Here Today... Gone To Hell!

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5M94L4LX
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Ok, here are 6 links to a shitload of rare material by Guns. Enjoy! :beer:
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Awesome man, thanks...

Do you mind throwing together a list of whats on each CD if you dont mind?
Reason being is I probably have 90 percent of it and dont really want to waste hardrive space..

thanks again :beer:

Actually...there are way too many songs there for me to do that. Just download it and keep what you want. I have alot of GNR but I guarantee you that there are songs here you probably dont have. For instance...Dont Cry Demo version with the original band ...Too Much Too Soon, Civil War (Demo) 

flac or mp3

mp3  :o :rofl:

Thats fine. I have both of those btw ;)

thanks man, im downloading as we speak.  : ok:

Thanks man, gonna check these out in a bit!  : ok:

No problem. I will upload a few other things when I get the chance.
Check this out for example. It's Hammerstein Ballroom NYC. First night. Video.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VKFMAR70
I have the whole show.

Oh my God!!!! What if it's mp3?? WHAT AM I GOING TO DO??  I WILL DIE!!!!  NOOOOOOO!!!!!!  DIE MP3!!!!!!  Christ.

EDIT: When will the 'Time' run out of that 'Bomb'?? BOOOOOOOM!!!!!  No more timebomb.  :-[  Thanks by the way FlimFlam, we all (well all but one) really, really appreciate it.

Why even ask "flac or mp3" ovbiously its not flac. a dumbass can figure out its not flac. 1 cd set is 90mb. duh! especially someone whos life if about collecting bootlegs should know this!

also rude to just post "flac or mp3" first, make a complete sentence, second maybe u can thank the person?

jesus crist.

I just want to thank you for typing everything I was thinking! :peace:

And thank you flimflam for sharing!  Maybe if we had a little less negativity from "certain members" about the format in which things are shared we would get people to share more.  If it's not up to your standards why not just NOT DOWNLOAD IT instead of coming onto the thread and making rude commentary?  You obviously already know the answer to the question you are asking and it seems to me you are only setting up to make more comments after the question is answered.

I think Timebomb just did an inoffensive question. In fact, I would also like to know it that is lossy or lossless.

You can upload flac to megaupload, and you can upload very big files if you have a premium account. I dont know why you get that mad for just a question.

If the uploader says ''mp3'', I will say ''thanks'' and simply leave this thread. If that is FLAC, i may probably download those files.

What is the problem? I will be thankful anyway, no matter if it is lossy or lossless. Calm down

Mp3 Except for one AVI file from Hammerstein Ballroom NYC.

Beacause 1 CD set is 90mb. How can that be a FLAC?
And the way he does is it always rude. He just comes on, lazy, asking "flac or mp3" he doesnt ever show respect, he expects things to be handed to him on a silver platter.

Yeah, this is the first time I have posted anything on this forum..and I do think it's kind of rude myself. It's obvious what kind of file it is. Why ask, unless your just trying to make a point out of the fact that it's not lossless audio. Which I have plenty of..I just decided to post these first to see how it goes. And..uh..its going somewhere alright. ???

EFISH already said it, so I don't need to. Also one of the problems is that he has NEVER BEEN THANKFUL FOR ANYTHING ANYONE HAS DONE FOR HIM!!!!  I've seen people upload something he requested and it wasn't EXACTLY what he was looking for and he doesn't even give a thanks to them for their time and effort. He just gives them the cold shoulder and makes a dumb ass fucking remark about it.  All he does is fucking complain about everything and it's so annoying and uncalled for and most of the people on this board are sick of hearing his shit. I don't care what he shares with us or has shared with us, it doesn't give him the right to be a complete fuck head to people for no reason. It's one big pity party for him all the time and nobody feels bad for him because he brings the shit on himself.  And to FLIMFLAM, don't ever worry about what Timebomb says or the stupid comments he might make about shit you have uploaded for us, he is just in another world and will never be in the reality that we all live in. We are very grateful for the time you took to upload these, as I'm sure there will be a few, or even many songs that some of us don't have.

Don't take offense to what he said, flim - we appreciate you sharing this with us!  :peace:
I love FLAC as much as the next person, but I'll take MP3s any day of the week for personal use!

about timebomb: well, maybe he was asking not that nicely, but just one thing. how sould he know it's mp3 or not if he doesn't ask? how should he know one file is about 90mb? he's not a clairvoyant, is he? so give the guy a break.

in generell: it's awesome from flimflaking to share stuff. it's totally appreciated, but at least he could write some specs about the stuff. not everyone has a broadband connection and can't afford to download stuff, which he/she doesn't know what it is.

All he has to do is click the little red link and check the size on megaupload.  It says 90 MB right there on the first page and even has the disc name, which in the first case was 'Disc 1 1985-1987.'  What more specs do you need than that?? The guy was doing us all a favor and if he is willing to just give all that stuff away to be nice, all he has to do in my book is put the links and tell us what the links are, which he said, "Guns N' Roses Rarities".  We may not all have broadband connections, but it doesn't take much effort to click the link and see how big the file is. If he says there's too much stuff to type out all of the CD's tracklistings, then so be it. He's giving it away without it even being requested!!  Why ask for anymore than he has already been nice enough to give??

i am thankful when it is flac the best there is when it is mp3 low quality crap never thankful i just will not be for low quality when u can upload good stuff

flimflam I have to ask after your post edit, is this MP3?  Just kidding! :peace:

Timebomb, leave the thread if you don't want it, k?

when the mp3 leave i will stop flac is the only thing needs put up not low quality shit p3's

See this is why nobody can stand you. For as smart as you seem to be, there is no way in hell that you can tell the difference between FLAC and mp3, NO WAY IN HELL!!!!  You couldn't even figure out if these were mp3 or FLAC on your own, you had to ask!!!  Now is that smart or is that a lack of common sense or no sense for that matter??  You wouldn't know the difference between FLAC and mp3 if it came up and bit you on the fucking ass!!  I remember one time you uploaded something and claimed it was lossless, when infact it was PROVEN TO BE LOSSY!!!!  HAHAHAHA!!!  That was great and only further proves my point.  So stay out of threads if you have nothing meaningful to say.  You're so negative and full of self-pity that nobody cares what you have to say anymore.  *Hugs

wrong i will never u prove nothing to me i do not care what u say. if it is on a cd from a copany it is not lossy so try again u loose

Honestly, I think your problem lies more when someone else who isn't you shares something. ?A few posts back you weren't sure if something you had bought was FLAC or MP3 and stated you would share it either way.

But I digress, there is NO FLAC here (clearly stated in the 1st post) so no reason for your commentary. ?You make others not want to share. ?I am in no mood to get into a tangle with someone who cannot even form a complete sentence.

Hmmmm... You are a waste of a human body. You must be completely decelerated if you can actually stand living with yourself. Idiocy, complete idiocy.

i do what i want. when i want. how i want just like the people here/ look at born to die being banned is he no. he has a new name here so he is not banned so what was the use to bann him.

i know my english on making sentences is bad. also spellat times is bad so damn what.
as for me buying my stuff i share it me if it is from a company it is flac. u will not prove it to me otherwise.

as for sharing of other that is there choice. if u wanna share fine hjust put up good shit not low quality mp3. i do not wanna hear i can not upload flac it is crap it is a choice u make. we all can upload it.

Mr. Bomb, You just typed, "WRONG I WILL NEVER U PROVE NOTHING TO ME!!!!!!!"  Now what the hell is that supposed to mean??  I know I'm not as advanced mentally as you are, so please decipher that for me and for the rest of us.

EDIT:  GET OUT OF THIS FUCKING THREAD!!!!!  CAN'T YOU SEE NOBODY WANTS YOU HERE!!!!!  YOU ARE NOTHING BUT TROUBLE WITH A BAD ATTITUDE AND YOU LIVE IN A ONE DIMENSIONAL REALITY!!!  LEAVE THE THREAD TIME BOMB!!! YOU ARE GETTING SLEEPY!!! LEAVE THE THREAD!!! Now when I count to 3 and clap my hands once, you will think you are a frog and will leave this thread never to return, only to sit outside and eat bugs forever.  I can hypnotize you even over the NET timedumb.

Not everyone has super broadband connections so I am sure they appreciate the mp3 file format as FLAC files are almost as big as downloading a DVD.? Secondly, born to die types better than you and he isn't even a native English speaker nor is he on this thread complaining.

So unless you are here to offer free B&P to everyone of these files in FLAC format there is no reason for you to be in this thread-

I am not going to be one of those that kisses your ass because you spend every bit of money you have buying bootlegs, I don't care what you have-

In fact, YOU are the only one doing the complaining.? Go away, really now, just go-

sorry
i do not care what u say about my cd sets i put up.
i buy from japan. to me they are flac. you or no one else here will prove it to me in any way shape or form they are mp3

as for the post before i miss typed

o yeah enjoy it u people making fun of me. you enjoy making fun of a guy that is blind and has c.p. go ahead. that shows what kinda people you really are in life.

i hope if u have kids 1 day they have issues then u see what i or any other handicapped person goes threw. we do not need picked on we have enough issues in life with out that 2.

o yeah   lennonisgod

it show how ignorent u are to block a person for no reason when all they did was state the truth

1st off this has nothing to do with any health problems you may have.  It has to do with how you treat other members on the board.  There is no reason to be rude for no reason and stating you have health issues has nothing to do with that.  You are treated how you treat others in this world, remember that.

Don't play pity party seriously, that is the lowest of the low.  No offense but it doesn't change the fact that you are just plain rude to people.

There is NO NEED to diss what others choose to share with this board just because you don't want them or agree with the file format.  Don't turn this into something it's NOT.

First of all, FUCK YOU for saying anything about kids I might have one day. Secondly, my kids will actually have a personality and respect people unlike your sorry ass. Don't try to get pity from ANYONE here when you are the biggest fucking asshole I have ever encountered in my life.  The handicapped people I know, want to be treated as equals and don't want people to look at them as "different." You on the other hand, use that as an excuse to be a fucking dickhead and are more pathetic than any other human being on this fucking planet.  Don't EVER try to say what kind of people we are in life when you are the one that needs fucking mental help and are the most sorry excuse for a GN'R fan in the world.  You should be so fucking proud of yourself, THE WORLDS WORST GN'R FAN IN THE ENTIRE WORLD!!!!  Now fuck you 1000 times over for saying anything negative towards kids!!! Nobody that has any morals whatsoever would EVER WISH SOMETHING NEGATIVE ON A CHILD, REGARDLESS OF WHO'S IT IS!!!

Dude, go the fuck away. You are such a waste of life and I'm sorry that you have to live with yourself. I have nothing else to say to you that I haven't already said, so you can ruin this thread even more if you want. Fuck off timedumb. Just fuck off.

Wow i just blew a funny fuse. I just encountered the funniest thing of my life, and I can no longer laugh.  :-\



HAHAH! kidding! wow this was so great to come home to this! wow timebomb, first of all uve shared atleast 5 different shows that ended up being lossy, second no one said nething about ur health so stop using excuses....
im typing fast becuz i want to get this in before its locked!!!

Me:  :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

wow entertaining thread shit its in mp3 lets move on

Timebomb doesnt like Mp3 --- ok well he will need to find the flacs on Dimeadozen or somewhere whats the point in the fighting

my point is simple and i will leave it all alone from here on out.

PLEASE SAY THIS IS AN MP3 DOWNLOAD . IF U DO NOT EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO ASK MP3 OR FLAC

ON THE OTHER ISSUES I PUT HERE DROPPED BECAUSE U PEOPLE IN THIS THREAD REPLING JUST DO NOT GET MY POINT. THE ONLY PONT I TRIED TO MAKE WAS NOT A PITTY PARTY IT WAS JUST TO TELL U THAT I HAD THE ISSUES ONLY. NOT TO BE A PITTY PARTY I JUST DID IT THINKING U WOULD LET UP ON MY SPELLING ISSUES AND MY SENTENCE ISSUES. JUST TO FOCUS ON WHAT I SAY. DO NOT SAY IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE EITHER.

ON THIS ISSUE I WILL DROP

Hey EFISH, glad you could join the party.  This is what I was going to post and hour ago until TIMEDUMB started acting his normal self.  And please excuse me, but this is a lot and it's the tracklist for Discs 1-4 and info about the songs below that. This should probably be moved to the first post so people can see it though:  EDIT: Well, I didn't realize it was that long, so moving it to the first post is not possible.


GUNS N ROSES: 
THE RARITIES BOX SET

DISC ONE:  1985-1987
1.  Ain?t Goin Down (live)
2.  Reckless Life (demo)
3.  Nice Boys (demo)
4.  Move To The City (demo)
5.  Mama Kin (demo)
6.  Shadow Of Your Love
7.  You?re Crazy (acoustic demo)
8.  Don?t Cry (demo)
9.  Ain?t Goin Down (instr)
10.  Back Off Bitch (demo)
11.  Jumpin? Jack Flash
12.  November Rain (acoustic demo)
13.  Heartbreak Hotel
14.  Welcome To The Jungle (demo)
15.  It?s So Easy (live)
16.  Nightrain (demo)
17.  Out Ta Get Me (demo)
18.  Mr. Brownstone (alternate mix)
19.  Paradise City (demo)

DISC TWO:  1987-1989
1.  My Michelle (demo)
2.  Think About You (demo)
3.  Sweet Child O? Mine (live)
4.  You?re Crazy (demo)
5.  Anything Goes (demo)
6.  Rocket Queen (demo)
7.  Patience (live acoustic)
8.  Whole Lotta Rosie (live)
9.  It Tastes Good Don?t It (live)
10.  Welcome To The Jungle (alternate take)
11.  One In A Million (demo)
12.  Used To Love Her/Cornchucker
13.  Bad Obsession (demo)
14.  Civil War (instrumental)

DISC THREE:  1989-1990
1.  Knockin On Heaven?s Door (live)
2.  Dust N Bones (demo)
3.  Crash Diet
4.  Bring It Back Home
5.  Don?t Damn Me (instr)
6.  The Garden (demo)
7.  Just Another Sunday
8.  Sentimental Movie
9.  Locomotive (instr)
10.  Too Much Too Soon
11.  Civil War (demo)
12.  Double Talkin? Jive (instr acoustic)

DISC FOUR:  1990-1993
1.  Down On The Farm (live)
2.  Ain?t Goin? Down
3.  Yesterdays (demo)
4.  Don?t Damn Me (demo)
5.  Estranged (piano instr)
6.  Double Talkin Jive (live)
7.  November Rain (piano demo)
8.  Don?t Cry (alternate take)
9.  Garden Of Eden (demo)
10.  Coma (live)
11.  Dust In The Wind (live)

TRACK DETAILS:

DISC ONE

AIN?T GOIN DOWN
Recorded live in 1985 in Los Angelas
Musicians:  W Axl Rose (lead vocals) Izzy Stradlin (guitar) Slash (lead guitar) Duff McKagan (bass) Steven Alder (drums)
One of the first original Guns n Roses songs.  This was performed live during their early shows.  The guitar riff was later used for ?Pretty Tied Up? off of Use Your Illusion II. 

RECKLESS LIFE
Recorded in 1986
Musicians:  W Axl Rose (lead vocals) Izzy Stradlin (guitar) Slash (lead guitar) Duff McKagan (bass) Steven Alder (drums)
This is basically the same version that appears on Live Like A Suicide and GnR Lies except the fake crowd noise is removed.  (The band recorded the four songs on Live Like A Suicide in the studio and then added audience noise to make them sound live). 

NICE BOYS
Recorded in 1986
Musicians:  W Axl Rose (lead vocals) Izzy Stradlin (guitar, backing vocals) Slash (lead guitar) Duff McKagan (bass, backing vocals) Steven Alder (drums)
This Rose Tattoo song was performed often at early Guns shows.  Same version as on GnR Lies minus the overdubbed audience noise.

MOVE TO THE CITY
Recorded in 1986
Musicians:  W Axl Rose (lead vocals) Izzy Stradlin (guitar) Slash (lead guitar) Duff McKagan (bass) Steven Alder (drums)
One of the first Guns N Roses songs written primarily by Izzy Stradlin and Axl Rose. This was performed live throughout 1987-1993.  Again the crowd noise is not included.. 

MAMA KIN
Recorded in 1986
Musicians:  W Axl Rose (lead vocals) Izzy Stradlin (guitar) Slash (lead guitar) Duff McKagan (bass) Steven Alder (drums)
This is an alternate studio take of Guns version of an Aerosmith classic.

SHADOW OF YOUR LOVE
Recorded in 1986
Musicians:  W Axl Rose (lead vocals) Izzy Stradlin (guitar, backing vocals) Slash (lead guitar) Duff McKagan (bass, backing vocals) Steven Alder (drums)
An outtake from the Live Like A Suicide EP.  Not a live recording.  This was recorded in the studio and the crowd noise you hear was added after the fact. 

YOU?RE CRAZY
Recorded in early 1988
Musicians:  W Axl Rose (lead vocals) Izzy Stradlin (acoustic guitar) Slash (lead acoustic guitar) Duff McKagan (bass) Steven Alder (percussion)
An alternate version of the acoustic ?You?re Crazy? found on GnR Lies.

DON?T CRY
Recorded in 1986
Musicians:  W Axl Rose (lead vocals) Izzy Stradlin (guitar, backing vocals) Slash (lead guitar) Duff McKagan (bass, backing vocals) Steven Alder (drums)
Axl says this is the very first Guns n Roses song and helped the band get a record deal. 

AIN?T GOIN DOWN
Recorded in 1986
Musicians:  Izzy Stradlin (guitar) Slash (lead guitar) Duff McKagan (bass) Steven Alder (drums)
An instrumental version of this song from an early Guns studio session. 

BACK OFF BITCH
Recorded in 1986
Musicians:  W Axl Rose (lead vocals) Izzy Stradlin (guitar, backing vocals) Slash (lead guitar) Duff McKagan (bass, backing vocals) Steven Alder (drums)
Another early song written by Axl and Paul Huge. Was occasionally performed live during the band?s initial club dates. 

JUMPING JACK FLASH
Recorded in 1986
Musicians:  W Axl Rose (lead vocals) Izzy Stradlin (guitar, backing vocals) Slash (lead guitar) Duff McKagan (bass, backing vocals) Steven Alder (drums)
The band recorded several different versions of this Rolling Stones classic both in the studio and in concert.  This is a very early studio demo.

NOVEMBER RAIN
Recorded in 1986
Musicians:  W. Axl Rose (lead vocals) Izzy Stradlin (acoustic guitar)
Axl came up with this song in 1986 and recorded two demos during the Live Like A Suicide sessions.  On this version he?s backed up by Izzy on guitar. 

HEARTBREAK HOTEL
Recorded in 1986
Musicians:  W Axl Rose (lead vocals) Izzy Stradlin (guitar) Slash (lead guitar) Duff McKagan (bass) Steven Alder (drums)
One of dozens of cover songs the band performed at their early club dates.  This is Guns n Roses studio version of an Elvis Presley song. 

WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE
Recorded in 1986
Musicians:  W Axl Rose (lead vocals) Izzy Stradlin (guitar, backing vocals) Slash (lead guitar) Duff McKagan (bass, backing vocals) Steven Alder (drums)
One of several studio outtakes of Guns best known song. 

IT?S SO EASY
Recorded live in London on 06/28/87
Musicians:  W Axl Rose (lead vocals) Izzy Stradlin (guitar, backing vocals) Slash (lead guitar) Duff McKagan (bass, backing vocals) Steven Alder (drums)
One of the earliest live recordings of this song.  The band recorded the version found on ?Appetite For Destruction? in only a few takes. 

NIGHTRAIN
Recorded in 1986
Musicians:  W Axl Rose (lead vocals) Izzy Stradlin (guitar, backing vocals) Slash (lead guitar) Duff McKagan (bass, backing vocals) Steven Alder (drums)
Early version from the band?s first studio sessions.   

OUT TA GET ME
Recorded in 1986
Musicians:  W Axl Rose (lead vocals) Izzy Stradlin (guitar, backing vocals) Slash (lead guitar) Duff McKagan (bass, backing vocals) Steven Alder (drums)
Another early version of an Appetite song.   

MR. BROWNSTONE
Recorded in 1987
Musicians:  W Axl Rose (lead vocals) Izzy Stradlin (guitar, backing vocals) Slash (lead guitar) Duff McKagan (bass, backing vocals) Steven Alder (drums)
This is an alternate mix of the song on the album featuring a slightly different lead guitar from Slash.   

PARADISE CITY
Recorded in 1987
Musicians:  W Axl Rose (lead vocals) Izzy Stradlin (guitar, backing vocals) Slash (lead guitar) Duff McKagan (bass, backing vocals) Steven Alder (drums)
Early studio tryout of another Guns classic that features a different vocal style from Axl. 


DISC TWO: 

MY MICHELLE
Recorded in 1987
Musicians:  W Axl Rose (lead vocals) Izzy Stradlin (guitar, backing vocals) Slash (lead guitar) Duff McKagan (bass, backing vocals) Steven Alder (drums)
This is an early studio version with slightly different lyrics. 

THINK ABOUT YOU
Recorded in 1987
Musicians:  W Axl Rose (lead vocals) Izzy Stradlin (guitar, backing vocals) Slash (lead guitar) Duff McKagan (bass, backing vocals) Steven Alder (drums)
An outtake of the track found on Appetite For Destruction. 

SWEET CHILD O MINE
Recorded live at the Ritz on 02/02/88
Musicians:  W Axl Rose (lead vocals) Izzy Stradlin (guitar, backing vocals) Slash (lead guitar) Duff McKagan (bass, backing vocals) Steven Alder (drums)

YOU?RE CRAZY
Recorded in 1987
Musicians:  W Axl Rose (lead vocals) Izzy Stradlin (guitar, backing vocals) Slash (lead guitar) Duff McKagan (bass, backing vocals) Steven Alder (drums)
The electric demo of this ?Appetite? song. 

ANYTHING GOES
Recorded in 1986
Musicians:  W Axl Rose (lead vocals) Izzy Stradlin (guitar, backing vocals) Slash (lead guitar) Duff McKagan (bass, backing vocals) Steven Alder (drums)
A very early version of this song that features different lyrics.

ROCKET QUEEN
Recorded in 1987
Musicians:  W Axl Rose (lead vocals) Izzy Stradlin (guitar, backing vocals) Slash (lead guitar) Duff McKagan (bass, backing vocals) Steven Alder (drums)
Another early version of a Guns classic. 

PATIENCE
Recorded live at CBGB?s on 10/30/87
Musicians:  W Axl Rose (lead vocals) Izzy Stradlin (guitar, backing vocals) Slash (lead guitar) Duff McKagan (bass, backing vocals) Steven Alder (percussion)
The first time Guns performed this song live.  From an acoustic show the band did at CBGB?s about a year before GnR Lies was released. 

WHOLE LOTTA ROSIE
Recorded live in 1987
Musicians:  W Axl Rose (lead vocals) Izzy Stradlin (guitar, backing vocals) Slash (lead guitar) Duff McKagan (bass, backing vocals) Steven Alder (drums)
This AC/DC song was a crowd favorite at the band?s early shows. 

IT TAKES GOOD, DON?T IT? 
Recorded live in Iowa on 06/27/88
Musicians:  W Axl Rose (lead vocals) Izzy Stradlin (guitar, backing vocals) Slash (lead guitar) Duff McKagan (bass, backing vocals) Steven Alder (drums)
Guns N Roses version of a rap song.  This is the longest known version.  Usually the band only played about 90 seconds of this song.  Never recorded in the studio. 

ONE IN A MILLION
Recorded in early 1988.
Musicians:  W Axl Rose (lead vocals) Izzy Stradlin (guitar) Slash (lead guitar) Duff McKagan (bass) Steven Alder (percussion)
Outtake of the controversial song found on GnR Lies.  With a slightly restrained vocal from Axl. 

USED TO LOVE HER/CORNCHUCKER
Recorded in early 1988.
Musicians:  W Axl Rose (lead vocals) Izzy Stradlin (guitar) Slash (lead guitar) Duff McKagan (bass) Steven Alder (percussion)
An short outtake of ?Used To Love Her? followed by Duff?s song ?Cornchucker? which was is a leftover from GnR Lies.  The record company refused to include the song thinking it so obscene record stores wouldn?t sell it. 

BAD OBSESSION
Recorded in the spring of 1990. 
Musicians:  Izzy Stradlin (vocals, guitar) West Arkeen (guitar)
Izzy and West working on their new song in the studio backed by a drum machine. 

CIVIL WAR
Recorded in the spring of 1990. 
Musicians:  Slash (guitar) Duff McKagan (bass) Steven Adler (drums)
An early instrumental version of this Use Your Illusion II song. 


DISC THREE: 

KNOCKIN? ON HEAVEN?S DOOR
Recorded live at the Ritz on 02/02/88
Musicians:  W Axl Rose (lead vocals) Izzy Stradlin (guitar, backing vocals) Slash (lead guitar) Duff McKagan (bass, backing vocals) Steven Alder (drums)
This Guns cover of a Bob Dylan song became an audience participation favorite and one of the band?s most popular hits.  A studio version was never recorded with drummer Steven Adler. 

DUST N BONES
Recorded on 12/06/89
Musicians:  Duff McKagan (bass, guide vocals) Slash (guitar) Steven Adler (drums)
From the Matte Rehearsals in North Hollywood. Here, Duff, Slash and Steven try out some new material that would wind up on the Use Your Illusion albums.  Axl and Izzy weren?t able to make the session. 

CRASH DIET
Recorded in spring 1990
Musicians:  Axl Rose (vocals) West Arkeen (guitar) Izzy Stradlin (guitar) Slash (guitar)
Axl, West and Izzy backed by a drum machine.  This is a fan favorite among the unreleased Guns N Roses songs.  Recorded during the first real studio sessions for the followup album to ?Appetite For Destruction.?  During this time Steven Adler was battling a substance abuse problem and unable to record.  So a drum machine was used. 

BRING IT BACK HOME
Recorded in the Spring of 1990
Musicians:  Axl Rose (vocals) Slash (guitar) Izzy Stradlin (guitar) Duff McKagan (bass) Slash (guitar) 
Another ?Use Your Illusion? session outtake. 

DON?T DAMN ME
Recorded on 12/06/89
Musicians:  Duff McKagan (bass, guide vocals) Slash (guitar) Steven Adler (drums)
An instrumental demo from the Matte Rehearsals. 

THE GARDEN
Recorded in the spring of 1990
Musicians:  Axl Rose (vocals) West Arkeen (guitar) Izzy Stradlin (guitar)
An acoustic demo of a very early Guns song.  The band later re-recorded the song with Alice Cooper sharing lead vocals with Axl for Use Your Illusion I. 

JUST ANOTHER SUNDAY
Recorded in the spring of 1990
Musicians:  Axl Rose (vocals) Slash (guitar) Izzy Stradlin (guitar) Duff McKagan (bass) Slash (guitar)
?Use Your Illusion? outtake.  Not known who the female backup singer is. 

SENTIMENTAL MOVIE
Recorded in the spring of 1990
Musicians:  Duff McKagan (bass, lead vocals) Slash (guitar, backing vocals)
An original song written by Duff that was an early contender for ?Use Your Illusion.?  Slash helps out on vocals. 

LOCOMOTIVE
Recorded on 12/06/89
Musicians:  Duff McKagan (bass, guide vocals) Slash (guitar) Steven Adler (drums)
Duff, Slash and Steven on an early instrumental version from the Matte Rehearsals. 

TOO MUCH TOO SOON
Recorded in the spring of 1990
Musicians:  Axl Rose (vocals) Slash (guitar) Izzy Stradlin (guitar) Duff McKagan (bass)
One more Use Your Illusion outtake.  One of Axl?s most unusual songs.  Has some catchy moments but the chorus is repeated ad nauseam during the final 90 seconds of the song.  Too bad the engineer didn?t fade out at the 5 minute mark. 

CIVIL WAR
Recorded in the spring of 1990
Musicians:  Axl Rose (vocals) Slash (guitar) Duff McKagan (bass) Steven Adler (drums)
This is an early version and the first with vocals by Axl.  This is a bare bones track with no rain sound effects and movie dialogue overdubs from ?Cool Hand Luke.? 

DOUBLE TALKIN JIVE
Recorded between June 1990 ? early 1991
Musicians:  Slash (acoustic guitar)
An acoustic version of Slash?s classical guitar outro to ?Double Talkin? Jive? off Use Your Illusion I. 


DISC FOUR

DOWN ON THE FARM
Recorded live in Indianapolis on 04/07/90
Musicians:  Axl Rose (vocals) Izzy Stradlin (guitar) Slash (lead guitar) Duff McKagan (bass) Steven Adler (drums)
A cover of UK Subs song.  A studio version was later featured on The Spaghetti Incident?  This is from Steven Adler?s last concert with the band. 

AIN?T GOIN? DOWN
Recorded in the summer of 1990. 
Musicians:  Axl Rose (vocals) Izzy Stradlin (guitar) Slash (lead guitar) Duff McKagan (bass)
The band brought back this song during the Use Your Illusion sessions.  It didn?t make the final cut.  It?s not known who plays drums on this version. 

YESTERDAYS
Recorded in the spring of 1990
Musicians:  Axl Rose (vocals) West Arkeen (guitar) Izzy Stradlin (guitar) Duff McKagan (bass)
Early acoustic demo of this Use Your Illusion II song. 

DON?T DAMN ME
Recorded in December 1989 & Spring 1990
Musicians:  Axl Rose (vocals) Slash (guitar) Duff McKagan (bass) Izzy Stradlin (guitar) Steven Adler (drums)   
The music track was recorded during the Matte rehearsals.  Axl added this vocal track later on.  Axl forgets the lyrics towards the end of the song and improvises a conclusion. 

ESTRANGED
Recorded in the fall of 1990
Musicians:  Axl Rose (piano)
Guns N Roses most ambitious song.  This is an early piano instrumental by Axl. 

DOUBLE TALKIN JIVE
Recorded live in 1992
Musicians:  Axl Rose (vocals) Duff McKagan (bass) Slash (lead guitar) Gilbey Clark (guitar) Matt Sorum (drums) Dizzy Reed (percussion)
An extended live version that turns into a jam.  Slash adds a few bars of Jimi Hendrix ?Voodoo Chile? at the end. 

NOVEMBER RAIN
Recorded in 1986
Musicians:  Axl Rose (vocals, piano)
Another early demo of this Use Your Illusion epic.  This is a longer version with Axl on piano that sounds more similar to one on the album. 

DON?T CRY
Recorded in 1986
Musicians:  Axl Rose (vocals) Slash (guitar) Duff McKagan (bass) Izzy Stradlin (guitar) Steven Adler (drums)   
Another early outtake of this song that was featured twice on the Use Your Illusion albums and became a lead off single. 

GARDEN OF EDEN
Recorded between June 1990 ? early 1991   
Musicians:  Axl Rose (vocals) Slash (guitar) Izzy Stradlin (guitar) Duff McKagan (bass) Matt Sorum (drums)
Alternate take.  Very similar to the version featured on the album but with less sound
effect overdubs and a slightly different vocal take.   

COMA
Recorded live in Chicago in 1992
Musicians:  Axl Rose (vocals) Duff McKagan (bass) Slash (lead guitar) Gilbey Clark (guitar) Matt Sorum (drums) Dizzy Reed (keyboards, percussion)
A rare live version of this Use Your Illusion I epic. 

DUST IN THE WIND
Recorded live in 1993
Musicians: Axl Rose (vocals, piano) Slash (guitar) Duff McKagan (bass) Matt Sorum (percussion) Gilby Clarke (guitar) Dizzy Reed (keyboards)
This is Guns cover of a Todd Rundgren song.  They performed it several times on the final leg of their 1993 world tour. 

u said....

"wow u guys must be bad people in real life making fun of a guy with C.P and eye issues. wow guys" or something like that...

Number 1, this is an argurment, no ones making fun of you.

2, when did anyone say ANYTHING about your health issues?

You bring that up in every thread, to get people to feel bad for you....

Ridiculous

I DO NOT CARE WHAT U SAY FISH NOR ANYONE HERE
EVERYTHING I BOUGHT TO ME FROM JAPAN IS FLAC U WILL NEVER PROVE TO ME OTHERWISE

Dude, nobody would give a fuck about your typing and spelling if you weren't a fucking dick about everything. WE DO FOCUS ON WHAT YOU SAY AND THAT'S WHY MOST OF US HAVE GROWN TO HATE YOU!!!  WAKE UP!!!

lilimus or whoever else, who knows what they are doing checked the files and they are lossy.

you are so fucking stuburn.

This isn't about your spelling this is about how you treat other members and come onto every thread in this section to be negative about what is being shared. ?Maybe if you were NICER to people you wouldn't take so much heat but you just make people pissed off and make the people who shared not want to share again. ?Not everyone is as file diehard as you regarding FLAC files and you really need to get off your high horse about them already. ?Look at your OWN previous posts and all you do is ask the same thing over and over.

The original post has since been corrected if you didn't notice and CLEARLY states the download is MP3.

I hope reading this thread doesn't make others not want to share here. ?Most of us here appreciate your efforts. :peace:

It seems you cant enter a thread without starting your fights timebomb so i think u shuld just lurk and download stuff, stop posting.

please just stop.

I DO NOT CARE IF GOD SAID THEY WERE LOSSY
TO ME IF IT IS STRAIGHT FROM JAPAN COMPANY THEY ARE FLAC TO ME CASE CLOSED

Your train of thought is very very genious!
 ::) ::) ::)

Thank you, lennon for posting the file info-

I dont think what i say was innaproraite, but yeah, no need to "risk" it.. i took it off  :beer:

Yeah, thanks alot man!  :beer:

NO SEE I DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW TO TELL IF FLAC IS MP3 FIRST. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE PROGRAMS TO TELL SHOWING ME ON THE PC IS 1 THING SHOWING ME HOW TO TELL IN PERSON IS DIFFER TO ME IT IS EASIER.

You are welcome Bandita and EFISH. But remember, download with caution... People that download mp3's and don't buy fake FLAC's from Japan are going to hell!!!  I'm risking it, but will you??

Wow, so you believe everything people tell you, right??  That will get you far.  That is so fucking smart of you!! Did you think that up all by yourself?? And thanks for ruining this fucking thread!!

enjoy hell take lot's of water

I hear they have water fountains.

Dude, I was joking!!  You don't really go to hell!!  That's why you can't believe everything other people say TimeDumb.  Did you hear that FLAC can cure all diseases??

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3BNCRJVK

Here, I made a text file of all the information posted on the CDs.




 :rofl:

I guess I am going to hell then. :nervous:

thank you

but i need shown hands on at my pc i just do not understand thanks anyway



my problums is not the mp3 itself
it is the trading of it it kills trading to people who want flac
now on? my account i buy the cd's from japan they are orinal's now if they are mp3 nothing i can do. people look for cd title of the shows.

I thought you were done on the last page.  Why are you still posting in this thread?  You don't want this material so move along now....

Everyone else, enjoy! ;D

If your problem isn't the mp3, then why keep calling it "shit" over and over. You have personal problems with mp3's and I think it's hilarious.  Have you been beaten up or picked on by an mp3 at sometime in your life??  Did an mp3 ever throw stuff at you?? What's the deal man??  What has an mp3 ever done to you timedumb??  Are mp3's just not a good lay, like your lover the FLAC??  Hell, I prefer lossless over lossy just like most people, but I won't cry about it and start a 3 page argument on the internet over it.

because they are shit u do not get it it is a low call quality of  the good flac file u do not get it it kills the trading of the real stuff

I remember him telling me on AIM that he wouldnt listen to an MP3 if it meant saving his parent's life.

So saying he doesnt have a problem with MP3 is the funniest joke of this century.  ;D

Wow u just totally contradicted yourself.  :rofl: :rofl:

no u do not get it yet do u. it is not the mp3 format i dislike that it is low quality is all

Well ladies and Gentlemen... and timedumb, I am off to work now. Keep my spot warm for me though and I'll be back in about 8 hours.  I'm so glad we had this conversation today, so fucking glad. HAHAHA!!!

correct fish i will not listen to mp3 i do not want it on my pc u guys d/l low quality shit it is on u. i do not have 1 on my pc period

I was attacked viciously once by a pixelated AVI file with a sub par audio stream! ?Serious business folks! :confused:

But I really don't get how sharing mp3 files kills trading in any way. ?If you want it, you download it. ?If you don't then you don't. ?It is as simple as that, really!

If you want to give all your money to the Japanese for fake FLAC files, well that is your business.

till u come to my home prove to me right in front of my face they are fake they are not stop tring will not work.

Stop posting......................................


Now.

when u fish learn u do not run me it will be better

Well..Well. Hmm. I come on these websites for fun. FUN. I posted the links to the music because I wanted to. I didn't know that all of this would follow. I posted these on more than just this site. But guess what...this site is the only site that has had a problem with what I posted. This is a place for people who share a common interest to come and enjoy themselves. Not act like children. And for the person or persons who dont like mp3 format....dont download it. Don't listen to it and dont bother the people who do appreciate it. Simple as that. DON'T.? :beer: Peace. Jason Ford

This thread became nonsense very fast.

I think its simple: When someone makes a thread, that person should (read well, SHOULD, not must) give all the proper info. What do I mean with ''proper info''?

If it is audio, put what is the extension of the files. Put the bitrate. Put the source.

If it is video, same. Extension, size, generation (if needed) and author (if its is a DVD)

Nothing more, nothing else. If I see a thread that says ''mp3 128 kbps 90 mb'' (14 digits, no one is going to die for providing and writing that info) I will just leave the thread.

I personally prefer lossless formats and DVDs than lossy/avi-mpg-wmv-asf. But I have no right to bitch if someone uploads lossy stuff. The only thing I think I deserve to know is the proper info.

Peace guys, we are just talking about digital stuff. Life has a lot of REAL and serious problems to make a problem out of this insignificant thing

[about typing, you have to realise that GNR fans are not all american. I do my best to try to write in english when my mother language is NOT this. Why dont you try to speak in spanish, and I spend all my time here making fun of you?]

Again, peace... this should be taken as a hobby, something fun, and nothing else...

Flimflam, there are a select few here that will never be happy.  The rest of us appreciate your efforts.  Hopefully you will still include us in the future when you decide to share something and pay no mind to the negativity that comes from a few who obviously have nothing better to do than whine over file formats.

Estebanf-if you check now you can clearly see that the 1st post is labeled as mp3 now. 

tring to be cool is putting the real flac up only case closed

Your a fucking Moron.

no i am not a moron sorry the one that calls me that must be 1 putting the mp3 crap up or being thankful for low quality shit

Dont get me wrong. I think that sharing stuff, from a single mp3 to 200gb of DVDs, is the right attitude. I appreciate your efforts, because you uploaded FUCKING AWESOME stuff, no matter what kind of extension the files are. I just considered that, at first, lennon atacked innecesarily Timebomb for making just a question, a question that I could have done, and I dont think I deserved to be bashed for such a simple question.

You can do whatever you want. You dont have to do more info just because I suggest you that. That was just my 2 cents on this subject. I think you uploaded great stuff, and I appreciate (we all should) your efforts.

Can you understand my point? I didn't download this stuff and I wont download it. But I am thankful anyway, because you made an effort and you had the will of helping people sharing your stuff.

I am thankful even when I wont download this because Im not interested in mp3. If I replied in this thread it was just because I considered that lennon was unnecesarily rude with a guy who simply made an innofensive question.

Ill second that. He really, really is.

thanks for these flimflam! ?:beer:

awesome, I have nothing more to do in this thread. I made a suggestion and my suggestion was heared. Thank you and the uploader. I have nothing against anyone in this discussion.

PS: with just one ''mp3'' is enough...

i will never thank a guy for putting up low quality shit

u people do not get it spreading low quality shit on purpose kills the thading circle

as for u people calling me names u all can go fuck off

Estebanf,
              I hear you and I understand your point of view. I have nothing else to say here either. This shit is giving me a headache.

I will third this and also make note that somewhere in this thread I put a text file that has the CD information.  The point here is that we should help each other out, not bash people for doing us a favor.  Here it is again, obviously a lot of info to put in the thread but lennon did it and then I made an easy to download text file of it-

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3BNCRJVK

Timebomb, go take a valium or something.  Really now, just go. :peace:

Telling us to fuck off?! :o
Youre in for a karma, bad boy.  :no:

i do not care u do not get the point
u people think destroying the trading of the good audio is cool by spreading around shit p3's sorry i just do not like it nor think it is cool. u wanna bash me fine i think i had the right to say what i said back i do not will not stand for shit p3's

o calling me names fish and a few other me that is ok but i camn not say fuck off well sorry i think both were wrong yes but i think it is even up

Yeah, that is why we share "crap p3's".. is to "destroy trading", because we think that is so cool!

Wow,  you are in your own reality.

Who in their right mind would want to trade anything with you anymore?  You are nothing but mean and negative to people.  You even IMed me once on AIM and were rude for no reason.  Please for the LOVE OF GOD, take your FLAC loving self somewhere else and spread your joy.  Let the rest of us actually enjoy this board and what is being shared.

NO

Nobody respond to this person. This is obviously what they are craving. Attention. Dont give them anymore and they will go away.

wait i have a better idea just tell me 1 reason 1 good reason why u like mp3 over flac

do not say my connection or size of files or d/l or upload time nothing on ipod either or hard drive space

just give me 1 sold good reason why u prefer them over the best quality there is

i will drop it all? then

because everyone i mean every one can upload or download flac

Uhh so it's your personal crusade now to rid the entire world of mp3s?  Get a freakin' grip.  You are incorrigible.  I can't even argue with you because you are so detached from reality.  I am done here. :rant:

no it is i am in reality i just hate bad quality so bad when people can share the good shit it is just a matter of i do not want to

it is good that i can share every cd or cdr from 85-2006 that i have if i so choice i already did it on the dime once

You are now officially the 1st person I have put on PM block.  Next is AIM.  Congrats and stop contacting me, thank you and GOOD NIGHT.

that just proved u lied about me on aim because that is what i asked u in a pm u blocked instead

Wow timebomb....You seriously need to get a life.....this guy is just sharing some stuff he has....? Most of us do not live our lives breathing on Gn'R bootlegs. Go outside, hell make some music of your own that you can be proud of. Bootlegs in general sound crappy, no matter if their flac or not. But they are fun to have. The key word is FUN! Stop taking things so seriously, take a pill, drink a beer, get some some (real) friends. You'll be a much happier person in the long run.


P.S. Thank you so much filmflamking. I really appreciate this. Anytime another fan shares stuff with others. it's always great. Downloading now!

enjoy the mp3

Timebomb -

You sent me a lossless FLAC of Too Much Too Soon a while ago, but I'll never forget when you cut me off after I told you it would be quicker, easier, and more convenient if you uploaded it yousendit or one of the other file sharing servers - you threw a temper tantrum, used the "I'm disabled" excuse, and bitched that you weren't waiting 30 mins for one file to finish.

Again, I like FLACs as much as the next person, but I'm not gonna blow a fucking gasket if someone posts MP3s.

U LIKE MP3 IS WHY ENJOY

Burning Hills...

He's done that too me on AIM also..

Hell be sending me a FLAC, then at like 90 percent will cut off, call me a Mp3 Lover, and block me...


Timebomb, didnt u say u were guna leave this thread like 2 pages ago ???

I DO WHAT I WANT WHEN I WANT HOW I WANT SINCE U THINK MP3 IS COOL

Dude, yep - I totally cheat on my girlfriend with MP3s every night!  :o

You sound like a little stuborn kid crying for icecream or something

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

 now dude u are acting stupid. just like others u just wanna totley miss the point all together your choice enjoy your mp3's

I think Timebomb has nightmares of MP3s invading his computer at night.
I say we go on an MP3 posting frenzy and hopefully we cause him so much distress he leaves the board.  In fact I am going to convert everything I have on FLAC to 128 MP3s.  Oh the humanity! :nervous: :crying:

Timebomb you are rude and you have been blocked for being rude.  You IMed me once for some stupid reason on AIM and then proceeded to be rude to me some months ago regarding DVDs, you IMed me then cut me off, were rude and signed off.  Seems like I am not the only one by the responses.

Not to mention you keep editing your responses.  1st you curse us out then 2 minutes later you put an edit in making it look nicey nice and that you didn't do anything wrong when in fact 1st you typed something rude (I am guessing so the mods only see what our response to you is).  So on top of being rude you are a coward.  Great traits, really.

now that i know u are going to do it it really will not faze me it shows me u only wanna out bad quality up

screw this shit..is there anything new on here or are these the demos that have been available for a long time

New? What are you talking about. New is perception. No There are no Leaked Demo's....However I do have them in FLAC format. All leaked Demo's 98 and the new ones all versions.

Hahaha!!  He was the first person I blocked from PM as well, and that was just earlier today. I can't believe I leave for a few hours and TimeDumb is still going on and on about the HORRORS of mp3's.  P-A-T-H-E-T-I-C.  For those that can't spell (TimeDumb), that spells PATHETIC!!!  TimeDumb you really, really need to just go away. Please and that's from ALL of us. We all want you to leave this thread alone and go make love to your lossless audio.  I hope your lossless audio cheats on you with an mp3 and you get your fucking heart broken and your entire world crumbles before you.

Wow, another polite one.  IS this TimeDumb under another name or what??  "Screw this shit"?? DOES THE THREAD NOT SAY RARITIES FROM 1985-1994??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  THERE IS A TRACKLISTING IN THE THREAD!!!  What more do you want?? Do you think we would actually be posting NEW DEMOS on this website??  THAT SIR, IS A BIG NO!!!!!!!!!!!

sorry everyone i only go under 1 name i do not play the 2 name games as stated last post

I honestly cant remember the other s/n you had.. but i remember you telling me you made a new one here a couple months ago, just preparing incase u get banned ;D

What is it gonna take to make you leave this thread? :rant:

He'll never leave.  As long as an mp3 exists in this thread, he will be here.  He will stalk all of those people that download mp3's and destroy the GN'R trading ring.

drop my pics u to i will leave i promise efish i know u gave it out though on purpose to make fun of me

Who is going to keep up the MP3 death crusade if you actually leave? :rofl:

if the 3 people get my pic's off i will stop

i never bashed the 3 people using my pic's on this board it is not right
i do not go out side gnr and bash as now efish did giving that pic out to bash me i do not go that far

All of you need to shut up about this.

Sure, FLACs are technically better, but when compared to for example 192kbps vbr mp3, there really is practically no audible difference even on the best hifi system, and no audible difference at all on your basic set. Just a huge difference in size.

So just stop this nonsense and the stupid arguing since neither of you are willing to make peace here.

flacs are better but who cares.   people have the right to download and spread whatever they wish.

and to that whole argument "i dont care if its been proven lossy, its still flac to me"  :rofl:   nevermind....   

nice pic timebomb.  :beer:


and thanks to the original uploader for this set.  very cool.

flacs have been proven lossy? what have I missed?

didn't he post a cd he bought from japan and put them up as flacs and then someone did that spectral analysis stuff to show said flacs were lossy?   

its like taking an .mp3 and converting it to a flac.   it doesn't work. 

If a cd is turned into a flac, it is, indeed a lossless format. No data is lost from the cd-form. If you turn an mp3 into a flac it's still lossless, but only to the extent that the mp3 allowes it to be. It will be different from the cd (of course).

I think that David is a little obsessed with his hate for mp3, I admit it. But I think that posting his picture without his permission is a more inmature attitude than his. Period.


Several errors:

* You can turn a CD into flac and get lossy, if the CD's source is a lossy source.
* When you compress FLAC into WAV, there's a very little minumum of data info that is lost (unperceptible, but technically comprobable)
* About the ''If you turn an mp3 into a flac it's still lossless, but only to the extent that the mp3 allowes it to be'' I really really really cant understand what you want to say (language problems, I speak spanish) but Im 99% sure you're wrong if I understood well.

Best MP3 available is 320 kbps, right? that's not lossless. Period. Convert FLAC (800-900 kbps) to the best mp3 bitrate and you passed from 900 kbps to 320, and obviuosly, you made a 3 times smaller file.

MP3's are never lossless. That's for sure.

From what I've understood, the reason the Wav-file is not identical with the created flac-file, is because Wavs have additional info written into them, that, when turned back into wav from flac, is _not_ encoded. However the audiodata should be the same. The people at the official site have even been kind enough to put up a link to program that compares the different audio contents. http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/

What I meant with the last one, was that all the information that is in the mp3, will also be in flac-format. It has not lost _any_ quality from the mp3-version. It is always a matter of comparing 2 things. and if an mp3 is the original source, a flac made from that can still be called lossless, although it's naturally not even possible for it to be as good as for example if a cd-quality source was available for the file. I don't know if I'm able to explain this clearly.

Dont worry i know what you mean even if others dont

Let me end all this first and foremost.  I can give you a perfect reason why I can listen to bootlegs in mp3 format.  BECAUSE THEY SOUND LIKE SHIT ANYWAY.  Most of these demos and everything are all shitty sounding in the first place.  I think this is what's going through your head and you think it's the mp3 tag causing it.  The bootlegs from the show all sound like shit, even the really really good audience recordings still have flaws.  Why the fuck would I want to waste my time trying to get a flac lossless version of a shitty sounding concert or old demo anyway?  It's not like you're fucking preserving these recordings to be saved in the fucking Library of Congress anyway.  Oh and yes, low connection speed. 

hahaha tarded.

This is sad. I posted the music (For the first time here) because I wanted to share. I enjoyed these files. I was turned on to them by someone in much the same fashion. So I thought I would pass them on. All of this making fun of people (Posting their picture) and the badmouthing of mp3's has got to stop. Both sides. Leave it alone. Who cares. Yeah, it's stupid in my opinion to waste so much energy bad mouthing something someone else is giving away for free....but at the same time, quit feeding into it. Let it die. Download the material or dont. What is really screwed is that I have alot of other stuff I "Was going to post." Some of it I have posted in other forums already. But by the reactions I have gotten here Im not sure if I want to post it now. Peace.
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Jason (flimflamking)

Dude don't worry about the 'discussions'.

I for one, as well as the majority of others, _do_ enjoy these things posted (no matter what the format). Some people just need to take a deep breath and think for a second before posting.

Yeah dude, keep posting the stuff, it's greatly appreciated.  Don't let this one person ruin it for everyone else.  Us slow speed folks appreciate this more than you can imagine.  Timebomb has done this for a long long time now.....nothing new, he just went a little overboard and childish (moreso than usual) in this case.  Keep posting your stuff and I guarantee the 99% of the board that isn't him will greatly appreciate it.  Thanks again dude.

Thanks alot for this ;D
Btw,does anyone have a tracklist yet?

Why don't you explain to us, the little people, why mp3s are so bad? We've heard you babble on and on about the 'low quality' bullshit, but why not offer some fact to demonstrate why this is true, for a change.  Going around and telling people how much mp3s sucks will never gain you any respect. Offering a reason or some sort of coherent explanation instead of "fuck you this sucks i do what i want when i want how i want blah blah blah" may actually promote your purpose to get rid of mp3s and promote the use of FLAC.

Until you step up and start making sense, very few people will take you seriously.  Most of us already know why Mp3s are lossy, but how about an explanation from you? Not a link to a website, not a copy and paste, not a bullshit personal excuse why you cant type - OFFER AN EXPLANATION IN YOUR OWN WORDS.  For all of the incessent whining you've done in recent months about mp3s, you can certainly put your efforts into an explanation. No excuses. Put up or shut up. If you don't give this, your word around here will be considered more of a joke than it already has become.

Let me clear a few things up.

First of all my first post was meant as a question.? Were they flacs or mp3.

A bunch of people jumped all over me before I started blasting back at some of you guys.

Whenever something is shared on here or anywhere it is very important that as much info as availible is given with that download. MP3 are for your ipod not for the trading community.

When a show is taped it is lossless and should only be shared in flac or shn or wave formats. When a original recording is converted to MP3 quality from the original recording cuasing it to become lossy format becuase you lose quality . mp3 is lossy as an example.

When files are shared on this board and they are not correctly labled people download them then trade to traders believing they are getting lossless and they really get lossy.? The more lossy content that gets shared amongst the community the more diluted the trading community becomes.

If you want to share, share the good stuff, the flacs and wave files.

I trade? for or BUY everything I have.? And then I share it with everyone . Sometimes when I buy cd sets from japan it is found that some of the cd sets that are in wave format might of been created by lossy source. Which pisses me off, but I do not know how to use the spectrum program so I find out after I share them.? And the worst part is some of these are remasters oif the original sources which flacs were availible for but instead they conmverted to mp3 first and hurt quality.

MP3 are for the average fan , not for the hardcore fans or traders.?

But more importantly I get mad when people share the mp3 but will not share the flac. Now in this case this guy did not have original flacs he shared what he had which was mp3. I only wanted to know what they were and some popele called me names and i got mad.

There are horders on sites that will tease you with lesser quality mp3 or divx when they have the good stuff. Which is not right.

MP3 are lousy quality compared to flacs

If you have flacs you should share them first, if you want to share mp3 that is fine by me.

OK seriously, that was not written by you and you know it.

I think I know who typed that out for you, but I wont say...

Whatever, I wont post here anymore but I just wanted to say sorry to Film for having to go through all of this just for posting some downloads for us.  :-X We do appreciate it! : ok:

First off your opinion is hilarious about what a hardcore fan is......a hardcore fan is someone who's supported the band for going on 18 years now, seen them live, bought every album, kicked someone's ass for talking shit about the lead singer's hair and has defended their lineup changes relentlessly over the past 8 years..........NOT some little shit that tries to collect as many unauthorized bootlegs that he can for whatever reason (if you listen to SCOM live 9000 different times, you've got more time than I do my friend).  You want the truth, you can't handle the truth.....MP3 for life.  128 kbs too.  Fuck yeah  :smoking:

A hardcore fan actually buys the albums and doesnt refuse anything "studio" and is obbsessed with ONLY bootlegs.  ;)

That being said, well you guys know the rest....

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3BNCRJVK

This is CD 1-4


I've seen the band 4 times this year, soon to be 6 and have been seeing them live since 1988, that is a hardcore fan, not someone who buys and collects every bootleg on the planet.  I give my money to the band, not some bootlegger.  Oh, and I love MP3s for the simple reason I can play them in my car and play the same CD for a week and have 200 songs on there.   ;D

Ah, the hardcore fan....

Well, if that's the case, what makes you a fan?

Last I checked, compulsion and genuine, assanine comments toward the kindness of other fans puts you in the wrong seat to determine who is more of a fan then someone else.

Simply stated, you may be a hardcore trader, but your collection does not make you a hardcore fan, by any means.  Many people have your collection - just in different formats. 

I guess we should license people to drive based on what car the drive?

Maybe we should all go and spend 6 g's on the same shit that we can have for free.  FREE, the way it was intended.  You busted ass on people for sharing MP3s when they have the flacs... so why do you offer to sell your shit for $10 per show when you could share it for free?

You're hypocritical.

Fact: No fan in this forum should be looked down upon by ANYONE for their collection.  The fact that most people are here with genuine interest is enough to consider them a fan.  The status of hardcore begins with how often you're here, how many shows you've been to, how many shows you have... but BY NO MEANS will I ever judge anyone by the format of the shows.  Frankly, for the simple fact that the differences lie in frequencies that can seldom be heard by the human ear, it's all the same.  The ONLY DIFFERENCE is how much money you coughed up over the years to get what you have.

The hardcore fan is pro-GNR, both current and historic. The hardcore fan supports other fans and does not look down upon them. The hardcore fan shares for free, because they want the music to be heard.

So, I ask each of you to take a minute and answer... what kind of fan are you?

wow, if we all had time on our hands to produce flac FREE... wouldn't this be a great place. Fact is, the majority of people are 100% appreciative of the efforts of people on this forum to share their collections. We can take or leave what is on offer, again I reiterate for FREE.

The more people bitch, the less people will be prepared to share, the less productive sharing community which has been developed in this forum.

i think efish and timebomb should go on a date and clear everything up cuz i am sick of hearing them bitch on here

My point - exactly. 

And for someone that claims to have "everything" - - what is the point of lurking in this section to downtalk everyone that tries to share and collect?

It just doesn't add up.

There are 3 members on this thread. Who really have pushed the limits to the max, they post silly kid like posts ALL the time and they dont get banned.

Please can someone question there status on here cause they're taking the piss. No doubt you can already guess who i mean but if not moderators feel free to pm me.

Why not enlighten the rest of the board...?

Everyone just ignore him. It has nothing to do with anyone else except for me. It seems mrlee takes things argued about on an internet forum too serious and has personal issues with me. He is just a kid though, so I won't hold it against him. Mrlee, there are mods here who can do their jobs on their own without a 16 year old trying to tell them what to do. If they wanted you to be a moderator, then you would have been one. Now maybe you should grow up and get over whatever is bothering you, concerning me. You just need to let things go. I wouldn't be surprised if you're a spoiled little brat that has everything handed to you and ALWAYS gets your way at home. You act like one here and I hope as you get older and hopefully a little smarter, you will grow out of it. SO everyone else, just ignore this kid.

I agree. Ignore it all.  Some children (not to mention any names, this is more hypothetical) probably never get  their way at home and weren't held enough as a child, so they turn to the message boards to act big and tought and exhibit some 'control' with complete strangers, because they have no control of anything in their own lives and need to foster some sort of alternative lifestyle in order to survive, even if it is in a false reality.

 :peace:

Can't be bothered reading an 8 page thread of people bitching about Flac vs Mp3. This guy was good enough to put this shit together for all of us to enjoy. No-one's forcing you to download it if you're on some crazy fucked up anti-mp3 trip.

Thanks for posting it man, and taking the time.

BTW, does anyone have the details for discs 5 & 6?  :peace:

Actually i say 3 members, last time i looked you only had one account? You havent been on this forum as long as me. Oh and look, you suddenly have 4 stars rating when about 2 days ago you had 2, hmm i wonder how many posts arnt arguments full of shit?

My personal life has nothing to do with you, however i will tell you i certainly do not get my own way at home and i certainly dont get everthing on demand. The arguement you have had with me, in the other thread, is fine i expect arguments over music. However your the one who hunting down every post i make to try and bring up things from the arguement. So kindly get a life and stop trying to find everything i post in to give your sad life, what youd class as, a purpose.

He's actually been here a year longer than you  : ok: : ok:

No i was here as a guest long before then, i just found it easier to be registered for obvious reasons.

So maybe he was a guest for a year also? You never know that :hihi:

Time for school :-\........

Did you really have to tell me you were going to school lol.

Well the fact still remains that he is bringing one argument from another thread nearly everywhere i go.

any idea if one of those cd's has 14 years at noblesville, i know there was a post about it, but i cant get to the thread

thanks in advance

Disc 5
1. Not Fade Away-Mr.Brownstone
2.Rock and Roll
3.Slash & Izzy jam with L.A. Guns
4.Dont Cry Alt. Lyrics
5.Free Fallin ( This is not the MTV Music Awards) I think its in New York (Not Sure)
6.Knockin On Heavens Door
7.Dead Horse
8.Godfather Theme
9.Unreleased Song
10.Mr.Brownstone (Remix)
11.Sweet Child O Mine
12.Oh My God
13.Jam
14.Locomotive
15.Train Kept A Rollin
16.Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds
17.Imagine
18.Up Around The Bend
19.Roadhouse Blues
20.Let It Be
This is the track listing as I have it. These songs are all from various sources and I am posting them as I received them.

whoa jamming with l.a. guns nice  :o

That's the biggest bull shit I have ever heard. Tell me one place I have even brought that up, when you didn't start shit with me first!!! ONE PLACE!!!!  You will not find a place because unlike you, I don't follow people around the forum and try to start shit. Oh yeah, I have been here waaaay longer than you. I had a different name from a different IP probably twice before this and from almost the time this forum was opened and this current name has been registered almost a year longer than yours. That's so fucking stupid to bring up anyway, who cares who's been here longer?? That doesn't have shit to do with anything. It doesn't mean someone is a bigger GNR fan because they've been on this forum longer does it?? I know of people registered this year that know 10x more than you do about GNR and music in general. So don't try to go there with that childish shit. How about you leave me alone and stop trying to make it seem like I'm doing anything to you. Again, show me where I followed you "nearly" everywhere you have gone and brought up a stupid argument!!!! You won't be able to, because it's not fucking true!!!  Wake the fuck up and stop dreaming. Talk about people typing stupid fucking shit posts... look at you. And I have actually had 4 stars for quite a long time now, definitely not just for 2 days. So get your facts straight little boy, oh wait, that's impossible for you and you continuously make up lies because you have nothing REAL to say. I'm really done with you and now it's really time to ignore your childish behavior. When you come on here and try to tell people lies about me, then I have to stick up for myself. The one about me following you around, when you just did that, is hilarious. I haven't made one comment towards you besides this thread, which you started shit and that dumb Nirvana thread, which you also started shit first. Bye little guy.

I don't see any versions of 14 years on any of these CD's. Sorry. I'm sure if you ask the right people though, someone would be more than willing to upload it for you...

Sorry for the double post, but the one above me was just defending myself because I have a 16 year old boy stalker... which is weird. Why can't it be a chick that is at least 18 or older??

link to 14 years flac

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=37430.new#new

Wow, some stuff I've never heard there. Thanks!  : ok:

if flac is better than how come myt mp3 sounds better?

all i will say on that is it is a matter of opinion so glad u like them.

 :rofl:

On topic if anyone has the track information for CDs 5 and 6 I will add it to the text file-

what even plays .flac?  ???

The kind of compression (format/extension) HAS NOTHING to do with sound quality if the sources are different.

One same CD, ripped two times, one to FLAC, and one to MP3: -----> No chance that the mp3 file has a better quality

''Use Your Illusion II'' ripped to mp3 64 kbps will sound better than ''Maxxximum'' ripped to 1411 kbps WAV File.

Same for video. You can compare two audio formats if you use the same CD (source) as reference. All other comparisons will be senseless.

I was only able to get four CD's:
-Guns N' Roses - Ultra Rare Tracks 1
-Guns N' Roses - Ultra Rare Tracks 5
-Guns N' Roses - Rareties Disc_3_1989-1990
-Guns N' Roses - Rareties Disc_1_1985-1987

Could someone upload the other ones, please ?? :drool:

I just want to say that I'm almost done downloading and keeping what I want, and a big thanks goes out to the man who started this thread.
THANKS.
(And by the way, I don't care if it's FLACK, FUCK or MP3.) I haven't heard some of this stuff before and it rocks.

 Thank you for your kind words.  I am using the pc's here at the College that I attend at the moment or I would be uploading alot more files. I got a nasty virus that has rendered my pc at home virtually useless and I have lost everything that I didn't have backed up. But it's nice to hear that someone got some enjoyment out of the shit I did post. If anyone is interested...you can go to www.Metalknowldge.com and e-mail the guy who runs the site for a password. He is Hella cool and will share whatever he has with you. And let me tell you he has alot. Guns video....Audio...as well as a ton of other good metal band.

hey thanks to the guy who uploaded this stuff you rock, could you please upload disc 3 again as it has seemed to timed out?

thanks

Funny stuff in this thread  :hihi:

Quite possibly the funniest thread ever. ;D

I think it's hilarious that twice someone has randomly bumped it.  :hihi:

It's the Ultra Rare Tracks Cds that have  been around forever. If you have those CDs already, you don't need this.
But thanks anyway, the intention is noble and maybe some people don't have  the rare tracks.
BTW, there  is URT 7 and 8 also....

Thank you so much flimflamking  : ok:

all of this will definatley make my wait for Chinese Democracy alot easier

Cornshucker is my new favorite song, cant believe i never heard that before