Here Today... Gone To Hell!

I was reading some info about manson the full band and it claimed twiggy was arrested for this; is it true?

It was from a christian site btw that was 'exposing' the evil of marilyn manson and his abuse of women and influence on kids.

I hope this is bullshit but i don't know much about the band really apart from reading some of his book(mm's) and having the greatest hits.

never heard that....but ya know there is sooo much rumors surrounding MM and gang it's hard to even destinguish fact from reality sometimes...especially with crazy activist types i'd be skeptical unless you can find proof elsewhere I'm sure that if a member of marylin manson's band was a convicted child molester that you could find more legit sources of info on the subject ;)

exactly what i thought.

maybe bullshit.

didn't manson say he's done some sick shit in his autobiography?

again he's got a reputation to live up to....or fabricate...whatever you wanna believe :peace:

Its going to be lies of course.

Christian websites arnt exactly gonna be in favour of marilyn manson

yeah its bullshit i'm a manson fan and i never heard anything about this.

the christian sites make up TONS of shit about Manson, its ridiclous, i've seen it. don't believe everything u hear.

Manson's father molested Twiggy supposedly. I don't know if Twiggy molested a kid but I wouldn't be surprised. They're a fucked-up bunch!

twiggy was a character though, right? the real man is less weird

yeah, he's kinda toned everyting down a bit, hes toured with Nine Inch Nails and is referred to as Jeordie White now.

Even on stage, hes much more reserved than his Manson days...

Manson's done a lot of sick shit but nothing even remotely close to molesting a kid. He's not a petaphile or I wouldn't listen to his music at all.  IF IT WAS TRUE that Twiggy molested a kid, I don't know how I would feel about listening to older Manson anymore. I fucking hate petaphiles and everything they are involved in. Twiggy used to do almost all the music in the studio for Manson's albums, up until the last one because he was no longer in the band.  I really doubt this is true though. He's a member of A Perfect Circle (is APC still a band?) and I don't know too many people that would want a petaphile in their band.

Is it possible they have confused Twiggy with the drummer from Judas Priest - he did get arrested and sentenced for absuing a boy

yeah i feel the same.

i'm probably going to buy a manson album; what should i get?

Which album should you get?? Hmmmm... It really depends on who you ask I guess.  I think a good first Manson album might be Mechanical Animals.  Anti-Christ Superstar is probably one of the heaviest, if that suits you more, although they are all heavy most of the time. Holy Wood is a great album and would be a good choice as well.  I like the newest one but some people aren't too fond of it at all.  You could always just go with the Greatest Hits if you wanted to hear some tunes from all the albums.  I guess maybe I'm not the best person to ask because I'm a big fan of Manson and like everything. If you ever want some demos, rare and unreleased songs, live shows, B-sides, Mansons first recordings, etc. you can PM me.  Just go buy Mechanical Animals and see how you like it, you won't be letdown.

MECHANICAL ANIMALS

his best musically and lyrically, also the most accessible in my opinion...

by the way we do have a manson thread....

hey i've got a request, check your PM box, we can trade!! : ok:

Just out of curiosity, could you provide a link?That site sounds like a hillarious read.

Also, when it comes to backstage enviroment, child molestation needs to be redifined.:p
If you are a rockstar on drugs and some hot little slut is putting it out for you, so to speak, i bet you don't ask for an ID that often. Surely entire gallons of rockstars have fucked girls who are under 16.Come to think of it, I'd be a bit surprised if Twigs wasn't a child molester.
Hell,I bet atleast half of the old GNR are aswell, if  you want to define the term "child molestation" as a sexual act done to someone who is under 16.

Just google the evil of marliyn manson and you will find the site. It's made by a former kkk member and religious nut!
He's says twiggy was arrested for molesting a young boy!

There is a difference in having sex with a minor and molesting someone against their will!

Well if you're looking at child molestation that way, everyone in rock is a child molester.  But that's not how I was thinking of it at all. I would think that ALL of these girls lie about their age or at least have fake ID's because a lot of bands THESE DAYS (Bands that wanna fuck) would probably not allow ANYONE under the age of 18 backstage after a show, for those exact reasons anyway.  A petaphile to me is someone that either touches or has sex with a young person or a young child.  Regardless of the definition, I think it's different to have sex with a 16 year old girl that says and looks like she's 18 or older (She's bringing it on herself too), than to be fondling an 8 year old boy, like so many of these sick fucks in this world get away with. I won't say anymore because I don't want this to turn into something other than what this thread is about.

Yeah, of course  i agree. You can't really  compare fucking some willing  15.8 year old vixen with her sisters ID and doing somethign horrible to some 8 year old.
I would guess former is child molestation by definition aswell though.
Ehh was just saying, if you want to use the term "child molestation" in certain way, you propably have a strong case against most rock stars, including poor ol Twigs:p

Think this is the site OP i referring to:p
http://www.johnnyleeclary.com/manson.htm

It's fun as hell, after just 5 min browse through the massive amount of hard "evidence" you can come agross the following gems:)

Manson Murdered these little girls[picture here]
 
Cassie Bernall (left) and Rachel Scott (right) were two of Manson's victims. It was because of his influence and telling those two killers at Columbine to murder Christians that these two little girls lost their lives.

Twiggy Rameriez , one of Manson's band members was arrested for molesting a little boy. Manson and Twiggy have frequently kissed and fondled each other at concerts. Marilyn Manson and Trent Reznor of satanic band "Nine Inch Nails" had sexual intercourse.

MANSON IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COLUMBINE HIGH SCHOOL MASSACRE


And last but not least:

In the PoaAF days, Marilyn Manson demanded that kitty litter be placed on the floor of his dressing room, so he could relieve himself anywhere.

All of the claims are utter bullshit, Well..last one..I really hope it is true, Gotta love the mental image:)

I went to the page and read a lot of it. I can't believe all of the stupid and FALSE rumors he actually has listed on the page.  So many things on that page said about Manson are so untrue.  Most of the shit that he says happened, has never happened. It pisses me off.  I've heard all of these dumb rumors before and the one that really pisses me off is when he says that Manson threw a little puppy into the audience and ORDERED THE CROWD TO RIP IT APART AND RUB THE BLOOD ON THEMSELVES. Whatever.  I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT SHIT NEVER FUCKING HAPPENED. Fuck the guy that runs that page. He's a fucking hypocrite because if he was really SO CHRISTIAN, he wouldn't be telling lies on his website about other people.  The whole website is a joke.  The part in the beginning of the Manson page that's talking about how "Johnny Clary's emails are screened and he won't EVER read any hate mail, so don't send any, blah blah blah..." Then it goes on to say in that same section, "If you are mentally retartded and can't understand this, then feel free wasting your time and sending email that will not be read."  Yeah, that's real Christian. Fuck that guy!!  He's a pathetic excuse for a human.

Apparently it really is a perfectly legimate sub-site of some Christian fanatic. It's so hard to accept that it isn't a joke. The pathetic layout,huuuuge  yellow text..some of the claims...it's all so far out ;).

If someone is so passionately against Manson, why "ruin" it with all that crap?Only the most misguided out of touch soccer moms can be expected to take some of the bullshit on that site seriously.
Any devoted&old fashioned Christian could easily create a very "serious" and completely bullshit free  Anti-Manson site that could actually make atleast some people view Manson in a new light.He(Manson) has certainly provided enough material for that  over the years.

Manson does love controversy though. It's hard to imagine him being bothered at all if some people actually buy utter shit like that site.
I bet he misses the amount of anger,protestors and the pure fuzz that surrounded him in mid/late 90's.
The day he realized mommies are warning their daughters of Eminem instead of him must have been  sad and depressing.

Yeah, but lets not forget that he had his bottom ribs removed so he can suck himself off. Also he was Paul on The Wonder Years. Oh, and he chopped the feet off a hamster.

"Marilyn Manson and Trent Reznor of satanic band "Nine Inch Nails" had sexual intercourse."
Haaaha. Great.

"All email is screened. Johnny does not read any hate email. All hate email is deleted without Johnny seeing it.  You are wasting your time writing email to Johnny criticizing what he has written on Manson, because he will NEVER see it. However, if you are mentally retarded and can not understand this, then feel free to waste your time sending email that will not be read or answered. If you don't like what is written, no one forces you to come to this page!"

If only MTV.com said the same thing.