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Title: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: adman2374 on November 22, 2011, 12:22:36 PM
I am hearing they did. Any info?


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: axlrosegnr on November 22, 2011, 12:26:33 PM
The radio stations website says it's cancelled, but it's still on ticketmaster and the the Venues website?

http://www.995theriver.com/event_portal/view/calendar/event.html?event_id=160236


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on November 22, 2011, 12:29:06 PM
Guns Ní Roses Cancels Show at Albanyís Times Union Center

The night before Thanksgiving was supposed to be the biggest party night of the year that featured Guns Ní Roses at the Times Union Center.  We have bad news, Axl will be very late as in- he is not coming.  G Ní R has cancelled the show and will not be rescheduling, tickets will be refunded at point of purchase.  The only concert in town now is the Q103 Thanksgiving Hangover featuring Staind on Saturday.

The official announcement is as follows:

GUNS AND ROSES CANCELS SHOW

Albany, NY Ė Times Union Center officials received word today that the Guns and Roses show scheduled for Wednesday, November 23rd will be cancelled.

ďDue to production issues beyond the venueís control, Magic City Productions and the Times Union Center are forced to cancel the appearance of Guns N Roses set to take place on November 23, 2011. We apologize for any inconvenience,Ē said Stu Green, Magic City Productions.

Refunds for will be available at the original point of purchase beginning immediately. Tickets purchased online through Ticketmaster or over the phone will automatically be refunded to the credit card used.

Keep listening to Q103 for more details on this developing story.

http://q103albany.com/guns-n-roses-cancels-show-at-albanys-times-union-center/



Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: GNR4L on November 22, 2011, 12:32:20 PM
That sucks...


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: Briggsy on November 22, 2011, 12:42:16 PM
well this fucking blows


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on November 22, 2011, 12:47:49 PM
Guns N' Roses
Times Union Center
Albany, NY
Canceled

http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/00004744DAA0AC8A


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: adman2374 on November 22, 2011, 12:48:20 PM
fucking sucks. another cancelled gig for myself. damn


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: Lord Stan on November 22, 2011, 12:53:20 PM
It's a bit worrying as to what is the real reason  :no:


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: sworrm on November 22, 2011, 12:57:40 PM
On other forums some are wondering if its cos of Bumbles health after his accident , lets hope not, however if it is maybe call Buckethead hes still part of the GnR family right ?


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on November 22, 2011, 12:59:09 PM

ďDue to production issues beyond the venueís control, Magic City Productions and the Times Union Center are forced to cancel the appearance of Guns N Roses set to take place on November 23, 2011.


Didn't they have to cancel a show in 2006 out East because the fire marshal thought the pyro was a fire hazard for the venue or something like that?


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: rebelhipi on November 22, 2011, 01:06:31 PM
i have a feeling that this has something to do with bumble  :-[  in any case i hope that hes ok :)
anyway this sucks big time for new york fans
can i say msg january 12?  :hihi:                 just dreaming...

i hope that they wont cancel anything else

ok i hope i didnt start any rumours. mkay


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: rebelhipi on November 22, 2011, 01:10:57 PM
says hope alot


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on November 22, 2011, 01:13:37 PM

i have a feeling that this has something to do with bumble  :-[  in any case i hope that hes ok :)


Well Ron just posted something on Twitter within the hour.

I have not idea what it is, but the statement says it's a "production issue."


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: JillJaime on November 22, 2011, 01:16:56 PM
I know some bad weather is coming through the Northeast tonight into Thursday morning.  Perhaps that is the reason?


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: johnreed3344 on November 22, 2011, 01:20:29 PM
doubt weather is the reason, GNR cancelled their Maine show in 06, could be from lack of sales or maybe they were told to play earlier since the next day is thanksgiving and axl didnt want too? hope no others are cancelled, looking forward to CAMDEN


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: JillJaime on November 22, 2011, 01:22:19 PM
Well if not the weather, and hopefully not Ron (he did tweet last night he was club hopping), then maybe an issue beyond GnR's controll.  Just a big sorry to all those who were supposed to be going.


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: Galileo on November 22, 2011, 01:23:45 PM

ďDue to production issues beyond the venueís control, Magic City Productions and the Times Union Center are forced to cancel the appearance of Guns N Roses set to take place on November 23, 2011.


Didn't they have to cancel a show in 2006 out East because the fire marshal thought the pyro was a fire hazard for the venue or something like that?


Yes, it was the Portland show in 2006. Here is the press release (http://web.gunsnroses.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20061106&content_id=a1&vkey=news&fext=.jsp)


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: LIGuns on November 22, 2011, 01:25:53 PM
production issues, is it the arenas issue?


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: Bodhi on November 22, 2011, 01:32:15 PM
production issues, is it the arenas issue?

yeah it says the arena canceled the show not the band...i wouldn't jump to any "sky is falling" conclusions just yet, Im sure the band will comment on it today.


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: Bandita on November 22, 2011, 01:40:25 PM
I don't think it is weather, NE is only getting slapped with rain I believe.  Oh man, I hope whatever is going on works out.


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: GNR4L on November 22, 2011, 01:51:58 PM
Don't see what's the big deal ? Sounds like its outta the bands control.


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: Cornell on November 22, 2011, 01:58:08 PM
It's not the weather.  It's not bad around here.  I would say that it's ticket sales.  Anyone in upstate NY that wanted to see them went to the Wilkes-Barre show because there wasn't one scheduled in upstate NY.  The Albany show just appeared a few weeks ago.  I heard many people from upstate NY mentioned that they would have gone there since it was closer, but they already bought the Wilkes-Barre tickets.  Between it being announced late and it being the day before Thanksgiving, I'm not surprised.  So happy I picked Wilkes-Barre!!  I live 1/2 between there and Albany!!


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: AXL DEMOCRACY on November 22, 2011, 02:00:17 PM
I'm in shock! Just got to Albany and found out. Traveled up from NYC by Amtrak train. This happened to me in Vancouver in 2002 also. I already booked my hotel & am can't get a refund so I'm stuck here til
Thursday :(
What a way to end a very shitty year.
I hope the band's health is ok.
If the arena canceled it I really want to know why.
I am really sad. Traveled up here alone too so this is going to be some lonely days in Albany.


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: johnreed3344 on November 22, 2011, 02:07:17 PM
wow didnt even realize that the tour merch didnt even have this date on there, pretty strange


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: Ali on November 22, 2011, 02:11:46 PM
I rely hope it wasn't canceled due to poor ticket sales but the show not being on the back of those tour shirts have me some concern but I laughed it off as a mistake. I really hope this wasn't planned by the band ; to cancel the show if certain amount of tickets were not sold. I spent a ton of money in Vancouver for a show that didn't happen, & now same in Albany. I know band didn't tell me to travel but I just feel like complete shit right now.
If anyone were to cancel due to ticket sales, it would be the promoter, not the band. At this point though, without knowing what the ticket sales were, it's ridiculous to speculate.

Ali


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: svdv22 on November 22, 2011, 02:18:42 PM
I don't think it's ticket sales. Wilkes-Barre was half full/empty. Sucks though, travelled all the way from the Netherlands.. I'm still in NYC now


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: sandman on November 22, 2011, 02:21:22 PM
I rely hope it wasn't canceled due to poor ticket sales but the show not being on the back of those tour shirts have me some concern but I laughed it off as a mistake. I really hope this wasn't planned by the band ; to cancel the show if certain amount of tickets were not sold. I spent a ton of money in Vancouver for a show that didn't happen, & now same in Albany. I know band didn't tell me to travel but I just feel like complete shit right now.

really sorry to hear that. i can somewhat relate to how you are feeling. i was at the philly show in 2002. it's just an awful feeling when you are looking forward to a big night and it gets cancelled.

i'm guessing it's poor ticket sales. and if so, i'm positive its the promoters call. this happens to alot of bands. hopefully this does not lead to any issues cause things have been going really well.


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: Briggsy on November 22, 2011, 02:22:35 PM
I rely hope it wasn't canceled due to poor ticket sales but the show not being on the back of those tour shirts have me some concern but I laughed it off as a mistake. I really hope this wasn't planned by the band ; to cancel the show if certain amount of tickets were not sold. I spent a ton of money in Vancouver for a show that didn't happen, & now same in Albany. I know band didn't tell me to travel but I just feel like complete shit right now.

yeah, I thought the same thing when seeing the pics of the shirts and assumed it was a mistake or that maybe they were all made before the show was announced, now it all just seems odd...

also, sorry you made the trip and got fucked over...I am in a similar situation where I now have a hotel room in albany and get get a refund and am wondering if it would be worth making the nearly five hour drive down or not...anyone know of anything else worth doing in albany tomorrow...?

It's not the weather.  It's not bad around here.  I would say that it's ticket sales.  Anyone in upstate NY that wanted to see them went to the Wilkes-Barre show because there wasn't one scheduled in upstate NY.  The Albany show just appeared a few weeks ago.  I heard many people from upstate NY mentioned that they would have gone there since it was closer, but they already bought the Wilkes-Barre tickets.  Between it being announced late and it being the day before Thanksgiving, I'm not surprised.  So happy I picked Wilkes-Barre!!  I live 1/2 between there and Albany!!

you seemed to forget that there is actually still a LOT of upstate NY located above albany...of course we get confused for being part of canada all the time...


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: johnreed3344 on November 22, 2011, 02:22:58 PM
maybe Jarmo has heard of the real reason.................


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: AXL DEMOCRACY on November 22, 2011, 02:27:19 PM
Missing my nephew's first Thanksgiving too :( Feeling very "Planes, Trains, & Automobiles" right now.


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: AXL DEMOCRACY on November 22, 2011, 02:30:16 PM
Brigs so sorry man. Maybe we can meet up? I'm stuck here til Thursday. I hear a lot of bars here. Been 9 years since last time I was here , to see G N' R. Didn't have much time to look around. Now, all I got is precious time :(


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: Ali on November 22, 2011, 02:33:08 PM
I don't think it's ticket sales. Wilkes-Barre was half full/empty. Sucks though, travelled all the way from the Netherlands.. I'm still in NYC now
Yeah, unless tickets were horrendously selling, which may be the case given it was the day before Thanksgiving, it seems unlikely.  But, without knowing the specifics, it's fruitless to speculate.

Ali


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: Mr. Redman on November 22, 2011, 02:35:09 PM
Sorry to hear guys - Guess I'm glad I caught 'em in Minneapolis & Chicago.


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: richwoman on November 22, 2011, 02:35:59 PM
what a shame this has come out of the blue, i guess till we hear from the band we don`t know what the reason is, really sorry for people thats travelled lets hope everyones ok


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: Briggsy on November 22, 2011, 02:39:09 PM
Brigs so sorry man. Maybe we can meet up? I'm stuck here til Thursday. I hear a lot of bars here. Been 9 years since last time I was here , to see G N' R. Didn't have much time to look around. Now, all I got is precious time :(

could be a possibility, but I still haven't decided if it will be worth driving down or not or just saying fuck it and just take the loss for the hotel but save the cost of gas...
either way, hope you are able to find something to do during your stay


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: spgunner on November 22, 2011, 02:39:22 PM
Relax people it's only one gig that was cancelled.

No need for panic, gossips or speculation !


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on November 22, 2011, 02:39:42 PM
GUNS N' ROSES To Continue U.S. Tour On Friday - Nov. 22, 2011

GUNS N' ROSES' management has released the following statement to BLABBERMOUTH.NET regarding the status of the band's tour following the cancelation of tomorrow night's (Wednesday, November 23) concert at the Times Union Center in Albany, New York:

"GUNS N' ROSES will continue their tour on Friday, November 25 at the DCU Center in Worcester, Massachusetts and the remainder of the tour as scheduled."

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=166442



Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: Jeramy on November 22, 2011, 02:44:45 PM
GUNS N' ROSES To Continue U.S. Tour On Friday - Nov. 22, 2011

GUNS N' ROSES' management has released the following statement to BLABBERMOUTH.NET regarding the status of the band's tour following the cancelation of tomorrow night's (Wednesday, November 23) concert at the Times Union Center in Albany, New York:

"GUNS N' ROSES will continue their tour on Friday, November 25 at the DCU Center in Worcester, Massachusetts and the remainder of the tour as scheduled."

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=166442



sounds good to me... i hope ron is okay, maybe the break will do him some good


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: richwoman on November 22, 2011, 02:50:08 PM
Brigs so sorry man. Maybe we can meet up? I'm stuck here til Thursday. I hear a lot of bars here. Been 9 years since last time I was here , to see G N' R. Didn't have much time to look around. Now, all I got is precious time :(

could be a possibility, but I still haven't decided if it will be worth driving down or not or just saying fuck it and just take the loss for the hotel but save the cost of gas...
either way, hope you are able to find something to do during your stay
sorry i don`t know the area, is it not possible  for you to go to the show on friday? instead of staying where you are maybe travel to worcester, really hope you get to see them they are worth it


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: AXL DEMOCRACY on November 22, 2011, 03:14:03 PM
Just took a taxi ride from Albany train station to hotel; first thing he said to me was "hope you're not here for the concert..." apparently the cab drivers are just as upset as us fans; they will be losing a lot of money now with no show happening.



Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: AXL DEMOCRACY on November 22, 2011, 03:16:53 PM
If I didn't have to be at work for the entire weekend I'd think about it, but can't make it happen :(

Got to see them twice in Canada in 2010 and was a blast. But happier times then and was really needing this show & hoping to end the year on a good note.


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: Briggsy on November 22, 2011, 03:21:14 PM
Brigs so sorry man. Maybe we can meet up? I'm stuck here til Thursday. I hear a lot of bars here. Been 9 years since last time I was here , to see G N' R. Didn't have much time to look around. Now, all I got is precious time :(

could be a possibility, but I still haven't decided if it will be worth driving down or not or just saying fuck it and just take the loss for the hotel but save the cost of gas...
either way, hope you are able to find something to do during your stay
sorry i don`t know the area, is it not possible  for you to go to the show on friday? instead of staying where you are maybe travel to worcester, really hope you get to see them they are worth it

By doing the hotels.com thing and "saving" money by paying in full up front there is no way of getting a refund (as per the fine print in my email confirmation)
As for going to Worcester, that would mean booking another hotel and having to make an even longer trip, possible but very unlikely...


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: Cornell on November 22, 2011, 03:24:25 PM
It's not the weather.  It's not bad around here.  I would say that it's ticket sales.  Anyone in upstate NY that wanted to see them went to the Wilkes-Barre show because there wasn't one scheduled in upstate NY.  The Albany show just appeared a few weeks ago.  I heard many people from upstate NY mentioned that they would have gone there since it was closer, but they already bought the Wilkes-Barre tickets.  Between it being announced late and it being the day before Thanksgiving, I'm not surprised.  So happy I picked Wilkes-Barre!!  I live 1/2 between there and Albany!!

you seemed to forget that there is actually still a LOT of upstate NY located above albany...of course we get confused for being part of canada all the time...
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No, I didn't forget.  I'm just saying that many people that would have gone to Albany already bought tickets to Wilkes-Barre or Worcester.

I feel your pain as I was in Philly in 2002.  Go to Worcester and forget the hotel!  It's worth it.


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: AXL DEMOCRACY on November 22, 2011, 03:26:12 PM
Once I got my concert ticket I booked my hotel. And yep, no refunds. I'm waiting to hear they play a club show in NYC with my luck. Grrrrr :(


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: Gracie2006 on November 22, 2011, 03:30:54 PM
Im sorry for you!!! not sorry for me!!!!


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: Gunsguy on November 22, 2011, 04:12:51 PM
Guns N' Roses
Regrettably we are unable to perform tomorrow evening at the Times Union Center and the show has been canceled - http://bit.ly/rBWvLI Refunds are available at the point of purchase. We'll be live on Friday in Worcester at the DCU Center


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: tim_m on November 22, 2011, 04:42:47 PM
Perhaps their stage setup was an issue for the venue? That's what i'm guessing production issues means. Sucks for those who had tickets for Albany.


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: diego on November 22, 2011, 04:50:23 PM
@gunsnroses


Tomorrow (11/23 ) evening's Guns N' Roses show at the Times Union Center is canceled due to production issues beyond the venue's control.


 :'(


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: GypsySoul on November 22, 2011, 05:26:16 PM
Just speculation on my part but could "issues beyond the venue's control" have to do with safety/security issues in the city?

The Albany version of those "Occupy Wall Street" protests have been all over the news lately for violent clashes/riots with police.  Maybe the city/venue decided it's safer to cancel the show rather than to add another 15,000+ bystanders into the mix going to n' from the venue.  (Even though we all know that GNR fans are the most well-behaved passive people in the world.  :P)



P.S.  I hope it has nothing to do with Ron's health.  :(


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: Ra on November 22, 2011, 06:53:49 PM
On other forums some are wondering if its cos of Bumbles health after his accident , lets hope not, however if it is maybe call Buckethead hes still part of the GnR family right ?


What "accident"?

I missed something.


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: gnrfan1797 on November 22, 2011, 06:59:50 PM
It's a bit worrying as to what is the real reason  :no:


i called the times uion center. they said production issues.


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: gnr85 on November 22, 2011, 07:02:20 PM
sorry to those who were planning on going. :(


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: D on November 22, 2011, 07:14:39 PM
Usually if it were a health issue, they'd reschedule right?

back in 06 they canceled my Nashville show a month or so before...

So my guess would be ticket sales, promoter pulled plug cause it would've lost money

just speculation of course.


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: gnrfan1797 on November 22, 2011, 07:19:05 PM
this time i can't be upset at axl cos it's not his fault. I live 20- minutes from the times union center and there having problems of there own which wouldn't allow gnr to perform. I'll just have to catch another show.


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: IKnowWhereIAM on November 22, 2011, 08:26:00 PM
With all the rampant speculation about every possible cause other than production issues, has anyone taken the time to think that it could possibly be 'production issues'?  Lets all just hold our breath for Friday, and not stir the massive pot of anxiety that has been set to boil.   : ok:


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: Ali on November 22, 2011, 08:49:49 PM
With all the rampant speculation about every possible cause other than production issues, has anyone taken the time to think that it could possibly be 'production issues'?  Lets all just hold our breath for Friday, and not stir the massive pot of anxiety that has been set to boil.   : ok:

Obviously not. That would not be the most doomsday scenario :)

As far as ticket sales go, I get why people would think that's possible. But, does anyone who thinks that is the reason actually know what the ticket sales were for the show? Or, how this show sold comparatively to other shows that proceeded as scheduled?

Food for thought.

Ali


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: cineater on November 22, 2011, 10:49:05 PM
That sucks.


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: jarmo on November 23, 2011, 12:14:36 AM
Don't see what's the big deal ? Sounds like its outta the bands control.


You are correct.


The decision was made by the promoter. Not Axl or the band.




/jarmo


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: Alfie Bones on November 23, 2011, 12:21:23 AM
Well, that's a relief for those of us who are supposed to see them this weekend.


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: adman2374 on November 23, 2011, 12:42:56 AM
Well, that's a relief for those of us who are supposed to see them this weekend.

Exactly. Well said.


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: FunkyMonkey on November 23, 2011, 08:27:42 AM
From Ron to someone complaining about the cancellation on Twitter:

And a very big apology man. We're missing the show too and am bummed about the cancellation :(

11 hours ago via web



Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: sandman on November 23, 2011, 08:42:46 AM
With all the rampant speculation about every possible cause other than production issues, has anyone taken the time to think that it could possibly be 'production issues'?  Lets all just hold our breath for Friday, and not stir the massive pot of anxiety that has been set to boil.   : ok:

Obviously not. That would not be the most doomsday scenario :)

As far as ticket sales go, I get why people would think that's possible. But, does anyone who thinks that is the reason actually know what the ticket sales were for the show? Or, how this show sold comparatively to other shows that proceeded as scheduled?

Food for thought.

Ali

yes, i've been checking ticket availability in just about every city, and albany was selling the poorest based on where you could get 8 seats together as of this past saturday.

But in my opinion, that was to be expected. Albany is not a major area, and the band just played 2 shows within reasonable driving distance. Also, while the night before Turkey Day is a huge night out for people in their 20ís, itís a very difficult night to get out for most people with kids.

Whether my speculation is true or not, all that matters is, itís not the bandís fault. This tour is going extremely well and Iím sure they will pick things up on Friday. 


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: 14 Yrs Of Silence on November 23, 2011, 09:31:10 AM
Shit happens and at least they cancelled with advance notice!  Sorry for those of you missing the show.


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: sandman on November 23, 2011, 09:33:31 AM
From Ron to someone complaining about the cancellation on Twitter:

And a very big apology man. We're missing the show too and am bummed about the cancellation :(

11 hours ago via web



that's awesome. ron's a cool dude. seems like someone sent him a nasty tweet, and he responded with total class and honesty. i'm sure the band is very bummed about the whole situation.

Wilkes Barre was not that crowded and they still performed as if they were in front of 80,000 people. it was awesome. can't freakin wait to see them again saturday night!


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: johnreed3344 on November 23, 2011, 10:05:57 AM
From Ron to someone complaining about the cancellation on Twitter:

And a very big apology man. We're missing the show too and am bummed about the cancellation :(

11 hours ago via web



that's awesome. ron's a cool dude. seems like someone sent him a nasty tweet, and he responded with total class and honesty. i'm sure the band is very bummed about the whole situation.

Wilkes Barre was not that crowded and they still performed as if they were in front of 80,000 people. it was awesome. can't freakin wait to see them again saturday night!


i will be going saturday night too.......from the looks of the setup in Hartford could be a packed house!


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: jak0lantern01 on November 23, 2011, 11:14:09 AM
It's not a big college town anyway.......    :rofl:


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: JSMastro on November 23, 2011, 12:45:59 PM
I just spoke to someone who is on the crew.  Supposedly, it was definitely due to poor advance sales, given the night before Thanksgiving.  Foolish of the promoter or manager or whomever booked a show that night, given the holiday.


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: Ali on November 23, 2011, 12:59:01 PM
With all the rampant speculation about every possible cause other than production issues, has anyone taken the time to think that it could possibly be 'production issues'?  Lets all just hold our breath for Friday, and not stir the massive pot of anxiety that has been set to boil.   : ok:

Obviously not. That would not be the most doomsday scenario :)

As far as ticket sales go, I get why people would think that's possible. But, does anyone who thinks that is the reason actually know what the ticket sales were for the show? Or, how this show sold comparatively to other shows that proceeded as scheduled?

Food for thought.

Ali

yes, i've been checking ticket availability in just about every city, and albany was selling the poorest based on where you could get 8 seats together as of this past saturday.

But in my opinion, that was to be expected. Albany is not a major area, and the band just played 2 shows within reasonable driving distance. Also, while the night before Turkey Day is a huge night out for people in their 20ís, itís a very difficult night to get out for most people with kids.

Whether my speculation is true or not, all that matters is, itís not the bandís fault. This tour is going extremely well and Iím sure they will pick things up on Friday. 

No offense, but that is hardly an exact method. Maybe if there was one of those interactive seating charts, I'd have 100% confidence in what you're saying.

Ali


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: LunsJail on November 23, 2011, 01:30:30 PM
I just spoke to someone who is on the crew.  Supposedly, it was definitely due to poor advance sales, given the night before Thanksgiving.  Foolish of the promoter or manager or whomever booked a show that night, given the holiday.

Also foolish to wait until 2 days before the show to cancel. I think it should have been obvious about a week ago that this show was gonna be a sales bust. This show was a victim of the half assed way most of these tour dates were announced.


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: sandman on November 23, 2011, 01:36:03 PM
With all the rampant speculation about every possible cause other than production issues, has anyone taken the time to think that it could possibly be 'production issues'?  Lets all just hold our breath for Friday, and not stir the massive pot of anxiety that has been set to boil.   : ok:

Obviously not. That would not be the most doomsday scenario :)

As far as ticket sales go, I get why people would think that's possible. But, does anyone who thinks that is the reason actually know what the ticket sales were for the show? Or, how this show sold comparatively to other shows that proceeded as scheduled?

Food for thought.

Ali

yes, i've been checking ticket availability in just about every city, and albany was selling the poorest based on where you could get 8 seats together as of this past saturday.

But in my opinion, that was to be expected. Albany is not a major area, and the band just played 2 shows within reasonable driving distance. Also, while the night before Turkey Day is a huge night out for people in their 20ís, itís a very difficult night to get out for most people with kids.

Whether my speculation is true or not, all that matters is, itís not the bandís fault. This tour is going extremely well and Iím sure they will pick things up on Friday. 

No offense, but that is hardly an exact method. Maybe if there was one of those interactive seating charts, I'd have 100% confidence in what you're saying.

Ali

none taken. i clearly stated i was speculating. i think i made it blatently obvious it is not an exact method. but it's not a totally incorrect method either. call the venue and ask them....they will tell you it was due to poor sales. so my speculation was actually correct.


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: IKnowWhereIAM on November 23, 2011, 01:47:10 PM

No offense, but that is hardly an exact method. Maybe if there was one of those interactive seating charts, I'd have 100% confidence in what you're saying.

Ali
It should also be noted that this is a large venue, with over 15,000 seats...in the past big acts have set up around where the faceoff circles would be on ice...leaving around 10,000 seats, plus additional cap'y in 'floor' area.  We may never know what killed this show, but my guess is insurance issue, police/fire safety, or staffing issue are probably the real reason...remember - Albany bars would still be open, even if Guns ran later than normal - and it's already the biggest drinking day of the year...I can see city demanding additional $$$ for police details and such.  Either way - GnR was ready to do it - and it's not the bands fault.


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: Little EMO Annie on November 23, 2011, 02:51:23 PM
I am sorry for everyone that had tickets. Total bummer. :'( I was pretty sad when the Milwaukee show was cancelled 5 years ago.


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: One.In.A.Million on November 23, 2011, 03:01:16 PM
In the 23 times I've seen GN'R, luckily I've never had to feel the dissapointment of a cancellation or a "no show". I can't imagine what it must feel like, but I know it must totally suck to be excited to see GN'R one minute, then feeling like crap the next.  :-\


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: Ali on November 23, 2011, 03:14:57 PM
It's a bit worrying as to what is the real reason  :no:


i called the times uion center. they said production issues.
With respect, Sandman, someone is saying they did call the venue and were told it was production issues.

Ali


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: wight gunner on November 23, 2011, 03:54:20 PM
It's a bit worrying as to what is the real reason  :no:


i called the times uion center. they said production issues.
With respect, Sandman, someone is saying they did call the venue and were told it was production issues.

Ali
Good call, I hate this thing where somebody says something and somebody else can't accept the answer, so they come up with "their own" truth. Why can't people just leave it alone?

Yes it sucks that some fans are losing their "day of worship" and can't imagine how it feels, but sometimes something throws a curveball and makes it impossible. If it was a timing/sales issue, they'd return at a later date I have thought, maybe chuck in MSG show or two to make it worth while, this sounds very much like a venue issue...


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: sandman on November 23, 2011, 04:22:01 PM
It's a bit worrying as to what is the real reason  :no:


i called the times uion center. they said production issues.
With respect, Sandman, someone is saying they did call the venue and were told it was production issues.

Ali

i called and asked directly if it was poor ticket sales. you seem especially interested, so i would suggest you do the same. get your information first hand. someone also said they know someone on the crew that confirmed it as well.

quite honestly, i HOPE it was poor ticket sales. cause IF it truly is "production issues", then every other show is subject to cancellation. this is a big venue that holds major shows, so if there really is some "production issue" that required this show to be canceled, than i would be nervous about every upcoming show. because that tells me that this could happen anywhere.


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: Ali on November 23, 2011, 05:20:49 PM
It's a bit worrying as to what is the real reason  :no:


i called the times uion center. they said production issues.
With respect, Sandman, someone is saying they did call the venue and were told it was production issues.

Ali

i called and asked directly if it was poor ticket sales. you seem especially interested, so i would suggest you do the same. get your information first hand. someone also said they know someone on the crew that confirmed it as well.

quite honestly, i HOPE it was poor ticket sales. cause IF it truly is "production issues", then every other show is subject to cancellation. this is a big venue that holds major shows, so if there really is some "production issue" that required this show to be canceled, than i would be nervous about every upcoming show. because that tells me that this could happen anywhere.

 Just pointing out that at the very least, there are inconsistencies in what people are being told. It doesn't really matter if I call and hear "poor ticket sales". Someone else has already been given a different answer. Maybe there are two factors?

I agree it is concerning if it was production issues in regards to future shows.

Ali


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: sandman on November 23, 2011, 07:10:47 PM
I agree and none of us can know for sure. It is kinda wishful thinking on my part. I have 12 friends going saturday that would not be going if it wasnt for me buying tix. And i'm a little paranoid thinking about things that could go wrong. IF poor sales is the issue, than i have less to worry about for the philly show, cause around 5,500+ (out of 7000) have been sold and i'm guessing that will be between 6 and 7 thousand by showtime. They sold over 100 tix in the last day or 2.


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: erose on November 24, 2011, 06:11:02 AM
At least there's alot of other gn'r show pretty close by...

And the fact that it's not gn'r's decicion should help a little. But yeah, of course it sucks...


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: AXL DEMOCRACY on November 24, 2011, 05:54:43 PM
I completely blame the promoter for not only canceling the show because of greed; yeah I understand it is a business and they don't want to lose money and they have it in their contract where they can do this, but to not only cancel but also wait until a day before to do so when fans like myself have already made plans WEEKS ahead of time to alter their holiday plans in order to attend this concert, is really pathetic.
I'd only be upset with the band if they knew ahead of time as well, and did not make an announcement; maybe if they knew they were legally not allowed to announce anything until the promoter did?  I have no idea.  But yeah that would be my only gripe with the band is if they knew it in advance and were allowed to announce it and just waited a day before to do so.
I spent my Thanksgiving traveling from Albany back to NYC; missed my nephew's first Thanksgiving and a chance to see some family.  I know that was MY decision, but still makes me upset that someone's greedy decision had to ruin what would have been a good show.
I went up to Albany in 2002 to see G N' R play, and though the arena (same one they were set to play this go around) was not sold out, the crowd was great and the arena was pretty full.  Even if they didn't sell well this time around, I think the crowd would have been solid; too bad the promoter didn't allow that chance.  There was a huge amount of people in the bars and around town last night in Albany as it usually is the day before Thanksgiving; back in 2002 getting out of the G N' R show my friends and I couldn't even get into a few bars cause they were over packed.  I think if the show was allowed to go on, there would have been a significant amount of walk ups increasing sales.  But again, as a business I understand the promoter didn't want to risk it, but it still completely sucks they did this the day before the show.
The only thing I can do is boycott this promoter's future shows; Magic Hat Productions; not sure if they are promoting ALL the G N' R shows on this tour, but if it is just a New York based promoter I will be sure to not support them, and I also plan on writing them a nasty email/letter.



Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: Briggsy on November 24, 2011, 06:59:49 PM
The only thing I can do is boycott this promoter's future shows; Magic Hat Productions; not sure if they are promoting ALL the G N' R shows on this tour, but if it is just a New York based promoter I will be sure to not support them, and I also plan on writing them a nasty email/letter.

Magic City Productions, not Magic Hat...just wanted to make sure you don't send the beer makers a nasty email/letter and that it goes to where it is deserved ;)


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: AXL DEMOCRACY on November 24, 2011, 07:39:47 PM
Yes, Briggsy!  Ha, wouldn't want to cause those good beer makers any hassle! 

Does anyone know if if this promoter is promoting more G N' R shows or what shows they have promoted so far on this tour?

Even if they are not promoting any more G N' R shows on this tour, I know it wouldn't probably make much sense for Axl to stick up for the fans and maybe give a nice little rant for us to this promoter, as it may complicate future business dealings with this company; and I know it was hard through all the Azoff stuff to finally get this tour together with certain promoters. 
But man, would I feel some gratification if we got a classic Axl rant at tomorrow's show regarding this Albany bollocks.


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: adman2374 on November 24, 2011, 09:52:50 PM
Yes, Briggsy!  Ha, wouldn't want to cause those good beer makers any hassle! 

Does anyone know if if this promoter is promoting more G N' R shows or what shows they have promoted so far on this tour?

Even if they are not promoting any more G N' R shows on this tour, I know it wouldn't probably make much sense for Axl to stick up for the fans and maybe give a nice little rant for us to this promoter, as it may complicate future business dealings with this company; and I know it was hard through all the Azoff stuff to finally get this tour together with certain promoters. 
But man, would I feel some gratification if we got a classic Axl rant at tomorrow's show regarding this Albany bollocks.

I think they also promoted the Wilkes-Barre gig and I think that's it.


Title: Re: Did they cancel Albany?
Post by: Fingers on November 25, 2011, 10:32:26 AM
Yes, Briggsy!  Ha, wouldn't want to cause those good beer makers any hassle! 

Does anyone know if if this promoter is promoting more G N' R shows or what shows they have promoted so far on this tour?

Even if they are not promoting any more G N' R shows on this tour, I know it wouldn't probably make much sense for Axl to stick up for the fans and maybe give a nice little rant for us to this promoter, as it may complicate future business dealings with this company; and I know it was hard through all the Azoff stuff to finally get this tour together with certain promoters. 
But man, would I feel some gratification if we got a classic Axl rant at tomorrow's show regarding this Albany bollocks.

Chances are the promoter was going to lose money on the show.