Here Today... Gone To Hell!

won't play for me :-\

enter http://www.4tus.com/

yeah, it just don't start to play it for some reason

or, do you really 'enter'?

guess i'll just wait until some GHnerd posts it on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBgJGzz_v3I

let's hope dickie is the new lead ax-er!!!

let's hope dickie is the new lead ax-er!!!

I hope he will. The band needs another Star that just Axl. It has to be a Guitar Player of course. The new band is good, but it lacks a Leader besides Axl. Guns N' Roses (the old band) was a 2 leaders band (Axl and Slash) and Slash has never been replaced in term of leadership. Leadership is very important to identify a band. It just cant be "only Axl + a bunch of guys in his back". Richard has to take responsability in the band and be in front line with Axl now :) It will be better for the band  :)

Honnestly he was by far the best guitar player onstage when I saw the band in 2006, and one of the 2 or 3 best players I have ever seen, ever. Really. He impressed me more than Joe Perry (Aerosmith). And that means a lot!

Any Guitarist, at this level, can play Lead and rythm, it's not a problem really. Richard has always been the main Guitar Player in all the bands he used to be, from the furs to LSL, Pale Divine or the Bashers, he always used to be either the only Guitar player or to be the main player among 2 players (to be honnest, I just don't get the 3 players thing, it's too much, 2 guys are enough).

The "he is only the rythm guitarist, he can't play lead" doesn't mean anything. He is absolutely better than Bumblefoot (don't forget I saw the band in 2006, I was close to the stage, I saw everyone of them very, very close) and I can't see DJ Ashba taking a central role in the band because he is just new, it would be very disrespecfull, in my opinion, for Richard and Ron.

To be the main guitarist in GN'R, you have to deserve it both by talent and longevity in the band. Richard is the only one, among the 3 guitarists, who has both, talent and longevity in the band. It seems natural to me that he will be the natural guitar leader of the band, it's a question of recognizion and respect.

But I agree with you. It will be Axl's decision I suppose, I just hope Axl will FINALLY let Richard be important in the band because he has always put him in the shadow and I never understood why he did that. It's like having a genius child in your family but punishing him by locking him in the room, you see?. I hope it will change now.

Any Guitarist, at this level, can play Lead and rythm, it's not a problem really. Richard has always been the main Guitar Player in all the bands he used to be, from the furs to LSL, Pale Divine or the Bashers, he always used to be either the only Guitar player or to be the main player among 2 players (to be honnest, I just don't get the 3 players thing, it's too much, 2 guys are enough).

The "he is only the rythm guitarist, he can't play lead" doesn't mean anything. He is absolutely better than Bumblefoot (don't forget I saw the band in 2006, I was close to the stage, I saw everyone of them very, very close) and I can't see DJ Ashba taking a central role in the band because he is just new, it would be very disrespecfull, in my opinion, for Richard and Ron.

To be the main guitarist in GN'R, you have to deserve it both by talent and longevity in the band. Richard is the only one, among the 3 guitarists, who has both, talent and longevity in the band. It seems natural to me that he will be the natural guitar leader of the band, it's a question of recognizion and respect.

But I agree with you. It will be Axl's decision I suppose, I just hope Axl will FINALLY let Richard be important in the band because he has always put him in the shadow and I never understood why he did that. It's like having a genius child in your family but punishing him by locking him in the room, you see?. I hope it will change now.

All in all, it's just very complicated to manage 3 guitar players. It's much better when there are 2 guys, 50/50, no jealousy, no frustration, each of them is important and have responsabilities in the band.

I really agree with what you say, it's a lot of strategy in fact between the 3 guitarists  :hihi:

But one thing about Ashba : if he were to replace Finck note for note, I mean at 100%, don't you think Ron and Richard would be like "ehhh...WTF? I've been in the band for years and this guy just got the job and is the main player! dawn it!". There's a risk of an unhealthy situation of competition whre Ron and Richard (especially him since he is in for 8 years now) would feel hurt and frustrated. DJ Ashba has to PROOVE he is good for the band (and I'm sure he is but he needs experience), you know, he just can't join in the band and be the main guitarist like that, or it would create tension (well, I suppose), even if he is a nice guy.

It's quite... political. You've to be carefull with the egos in a band. Axl has to be carefull about that and not frustrate Richard (or Ron).

All in all, it's just very complicated to manage 3 guitar players. It's much better when there are 2 guys, 50/50, no jealousy, no frustration, each of them is important and have responsabilities in the band.

Didn't you used to be here before?

Do you think the band agree with 3 Guitar Players? I remember an interview you did with Tommy in 2004 after a VGH show when he said after the BH's departure that the band didn't need a 3rd player and was fine with 2 players... did you already forget that?  :)

You know, it's a question I would have loved to ask to Axl, but I was busy when he was online answering fans questions. I wasn't available to ask him this question.

I think it would be very interesting to have his opinion on this. Talking about influence, responsability of each member in the band and yes, talking about leadership.

Maybe next time  :peace:

What about beeing important in the band?  :P  

You have more responsability when you play in a 2 guitar players band, you are more important because you play more parts. You have more exposure. People know you better and you have more input on the music, that's it. :peace:
Look, Chinese Democracy is a great record, but there's not a really a "Star" on Guitar on this record, because on one song there is this player, on the next song there's another player, the next one another player etc... You just can't identify one or two influencial guitarists all along the record. None of them play enough for that.

Don't you think the band needs a Star on Guitar like Slash in the old band? Don't you feel like it's missing? not necessarily musically, but in term of influence and personality. Something like "this guy is on the record from begining to the end and I can feel his presence all over the record with Axl".


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PS : this is for jarmo

Do you think the band agree with 3 Guitar Players? I remember an interview you did with Tommy in 2004 after a VGH show when he said after the BH's departure that the band didn't need a 3rd player and was fine with 2 players... did you already forget that?  :)

Don't you think the 3 players idea is a way to avoide any of them to be too important and a way for Axl to keep control over the band?
That's the way I see it. That's just my opinion of course, I don't pretend to hold the truth. Axl tried to do that with Slash with Paul Tobias, by bringing a new "collaborator" in order to reduce Slash influence in the band. It's very political. That's the impression I've always had. But maybe I'm wrong, I don't know. What do you think?

Why so many guitars on 'Chinese Democracy'?

Why not?

Seriously, past Guns records have only two. Why did you feel the need for more on this endeavor?

I understand it's for whatever reason a bit of a challenge for most people to feel comfortable in their minds with any band having more than two guitarists, but technically, as far as our recording goes, we're a bit more alike with the older recordings than one might think. On the older records, though, it's very distinct that there are generally two guitar parts -- each part is actually performed and recorded twice, giving a fuller sound, so in effect you have four guitars. Leads and fills are another pass, and often songs were originally written and demos were done with other guitarists as well.

On 'Chinese,' instead of having the same player double his part, we chose to add another voice and either each player's own take on the part or their take of another's, then there's leads and fills which vary from one person or a few on a track. Also on this record, though, you may have one player playing more than one part in a section; they generally tend to be two distinct parts and not overdubs or harmonizing with their own leads or fills. No way is better than another; it's just whatever works for what you're trying to do, what you personally want or for whatever reason you feel you either need, choose or like.

For this record, I wanted a blend of different-style sounds and approaches; some at least a bit unique to the individual players and their takes on these songs. I feel the different personalities and techniques give the material its own sense of originality. Live, I prefer the more solid approach of the three guitars now, especially as the performances with the rhythm are more energetic, consistent and reliable. It was fun having Izzy on board a bit adding yet another voice to the mix and seemed to work better for the songs this way, as opposed to having him by himself.

Do you really think you can when your have a minimal input on guitar, and in the band?

I think many of the songs would lose some of their depth and unique "flavoring" with only two guitar players live as well.  I'm sure If The World could be done with two guitar players, but .... it'd be missing a lot with just two guitarists.