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GUNS N' ROSES Nominated For ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME Induction - Sep. 27, 2011

GUNS N' ROSES is among 15 finalists for induction into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame. Also hitting the ballot for the first time are THE CURE, HEART, JOAN JETT AND THE BLACKHEARTS, ERIC B. AND RAKIM, THE SPINNERS, THE SMALL FACES/FACES, FREDDY KING and RUFUS WITH CHAKA KHAN, while previous nominees BEASTIE BOYS, LAURA NYRO, WAR DONOVAN and RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS also made the cut. Votes will be cast by a group of more than 500 musicians and industry professionals; of the 15 nominees, the five that get the most votes will be announced in January and inducted into the Hall Of Fame at its 27th annual ceremony on April 14, 2012 in Cleveland, Ohio, home to the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame And Museum.

GUNS N' ROSES was nominated in its first year of eligibility.

"It's a great honor," former GUNS N' ROSES guitarist Gilby Clarke told The Plain Dealer. "The band deserves it. It was a long time coming."

Acts become eligible 25 years after the release of their first record.

Eccentric singer Axl Rose is the only original member of the current GUNS N' ROSES lineup, and while he has recently been on friendlier terms with guitarist Izzy Stradlin and bass player Duff McKagan, he and guitarist Slash are not on speaking terms.

Asked about what the former bandmates will do if they are inducted, Slash said, "We'll cross that bridge when we get there . . . If they're gonna pass you over, I don't think it's worth worrying about too much."

Earlier this year, former GUNS N' ROSES bassist Duff McKagan spoke to MusicRadar.com about the possibility of the band being inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame.

"My only experience with the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame was when VELVET REVOLVER played it and we were inducting VAN HALEN," he said. "That whole band was supposed to be there, including David Lee Roth ? we were going to do a song with him. It all started falling apart in the two weeks leading up to the gig. It was sad to watch?

"We were just the innocent band that was there to play VAN HALEN songs, and we saw their whole thing crumble. To see Michael Anthony and Sammy Hagar show up, when it was supposed to be everybody... Michael and Sammy were really cool guys and good sports about it, but they took all the heat over the situation. A lot of heat.

"I don't know if I want to set myself up for heat. It's going to be a debacle, isn't it? A press debacle. I just don't know what else to say about it."

Slash said that he was glad to see Alice Cooper going in this year, and as for who has been overlooked, the guitarist said, "The one that comes to mind right off the bat ? and it's not even a band that I'm a huge fan of but definitely is eligible ? is KISS. And I know that they've been passed over every fucking year."

http://rockhall.com/get-involved/interact/poll/

Vote for GN'R.

This is a difficult one isn`t it ? it`s good to be recognised, but all it does is open old wounds and bring up reunion talk and new verses old and then Axl gets all the crap thrown at him maybe it`s best not to win!

Guns in the lead-let's blow every other band away.

Reunion talk will be around Guns no matter what happens.

Congrats GNR.  :D

"April 14, 2012"

better prepare, Axl   ;)

I think they will win for sure, and yes there will be alot of drama. :hihi: KISS deserves recognition as well. :beer:

i dont think that we will see slash there its either he or axl ... and axl of course mayby other old members thou
or maybe no one just gilby ;D

Deep Purple, Judas Priest, Rush and Stevie Ray Vaughan come to mind as the most shocking snubs in my opinion. Then there are also Kiss (as you pointed out), Bad Company, Thin Lizzy and Iron Maiden (although I'm not a huge fan of Maiden they deserve to be there)... and there are probably more.

Edit: I actually forgot about Mot?rhead and then there is also M?tley Cr?e.

I'm not holding my breathe for classic GN'R to show up, but I'd tune in if The Faces made an appearance.
Such an underrated band.

http://rockhall.com/inductees/

http://www.670kboi.com/rssItem.asp?feedid=115&itemid=29730995

They should get in on the first ballot, but who knows....they deserve it.....Would be an interesting ceremony though lol.........

Would be pretty awesome if they actualy did something with it (Guns meaning)

Or Izzy could just perform with Duff, Slash and steven or gilby and matt or whatever...

Here's a poll the RARHOF is conducting.  So far, GN'R is in the lead.  Let's keep 'em there!   : ok:

http://rockhall.com/get-involved/interact/poll/

Well I am hoping if and when they are inducted that they forget about things for a night and stand together and remember that they wouldn't be where they are now without having been together in the first place.

They won't get in this year. (Not that I think they shouldn't) The RNRHOF is usually so douchy and if the past is any indication, they skip over a lot of bands that should have gotten in their first year of eligibility. It'll be a few years before they finally get inducted.

Who decides what members get inducted?  I know Metallica made the decision for their induction.  Is that how it always works?

I was pretty surprised the Chili Peppers didn't get in on the first ballot last year. Out of those nominees I can't imagine how RHCP and GNR don't get in. But the Hall is funny like that. Also, they really fucked up by letting all this hip hop music in. Is that rock and roll? And if we let in hip hop where does it stop?

I thought the Hall decided and Metallica was just nice enough to invite all the members to the event.  I could be wrong though.

James said that they decided if you played on a record you were in.  So that meant James, Lars, Kirk,Jason, Robert, Cliff no Dave Mustaine or Rod McGoveny

I'm not sure how they decide, but seems a no brainer to me.

Axl, Izzy, Slash, Duff, Steven, Sorum.

Congrats GNR! 

Would love to see the original 5 do a song or two if they get inducted.  Wont happen though.  Think Axl addressed it before and said he wouldnt do it.   
If they done it, public demand for a reunion would be huge.  which obviosuly wouldnt be very good for the current band

Congrats to GN'R indeed, and I would love for them to be inducted but for me the new band would have to be "the" GN'R what's on show. I know alot of your will think that this is stupid, but that's the truth. GN'R is still rocking today, so if GN'R get inducted the Guns N' Roses of 2011 are the band who the festivities should be about.

Some people might not like it done that way, especially the oldschool fans, but the fact is, is that it would have to be this way for it to go ahead. Guns N' Roses gets inducted = Guns N' Roses of 2012 will turn up... simple.  :)

The problem with that school of thought is that the new lineup has done nothing that would qualify them for the Hall of Fame.  No matter what we think here, one album with poor sales and no hits does not qualify you for the HOF.

They would be getting in almost exclusively on what they did between 1987 and 1993.

I agree, with Dizzy as well.  He is the original keyboard player, plays on the Illusions and has been in the band since 89.

Yea I guess I could see Dizzy in there.

They'll get in on the first ballot. None of the snubbed bands can lay claim to being the biggest rock act on the planet for 3-4 years. That is very rare company to be in. Besides, Rolling Stone Magazine loves them. The magazine's publisher is the main guy who decides which artists make it in. He loves Guns probably because he enjoys their music but also because of the controversy that has always surrounded the band, which helps sell more magazines.

Here's my prediction: Axl never even responds to the HOF about who to induct so they go with the Appetite lineup by default. Everyone stays away except Steven Adler who gives a mumbling, slightly embarassing acceptance speech. Don't get your hopes up about this ceremony fellow GNR fans.

That being said, the HOF is a total joke if they don't get in on the first ballot.

I can't picture Axl or Izzy showing up, but wouldn't be surprised if Slash, Duff, Steven and Matt did.
It's all or nothing though. Otherwise I can't imagine it creating much interest. HOFs in general sort of seem like a joke anyway.

so whats Axl goin to do?
giving some newer official press release or some rant about it? ignoring the whole thing? touring during that time? joining the classic line-up for that 1 time? hiding again when time has come for RAR HOF?

Poll is rigged by a RHCP voting bot. Going up by around one vote per second. The sad thing is the nerd who did it probably thinks he's making an impact, but the reality is rigging the poll will only make the Hall of Fame even more reluctant to induct RHCP. It's a political decision by a small number of people. Apparently there is already resistance to RHCP or they would have already made it in. One of their fans hacking the poll will only make it even more difficult for them to get in.

Nothing against Gilby Clarke, but I was surprised to see the first comment from him "It's a great honor."

But this is not a surprise. :D

From Steven Adler:

RT @MAdlerLV: Uncle Steven!! RT @samantharonson: GN'R NOMINEES TO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME FOR 2012! VOTE ONLINE GUYS! PLEASE!

2 hours ago via UberSocial for BlackBerry

Can't this link be posted in the main section? The Red Hot Chili Peppers have pulled ahead.

This story is reported all over the press, even on tv! I come to my GNR fan site and it's in the fucking dead horse section. Sort your life out Jarmo!

Posting it in the main section won't change anything. There is a RHCP voting bot that is rigging the results. It's voting around one time every second. There is no way to keep up with that unless you rig it in favor of GN'R.

hmm. in my opinion the visceral hatred between Axl and Slash prevents anything concerning this.

the nicest way to do it would be having ALL the members, original and present, showing up together.

Congrats to GNR dont hold your breath for a reunion tho!

From MTV:

Guns N' Roses, Eric B. & Rakim Nab Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Nods
Joan Jett, Heart, the Cure and the Spinners also among nominees.

Led by the mercurial Rose, GN'R re-invented hard rock with 1987's Appetite for Destruction, which featured such indelible glam-punk hits as "Welcome to the Jungle," "Paradise City," "Sweet Child o' Mine" and "It's So Easy." The band splintered a decade later amid a clash of egos, disagreement over musical direction and drug issues that resulted in Rose soldiering on alone with a parade of replacement sidemen.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1671580/guns-n-roses-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame.jhtml

More:

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44685430/ns/today-entertainment/

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2011/09/rock-hall-nominees-guns-roses-red-hot-chili-peppers.html

Pic's 2006 & 2010

http://rockhall.com/get-involved/interact/poll/

HOF decides

Bruce Springsteen got in but the E Street band did not.

yeah that was different though because they are considered 2 different artists, that was also like 15 years ago, I know as recently as 2009 Metallica decided who would get in from their band.  Maybe its different depending on the circumstance.  I think the Hall should decide, since they are the ones inducting them.

I think it's RIDICULOUS that this thread is in the "Dead Horse" section of the website.

Without old Guns, there would have never been the opportunity for new Guns.

I guess the webmaster can do what he wants (or has to) to keep Axl happy, but for those of us who were around in 1987 to buy Appetite, it sure would be fucking nice for at least a civil ceremony where the ORIGINAL BAND can appear onstage together and be honored for their contribution to rock music.

According to this site, yes:

http://whiplash.net/materias/news_847/138978-gunsnroses.html

I'm having a deja vu moment. 

I think this is the third time.  :hihi:

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/27/guns-n-roses-and-eric-b-rakim-crack-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-nominee-list/

we need people to vote !!!


http://rockhall.com/get-involved/interact/poll/

i think thi should envolve the new guns too !!!

Guns N' Roses, the Cure, Red Hot Chili Peppers Nominated for Rock and Roll Hall of FameOther nominees include Erik B. and Rakim, Joan Jett, the Small Faces/Faces, Beastie Boys and Donovan
 Comment 55
By Andy Greene
September 27, 2011 4:45 AM ET Slash and Axl Rose of Guns N' Roses perform in St. Paul, Minnesota.Jim Steinfeldt/Michael Ochs Archives/GettyImagesNominations for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?s class of 2012 are in. Guns N? Roses, the Cure, Heart, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Eric B. and Rakim, the Spinners, the Small Faces/Faces, Freddie King and Rufus with Chaka Khan are all hitting the ballot for the first time, while previous nominees Beastie Boys, Laura Nyro, War, Donna Summer, Donovan and Red Hot Chili Peppers also made the cut. The top vote-getters will be inducted on April 14th, 2012 in Cleveland, Ohio, home to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum.

Artists that released their first single or album in 1986 or earlier were eligible for this year's ballot. "The 2012 Nominees embody the broad scope of what ?rock & roll? means,? said Joel Peresman, President and CEO of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation. ?From vocal groups to hip-hop, from singer-songwriters to hard rocking artists, this group represents the spirit of what we celebrate at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.?

Many bands ? including the Talking Heads, Cream, the Police and Led Zeppelin ? have put aside longstanding feuds to perform at the Rock and Hall Fall of Fame induction ceremony. If Guns N' Roses are inducted, the group's longtime fans will certainly be hoping for a reunion. "I have no idea how that's supposed to go," Slash said in a 2010 interview when asked about a Hall of Fame reunion. "If Axl, Duff, Izzy and myself start communicating, it could go one way. It we don't, God knows."

In a 2008 fan forum interview, Axl Rose was asked about the possibility of a Guns N' Roses reunion at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. "Never thought about that," he wrote. "Not to offend anyone but personally I don?t have an interest and other than inducting Elton don?t quite get what it is exactly and who decides what. It seems to mean more to some than others and more so amongst fans. It?s nice to get recognition and have some form of acceptance but in regards to joining others the price is too high and just not worth it. It?s a ways away and seems a bit presumptuous to be contemplating being inducted now."

Should be an interesting year leading up to the awards.  GN'R should get in first try.

http://rockhall.com/get-involved/interact/poll/

VOTE !!!!

http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/27/rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-announces-2012-nominations/?&hpt=hp_c2

Well, that will be interesting...

Didn't see the post below - sorry for the double up

Jarmo, I totally agree that this belongs in the Dead Horse section, but would you just leave this here so we don't have to see 20,000 different people post it. It's getting annoying, haha.

GNR and RHCP going in the same year? Shit I may have to go to Cleveland for that.

yeah im considering a trip for this.  GN'R going to the Hall of Fame is once in a lifetime, no mater who shows or doesnt show.

Hmm...HitFix doesn't seem to give GN'R much of a chance of getting in on the first ballot.  They also have a comment section, so if you'd like to (respectfully) disagree, I'm sure they'd love the feedback.

http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/the-beat-goes-on/posts/commentary-did-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-get-it-right-who-gets-our-vote

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2011/09/rock-hall-nominees-guns-roses-red-hot-chili-peppers.html

Guns N' Roses, Red Hot Chili Peppers among Rock Hall nominees
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Guns N? Roses, the Beastie Boys, the Red Hot Chili Peppers, Eric B. & Rakim and the Cure are among the 15 nominees for induction as the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?s class of 2012.

In addition, ?70s female-fronted rock acts Heart and Joan Jett & the Blackhearts are under consideration along with singer-songwriter Laura Nyro, disco queen Donna Summer, R&B collective War and British rock group Small Faces. Blues guitarist and singer Freddie King, R&B band the Spinners and Scottish singer-songwriter Donovan round out the latest batch of Hall of Fame nominees.

Inductees are typically announced in December, ahead of a ceremony that takes place in New York in March.

At least 25 years must have elapsed since a musician or group released its debut recording for the act to be eligible for induction. That makes Guns N? Roses eligible for the first time because the L.A. hard rock outfit?s debut album, ?Appetite for Destruction,? was released in 1987. Likewise, this is the first year of eligibility for rap duo Eric B. & Rakim, whose debut, ?Paid in Full,? also appeared in 1987.

King and Donovan are the senior members of this year?s nominees, having released their first recordings in 1961 and 1965, respectively.

Because of the rancor over the years between Guns N' Roses founding member Axl Rose and former members of the band who have since departed, including guitarist Slash, the group's induction sets up the prospect of a dramatic reunion, if all parties opt to set aside their differences for the occasion. In a similar situation, Creedence Clearwater Revival singer, guitarist and songwriter John Fogerty refused to join with the Bay Area band's surviving members -- bassist Stu Cook and drummer Doug Clifford -- when Creedence was inducted in 1993.

Guns N Roses trending at #9 on Yahoo

ive never liked the whole  rock n roll hall of fame thing its like the hard rock cafes its anti rock n roll all over it self

...so i would kinda like if guns(old and current members) would go fuck this aint happening but im sure that some dude will come anyway
just imagine only steven and gilby there . and that might happen



oh WHY THEY ALL HAVE SUITS THERE? :no:

From Duff McKagan to the Miami Herald:

Were you surprised about the Hall of Fame?

Duff McKagan: Yeah, I don?t really know what to make of that yet. That?s quite an honor and we will see what happens. I woke up very early on the West Coast and I got a couple texts from the East Coast ? ?Congratulations, congratulations.? I had to get writing and get started for the book release and then go work out with my sensei.

Would you all play live again if inducted?

Duff McKagan: Oh, I don?t know (laughing). I guess I have to start preparing myself for these questions.

So why are we voting? :D

Putting aside the fact of who performs...... how to attend to the event? Is it open to public? Just being there is history......

The ceremony will be open to the public, this year.  If GnR are inducted, I plan on going with a friend of mine who is also a GnR junkie.  VIP tables go for $50,000.00 or $3,000 to $5,000 per person.  Don't worry though, balcony seats supposedly are more reasonable at $100.00 or less.  Supposedly, tickets go on sale in December. 

http://rockhall.com/event/2012-inductions/

I know - I wondered about that myself!  We have nothing to do with it!   

Just listened to last Wednesday's Howard Stern Show and during the news Robin brought up the candidates for the Rock Hall.  Howard said that GNR was an awesome band and if any band deserved to get in, it would be them.  It was nice to hear.  No shots taken at Axl or anything.  They also played a clip of Joseph Gordon Levitt on Fallon last week doing his Axl impression and they got a big kick out of that.  Then the show ended and the first commercial afterwards was the Live Nation spot for their show at the IZod Center.

Hey gunenrs... ask Doug Hobson what think about this.  8)

Is this topic still going to be a dead horse even after they are inducted? 

One more comment on this in light of Axl being on Eddie Trunk and they asking him about it.

As a GNR fan Old and new, here is what would make me the most happy as a GNR fan.


GNR need closure. I am fine with never having a "Reunion" as far as tour/album goes. Completely fine with that. The lineup they got right now is amazing, DJ was the missing piece and I think they have a chemistry and greatness and can't wait to hear a new album.


BUT


The old chapter needs closure once and for all. the way it ended sucks.I contend a lot of the problem with the old band were simply Drug and alcohol related. However, now Slash and Duff are sober, I would like to see just ONE night, they reunite to accept the award, bury the hatchet, let go of whatever grudge and then move on with a clean break that leaves a great taste in the fan's mouth and let's even Axl and Slash put some of that old anger/resentment to rest which would also be great for the both of them.

They don't have to reunite,tour,record an album, but just bury the hatchet, Accept the award for all the diehard loyal fans and then U no longer have that monkey on your back.

Can't wait to see his response.

They are all older and wiser now, as you said man,they are all clean now and that seemed to be part of the problem with the break up as a whole. They went threw a lot of shit together, to me it just makes sense to except an award that they earned together as a band. hell as brothers. Just to stand next to each other for 5 min and say thank you and accept the award.

This may be the wrong place for this response but am I the only one that does not want to see an Axl/Slash reunion ? I want to hear more music from the current members, I would like to hear more music with Robin and Buckethead, and hear what new things DJ brings to the band. I am not interested in Axl/Slash. I am interested in Guns N' Roses 2001 to the present

Im not talkin bout a reunion. Just to tie a nice bow on Original lineup and give the fans their proper goodbye. then move on with what u are doing now.

I'm as big of a fan of classic Guns as there is, and I'm not sure I'd be interested in that lineup making new music.
Of course I would love to hear new AFD/UYI caliber music, but I'm not sure they have that in them at this stage of their careers.
Part of me says that chemistry will always be there, but maybe the damage between Axl and Slash is beyond repair.
As it it stands today, that lineup went out on top. Maybe it's best to leave it that way.

I do agree though that it would be cool to see them take the stage for the R&R HOF.
No doubt in my mind they would still be the best live band on the planet, if only for one night.

I thought the line up gave its proper goodbye, they went out in front of 70,000 people in Argentina as the biggest band in the world.  I thought that "Live Era" was the nice bow that wrapped it all up.  That's what the purpose of the record was.

I agree totally, what better way to say goodbye than to finish the way the original GN'R did. In front of 70,000 Argentinians, screaming their heads off, and on top of that to complete the longest tour in rock history with that same show.

I guess people could argue that it wasn't a proper goodbye, considering no one knew it was going to be the "last" show of original GN'R if you like. But I still don't think you could go out in a better way than they did in 1993.

I don't think anyone from the "original lineup" owes any of us fans sh-t.  For what - our memories from our youth?  They used to work together, and people quit the company for other opportunities.  Should I have a reunion from the grocery store I worked at in college in 1993 because the old boss is retiring and wants everyoone to make nice??   ;)

I suppose it would be "nice" if everyone was together for one night, in some respects.  But then, all Axl and the current members will have to deal with more reunion stuff ad nauseum, and I don't want them to have to.  This lineup has far more talent and a richer sound than GNR circa 1989...and I also want more new music!

Just my two cents...

I agree that they don't owe us anything. Doesn't mean fans wouldn't want to see it.
I hear the "quit the company" comparison a lot. It really doesn't work. Don't take this the wrong way, but no one cares about the grocery store you worked at in college. No one came to the grocery store to see you personally.
Guns N' Roses on the other hand, at one point in time, was the biggest band in the world. At a time when rock dominated the airwaves, they were on top of the mountain.

Axl, Slash, Steven, Duff, Izzy, Matt, Gilby and the current members of GN'R will have to deal with more reunion stuff ad nauseum until they are 6 feet underground.
That's just the way it is. While you, and the majority of people on this forum may have the opinion that "This lineup has far more talent and a richer sound than GNR circa 1989", you are very much in the minority.

Just like you want to hear more music from the current lineup, the majority of GN'R fans around the world would prefer to hear the classic.
I'm not personally sure where I stand. I know which band I prefer, but like I said, they went out on top.
I'd rather they stay that way, then release lackluster efforts well into the twilight of their careers like so many bands before them have done.

Axl said in an interview with Kurt Loder that "Live Era" was a "farewell" to the old line-up.  So that's that.

Yes, and whenever a member of any band says there will never be a reunion, they ALWAYS remain true to their word.   I mean, there are absolutely NO examples in the history of rock n roll where someone said "no reunion" and then reunited later with their estranged bandmates.  ::)

Not what I said.  Limulus said that Live Era was not intended as a farewell to the old band, Axl said otherwise, so that ends THAT particular debate.

As for people who are pining for a reunion here in 2011, have you not been paying attention for the last 17 years?  I really am shocked that this discussion still comes up so often.

U guys spin and argue anything
Argentina wasn't a "GOODBYE"

please

And please don't compare working at a grocery store to being in a band that effected and touched millions of peoples' lives.

They had a terrible fallen out..

Would be similar if u and a brother or a parent had a falling out...

Not to mention receiving the highest music honor that can be bestowed onto someone...

Just don't want a repeat of VH.. we deserve better than that.

wait, i was refering to things you've said, not anyone else:

"I thought that "Live Era" was the nice bow that wrapped it all up.  That's what the purpose of the record was."

because right now i cant remember or even find Axl ever said that farewell-thing, so please gimme the exact Axl quote with Kurt Loder and "Live Era" goodbye intention from old Guns.
"farewell" for being the last officially old Guns release (not counting GH)....ok, other than that i highly disagree on this subject as Axl's voice mostly isnt any near from the true Live Era 1985-1993, there are topics on boards with his exact re-sung words from his post old Guns/end of the 90s-voice. easy to find, easy to hear yourself. and you basically cant really argue for this being a "nice farewell bow", doesnt work.

i couldn't find anything interview either,but i will say this i remember Axl said something along the lines Live Era is a way for the fans to say goodbye to that line up

From the 1999 MTV phone interview with Kurt Loder, it is archived here in the news section of HTGTH...

Rose: And it really wasn't something we were trying to do. We were trying to make things work with Slash for a very, very long time... about three and a half years.

Loder: Wow. Jeez. That's a shame, because it seemed like such a tight unit. This live album seems like a farewell to that era.

Rose: It is exactly that. It's a farewell to that.... It was something we wanted to give to the public in a way of saying farewell. It was a very difficult thing to do, as listening to it and the people involved... [it] wasn't the most emotionally pleasant thing to do.

ok, thanks.
but thats still just "releasewise" because it rarely touchs that Era with Axl's voice. and when it does it often comes from already official released video/audio before. would be nice to hear Axl's thoughts on all the re-recording at some point.

such a great live-band hardly released anything real live and good  :-\

Is this good or bad for us Youngstown people???

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/04/business/in-rock-hall-of-fame-vote-a-battle-of-industry-egos.html?_r=1&ref=music (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/04/business/in-rock-hall-of-fame-vote-a-battle-of-industry-egos.html?_r=1&ref=music)

From Eddie Trunk:

I have it from a very good source that @gunsnroses will get inducted for the R&R Hall 1st time eligible when officially announced this Wed.

Oh man, let the speculation of who will attend and perform begin. Honestly i hope all the original lineup does attend and can for at least one night put things aside and play together.

Wow that's pretty damn cool... everyone who has been apart of the band... deserves this honor.

I'm wondering if anyone has informed any of the members current and past.

Very cool honor. The HOF is a bit of a subjective mess of an organization, but first ballot is quite a statement.

Send Ron!

Technically, it's not "official" yet, but that won't stop the speculation that's already been rampant ever since they were nominated.  Some interesting times lay ahead.

True but this is without a doubt deserved. AFD made a HUGE impact on music.

That's true but i just can't see Eddie Trunk saying this unless his source was absolutely certain.

This thread isn't meant to be some Old vs New who should, who shouldn't

Its to celebrate the band we all love for an extraordinary honor that obviously means a lot to all of them.

Words can't describe how I'm feeling right now.

Congratulations to the band.

Well played...well played.

I love this band.

I hope Axl only performs with the current guns n roses.  :peace:

I disagree, they ALL played a part in the bands great history and they should ALL play.

So damn awesome! It would be great if Axl could do like one song with the classic lineup including Steven, one song with GNR II, and maybe one more song with everyone performing in some way together.


Really curious how this will play out. Better not go the way Van Halen's did. Something like that would be a damn shame. Anyway congratulations Axl and Guns n' Fuckin Roses!

OH MY GOD this is awesome!!! seriously what an honor for everyone who has been involved in Guns N' Roses past, present and future!!

First off, let me say if I sound shocked it has nothing to do with me thinking Guns N' Roses didn't deserve to be in, I am of the opinion if a band like GN'R is not in, then the Hall of Fame shouldn't exist period.  They are a no brainer, Hall of Fame band, no doubt about it.

HOWEVER, we know that the people who do the voting sometimes like to make an example out of an obvious no brainer, and make them wait to get in.  It is complete bullshit, as I'm sure we all have bands who we think deserve induction that keep getting the shaft.  I had feared that since GN'R is such an obvious band who deserves it, the powers that be would pull their typical bullshit and keep them out a year, its almost like they like to make the Hall of Fame more about themselves as opposed to the artists. (For example Black Sabbath and Van Halen) I am glad to see that Guns N Roses get in on the first try, and once this becomes Official on Wed, I will be booking my trip to Cleveland!!!!

what does eddie trunk care?  the rock and roll hall of fame is a joke to him.... right?

but if this is true then...
CONGRATULATIONS GNR!!!!  :beer: :beer:  CONGRATULATIONS GNR!!!!

'They should all play'? Let's be clear this is an honour for Old Guns! If you wanna play safe lets call it an honour for Axl. Now more importantly can one get tickets to induction ceremony??

Congratulations to Guns N' Roses, past and present members.  And everyone that helped make it happen.

Yes, i believe the general public can attend this event.

Congratulations Guys!! I'm not big on honors like this but it is held as one of the biggest honors you can receive. So I have to admit this is totally cool. Not sure how this is going to go down but I am looking forward too seeing what happens.

Cool,i would love to see the clasic line-up at least in the same photo.I think its imposible ,but sometimes miracles happen....and shit also. :hihi:

If it is announced tomorrow...well, he's playing Youngstown, which for all intents and purposes is Cleveland for this tour.  As we all know, Cleveland is home to the RnR HOF.   I hope he hears the news and decides to reward those in attendance with a really long set or maybe some surprises! :drool:

It's a short drive to Cleveland.  Depending on who attends, I may be there.

Congratulations GN'R !@ From Genesis To Abril 2012.

Ole > RIP
West > RIP

Afd Line Up, Ilussion Line Up, CHinDem Line Up, 2001/2002/2006/2007 Line Up, etc, etc...

All Congratulations !@

 :beer:

I can never understand what the hell you write.

Anyways, looks like I will be heading to Ohio in April!

Well if I'm not mistaken the ceremony is usually in new York but I hope it is in Cleveland.

This is fabulous news! However it plays out will certainly be exciting!

Well, one thing's for certain. Invited or not, we know Steven will be there. (And I wouldn't be surprised if he's the only one that shows up) I really don't expect anything major to happen. I highly doubt Axl and certain others will even share the same room together, much less the stage.

I remember after the Van Halen fiasco, a representative for the HOF said they would never go through that again. Curious if Axl had to agree to something prior to them getting inducted. Considering his feelings on the Metal Show interview and how much he knew it meant to the fans, we may be in for a surprise. Maybe they all had to agree to something. Maybe like Axl would agree to do one song with the old lineup and Slash would agree to play a song with the current group.

Would be surreal seeing Slash jamming with and right next to Ron Thal.

I think you are mistaken...

http://www.couragepac.com/rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-induction-ceremony-booked-for-april-14-2012-at-public-auditorium-in-cleveland-2/

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I dont think the Hall of Fame itself or its representatives have anything to do with inducting Guns N' Roses.  Various musicians and the members of the media actually do the voting.  So Axl or any of the old members having to agree to anything to get in probably didn't happen.

However now that they are in , the Hall of Fame or its reps may try to do something to prevent a Van Halen situation, whether it be who they extend invitations to, or whatever restrictions they put on the event.  NOW the ball would be in the HOF's court, I don't think they had any say prior to the vote.

If this is true congrats!! This will be interesting to see how it plays out. NY Times  had an article where they state that an artist who is inducted into the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame  can increase sales of their records by 40%-60%. The article also stated that  IF the original band were to reunite after the HOF then they would make hundred of millions of dollars.Here is the link: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/04/business/in-rock-hall-of-fame-vote-a-battle-of-industry-egos.html?pagewanted=all . So this will be interesting to say the least.

Well thankfully we all know Axl doesn't do anything for money unless he wants too. This thread should be in the dead horse section, so I apologize for contributing to the same ole argument, but it would actually bother me to see Axl get onstage with Slash. He's worked way too hard and been way to adament about rebuilding Guns, it would almost seem as if he'd be throwing all that hard work away. I hope, and I'd bet money, that it won't happen.

Well then... why play any of the classic songs at concerts at all? If Axl truly wanted to distance himself from Slash and the old lineup, he should only perform songs off Chinese Democracy. I would not be against that at all mind you. I would actually love to hear every song off Chinese Democracy performed live. I would happily have Axl stop doing some of the older songs if it meant I could also hear If The World and TWAT added to the current setlist.

amen......i totally agree

I totally disagree. I'm glad that he's playing AFD songs. That was what people want to hear. CD was good, but not as good as the classic stuff. I'm curious when to hear stuff from this lineup since I think it would be a much better album. Axl's voice is back and this band is really good! I do think it will be interesting to see Axl and Slash play together at the HOF. This isn't a Dead Horse topic btw. The induction of the HOF creates new angles for GNR.

I want Axl with his boys up there, not the 'old' guns.

Everyone that was an official member and contributed significantly should get recognition.

That's right too, GNR its like a big family

Everyone that contributed to AFD, Lies, UYI and CD deserves to be recognized, period. They all played a part in the bands history.

I'd love to see Axl doing the "Dublin Protest" thing where his stood on the spot and sung, with the AFD line-up on a couple of songs and then bring on the current line-up and show the others what they could of had, playing TWAT, TIL and Sorry...  :smoking:

+1 in truth, my last post was tongue in cheek, but would be cool if it happened.

My guess is that the older music got GNR in the Hall, not any bit of Chinese (although good).  -I think it should be the guys who contributed on the older albums.  The new band just hasn't done enough yet.

Or maybe play a couple older songs with those guys.  And then bring out new band and play a new song.

Guys, I hate to be Debbie Downer here. But I wouldn't get your hopes up about performances or anything like that. Something tells me Axl won't get involved and we'll have some combination of Slash, Duff, Steven accepting. Some newer rock group will perform a fairly bad GNR cover.

I hope I'm wrong but I really don't want to read "this ceremony was a joke" type comments on here come March or whenever this is. Keep your expectations low and hope to be pleasantly surprised.

we will be subjected to witness Asking Alexandria perform wttj to close the show  :nervous:

I'm not so sure. Axl on that metal show didn't seem opposed to being there. He understands what an honor this is.

Well the new guys are playing the hell out of the back catalogue.!

This would be the ideal way to go.

This is amazing for guns n roses. im happy for all members. My only question is, if you want the members who helped out with CD does that mean some of you are expecting BH Brain and others to be there too?

I really love Buckethead. I miss him and really hope he contributes to future albums. His work on Chinese Democracy is in another Universe. I loved the oddness of him and Axl together too. It was just so strangely beautiful. So fuck yea why not.

It would be nice to see everyone that contributed to all albums but i don't know if you could fit them all on the stage!

I totally agree. Buckethead is amazing.

If Tracy and Roberta aren't there, I'm boycotting  :smoking:

Guys....don't start with the whole "Who should be there, who shouldn't" battle back and forth. The band, whether it be current or past members, will come to an agreement, and certain members out of the small Metropolis known as GnRland will show up. I'm not saying it will be an amicable agreement, but it'll be an agreement  :hihi:

But yeah. Steven Adler is totally going to be there.

And maybe Paul Huge  ;D

I don't think it will be like the Van Halen debacle. I can totally see a one off performance by the original band.  Btw, I always thought that the ceremony was in New York not Cleveland.

AXL, SLASH, IZZY, DUFF, MATT AND DIZZY that is who should be up there maybe STEVEN

i love new guns A LOT, but those are the guys who should go up.

anyway all of this media attention is both good for OLD and NEW Guns.

very happy to be a fan

After seeing GNR in Nashville, I will say this:

Axl has an amazing true band now. I fully accept this lineup as GNR and i Def want an album and MORE


That being said

Nothing would make me happier than one final goodbye at R N R HOF

I am not asking for he and Slash to be best buds or this n that but just one final tribute to the fans and then let's turn the page once and for all.

This is a career achievement award, so let's celebrate the entire career. takes nothing away from what Axl is doing now.

Regardless of what moronic douchebags like Eddie Trunk think, Rock N Roll HOF is a HUGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Deal.  Fuck that guy.

Definitely a huge deal, I don't think he thinks it isnt, I just think he is pissed about what bands have been left out of it.  If he didn't think it was a big deal he wouldnt get so bent out of shape about it...

That being said I agree with some of the bands that he thinks should be in there and disagree with others.  I think Kiss should be in based off of their success, originality and more importantly their influence, as they have influenced everyone from Sebastian Bach to Kurt Cobain and everyone in between.  However, I'm not sure about a band like Judas Priest, if you put them in there are about 50 other bands you have to put in.  The fact that it is so exclusive makes it a bigger honor.  They don't just put any successful rock band in it..

Its all official now! Extra Extra read all about it!!!!
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2011/12/guns-n-roses-red-hot-chili-peppers-among-rock-hall-inductees.html
http://www.billboard.com/news/rock-hall-inductees-2012-guns-n-roses-beastie-1005624552.story#/news/rock-hall-inductees-2012-guns-n-roses-beastie-1005624552.story

He did say something along the lines of "we'll see what line-up they want to include", which makes me think he's not opposed to the idea, as long as it's the current line-up that gets the credit. I hope I'm wrong, obviously.

on Blabbermouth the GN'R HOF induction topic immediately is followed by a topic/message from Adler  :hihi:

My problem with the HOF is that it's gotten so politically correct and muddled in the process. They are now inducting hip hop acts like LL Cool J and disco acts like ABBA and Donna Summer. Is that rock and roll? And if they go in, aren't there 50 other bands just as deserving like you said?

That certainly doesn't surprise.  It's almost expected.  Steven has to be on cloud 9 right now, and deservedly so.

I think they have spread it out where "Rock n Roll" just now means "popular music".  It doesnt mean music that has guitars and drums anymore.

When you think about it, when it first started, Rock & Roll was almost the only popular music eligible to be entered into the Hall. So they called it the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame. As the years have gone on, more and more genres have become eligible, and there are artists in all of those genres that deserve the recognition just as much as any rock band.

That's exactly what Eddie Trunk's perspective is, and I agree with it.

Seriously, Donna Summer is in, and bands like Journey, Rush, and Judas Priest aren't?

Kind of like the WWE Hall of Fame -- Koko B. Ware is in, but Randy Savage, Ultimate Warrior, and Demolition aren't.  It's blasphemy.   :rant:



Let them get their own Hall of Fame.  A rap Hall of Fame, a country Hall of Fame, etc.  It would work better that way anyway, as more acts from any genre would get in.

True but that would be like saying u couldn't put Shawn Michaels into the WWE HOF until Savage gets in... One thing has nothing to do with the other. Those bands belong but not at GNR's expense.

No. Because it was set up for all popular music in the first place. It's not their problem that rock & roll was the only genre with bands old enough to be inducted at the time.

Here's a thought. Will Garth Brooks ever get inducted into the R&R HOF? Of course not, he's country. But you could argue that his music is closer to rock and roll than LL Cool J or Grandmaster Flash. He's also sold loads more records and had more popularity than the majority of the rock acts in there.

So that's my point. I don't have a problem with the HOF including other genres. But it seems that it's just based on what's trendy to include.

maybe? but on the other hand new GN'R aint trendy at all.

You're not comparing apples to apples there.  Shawn Michaels and Randy Savage deserve it equally, so it wouldn't matter who went in first.  Koko B. Ware does not.

Inducting Koko before those guys is like inducting Vanilla Ice before Guns N Roses.  The Shawn/Randy comparison would be like choosing between GNR and Ozzy Osbourne.