecter on April 17, 2004, 10:53:18 PM
A message from management;

- Please let everyone know we (including Tommy!) have never heard of Ajax and while we appreciate his kind words he should focus on letting his music do the talking rather than jumping on the GN?R band wagon. When asked Axl said, ?I'd be wary of anyone who compared Nirvana to the Beatles.? -


Who the hell are you??, You must live in one of the cubicles in the toilets at sanctuary and listen in on all the big wigs conversing about their red headed problem child or maybe you're God?.


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: SLCPUNK on April 18, 2004, 12:26:23 AM
A message from management;

- Please let everyone know we (including Tommy!) have never heard of Ajax and while we appreciate his kind words he should focus on letting his music do the talking rather than jumping on the GN?R band wagon. When asked Axl said, ?I'd be wary of anyone who compared Nirvana to the Beatles.? -


Who the hell are you??, You must live in one of the cubicles in the toilets at sanctuary and listen in on all the big wigs conversing about their red headed problem child or maybe you're God?.

I don't know about the toilets, but he is legit.

I heard that a guy on here named "D" hangs around toilets, but you'll have to ask him about that (he'll be wearing a 90210 T-shirt).... :hihi: :rofl:


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: axls#2 on April 18, 2004, 02:40:22 AM
Yep, i'm gonna put my neck on the line and say there was contact between the two camps.


I just think Axl and co wanted this kept quiet, but now the cover has been blown, probably before time, and this is why Axl responded this way.
 :yes:

that doesn't really make sense, but lots of things don't I guess, why would you have to hide the fact that you talked to a guitarist? its not like he's a known assassin or something.


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: John Daniels on April 18, 2004, 02:49:55 AM
I don't believe that Ajax Garcia will have any kind of relationship with GN'R...or have had..maybe Tommy has mentioned that there is free GN'R slot for trying out but nothing more..


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: estranged.1098 on April 18, 2004, 03:06:16 AM

that doesn't really make sense, but lots of things don't I guess, why would you have to hide the fact that you talked to a guitarist? its not like he's a known assassin or something.

It's a better way to do business, to keep things quiet.



Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Mattgnr on April 18, 2004, 06:18:36 AM
Yep, i'm gonna put my neck on the line and say there was contact between the two camps.


I just think Axl and co wanted this kept quiet, but now the cover has been blown, probably before time, and this is why Axl responded this way.
 :yes:





that doesn't really make sense, but lots of things don't I guess, why would you have to hide the fact that you talked to a guitarist? its not like he's a known assassin or something.



This makes a lot of sense - Using the example for my love for Tottenham hotspurs (A premiership football club) they have been in the hunt for football managers (coaches) and they have reportedly spoken to a dozen or so people, and they have denied flat out any names mentioned, even though it is very much possible they have made contact, and they will do so until it is on their terms.

I think its the same with Axl, he is just keeping his options open until the very last minute!

Maybe he does wants Buckethead back - but he would need a replacement just incase, and i am sure he doesn't want buckethead knowing they have checked other guitarist's out already.


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: kockstar99 on April 18, 2004, 06:31:28 PM
What better way than to ask for an audition than a press release kissing the singers ass...  i knew it was bullshit ..


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: badapple81 on April 18, 2004, 07:02:44 PM
A message from management;

- Please let everyone know we (including Tommy!) have never heard of Ajax and while we appreciate his kind words he should focus on letting his music do the talking rather than jumping on the GN?R band wagon. When asked Axl said, ?I'd be wary of anyone who compared Nirvana to the Beatles.? -


Who the hell are you??, You must live in one of the cubicles in the toilets at sanctuary and listen in on all the big wigs conversing about their red headed problem child or maybe you're God?.

I don't know about the toilets, but he is legit.

I heard that a guy on here named "D" hangs around toilets, but you'll have to ask him about that (he'll be wearing a 90210 T-shirt).... :hihi: :rofl:

 :rofl: :rofl: :hihi: :hihi:


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: ppbebe on April 18, 2004, 07:53:06 PM
Who the hell are you??, You must live in one of the cubicles in the toilets at sanctuary and listen in on all the big wigs conversing about their red headed problem child or maybe you're God?.
And your imagination is just remarkably poor and poo-pooh. :-\
Makes me wonder what kinda standard you are living in. Looks lowbrow as hell. :'(


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Counterfeit_God on April 19, 2004, 08:33:54 PM
God I hope Bucket and Axl can work out their "issues".

I'd very much like that too. I don't see any known guitarists available out there that would be a replaceable upgrade for the talents that Buckethead possesses.

Unfortunately though, I'm not so sure if Axl is really pursuing the possibility of talking Buckethead back in.

I think there are plenty of guitarists who could enter the band and do just as well as buckethead did.  Granted Bucket's shred solos on the old songs ruled, but they arent really needed.  Anybody can play Slash's solos.

Guys I'd love to see with the job:

Gilby Clarke:  Gilby has already been there, and he looks like he's a free agent at the moment.

Al Pitrelli: Al is a kickass guitarist, and a class act musician.  He is currently playing with Savatage, and has played with the likes of Alice Cooper and Megadeth as well.  BRILLIANT guitarist.  He could nail Slash's bluesly solos, but bring a little shred to the table as well.  Hell, we could even ditch Robin if Al came into the fold!!  

Kim Thayil:  Kim is another great guitarist.  Too bad he's done virtually nothing since Soundgarden disbanded.

Jerry Cantrell:  Jerry is one of my favorite guitarists of alltime, but considering he has his solo stuff going on, and is jamming with Mike Inez and Sean Kinney again...this is never going to happen.

Zakk Wylde: Zakk is too busy, but that would be a damn wet dream.  Hell, with Zakk in the band-Axl could get rid of every other guitarist involved.

As for this Ajax Garcia fellow...I dig that song, and he looks the part.  I'd have to hear more than this one clip though to determine whether or not I like the idea.

Hopefully Axl makes a decision and tells us what the hell it is though.


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: K-Rock on April 19, 2004, 09:57:29 PM

I don't know about the toilets, but he is legit.



I must have missed the verification that Mysteron was legit.

What did I miss?


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: volcano62 on April 20, 2004, 04:39:10 PM
I thought of Kim Thayil as well, he's a very talented musician.


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Mysteron on June 10, 2004, 12:33:22 PM
I was just thinking about this story from a few weeks ago. Funny stuff  :rofl: Anyway, Ajax did eventually respond to this story in the end a week or so after it all happened. It's on the Blownaparts websites and here is what they said (if you never saw their response)

-----------------

In response to Tommy Stinson and his management denying ever talking with Ajax (lead guitarist of The Napoleon Blownaparts) Ajax's manager had this to say.

Today I have been contacted by various reporters seeking a response to comments made by Axl Rose and his manager concerning a phone conversation between Ajax and Tommy Stinson. To date I have declined these requests. However, (Ajax requested that I stress this) with all due respect to Mr. Rose and GnR, Ajax stands by the original story as reported.

It?s also important to note that the story was altered and a misleading header was added by the press, probably to beef up interest. This story came on the heels of a massive ad campaign for Ajax/Blownaparts related promotions including the signing of a Napoleon Blownaparts and Black Vodka SEMdisc deal.  

Ajax made a public remark concerning a phone conversation with the bassist and he was later advised to go into detail through a press release as we noticed his remarks hit the internet and they were altering quickly.
The singer's original remarks were light hearted and he jokingly admitted that a member of Guns N' Roses returned a phone call twice.

People should know that there is no doubt Mr. Stinson did call Ajax.

?This whole thing has just been blown way out of proportion, Ajax said. All I wanted to do was to show my interest in a jam with Rose (laughs).?  

The initial press release from The Blownaparts management was simply intended to clarify that Ajax did, in fact have a phone conversation with Tommy Stinson, and not once did Ajax or anyone representing him report that he was asked to join Guns N' Roses.

Fans should also no that the singer/guitarist has no intensions of breaking up his current band or leaving it. Ajax would also like to assure his fans that he will release a new Blownaparts record by winter 2004.

---------------

 :rofl: :rofl:


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on June 10, 2004, 01:22:42 PM
so Myst, whats the final word ?
did tommy talked  with ajax or not ?  ;D


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: christina_rose on June 10, 2004, 01:52:43 PM
I know I'm going to get sh!t on for this but oh well. Does anyone else find it odd that Axl can find the time to dispel this rumor or whatever it is, and can't answer a few simple questions that were sent to him so we know what IS going on?


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on June 10, 2004, 03:56:41 PM
I know I'm going to get sh!t on for this but oh well. Does anyone else find it odd that Axl can find the time to dispel this rumor or whatever it is, and can't answer a few simple questions that were sent to him so we know what IS going on?

no you're the only one finding that odd.
we all think it is completly normal.
you are gettin sh!t on right now, as you said.
 :o ;D


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Mysteron on June 10, 2004, 04:23:04 PM
so Myst, whats the final word ?
did tommy talked  with ajax or not ?  ;D

I'm not sure what the final word is. It's just a case of, who do you want to believe

The response says that 'the press' put a different spin on what actually happened. But from what I remember, it was only Blabbermouth who reported the story, but the Blownaparts website was happy to put the Blabbermouth story, word for word, on their website

My opinion is that the Blownaparts were just trying to get some attention for themselves. It was quite funny though


Title: Re:AJAX GARCIA: I Was Approached About Playing Guitar For GUNS N' ROSES
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on June 10, 2004, 04:32:26 PM
so Myst, whats the final word ?
did tommy talked  with ajax or not ?  ;D

I'm not sure what the final word is. It's just a case of, who do you want to believe

The response says that 'the press' put a different spin on what actually happened. But from what I remember, it was only Blabbermouth who reported the story, but the Blownaparts website was happy to put the Blabbermouth story, word for word, on their website

My opinion is that the Blownaparts were just trying to get some attention for themselves. It was quite funny though

well.
it's not that important anyway.
can't u send axl a pen or something, maybe he has trouble finding one to answer the questions ....