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Title: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: greekmule on June 26, 2006, 07:00:01 AM
http://www.mad.tv/news/?id=21764


this is an article about gnr requirements regarding their show in athens on july 10th.

i will attemt to translate it

*4 trucks and 6 tour buses will be used in order to move the equipment and the gnr crew which consists of 80 people

*band members travel by liar jets and limos

*the show will have pyrotechniks(sp?)  and confetti

*every band member will have his own room backstage with airconditioning

*Axl and the band members requested a yard backstage in order to relax :rofl:

*Axl's room backstage will be white with lots of roses and 150 black towels :rofl:

*Axl's room backstage will have lots of tv screens so that Axl can watch fans gettin inside the venue as well as the reactions of fans in the front rows

*gnr have asked for a dressing room and have employed a 'tailor" who will solve clothe-related problems

*gnr will look for second hand guitars and want the keybord technician to be at all times with them


that's about it-sorry for the translation mistakes : ok:


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: NicoRourke on June 26, 2006, 07:04:42 AM
Screens to watch the front rows reaction ? Maybe Axl likes to see people getting pissed off by his late thing :rofl:

Sounds a bit strange to me ... More prima dona shit ? I mean, white room, roses and a 150 black towels ? Come on ...

Thankx anyway : ok:


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: nycangel on June 26, 2006, 08:05:25 AM
most of those requests are really strange but also kind of funny, i mean their rockstars for godsakes, what the hell does axl need roses and black towels for? dont get me wrong i love these guys but come on...


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: Solidius on June 26, 2006, 08:14:14 AM
Axl needs M&M's with all the brown ones removed!


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: Tomorrows on June 26, 2006, 08:19:12 AM
LOL. Whatever he needs to get level I guess - hes got the money to do it so why should we care how he spends it?


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: BKinNYC on June 26, 2006, 08:39:53 AM
The funniest request to me is the tailor for "clothes related issues."  They've worn the same things at all of the shows!   That tailor has the easiest job in the world!    :hihi:


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: Refused on June 26, 2006, 08:44:00 AM
I found some backstage requirements online. Not sure when these are from though.

(http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/packageart/backstagetour/gunsnroses1.gif)

(http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/packageart/backstagetour/gunsnroses2.gif)


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: Origen on June 26, 2006, 08:47:50 AM
They are from the Illusion tour ^


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on June 26, 2006, 08:59:50 AM
the backstage in Paris were shitty ahahh :)


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: metallex78 on June 26, 2006, 09:31:38 AM
Yeah, that looks like it's from the UYI tour days, because James Hetfield reads off a bunch of those in one of Metallica's home videos from the Metallica/GN'R tour.

Having said that, I don't want to turn this into anti-Metallica thread, I just thought I'd point out when I think these Axl backstage requirements might be from.


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: horsey on June 26, 2006, 11:04:47 AM
you just gotta love a list like this lol.how bout black towels with white stains on them lol.eeeewwww grosssssss lol'


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: dolphin on June 26, 2006, 11:21:01 AM
why doesn't Axl take some of his money and help out the less fortunate instead of spending it on roses and other shit.



Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: ppbebe on June 26, 2006, 11:35:29 AM
Cos it should help florists, floriculturists etc. That's not as cold as charity. : ok:


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: Catt on June 26, 2006, 11:59:11 AM
why doesn't Axl take some of his money and help out the less fortunate instead of spending it on roses and other shit.



I keep wondering myself  ??? ::) another life, another chance  :hihi:


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: IloveGnR on June 26, 2006, 12:05:30 PM
Yeah...Axl is on to something...black towels are a good idea that way you know if they have ever been gizzed on....I'm throwing out all my towels and buying nothing but black ones :rofl:


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: wells on June 26, 2006, 12:12:36 PM
why doesn't Axl take some of his money and help out the less fortunate instead of spending it on roses and other shit.



well you are making a judgement on an unconfirmed article, you are creating your opinion without knowing the facts and in the end it is totally Axl's private thing what he does or does not.  :no: maybe he gives all the towels to charity after he (ab)uses them each night  :hihi:


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: ppbebe on June 26, 2006, 12:24:11 PM
Yep, in this article, whether it's true or joke, there're two things I don't quite get.

1)Why should the towels be black?

2)Why do they look for second hand guitars and not new ones? Are these to smash on the stage?

Quote
Axl's room backstage will have lots of tv screens so that Axl can watch fans gettin inside the venue as well as the reactions of fans in the front rows

Be warned, You're under watch! :hihi:


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: chineseblues on June 26, 2006, 02:03:34 PM
2)Why do they look for second hand guitars and not new ones? Are these to smash on the stage?

Maybe they are gonna do a photoshoot there and need the guitars to smash for that.


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: ppbebe on June 26, 2006, 02:14:04 PM
2)Why do they look for second hand guitars and not new ones? Are these to smash on the stage?

Maybe they are gonna do a photoshoot there and need the guitars to smash for that.

and maybe they are shooting a video with the volcanos for a background. :D


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: Captain P?l on June 26, 2006, 05:45:58 PM
why doesn't Axl take some of his money and help out the less fortunate instead of spending it on roses and other shit.



because its the venue that are paying this, not him or the band....

thats atleast how i know a rider work....


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: Scabbie on June 26, 2006, 05:51:38 PM
why doesn't Axl take some of his money and help out the less fortunate instead of spending it on roses and other shit.



the last time he did that the dolphins got greedy and wanted their own multi million dollar music video  :P


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: greekmule on June 26, 2006, 06:16:50 PM
"he would like to spend some more time with the boys in the yard, but he has to perform his ritual...

he mumbles c u later and then walks towards his room. he takes a shower and then stands in the middle of his white room naked- just him and 150 black towels which later will be used to dry his body.

he takes his time as the chants of the wild fans get louder..."

ps Axl if u are reading this its all love.please play TWAT in athens :peace:


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: pebbles on June 26, 2006, 07:23:04 PM
black towels, roses,yards, :rofl: hes so funny,


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: Axl8302 on June 26, 2006, 08:36:15 PM
why doesn't Axl take some of his money and help out the less fortunate instead of spending it on roses and other shit.



well how do you know he doesn't?? I remember reading before, and you'll like this..that he gave alot of money to a dolphin charity. i don't have a link, it's been in in my head for years. Also didn't he give money from the SPI to charles mason victims (family members) or something???


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: rbudrick on July 05, 2006, 11:13:39 AM
Folks, I can make perfect sense of the outlandish requests that rockstars like Axl make.  It's all very simple.  There's approximately 1, 000, 000, 000, 002 things that can go wrong at a show, ruining it for all the fans.  A major piece of equipment could fail, a plug could be plugged in the wrong way, a piece of euipment could get packed wrong, destroying it, an instrument could be plugged into the wrong board, etc., etc., etc.  The shows are extremely carefully pre-planned and must be followed to the letter.  The reason those lavish things are on the contract is to prove that the venue and the show organizer READ THE DAMN CONTRACT.  If they did not read the contract, then all those things that could go wrong at the show probably will.  If they don't read the contract, the performer could get into a LOT of trouble....not only with the fans if the show goes wrong, but financially if there's a disaster, and even physically if there's a riot or he/she gets electrocuted because some jerk didn't read the fine print.   These lavish things in the contract are for YOUR benefit, the fans.  There's just far too much on the line for a show to have something major go wrong, so these things are all safeguards against that sort of thing.  It is simply far too dangerous to NOT have these things in a contract.  They insure the safety of the performer and the entertainment of the fans.

-Rob


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: McGann on July 05, 2006, 11:54:12 AM
Folks, I can make perfect sense of the outlandish requests that rockstars like Axl make.? It's all very simple.? There's approximately 1, 000, 000, 000, 002 things that can go wrong at a show, ruining it for all the fans.? A major piece of equipment could fail, a plug could be plugged in the wrong way, a piece of euipment could get packed wrong, destroying it, an instrument could be plugged into the wrong board, etc., etc., etc.? The shows are extremely carefully pre-planned and must be followed to the letter.? The reason those lavish things are on the contract is to prove that the venue and the show organizer READ THE DAMN CONTRACT.? If they did not read the contract, then all those things that could go wrong at the show probably will.? If they don't read the contract, the performer could get into a LOT of trouble....not only with the fans if the show goes wrong, but financially if there's a disaster, and even physically if there's a riot or he/she gets electrocuted because some jerk didn't read the fine print.? ?These lavish things in the contract are for YOUR benefit, the fans.? There's just far too much on the line for a show to have something major go wrong, so these things are all safeguards against that sort of thing.? It is simply far too dangerous to NOT have these things in a contract.? They insure the safety of the performer and the entertainment of the fans.

-Rob

Thank God for this guy!
This IS why they do this stuff
So says Van Halen.

Trying to write that
All in the form of haiku
Would have been quite hard!

Splash

/Mike


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: Where is Hassan Nasrallah ? on July 05, 2006, 12:10:13 PM
I remember reading before, and you'll like this..that he gave alot of money to a dolphin charity.

ahahahah ahahahah ahahahaa ahha.

aha ah.


ah.

funny.


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: 25 on July 05, 2006, 01:01:57 PM
why doesn't Axl take some of his money and help out the less fortunate instead of spending it on roses and other shit.


He employs a crew of around 100 other people. He's helping 100 other less fortunate people just by doing his job. How many less fortunate people did you help today just by existing? Not 100, I'm guessing. 100 people and their families have food and clothes, money for bills and mortgages and loan repayments, just because GNR are touring. That goes a little further than your $5 donation to the salvation army, 'kay? 'Kay.


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: 25 on July 05, 2006, 01:10:58 PM


1)Why should the towels be black?


I'd guess it's so that you can tell that they're new, and not the promoter's hand-me-downs. Same for the amount, 150, no-one has 150 towels laying around and certainly not 150 black ones. You'd be forced to go and buy them. And so, Axl gets a clean, unused towel. And 149 spares. Because it's hot under those lights, dammit! Also, put them all in a pile and you've got a makeshift matress! It's way cheaper for the promoter to buy 150 black towels than to buy a king-sized bed. I'd rather ask for the bed though, because you can tell it's new and unused because it's wrapped in plastic. Actually, I'd ask for 150 black california king-size beds and I'd bring my own towel.


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: padje on July 05, 2006, 05:13:06 PM
In Nijmegen Axl was still going strong on the botlles of Evian, maybe his rider hasn't changed that much since the 90's... I'd like to see this years btw...


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: AxlFink on July 05, 2006, 05:34:44 PM
i wish i could make a list like this when my band plays.  im lucky if the clubs give me a beer.  My girlfriend doesnt even give me a blow job after the show.  Fuck.   


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: LaTeRaLuS on July 05, 2006, 05:36:38 PM
women eh!


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: faldor on July 05, 2006, 05:53:29 PM
I found some backstage requirements online. Not sure when these are from though.

(http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/packageart/backstagetour/gunsnroses1.gif)

(http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/packageart/backstagetour/gunsnroses2.gif)

That looks a lot like my grocery list.


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: LookingThruThisPOV on July 05, 2006, 10:54:37 PM
why doesn't Axl take some of his money and help out the less fortunate instead of spending it on roses and other shit.

For that matter, why doesn't he sell his Ferrari, his crib and all the rights to his music and give it all to the poor?? Why stop at roses and towels?? ? :confused:

I am by no means an Axl apologist, but he's earned his money.? He'll spend it as he sees fit.? The taxes he's paid alone probably contribute to more charitable causes than any of us ever will...


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: Bravefish on July 06, 2006, 12:00:39 AM
why doesn't Axl take some of his money and help out the less fortunate instead of spending it on roses and other shit.

For that matter, why doesn't he sell his Ferrari, his crib and all the rights to his music and give it all to the poor?? Why stop at roses and towels?? ? :confused:

I am by no means an Axl apologist, but he's earned his money.? He'll spend it as he sees fit.? The taxes he's paid alone probably contribute to more charitable causes than any of us ever will...

rock on

fish


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: Kitty on July 06, 2006, 02:45:53 AM
I am by no means an Axl apologist, but he's earned his money.  He'll spend it as he sees fit.  The taxes he's paid alone probably contribute to more charitable causes than any of us ever will...
His property taxes alone are more than most people make in a year.


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: estranged2006 on July 06, 2006, 04:38:13 AM
what about his oxygen mask and tanks? haha someone should fill switch the air tanks with a heelium tanks!!

150 towells! thats to many towels. what does he gonna do with all those towels? and why would Chris Pitman or Dizzy need thier own rooms? all members ned thier own rooms? hahah why dont they share so they can talk about the show!!!

axl wants to watch the front row to see who has a slash shirt so he can throw them away from the shows!!


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: Albert S Miller on July 06, 2006, 12:21:10 PM
Yeah, that looks like it's from the UYI tour days, because James Hetfield reads off a bunch of those in one of Metallica's home videos from the Metallica/GN'R tour.

Having said that, I don't want to turn this into anti-Metallica thread, I just thought I'd point out when I think these Axl backstage requirements might be from.
this is where it is from, I have the Metallica video where all the bashing takes place in regards to this


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: Poof! on July 07, 2006, 03:11:46 AM
Artists' diva behavior and requests are basically based on the "cuz I can" rule. There's one thing that always struck me as weird. When you start out in a band, you're lucky if you get a case of beer and a sandwich at the club you're playing, yet you put on a show and you do it and it's all great and fun. Then they sell a couple of million records and all of a sudden they need all this stupid shit and make ridiculous demands. I mean, I understand if you want a decent meal and some drinks and stuff, but 150 black towels?

But I'm not talking about just Axl, I'm talking about a lot of artists. The whole "the couch needs to be white leather or else I'll be unhappy" thing always seemed idiotic to me.

Rockstars or not, they're all spoiled babies.


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: Thorne on July 07, 2006, 05:47:13 AM
what about his oxygen mask and tanks? haha someone should fill switch the air tanks with a heelium tanks!!

150 towells! thats to many towels. what does he gonna do with all those towels? and why would Chris Pitman or Dizzy need thier own rooms? all members ned thier own rooms? hahah why dont they share so they can talk about the show!!!

axl wants to watch the front row to see who has a slash shirt so he can throw them away from the shows!!

Riiight....so then everyone can go back to complaining about his voice.....yeah that's really funny! ::)

I really do despair about alot of people's sense of humour around here....


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: Lara on July 07, 2006, 06:36:20 PM
I know for a fact there is no such thing as 150 towels in his dressing room.


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: jsg2295 on July 07, 2006, 08:46:19 PM
Maybe he needed 150 black towels because he was going backstage in grease.


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: Minneapolisnewsman on July 07, 2006, 11:10:40 PM
Folks, I can make perfect sense of the outlandish requests that rockstars like Axl make.? It's all very simple.? There's approximately 1, 000, 000, 000, 002 things that can go wrong at a show, ruining it for all the fans.? A major piece of equipment could fail, a plug could be plugged in the wrong way, a piece of euipment could get packed wrong, destroying it, an instrument could be plugged into the wrong board, etc., etc., etc.? The shows are extremely carefully pre-planned and must be followed to the letter.? The reason those lavish things are on the contract is to prove that the venue and the show organizer READ THE DAMN CONTRACT.? If they did not read the contract, then all those things that could go wrong at the show probably will.? If they don't read the contract, the performer could get into a LOT of trouble....not only with the fans if the show goes wrong, but financially if there's a disaster, and even physically if there's a riot or he/she gets electrocuted because some jerk didn't read the fine print.? ?These lavish things in the contract are for YOUR benefit, the fans.? There's just far too much on the line for a show to have something major go wrong, so these things are all safeguards against that sort of thing.? It is simply far too dangerous to NOT have these things in a contract.? They insure the safety of the performer and the entertainment of the fans.

-Rob

Glad to know Sanctuary Group is reading the board! :hihi:


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: McGann on July 09, 2006, 12:42:26 AM
Artists' diva behavior and requests are basically based on the "cuz I can" rule. There's one thing that always struck me as weird. When you start out in a band, you're lucky if you get a case of beer and a sandwich at the club you're playing, yet you put on a show and you do it and it's all great and fun. Then they sell a couple of million records and all of a sudden they need all this stupid shit and make ridiculous demands. I mean, I understand if you want a decent meal and some drinks and stuff, but 150 black towels?

But I'm not talking about just Axl, I'm talking about a lot of artists. The whole "the couch needs to be white leather or else I'll be unhappy" thing always seemed idiotic to me.

Rockstars or not, they're all spoiled babies.


OK...I'm breaking my haiku thing THIS ONCE.
Van Halen put it best in reply to questions about their infamous "no brown M&M" rule.
Their stage setup was very heavy, and required that there be certain modifications to the stage itself to support their sets.? If these modififcations were not made for each show, the result could be a literal stage collapse, risking injury or death to band and fans alike.? If the promoters read the contract and followed it to the letter, and there were no brown M&Ms in the bowl, then the odds were that all other parts of the contract had been read and complied with.? If, on the other hand, there WERE brown M&Ms in the bowl, then obviously part of the contract had been skipped or ignored.? If one part is ignored, then what else may be?? Would the stage construction be within tolerances?? It can't be risked.? It wasn't a diva thing...it was, and is, a very real safety issue.?
If there aren't precisely 150 towels, as outlined in the contract, then how can one be sure that the precise required voltages are figured correctly?? That pyro is set up in the EXACT places where bandmembers expect it, and know not to step, and not two inches away, in a possible danger zone?
It's less of an "I'll be unhappy" thing than a "How can we be sure the important things are handled as outlined" thing.?
God, it feels weird not to post in haiku.? Not used to it here anymore!!!!? :P
OK.? Back to my normal style.

Not a diva thing.
Little things being done right
Means big things have, too.

Splash

/Mike



Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: AxlsMainMan on July 10, 2006, 10:45:12 AM
Artists' diva behavior and requests are basically based on the "cuz I can" rule. There's one thing that always struck me as weird. When you start out in a band, you're lucky if you get a case of beer and a sandwich at the club you're playing, yet you put on a show and you do it and it's all great and fun. Then they sell a couple of million records and all of a sudden they need all this stupid shit and make ridiculous demands. I mean, I understand if you want a decent meal and some drinks and stuff, but 150 black towels?

But I'm not talking about just Axl, I'm talking about a lot of artists. The whole "the couch needs to be white leather or else I'll be unhappy" thing always seemed idiotic to me.

Rockstars or not, they're all spoiled babies.


OK...I'm breaking my haiku thing THIS ONCE.
Van Halen put it best in reply to questions about their infamous "no brown M&M" rule.
Their stage setup was very heavy, and required that there be certain modifications to the stage itself to support their sets.? If these modififcations were not made for each show, the result could be a literal stage collapse, risking injury or death to band and fans alike.? If the promoters read the contract and followed it to the letter, and there were no brown M&Ms in the bowl, then the odds were that all other parts of the contract had been read and complied with.? If, on the other hand, there WERE brown M&Ms in the bowl, then obviously part of the contract had been skipped or ignored.? If one part is ignored, then what else may be?? Would the stage construction be within tolerances?? It can't be risked.? It wasn't a diva thing...it was, and is, a very real safety issue.?
If there aren't precisely 150 towels, as outlined in the contract, then how can one be sure that the precise required voltages are figured correctly?? That pyro is set up in the EXACT places where bandmembers expect it, and know not to step, and not two inches away, in a possible danger zone?
It's less of an "I'll be unhappy" thing than a "How can we be sure the important things are handled as outlined" thing.?
God, it feels weird not to post in haiku.? Not used to it here anymore!!!!? :P
OK.? Back to my normal style.

Not a diva thing.
Little things being done right
Means big things have, too.

Splash

/Mike



Thanks alot for the insight Mike.

Seems like a pretty smart plan the more you think about it.. :hihi:


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: rbudrick on July 10, 2006, 03:13:45 PM
Yeah, my post on page 2 is pretty much what Mike said.

-Rob


Title: Re: gnr backstage in greece
Post by: McGann on July 10, 2006, 03:22:47 PM
Yeah, my post on page 2 is pretty much what Mike said.

-Rob

Yep!  I quoted you
When I posted about this
Right after you did. : ok:

Splash

/Mike