Here Today... Gone To Hell!

the times they are a-changin'!
who here's a dylan fan?!
i was so excited when i found out the man is coming out with a whole new album this summer, it's supposedly slated for an august release! dylan's a musical genius, there is no denying that, his songs are hauntingly good and the whole aura surrounding this legend is amazing. if you have a chance to experience dylan live, which shouldn't be too hard a task seeing as he is constantly out on his "never ending tour", grab the chance, you don't wanna miss the chance to see a legend! i'm going to see dylan for the second time in my life this summer at roskilde, on the same ticket as guns n' roses (!), it's a dream come true! any ideas as to what you think his next album will sound like? dylan, like axl, is impossible to predict, but i know i was really impressed with his two latest efforts, both classic albums already in their own rights! i liked the bluegrass influence on the last one too, but i'm sure dylan has us in for another surprise this summer!

I'm certainly excited about that!

<Huge-ass Dylan fan over here!

Big Dylan fan here!!  ;D

I love his son, but not him.

wtf?? ??? :nervous: :confused:

An obvious Wallflowers fan.? ?The lead singer is Dylan's son.? ?: ok:

really? cool! i can't believe i didn't know that :)
i love the dylan song wallflower btw
but how can anyone like his son but not dylan?
seems that sounds completely crazy to me
but to each his own i guess : ok:

Man thats good news!!!


I love Dylan, well i f he tours the states, i'll be there!!   :yes:


This is a great year for music, i cant believe it!  :beer:

great news! go Dylan! :D

I'm a really really really really bigfan of Dylan. Good on him for this album.  : ok: Can't wait to hear it.

Dylan is amazing, one of my all time fav's

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finally the time is here, ladies and gentleman! the release of a new dylan album is an event everytime, the man is a musical genius and his last 2 efforts have proven he is still at large! this new album will no doubt live up to the legacy and my expectations are sky high! people who have heard clips from it say it sounds like a dream, like a cross between "time out of mind" and "love and theft", and record company excecutives say there are at least 3 masterpieces on there, and that they are approaching this album as a major release worldwide. go get it, you won't be disappointed! unless chinese democracy is released, this will undoubtedly be the best release this year! :smoking: :beer: :drool:

hahaha, i can't believe i forgot to mention that!
AUGUST 29TH, 28TH IN EUROPE! ;D
the last piece in the wonderful triology that also includes "time out of mind" and "love and theft", "modern times" is set to be another grammy winning dylan classic for sure! :D


edit: the press release


Bob Dylan to Release First New Album in Five Years
Monday June 12, 7:02 pm ET 
Modern Times Arrives in Stores and Online August 29


NEW YORK, June 12 /PRNewswire/ -- Bob Dylan's first new album in five years, Modern Times, will arrive in stores and online August 29. The artist's 44th album features 10 new Bob Dylan songs recorded this winter with Dylan on keyboards, guitars, harmonica and vocals, accompanied by his touring band.
 
Song titles on Modern Times include "Thunder On The Mountain," "Spirit On The Water," "Workingman's Blues," and "When The Deal Goes Down."

Columbia Records Chairman Steve Barnett stated, "A new Bob Dylan record is an event. Bob is that rare artist whose music defies all trends and resonates throughout all levels of our culture, and he continues to be as contemporary and relevant as any artist in music. We're approaching Modern Times as the third release in an outstanding trilogy of recorded works -- along with Time Out Of Mind and 'Love and Theft.' This is a staggering record by any standards, and is a major priority for our company, worldwide."

Bob Dylan is one of the world's most popular and acclaimed songwriters, musicians and performers, having sold nearly 100 million albums and performed literally thousands of shows around the world in a career spanning five decades.

His most recent studio albums, Time Out Of Mind and "Love & Theft" have been among his most commercially successful and critically lauded, each having sold more than a million copies in the U.S. and earning Grammy nominations for Album Of The Year (Time Out Of Mind won that award in 1998).

He wrote and recorded "Things Have Changed" for the 2000 film Wonder Boys, for which he received both the Academy Award and Golden Globe. The first volume of his memoirs, Chronicles, was one of the most acclaimed and best-selling non-fiction works of 2004, and last year's No Direction Home film, directed by Martin Scorsese, captivated audiences worldwide as it documented Dylan's early career and rise to fame. The film won a Peabody Award in 2006.

Bob Dylan's weekly XM Satellite Radio show, Theme Time Radio Hour, debuted in May and has quickly become one of that network's most popular programs.

I got my Dylan tickets for State College today!  Can't wait to see him again.

awesome! :)
i saw him last month, and in 2001, we are so lucky to still have him around! :beer:

Sweet, how was the show.  The way I see it going to see Dylan is like gambling.  You're gonna enjoy it, but you always hope he plays at least one of your favorite songs.  I think with the new album coming out, the setlist may favor it a bit, but I at least hope to hear one of my core four being
Just Like A Woman, Tangled Up In Blue, The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll or Tonight, I'll be Staying Here With You.  As long as I get one of those I'll be super happy.  But yeah it's great to see Bob still out there ripping it up touring constantly. 

the show was awesome, dylan's still got it! :beer: yeah he varies his setlist alot, no wonder when he's touring constantly, but i'm sure you'll enjoy it alot! bob dylan's songs are timeless, so just seeing them played live by the man himself is an experience. when he played "like a rolling stone" i got chills down my spine, thinking that this is the same guy who played that song and changed the world with his music in 1965! a living legend indeed! :beer: when did you see him last?

Went to see him in the summer of '04 in Altoona, PA with Willie Nelson.
Yeah with a catalog like his with like hundreds upon hundreds of songs, each show really gets to be personal.

have you heard his two latest albums? awesome stuff, i expect the new one to be even better! bob's a genius! :beer:

Yeah my ex-gf bought me the 15 album hybrid SACD box set with the majority of albums in it two years ago. It has "Love and Theft" which I think is a really great album.  Shit all the Dylan albums are pretty great except Under the Red Sky and a few from the early 80s.  It'd be hard to rank my top five, but i'd probably go.
1. Blonde on Blonde
2. Blood on the Tracks
3. New Morning
4. Highway 61 Revisited
5. Nashville Morning

I also like the Bootleg series releases.......the Rolling Thunder Revue 1975 is my favorite.  Some great versions of oldies on that one especially the version of KOHD with the kickass different lyrics.

im really looking forward to this. his last 2 albums have been beauts and if its as strong as either of those 2, dylan fans are in for a treat

 "I don't know anybody who's made a record that sounds decent in the past 20 years, really. You listen to these modern records, they're atrocious, they have sound all over them. There's no definition of nothing, no vocal, no nothing, just like ? static? Even these songs probably sounded ten times better in the studio when we recorded 'em. CDs are small. There's no stature to it."

So, since Appetite for Destruction and both Use Your Illusions came out within that time period, this must mean Bob Dylan finds them to be "atrocious." Oh, and Prince? He sucks too. So do Rage Against the Machine, Nirvana, Soundgarden, Johnny Cash, David Bowie, Elton John, Nine Inch Nails, and all those other horrible artists.  ::)

Oh, and Bob? You made eight albums in the past twenty years.  ;)

funny, especially that last line, but hey... that title is a bit mis-leading dont ya think ???

The title is a bit misleading since he doesn't specifically mention GN'R, but if he hates all albums within the past 20 years, he hates them too!  : ok:

Seriously, is Bob off his rocker? Has it all gone to his head or what? He sounds like a major prick here, especially considering the fact that he's bashing technology that has already dated itself (CDs) due to MP3 distribution - PLUS he has his own satellite radio show! Tell me Bob - would you be able to broadcast your show if people didn't use modern technology to listen to music? Um, no.

Bob Dylan sounds like a hater whose time has passed him by.

Prince OWNS Bob Dylan

The title is misleading.

Also.. I think hes talking about the sound quality on CD's. That he prefers the warmer sounds of vinyl.

I think you should chill RussianR... lol, you probably read into it too much.

I changed the title.  : ok:

Maybe you're right - but it's still a stupid thing for him to say.

If the music is sufficiently interesting, then poor sound recording doesn't matter at all. Many of the greatest death metal songs ever recorded were on 80's demo tapes.

I don't know if its stupid either.. some people just prefer older audio formats. They DO sound different to the trained ear anyways. CD and Mp3 have a harsher sound.

Anyways.. I still think the title is misleading.. he only hates any audio format from the last 20 years. He even goes on to say that his own songs probably sounded 7 times better in the studio when they were recording it than on the record.

It's not like he hates the music.. he just doesn't like the way it came out.

Im not even a Dylan fan, im just a fan of misinterpreting.

PS. Walk.. 80's demo tapes could technically be exempt from Dylans "I hate the past 20 years of albums"... tapes are pre CD

I think Bob Dylan has earned the right to say that.  No one has touched anything he's done musically since he started and to the person that said he doesn't like Johnny Cash, Elton John, Bowie and such.......perhaps you should do a little research because those artists have been around more than 20 years.  Dylan and Cash were huge friends and recorded a whole album of songs together that was bootlegged.  Just so ballswingers can relax a sec, Dylan had said a long long time ago that Gnr's version of KOHD was kinda cool. 

Anyone who thinks he is saying that bands suck are an idiot (ie, everyone on Metal Sludge).

The article is about the audio fidelity of CDs as oppose to vinyl. He is saying that as a result of digital formats album production has sounded poor since compact discs were introduced. He said it when CDs first came out and he is saying it now. Nothing exciting.

listen to AFD on cd then listen to it on tape..

I prefer the sound of vinyl over anything else. Otherwise, it's an inconvenience.

Yea bob has def paid his dues. He is a rock legend he can say what he wants

Bob Dylan is the homeless person's Prince, right?  :hihi:

they are both genius's. He is referring to recording techniques and digital technology as opposed to the talent of artists over the last 20 yrs

he's old school, but there are plenty who agree that analog has a nicer,warmer tone

He's right - Vinyl sounds much better.

As for dissing modern bands, I bet every single poster here has said something similar at one point in there lives.  "Waaaaa, all modern music sucks, etc.."  He Obviously hasn't listened to Muse.  I never thought Dylan was that great anyway.  Pretty decent but not as good as Neil Young.

the guy is like 100 why would he like rock music, 'specially since he's so far from that genre himself

I just couldn't see Bob DYlan rocking out to Rage :rofl: that's like against the law or something :hihi:

I always like his writing, his voice is another story.  :beer:

I like cassette better, sorry  :-\

aint talkin' off the new record is pretty much the greatest song since desolation row.

In your opinion, but I'm not saying I like Bob Dylan better than Prince either, I don't really care for both. Each generations of music listeners like something different.

What does he think about his own albums in the past 20 years then? He thinks Time out of Mind and Love and Theft are horrible?

Just quoting this for people who choose not to actually read what he said.

^^^^^ You should quote that whenever somebody starts to diss Dylan for "hating all the good artists in the last 20 years"... pshhh.. people need to READ the article sometimes.

bob dylan hates Guns n roses?   now im pissed

who the hell is this bob dylan guy anyway? he wrote Knockin on Heavens door? big deal-  he should be thanking GNR, and kissing their feet for blessing the world with a cover of his slowass boring song.

bob dylan hates GNR!?  now i hate bob dylan- what do you think of that mr. tamborine man? HOW DOES IT FEEL- to be so hated? i found a picture of his old ass face and pissed on it just 5 minutes ago. pissed all over his stupid nose and eyes.

dont get me started on his talentless kid-  poor kid thinks he has to be a singer to get his dads attention, I HATE THIS FAMILY SO MUCH NOW

Are you ... crazy ? or is this post a lame joke ?

Bob Dylan is a fucking genious, and one of the last true songwritters.

i'll give him that,  but hating my favorite band-  im putting a jihad on him now, and if you dont believe me... i'll put a jihad on you too
  oh ya - enough with the cowboy hat already

Lol.

Don't worry bob, you are still an amazing artist to me.

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Does he? Seriously? Where can I get a Bob Dylan....?

What a stupid phrase 'So and so owns so and so'.

LOL is right. You gotta wonder hey.

I HOPE the guy was joking.. im assuming..  :-\

 :hihi:

Its already been established that the thread starter completely missed the point, but it should be noted that Dylan recruited Slash to play on "Wiggle, Wiggle" in 1990.

A lot of people missed the "point."

Read the front page of Metacritic.com.

The new Dylan record is magnificent.  Oh, wait, is this off topic?  :rofl:

I dont think you can say Bob Dylan hates GNR... not specifically

dont listen to him-  even bob dylan himself said it sounds terrible.  heres some quotes  about his album
"atrocious, they have sound all over them"
"There's no definition of nothing, no vocal, no nothing, just like ? static?"
"Even these songs probably sounded ten times better in the studio when we recorded 'em."
"There's no stature to it."

i find it sad that a person that twists words and blatantly lies like this poster is allowed to own a computer.

Bob Dylan Language For Dummies[/u]
(please read for understanding of Bob's Quote)

"I don't know anybody who's made a record that sounds decent in the past 20 years, really.

I don't know anyone who's made a compact disc(CD) that has as good audio quality as records in the past twenty years.

You listen to these modern records, they're atrocious, they have sound all over them. There's no definition of nothing, no vocal, no nothing, just like ? static?

When you listen to these CDs(Bob, here, is used to saying records from his youth, so he says modern records), they have worser quality than the warm sound of vinyls.

Even these songs probably sounded ten times better in the studio when we recorded 'em. CDs are small. There's no stature to it.

The songs sound much better live than on album.  CDs have bad quality, there's no stature.

READ IT.

Some of y'all need to chill out. As others have mentioned, he is criticizing the sound quality of CD's and mp3's vs. vinyl. There are plenty of CD's out there that sound great (AFD being one of them), but he's got more experience at this than any of us so I'll take his word for it. He's not criticizing the actual music, he's criticizing the crappy sound quality.

not only do i own and operate a computer,  but i work for George Bush too : ok:

LMFAO :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:? ?YEAH RIGHT BUDDY! Keep dreaming of Diamonds and Pearls! :rofl: :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:

...I think I found my new sig! :hihi:

Dylan is a better lyricist


Prince is a better singer, much better overall musician, prince is way more diverse and I think he is an overall better songwriter as far as music,melody,different styles etc.


Quit believing everything your parents told u and everything the critics say.

He can write a song but to me, thats about it.

Its all a matter of taste, D.  I personally like his voice and songs.

I actually own 15 Dylan records and have listend to him since the age of 15. He has written songs in more genres than Prince; Prince has not covered more music territory than Dylan - that simply isn't true. To compare Prince to Bob Dylan is silly because they are from two different eras and are speaking from entirley different platforms. Only The Beatles have contributed to popular music on the levels Bob Dylan has...

i have say about 20 GnR vinyls and i have to say that some songs sound better on vinyl than on CD, for instance on AFD you can barely evenhear Izzy's parts where as on CD its clear to hear it. but i guess its just peoples own opinions of what they like the sounds of best

Just sayin, If Dylan did diss every artist over the last 20 years, He shouldnt diss Prince cause personally I feel Prince is the most talented musician ever.

I don't think that Bob Dylan was dissing any artist in particular. I think what he was trying to say was that the music business isn't as genuine as it once was and there is a lot of music made for the sake of $$$. Music is marketed different and albums are produced with a lot of pre meditated style and image. He's saying in todays music there is less thought put into the songs and less care being put into the production. In fact, Bob Dyaln is going to be touring with 3 good bands from our era. So, don't misread whay he's really trying to say - "There is a lot of crappy music out there these days and folk are buying it"

TOUR DATES  w/ presale info attached

Bob Dylan with Kings of Leon
10/11 Vancouver BC 9/9 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM Veronique
10/13 Seattle WA 9/9 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM Marshall
10/14 Portland OR 9/9 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM Jake
10/16 San Francisco CA 9/10 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM Jerome
10/17 San Francisco CA 9/10 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM Jerome
10/18 Sacramento CA 9/9 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM Edwards
10/20 Los Angeles CA 9/9 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM Canyon
10/22 San Diego CA 9/8 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM Iguana

Bob Dylan solo
10/24 Denver CO 9/9 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM N/A Brent
Bob Dylan with Kings of Leon
10/25 Lincoln NE 9/16 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM Cassidy
10/27 Chicago IL 9/9 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM Frontera
10/28 Chicago IL 9/9 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM Frontera

Bob Dylan with Foo Fighters (Acoustic) 
10/29 St. Paul 9/9 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM Bunker
10/31 Madison WI 9/11 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM Boo
11/2 Detroit MI 9/9 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM Silver
11/3 London ON 9/8 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM Bangers
11/5 Ottawa ON 9/8 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM Beaver
11/7 Toronto ON 9/8 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM Chanice
11/8 Montreal QU 9/9 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM Bagels

Bob Dylan with The Raconteurs 
11/9 Portland ME 9/9 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM N/A Chippie
11/11 Boston MA 9/9 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM Waldo
11/12 Boston MA 9/9 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM Waldo
11/13 Uniondale NY 9/9 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM Bucket
11/15 Amherst MA 9/16 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM  Pioneers
11/16 East Rutherford NJ 9/9 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM Squankum
11/17 Fairfax VA 9/9 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM Cheerleader
11/18 Philadelphia PA 9/9 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM 9/5 @ 10AM Friends

 
 

If that is what he was saying than I agree.

Music is all about posers and carbon copys.

When Paris Hilton can make a record... that is when u know the record business is over.

i hate that so many people are misquoting what he said... although that is nothing new, people have been misquoting bob for years. he didnt say anything about the people making music. even if he did, bob dylan can say whatever he wants.

First of all, you kids need to learn some things, Bob Dylan is the greatest lyricist, songwriter, and poet of the past 100 years. There has not been anyone have the talent and power with words since Shakespeare. By this, he has the right to say anything he wants about the current music scene. Where as I don't agree with him, you all need to learn who he is and his work before you go around bashing him like this.

And FYI, he's only 62, not quite 100 years old.

direct quote from bob dylan (or someone who looks like him anyways)
"i used to be with 'it', then they changed what 'it' was, now what im with is'nt 'it' anymore, and whats 'it' seems weird and scary"

all old people have problems with music the young people like.   

if you are going to quote him, quote the entire thing not just one sentence taken out of context.

I read the whole Dylan interview in RS. He is only talking about HOW the material is recorded and the sound of it. He is not saying there are no good songs or albums. Basically too much technology can lead to poor recordings/poor production.  :peace:

Dylan has NOTHING on Prince; HE HAS NOT COVERED MORE GENRES!

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.  Dylan's only covered the blues, rockabilly, soul, jazz, folk, rock n roll, gospel, country, etc....Dylan's done it all and then some....Prince, while interesting in his own right, can't touch Dylan...not musically not lyrically.  That's not personal taste either, that's just fact.

No, it is your opinion, and most music critics would probably agree that Prince is more diverse when it comes to his SOUND. Dylan is a better lyricist but he has never been regarded as a strong singer, and his main style is folk - Prince is definitely more "out there" than Dylan when it comes to experimentation with different genres. Listen to 3121 (or whatever it's called) and then compare that to Purple Rain - you'd never think it's the same guy.

theres only one way to solve this Dylan vs. Prince scandal- and that is a late night basketball game

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It's all about taste. I feel that CD's (and digital recording) is the best thing that have happened to audio production. Some like the gritty and "raw" sound of vinyl, others like the fact that they can get pretty much any sound they want due to digital recording and CD manufacturing. And if it's an issue with releasing the vision you have and still being able to reach the masses through a major label, well, then I suggest Dylan records his albums in an analog studio, transfer that recording to vinyl then transfer the raw vinyl sound onto a CD and whaddayaknow, you have your vinyl-sounding-but-still-mass-produced-and-market-friendly-product.  : ok:

Or Dylan could just go back to playing clubs and sell those vinyl LP's out of the back of his van...No one's forcing him to make millions off of distributing music on CD's on a major label.  ::)

 :rofl:

What a joke!

NOBODY ALIVE can touch Prince!

Is Dylan a great song writer, bass player, guitar player, drummer, keyboards, piano, synthesisers?

Can he rip a guitar solo then sit at the piano and sing in an amazing falsetto, jump up do the splits, spin and let off a spine tingling scream?

I have 23 Prince albums and i have listened to lots of music; i know for a fact musicians are in amazement at Prince.

So what if he may hate GNR.

They were just stupid little white boy posers anyways. Just ask Axl.

lets say bob dylan and prince are playing in your town the same night at the same time in bars that are across town from each other-   a madman has taken your family hostage and says you have to go see one of these shows

who would you go see?

my vote is for prince

I can tell you the same thing.......go listen to Blonde on Blonde/Highway 61/Another Side of BD and then listen to Nashville Skyline.   Two totally different sounds and genres...even a different voice.   And to the other person who asked if Dylan could play all those instruments........YES....he's a multi-instrumentalist.  His main style WAS folk in the 60's....but he evolved heavily over the years.   Listen to New Morning or Blood On The Tracks.....some of those songs will blow you away lyrically, musically anyway you want it.  And as for the concert question......I saw Dylan live last Sunday.  From other setlists of this past tour, we in State College got one of his best set lists in years.....and he was playing in full force.  Laughing, having a great time and even sung his ass off for Highway 61.  Overall with the opening acts (Elana James...a beautiful stunning queen of the violin, Junior Brown...you have to see him in person to truly be awed...and SRV's older brother Jimmie) it was the best concert I'd ever been to. 

great album as expected! was wondering what other peoples favorite song is on the album?  mine is def workingman's blues #2 : ok:

I like Someday Baby, but Nettie Moore is cool too.  Workingman's Blues #2 has some great lyrics though.

best album ever.

well, of the decade at least.

aint talkin' is so good, its maybe top 10 dylan. top 30 at least.

Love it.  Workingman's Blues #2 is heartbreaking, Nettie Moore is similarly affecting.  Someday Baby is a great backhand swipe and Ain't Talkin' is an amazing atmospheric closer.  I can't wait for his NY show in November!

I really enjoyed Time Out of Mind, but Love and Theft and Modern Times are quite jazzy and boring. They would be good albums to play in the background at a nice restaurant, but that's all they are, background music. Don't let the reviews fool you, Modern Times is definitely not in the same league as Blood on the Tracks, Blonde on Blonde, Highway 61, and even Time out of Mind. I saw Bob Dylan last year and his singing was indecipherable and the song rearrangements were bland. If you're going to see the old guard, save your money and go to "The Who" instead.

I can't get this song out of my head.

It's funny, the album it's from never gets much attention, and the song only gained popularity after being featured in "The Big Lebowski," but it's brilliant.

It sounds like standard Dylan, but something about the opening (the "Whoooo whooo whooo whooo" thing) is kinda trippy and harmonious...separating it from other work. It almost becomes something totally different in the opening - something with the surge of instruments and the way the voice effortlessly shifts between keys like that. Very odd (but wonderful) effect it gives the song.

Anyway, yeah. I just love this song. The lyrics, the melody, the vocals - all great. And it worked so well in the film.  ;D

Great song. Dylan rocks : ok:

bob dylan, lyrical mastermind and creative genius. no one in front and none on the sides.

Words can't even describe how amazing this album is. Pure brilliance from the man who has made the best music in the world for the past 40 years and still has it! Nettie Moore, Workingman's Blues #2, Ain't Talkin', Spirit On The Water, The Levee's Gonna Break... The list goes on. Pure magic from the world's number 1 creative genius and musical inspiration. 8)

Thats a bold statement.


Theres alot of musicians out there but i certanly wouldnt call Dylon the #1 creative musical genius.

Didn't he copy Woodie Guthrie alot in his music ?

Oh well, to each his own.  :beer:

Woodie Guthrie was his inspiration in his early days as a young musician and yes he imitated him, but that was before he grew to be an astounding artist on his own. And no, in Dylan's case I don't think it's a bold statement at all, if you look into things you will find that a huge amount of artists today have been inspired by Bob Dylan in one way or another. There is a reason he is the most covered artist of all time and that a large chunk of his songs have went on to become hits performed by other artists. As a creative genius and inspiration he is unparallelled.

Ya your probably right.

Honestly, i dont really know alot about bob dylan. just recently i've been listening to alot of his stuff on itunes, really mellow shit, i like it alot.

I also picked up that "no direction home" dvd. really good.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=kioVHy3fqwU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfJO6_lk-lM

Pure magic.

For those  of us out of the know but are curious, the titles of those 2 albums would be?

"Time out of mind" and "Love and theft".
Both strongly recommended.

Is Bob Dylan overrated?

It is a heresy to say that, and one will lose all credibility among most music fans if one holds that opinion.

Personally though, I just don't see what the big deal is. I like his music and think he's a great songwriter, but that said, I've never really been that much into his music. While I like albums like Highway 61 Revisited etc., I could never really embrace a Dylan album and fall in love with it. His music just doesn't do a whole lot for me.

Anyone else feel the same way?

I don't see what the big deal is either.  Hell, I can't understand anything he says.  :P

I guess that depends.

Saying whether or not you like him or not or think he's a good singer or not has zero to do with if he's overrated or not.

First, you must establish how he is 'rated' before you can say he's over or under rated.

I think the big point people make about Bob Dylan is that he was the voice of his generation, the guy who made it cool to write deep songs instead of just catchy hooks, the guy who influenced just about everyone.

The Beatles were great admirers of Dylan and before Dylan hung out with them in '65 (and smoked them up), they were doing throwaway records. (Yes, the early Beatles work has historical importance, but the songs are less-than-impressive.) Dylan saw their musical and vocal talent and urged Lennon and McCartney to dig deeper with their songwriting.   We all know what happened after that.....

There are almost zero modern artists worth their salt that don't give credit to Dylan when asked about influences in interviews and such.  In fact, almost every artist has covered Bob on record or on the concert stage.

I don't think there is any way you can make a strong case for Dylan being overrated, in that sense, which is why he is so highly regarded.

You could make a case that you don't like his vocal style.
You could make a case that you think he's a jerk for being such a recluse.
You could make a case that you simply don't think he's any good!
Can you make a case that he ISN"T one of the most important figures in modern music and changed the way people think about and create music?  I dare ya!


NOTE: I am a -huge- Bob Dylan fan who has 90-95% of every concert he has ever performed in my archives and who has seen him over 175 times since 1997.   I tried to keep this as unbiased as I could, as I know some people simply don't like the guys tunes -which is fine.

You need to look from it from a diferent perspective, from back then amongst the artist that were...I think was an outstanding songwriter :peace:

Bob Dylan sucks. Is he overrated? Big time. Magazines like Rolling Stone have been swinging from his nutsack for the past 40 years. His son's band The Wallflowers, however, I can kinda dig. Go figure.

I agree with everything you say. I just really "get it" I guess.

No way.

Can't believe somebody said he sucked. That's scary.

He's written so many great songs. It's almost like he's super human.

He derserves all the praise he gets.

If you hear a great song, Dylan probably wrote it.

Hell of a songwriter

Can't sing for shit

Dylan is an icon of the 1960s. He was the voice of a generation.

Ditto. I prefer the covers of his songs done by other artists. KOHD by Guns, of course and AATW by Jimi Hendrix, for example.

Bob Dylan is the greatest songwriter to ever grace the face of this earth.  Simple as that.  If you don't like to hear him singing or if you don't like the STYLES of music he plays.....then just read the words.  Your answer lies right there.  His songs (even his most ludacris strewn together 5 minute pieces) tell stories that relate to so many people. 

Sure Dylan like any other artist suffered from a stale period during the late 70's to the mid 80's but he overcame that and to this day tours harder and more numerous than most acts out there.  He's constantly reinventing his own songs even at this stage in his career.  His voice may not be what it once was, but he still manages to bring out the magic somehow.

Highway 61 Revisted, Blonde on Blonde, Blood on the Tracks, Desire, New Morning, Planet Waves, Bringing It All Back Home....the list keeps going.  Those albums are mindblowing and there's truly something for everyone in one of his albums. 

No, i would say definitely not overrated.  He has a way of telling a story in song that is pretty much unparalleled! (IMO)

and as for the wallflowers, i think they are pretty bland and generic.

Overrated?  Probably not.

Would I ever listen to him?  Probably not.

yes

Heck yeah my buddy bought me a ticket and one for himself for his 2005 Ballpark series tour with Willie Nelson.  $150.  He didnt play his guitar that was tuned up and set next to his microphone at all all night, the set was short, and there was a 1 song encore, for a star with as much material as he had playing ojnly 70-80 minutes made it feel like being cheated out of $150.

Of course he is.  He's a great songwriter, no doubt.  But, for example, RS ranks FOUR of his albums in the top 50 of all time.  And that's just silly. 

Coincidentally (and, no, I'm not making this up) their rankings of the 500 greatest songs ever include:

#1: Bob Dylan's "Like a Rolling Stone"

and

#2: "Satisfaction"...by The Rolling Stones

Talk about using others' work for self promotion!

no. he's a god.

You can't deny his impact on music, especially discussing social issues in music.  However, it's not something I want to pop in the stereo too often.

Exactly my thoughts! To the last word.

Dylan is a legend in historical terms regarding music.  Can't say I play his music around the house though, he really doesn't resonate to my generation like he did to the baby boomers.

I saw him live and he played at least 90-100 minutes.  And who cares if he doesn't play his guitar?  Is that a law or something?

Plus he's over sixty freaking years old.

There were a slue of rumors as to why Dylan stopped playing guitar.....He said in an interview that it was because he couldn't get the full sound out of it he wanted, but real reports from people around him said it was because of a hand injury he suffered that caused some muscle damage hampering his ability on the guitar.  He's been playing it for 2 or 3 songs on the recent tour so maybe he's worked hisself up to it now. 

Yeah i heard the same thing, but i DIDNT hear that he was playing it for two or three songs now.  I could've gotten tickets to see him near me, but i didn't...not enough money, sadly, and now they're sold out.

He still puts on a very good show.

Burn the heretic. ;)

holy fuck, this thread is over a year old.. thought it was like 2 months :P


anyway just watched i'm not there and felt like i dug pretty much every song in it..

so can some fans tell me 3 albums to check out? thanks :beer: :smoking:

*the following resonse is coming from the question in the title*


Yes :yes:

i think he is overrated however not bad either

:peace:

Blonde on Blonde
Highway 61 Revisted
Blood On The Tracks
Desire
Bring It Back Home
John Wesley Harding
The Times They Are A-Changing

Freewheeling, also.

Over rated? I'd be opt to classify him as under rated based on some of the reviews he gets from substantially under-learnt 'critics'
   The idea that he can not sing always has baffled me, as no one ever properly defines 'good singing.'
Granted, over the past years his voice has taken on a slight change (As almost every mid sixty year old vocal ability would) I question whether his songs could be sung any better than the way he has since '61.
The concept of 'good singing' probably should be based upon how well the vocal performance captures the song and pushes towards the ideal as a whole. 
    For instance, if Celion Dion sung Idiot Wind. I'm sure the voice would sound prettier, but is that what one really wants when listening to music? Pretty voices? 
   I've always found people who disapprove of his vocals actually never listened to much of Dylan in the first place.  Usually, the songs they list are from early on from albums such as The times, Freewheelin, Another Side and so on. However (partially bias as you can tell I have placed Dylan somewhere near the Lord) I don't think I have heard better vocals in all of music than on Blood on the Tracks, or Blonde on Blonde.

Plus he rhymed metaphors, who the hell rhymes metaphors?!

Idiot wind, blowing like a circle around my skull
from the Grand Coulee Dam to the Capitol

Sorry, I get overly defensive of the man, deepest apologies.

I dont know if overated is a good word to describe Bob Dylan...but i defintiely dont "get him."  Here is a list of other bands that i dont get that milliions of others do....Dave Matthews, Phish, Grateful Dead, Nickelback, Tool, Foo Fighters, Bruce Springsteen(i like him, but im not amazed by him).....The exteme popularity of these bands confuses me...im not saying they suck im saying that I dont see what is so special about any of them....same goes for Bob Dylan....Im not a huge Ac/dc fan but I understand why people would like them...the bands I listed I am having trouble understanding the attraction...I only bring this up because this Bob Dylan thing was mentioned and he falls in this category for me.

Bob Dylan is Jesus Christ whether you wanna accept it or not

Well Bob is noted for his deep thoughts behind the words he wrote.........(this is a good thing).
He was a heavy thinker. Jim Morrison was a heavy thinker. They are a different form of Art........

....speaking of Art..........tell me..........why is Britney Spears so famous?????  :rofl:

i love soem of his tunes.dont listen to alot of it though.went to see him in the sprinf and it SUCKED . hard core. his new band sucks. he played synth the whole show.all new songs.butchered like a rolling stone . didnt look at anyone.stood still the whole god damn time. highlight of the whole show was the harmonica done by his truly

Recent Dylan shows have been hit and miss, it's hardly the band's fault, they are actually top notch players.
The difference that I've seen has been his attitude on any given night, some songs kill one night, then barely make a flutter the next.  I imagine the crowd also played a factor in the handful of shows I've been to lately, the crowds that got it and loved it seemed to bring something special out of him those nights.
  But back to the band, they're up there not knowing what to expect just like the crowd as the song's tempo/lyrical cues/everything/etc change night to night the same way he's been doing it since the Rolling thunder revue which is probably the time most songs began their drastic overhaul.

He's definitely up there with God for sure...

Bob Dylan has never been a great singer and has never claimed to be, so some people write him off because of that.

The guy has written some of the best albums we will ever hear and he's influenced a countless number of musicians.

I personally think his first albums are the best he's done but a lot of people like his "electric" stuff better. But no, I don't think he's overrated at all. As always, to each their own.

It's all been said, but I'll throw in my 2 cents.... Dylan was a great songwriter but he was/is the world's worst singer, and he's hugely overrated for that.  Basically anybody can perform a Bob Dylan song better than Bob Dylan.  A great example is "Knockin on Heaven's Door" by a certain favorite band of ours....

he used to be a much better singer.... but overall he rules!

Fuck all the people who are enrolled at the "Bob Dylan Can't Sing School of Lameness."

You people have obviously never listened to Nashville Skyline.

You're all just a bunch of followers who never even listen to the tunes and open your big yaps.

Now, fall asleep on an active railroad track.

dylan is not overrated. he's a genius!

The guy must be good, because even with a horrible and unlistenable voice he managed to be on the bizz!

who the fuck cares about being a good singer when you do things in a way that works like fuck?
most of my fav singers aren't really good singers technically.
if you're into that kinda stuff, listen to opera and Steve Vai.
Im not a much of a fan of Dylan, but I get why many people are, and I LIKE his voice! not many people who aren't really fans of him can say that ;D

I like Dylan's voice on "Knockin' On Heaven's Door". He has a desperation or hopelessness in his voice that matches the tone of the song. GNR's cover of it is great also. 

He definitely has a unique voice, which I think is the beauty of his appeal. 'I Want You' is one of my favorites.

Not my favorite artist :no:

A new dylan album is on it's way, some of you may already know!!

check out the new single.. free download on bobdylan.com!   :beer:

I decided not to check out that new song, I want to listen to the whole album in its entirety when it comes out and everything is new. Should be another masterpiece from the man himself.

The thing is that he is important, he wrote some of the greatest lyrics ever in the right place and right time.

His songs expressed what thousands of people were thinking, what thousands of people were trying to say.

Musically (instrumentally), most of his songs are boring and not great, but that's not what he's about. Although a song like Hurricane is amazing.

His voice was unusual and some of you may find it annoying but that was just another thing about him that would  make him even more interesting, it was his charm.

"Together Through Life" drops on Monday. Do you guys think it will be at least as good as or even better than "Modern Times"? Personally I think it will be even better, the man has been on an unstoppable roll in recent years, with each album being better than the last...

acoustic guitars. lots of spakkery talking of lyrics.









(sorry, real crappy ass joke i couldnt resist. please ignore, ill leave ol bob alone now)

I just finished listening to the whole album, and I can honestly say that I haven't been left with such an overwhelmingly happy and positive feeling after listening to an album in a long, long time.  :) I was so pleasantly surprised, because I wasn't sure whether or not to expect another masterpiece since he has already had three in a row, but this album is possibly the best of all the recent ones. Every song has an incredible, unique feel, and I can honestly say I love every single song, which is more than I can say for the other albums. Most of the songs are creative, up-tempo love songs and the slower ones work just as well. I love this album from the first listen, and I look forward to getting to know it even better. I'm all smiles after hearing this album. Good ol' Bob still got it! :)

Opinions on this album? Album of the year?

I really like it, better than the last one too but I can't say which is the album of the year yet...

So, rumor has it good ol' Bob is releasing a Christmas album this holiday season. The man has an extensive history of doing the exact opposite of what people expect or want him to do, and that's why I love him so much ;D I think this should be interesting, to say the least! Thoughts?

Not really into christmas albums but that is kind of strange!

but i am going to see him this week so i can't wait, should be awesome!!!

Hilarious and absurd story about how good ol' Bob recently got arrested by a young police officer who thought he was a homeless person pretending to be Bob Dylan, after some people called the cops on him for thinking he was a homeless person when he was checking out a house for sale in the pouring rain ;D MUST READ!

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=8331830&page=1

[MP3 VBR] Bob Dylan en Argentina 2008: three complete shows

Bob Dylan - vocals, electric guitar, keyboard, harp
Denny Freeman - lead guitar
Donnie Herron - violin, viola, banjo, electric mandolin, pedal steel, lap steel
Stu Kimball - rhythm guitar
George Recile - drums
Tony Garnier - bass

(http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll131/huffmanrethro/BobDylan.jpg)

Bob Dylan
Orfeo Superdomo - C?rdoba, Argentina
March 13, 2008

Disc 1:
01. introduction [00:57]
02. Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat [04:46]
03. It Ain't Me, Babe [05:57]
04. Watching The River Flow [05:03]
05. Love Sick [05:44]
06. Rollin' And Tumblin' [07:22]
07. Spirit On The Water [07:18]
08. High Water (For Charlie Patton) [05:59]
09. Workingman's Blues #2 [07:02]
10. Desolation Row [09:24]
11. Honest With Me [06:43]
12. When The Deal Goes Down [06:22]

Disc 2:
01. Highway 61 Revisited [06:08]
02. Ain't Talkin' [08:22]
03. Summer Days [05:35]
04. Like A Rolling Stone [09:35]
(encore)
05. Thunder On The Mountain [07:17]
06. band introduction [00:54]
07. Blowin' In The Wind [06:19]

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Bob Dylan
Estadio Velez Sarsfield - Buenos Aires, Argentina
March 15, 2008

Disc 1:
01. introduction [01:24]
02. Rainy Day Women #12 & 35 [04:08]
03. Lay, Lady, Lay [04:38]
04. Watching The River Flow [04:41]
05. Masters Of War [05:41]
06. The Levee's Gonna Break [06:46]
07. Spirit On The Water [07:11]
08. Things Have Changed [06:32]
09. Workingman's Blues #2 [07:04]
10. Just Like A Woman [07:35]
11. Honest With Me [06:37]
12. When The Deal Goes Down [06:27]

Disc 2:
01. Highway 61 Revisited [06:12]
02. Nettie Moore [07:37]
03. Summer Days [05:49]
04. Like A Rolling Stone [10:50]
(encore)
05. Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again [06:43]
06. band introduction [00:34]
07. All Along The Watchtower [05:36]
08. Blowin' In The Wind [07:38]

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Bob Dylan
Hipodromo - Rosario, Argentina
March 18, 2008

Disc 1:
01. introduction [01:10]
02. Cat's In The Well [04:03]
03. Don't Think Twice, It's All Right [05:56]
04. I'll Be Your Baby Tonight [05:16]
05. Masters Of War [05:33]
06. Rollin' And Tumblin' [07:19]
07. It's Alright, Ma (I'm Only Bleeding) [07:21]
08. Spirit On The Water [07:50]
09. John Brown [05:36]
10. Workingman's Blues #2 [07:19]
11. Highway 61 Revisited [06:34]
12. When The Deal Goes Down [06:17]

Disc 2:
01. This Wheel's On Fire [06:48]
02. Most Likely You Go Your Way (And I'll Go Mine) [06:23]
03. Summer Days [06:23]
04. Like A Rolling Stone [10:33]
(encore)
05. Rainy Day Women #12 & 35 [06:42]
06. All Along The Watchtower [08:26]

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03/13/2008: http://rapidshare.com/files/278367208/bd2008-03-13-estebanf.rar

03/15/2008: http://rapidshare.com/files/278389877/bd2008-03-15-estebanf.rar

03/18/2008: http://rapidshare.com/files/278409200/bd2008-03-18-estebanf.rar

estebanf
http://www.estebanfbootlegs.com.ar/

Sorry to bring up the old topic of "Together Through Life" from back in April, but I bought it when it came out and kind of shrugged it off.  Recently not sure if I've been in a holiday funk or what, but I was listening to Bob's Christmas album and then this came on my ipod and it really really like fit the mood I've been in.  I totally have fallen in love with Together and I think it is definitely an amazing album.  Way to go Boberto!  Definitely you guys should give this one another listen if you didn't love it at first!

another ive been super wrong and ignorant about
bought the essential bob dylan and wow, blown away

so anything retarded i ever said, delete please.

gonna pick up his newer albums now.

nice, D!

get some of his older ones too like Desire, Blood on the Tracks, Highway 61 revisited, blonde on blonde, and bringing it all back home. they are great!!!

pretty cool what u discover later on.. i use to be one of these against Dylan etc

actually made myself listen and WOW.. wish i had discovered this earlier.

right on man, that is awesome when that happens.  i just read his bio and he is such an amazing person and such a good songwriter!!  got some good shows in this year too :)

Bob Dylan recording new album

http://www.nme.com/news/bob-dylan/62546


It's amazing how prolific this guy is.  i don't know how he does it!

cool, i'll check it out. i've only really listened to the 60's records + desire and blood on the tracks.

New album is due on 9/11!

http://www.bobdylan.com/us/tempest-press-release

Greatest lyricist of all time, with no close second. He's a freak!