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Title: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: jerr65 on January 10, 2017, 12:52:47 AM
Since U2 is celebrating The 30th Anniversary of there Joshua tree album, dose any one think that Guns will do something to celebrate Appetite For Destruction

Like Playing The whole Album Live or  re-release or something like that ?


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: LIGuns on January 10, 2017, 10:29:26 PM
If they exist nI'd like to hear an AFD era demo
of You Could Be Mine..


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: GnR-NOW on January 10, 2017, 10:44:56 PM
Id like to hear the rerecorded 99 version of AFD


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: rebelhipi on January 11, 2017, 08:27:41 AM
Im not really into those ''anniversary deluxe editions'' or ''lets play that best selling album tour'' That said, id love to hear those 1999 appetite sessions.

And i would buy a 10th anniversary Chinese Democracy album with some unreleased tracks from the 1997-2007 sessions in a heartbeat.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: allwaystired on January 11, 2017, 09:08:34 AM
Im not really into those ''anniversary deluxe editions'' or ''lets play that best selling album tour'' That said, id love to hear those 1999 appetite sessions.

And i would buy a 10th anniversary Chinese Democracy album with some unreleased tracks from the 1997-2007 sessions in a heartbeat.

Agree with all of the above! I'm actually way more interested in hearing unreleased Chinese-era stuff that older demos etc.

Were the 1999 appetite sessions ever confirmed? I know there was strong rumour the entire album had been re-recorded for release, but was it ever more than just a rumour?


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: MHC on January 11, 2017, 11:16:32 AM
They've been playing all of Appetite for the last 15 years. I think it's only really interesting for U2 and other bands to do these anniversary reminiscences when they've done something else in the interim. GNR are pretty unique in how they've been floundering for direction for 20 years.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Oliver on January 11, 2017, 12:01:13 PM
Im not really into those ''anniversary deluxe editions'' or ''lets play that best selling album tour'' That said, id love to hear those 1999 appetite sessions.

And i would buy a 10th anniversary Chinese Democracy album with some unreleased tracks from the 1997-2007 sessions in a heartbeat.

Agree with all of the above! I'm actually way more interested in hearing unreleased Chinese-era stuff that older demos etc.

Were the 1999 appetite sessions ever confirmed? I know there was strong rumour the entire album had been re-recorded for release, but was it ever more than just a rumour?

It was not a rumour, Axl himself said they re-recorded AFD in the Kurt Loder interview :

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=28



Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: C0ma on January 11, 2017, 12:15:57 PM
Im not really into those ''anniversary deluxe editions'' or ''lets play that best selling album tour'' That said, id love to hear those 1999 appetite sessions.

And i would buy a 10th anniversary Chinese Democracy album with some unreleased tracks from the 1997-2007 sessions in a heartbeat.

Problem is while that is the sentiment of a majority of us here... but we are a super minority when it comes to the downloading/streaming/album buying public. They are going to want Axl and Slash, not Axl and the guys no one knows the names of.

I think it would be awesome if as a perk of Nightrain if we got first access to some of these tracks available as a site embedded stream (or something like that)... It could be re-recorded AFD, CD Vault material, remastered versions of songs we've already heard (like OMG or CD itself). Give it the love it never got, or even stripped back like the Beatles 'Let it Be Naked' where they removed the Phil Spector 'Wall of Sound'


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: rebelhipi on January 11, 2017, 06:55:21 PM
Im not really into those ''anniversary deluxe editions'' or ''lets play that best selling album tour'' That said, id love to hear those 1999 appetite sessions.

And i would buy a 10th anniversary Chinese Democracy album with some unreleased tracks from the 1997-2007 sessions in a heartbeat.

Agree with all of the above! I'm actually way more interested in hearing unreleased Chinese-era stuff that older demos etc.

Were the 1999 appetite sessions ever confirmed? I know there was strong rumour the entire album had been re-recorded for release, but was it ever more than just a rumour?
Me too, i think im even more excited about the unreleased ''second half of chinese'' than even a totally new record with the current lineup.

the 1999 sessions happened https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbIiiV1wbnc This is all we got, its from the end credits of the big daddy movie.
Lineup here: Axl, Finck, Tobias, Tommy, Freese, Dizzy, Pittman.
They did the whole Appetite except they left out two songs (probably youre crazy and anything goes) and replaced them with patience and you could be mine.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: TheBaconman on January 11, 2017, 09:17:48 PM
Im not really into those ''anniversary deluxe editions'' or ''lets play that best selling album tour'' That said, id love to hear those 1999 appetite sessions.

And i would buy a 10th anniversary Chinese Democracy album with some unreleased tracks from the 1997-2007 sessions in a heartbeat.

Totally agree. 

A band with a few ascrual albums should not be focusing on greatest hits and remastered versions of anniversary editions

Let's focus on new unreleased music

What ever it is

Vault stuff

Re recorded stuff

New music by this new formation of this band

Hell I would even take Axl solo stuff. 

Hell I would even take slash solo stuff again. 


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: allwaystired on January 14, 2017, 09:54:02 AM
Im not really into those ''anniversary deluxe editions'' or ''lets play that best selling album tour'' That said, id love to hear those 1999 appetite sessions.

And i would buy a 10th anniversary Chinese Democracy album with some unreleased tracks from the 1997-2007 sessions in a heartbeat.

Agree with all of the above! I'm actually way more interested in hearing unreleased Chinese-era stuff that older demos etc.

Were the 1999 appetite sessions ever confirmed? I know there was strong rumour the entire album had been re-recorded for release, but was it ever more than just a rumour?
Me too, i think im even more excited about the unreleased ''second half of chinese'' than even a totally new record with the current lineup.

the 1999 sessions happened https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbIiiV1wbnc This is all we got, its from the end credits of the big daddy movie.
Lineup here: Axl, Finck, Tobias, Tommy, Freese, Dizzy, Pittman.
They did the whole Appetite except they left out two songs (probably youre crazy and anything goes) and replaced them with patience and you could be mine.

I wonder how many people there are like us who feel that way? surely enough to make CD-era stuff worth releasing! Sell it to us direct through Nighttrain or something! If I think about it it really does frustrate me how much I want to hear all the stuff, and how it's sat there with no one hearing it!

You know- I'd never heard that SCOM clip! I really like it- it definitely brings something new to the song.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Voodoochild on January 14, 2017, 10:01:34 AM
I love that era. I would love to listen to all the Chinese songs in their 1999-2004 mix, with much less layers and a more industrial vibe. It could be released as bonus tracks in a deluxe package on iTunes or whatever. Im not even talking about unreleased tracks - which of course would be the best scenario.

But the rerecorded AFD is probably never going to see the light ever IMO. Id like to listen to it, but we had some soundboards of the 2001/06 era that should be pretty close to what it would have sounded.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: GypsySoul on January 15, 2017, 10:51:28 PM
But the rerecorded AFD is probably never going to see the light ever IMO. Id like to listen to it, but we had some soundboards of the 2001/06 era that should be pretty close to what it would have sounded.
I agree that the rerecorded AFD will probably never see the light of day.  IMO, there's no reason it should because - besides Axl and Dizzy - none of those people are in the band anymore.

I'm not saying that it was a waste of time to rerecord.  I believe it ultimately proved to achieve it's purpose as indicated in this Axl quote from that '99 Loder interview:

Quote from: Axl
Learning the old Guns songs and getting them up, you know, putting them on tape, really forced everybody to get them up to the quality that they needed to be at. Once the energy was figured out by the new guys, how much energy was needed to get the songs right, then it really helped in the writing and recording process of the new record.

That being said, I would also love to hear the evolution of all the recordings of the CD songs at the different stages of their existence up to the final released product but also to include any rerecording (as done with AFD) of the CD songs with the current line-up.



Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: gcluskey on March 20, 2017, 06:52:47 AM
I think if we're ever gonna see the AFD 5 on stage together again it's gonna be to celebrate this 30 year anniversary. It's the closest we've ever been to a full reunion. Steven's sudden silence again is speaking more volumes. Hopefully Izzy gets on board for it.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Slashrose on March 20, 2017, 08:21:34 AM
I do not think Axl has something prepared, like a Deluxe Edition of AFD, with rare material, all bands release something commemorative, those hundreds of songs that did not enter the album should be released.

They should do 30 shows with the original line-up.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: slashsbaconpit on March 20, 2017, 11:31:19 AM
Im not really into those ''anniversary deluxe editions'' or ''lets play that best selling album tour'' That said, id love to hear those 1999 appetite sessions.

And i would buy a 10th anniversary Chinese Democracy album with some unreleased tracks from the 1997-2007 sessions in a heartbeat.

Yeah, this!


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Bridge on March 20, 2017, 09:38:47 PM
I think if we're ever gonna see the AFD 5 on stage together again it's gonna be to celebrate this 30 year anniversary. It's the closest we've ever been to a full reunion. Steven's sudden silence again is speaking more volumes. Hopefully Izzy gets on board for it.

At the end of the day, that's the only "celebration" that would be worthwhile.  If there were demos or live performances over the years, we've heard them by now, and we also know that not much exists.  A reunion of some sort featuring all 5 original members together would be worth any 10 boxsets of shitty bootlegs or demos that might exist.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: GNR4L on March 22, 2017, 09:58:55 PM
Any update on a LA show ? I know there is a GnR Billboard on Sunset.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: WAR41 on March 26, 2017, 05:13:11 PM
No clue, but I booked my hotel just in case.  Could see an increase in cost after this is announced.  Most hotels offer free cancellation as long as you give advance notice, so no real risk to do so. 


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: jarmo on March 26, 2017, 05:47:21 PM
No clue, but I booked my hotel just in case.  

You booked a hotel where and what date?  ???



/jarmo


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Spirit on March 26, 2017, 06:32:51 PM
No clue, but I booked my hotel just in case.  

You booked a hotel where and what date?  ???



/jarmo



I'm just guessing, but in LA around July 21?


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: jarmo on March 27, 2017, 11:04:56 AM
That's what I assumed as well.





/jarmo


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: allwaystired on March 27, 2017, 03:43:08 PM
Can you see Adler and Izzy playing with them for this? I really can't. My speculative guess would be, if anything happens, it would be the current incarnation playing through AFD all the way, perhaps with the odd guest, to announce an AFD deluxe reissue.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Spirit on March 27, 2017, 05:03:21 PM
Can you see Adler and Izzy playing with them for this? I really can't. My speculative guess would be, if anything happens, it would be the current incarnation playing through AFD all the way, perhaps with the odd guest, to announce an AFD deluxe reissue.

Not sure.. Adler seemed to know things were in the works for the anniversary, although it didn't come across as he knew any details.

When asked to comment on GN'R by Rolling Stone, he now says he can't comment on them at all.



Izzy... well, if he by principle (i.e. only offered guest appearances during the tour) said no to join them last year I don't think we'll see him.

If it was because of the money (not getting the same cut), I can see him joining them for some exclusive shows with a contract giving him an equal share.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: D-GenerationX on March 27, 2017, 05:19:20 PM
Can you see Adler and Izzy playing with them for this? I really can't. My speculative guess would be, if anything happens, it would be the current incarnation playing through AFD all the way, perhaps with the odd guest, to announce an AFD deluxe reissue.

I do not see Izzy or Adler playing.  I do not even see a commemorative show.

I damn sure don't see some sort of super deluxe bonus edition re-issue.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: sky dog on March 27, 2017, 05:34:43 PM
Agree... :P


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: sky dog on March 27, 2017, 06:17:39 PM
I actually would want a chinese deluxe reissue if we could get new tunes. We have pretty much everything we can get from AFD. Anyhow, all pipe dreams at this point.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: allwaystired on March 27, 2017, 06:30:13 PM
Can you see Adler and Izzy playing with them for this? I really can't. My speculative guess would be, if anything happens, it would be the current incarnation playing through AFD all the way, perhaps with the odd guest, to announce an AFD deluxe reissue.

I do not see Izzy or Adler playing.  I do not even see a commemorative show.

I damn sure don't see some sort of super deluxe bonus edition re-issue.

Really? Do you see nothing happening? How come?


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: allwaystired on March 27, 2017, 06:31:54 PM
I actually would want a chinese deluxe reissue if we could get new tunes. We have pretty much everything we can get from AFD. Anyhow, all pipe dreams at this point.

With you on that one. Way more interest in Chinese era unreleased stuff. As discussed before though, we're in the minority with that one. A Chinese reissue would NOT sell. In fact, it would probably even be laughed at, sadly.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: D-GenerationX on March 27, 2017, 07:33:56 PM
Right now, this looks like little more than a moneymaking operation for all involved.

Which I hardly begrudge them.  They pissed away YEARS of paydays acting like children.  Perfectly natural to want to recoup that. 

I think this is their most professional tour, and viewed in a lot of ways, might be their best overall tour.  They are killing every night, no extraneous bullshit or drama, and the fans are over the moon happy.

But do you get much of a vibe they are a band again?  I don't, to be honest.  I get more a cast of a movie vibe.  Meaning, they all have their parts to play, they play them to the best of their ability and put on a great show.  But, ultimately, just guys doing a job for huge coin.

I don't know I see much in the future, save for future tours.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: allwaystired on March 27, 2017, 08:04:46 PM
Right now, this looks like little more than a moneymaking operation for all involved.

Which I hardly begrudge them.  They pissed away YEARS of paydays acting like children.  Perfectly natural to want to recoup that. 

I think this is their most professional tour, and viewed in a lot of ways, might be their best overall tour.  They are killing every night, no extraneous bullshit or drama, and the fans are over the moon happy.

But do you get much of a vibe they are a band again?  I don't, to be honest.  I get more a cast of a movie vibe.  Meaning, they all have their parts to play, they play them to the best of their ability and put on a great show.  But, ultimately, just guys doing a job for huge coin.

I don't know I see much in the future, save for future tours.


I agree with all that, totally. I get no vibe they're a 'band' in the sense we think of most bands. It's a tight show, for money. I'm more than OK with that- I can't wait for my chance to see it. I don't even think whether it's a good or bad thing how they are now- I just see it how it is. Live shows. With no evidence, anywhere, whatsoever, that anything other is planned or even considered. I have no expectations of anything more, except, as you say, maybe a few more tours.

What's strange about this though is a) that sign and b) the comments from Adler. OK, we can write Adler's comments off, as we have done for many many years now, but that sign certainly throws a bit of curiosity in though? All the other signs we've had have led to something......

Personally I really think something is planned. But that something may simply just be an exhibition of photos of the time or similar.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Bridge on March 28, 2017, 04:00:10 AM
But do you get much of a vibe they are a band again?  I don't, to be honest.  I get more a cast of a movie vibe.  Meaning, they all have their parts to play, they play them to the best of their ability and put on a great show.  But, ultimately, just guys doing a job for huge coin.

I agree -- the chemistry is certainly surprising, but definitely not a focused, cohesive "take over the world" type band.  Firstly, we have a hybrid lineup including some original members (and lacking others) and some of Axl's hired hands.  Then we have Axl's own talk of new material that "might include Duff or Slash, if they are feeling it".  And of course there's the fact that we all know damn well -- Axl alone still owns the GNR name and the others are all contract players.  Regardless of what Slash or Duff choose to do after their contracts expire is insignificant -- the fact that their tenures in GNR expire at all is what lacks the "band" feeling.

But in the end, their heyday was decades ago.  We shouldn't expect them to even come close to capturing that zeitgeist again.  It's staggering to me just to watch the youtube videos.  A freakin' year ago, I would never have believed that Axl would share the stage with either Slash or Steven again.... and here he was sharing the stage with both simultaneously!  Not long ago, it was inconceivable to me that even 2 of the original members would tour together again, and within the last year, there have been times when 4 of the 5 originals were on stage together!   :o

No, what we are experiencing right now is "extra".  Having Slash and Axl on the same stage again -- truly miraculous extra!  Having Steven involved just a little was even more "extra".  If Steven and Izzy were there full time?  Finally a true reunion, and perhaps the ultimate extra, but even the five original members together wouldn't lend into the concept of "forever" any more than the lineup that we have now.

Anything that happens from here (continued tours, Izzy/Steven appearances, new music, etc) will continue to be extra.  And we should definitely be thankful that we got any of it at all.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: WAR41 on March 28, 2017, 12:42:19 PM
No clue, but I booked my hotel just in case.  

You booked a hotel where and what date?  ???



/jarmo



I'm just guessing, but in LA around July 21?

Haha yea, I figured that would be obvious.  July 21 in LA.  You nailed it! 


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: jarmo on March 28, 2017, 01:04:04 PM
I wonder..... That would mean the gear needs to go from Israel to LA, instead of St Louis (where the North American leg is starting)....

Yes, there's a gap in the tour dates, but is it a viable option?
In comparison, the Troubadour show made sense since all the gear was already there for Coachella....




/jarmo


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: WAR41 on March 28, 2017, 01:20:25 PM
I wonder..... That would mean the gear needs to go from Israel to LA, instead of St Louis (where the North American leg is starting)....

Yes, there's a gap in the tour dates, but is it a viable option?
In comparison, the Troubadour show made sense since all the gear was already there for Coachella....




/jarmo


Haha look, I know it is all rumors/heresay that is highly unlikely at this point.  But bottom line is I can cancel the hotel room at any time before July 19 and not be charged for it and I haven't booked  a flight yet.  I'd rather be prepared in case something happens.  And you know better than me Jarmo, but I figured the big gear can go to St. Louis while the band comes to LA and plays a club show that I am given VIP tickets for.  That works right?   : ok:


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: jarmo on March 28, 2017, 01:39:57 PM
Haha.

Sounds like you've got it all planned out.  :hihi:



/jarmo


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: pilferk on March 29, 2017, 09:34:22 AM
...show at the Whiskey where you re-record a live version and video of WTTJ. ;)

Which is released as a single shortly after.

Alternately, if we're playing the what if/pipe dream game, what I would absolutely go freaking NUTS for, is a free streamed live concert to celebrate the freaking bazillion odd copies sold of AFD.   


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: sofine11 on March 29, 2017, 02:21:35 PM
Right now, this looks like little more than a moneymaking operation for all involved.

Which I hardly begrudge them.  They pissed away YEARS of paydays acting like children.  Perfectly natural to want to recoup that. 

I think this is their most professional tour, and viewed in a lot of ways, might be their best overall tour.  They are killing every night, no extraneous bullshit or drama, and the fans are over the moon happy.

But do you get much of a vibe they are a band again?  I don't, to be honest.  I get more a cast of a movie vibe.  Meaning, they all have their parts to play, they play them to the best of their ability and put on a great show.  But, ultimately, just guys doing a job for huge coin.

I don't know I see much in the future, save for future tours.


My sentiments exactly.  And you're right, after all the years of fighting their respective fights against this happening for years upon years, I honestly can't begrudge them the money they're making from this simply being a touring band.

I would love to get a no bullshit answer from Axl regarding whether he does have any honest to God desire to put out an album with Slash & Duff on it in the near future.  You'd think at this point that would be a no brainer as far as next steps go, but I can totally see some odd parabolic response from Axl regarding where another record stands. Something like: "As momentous N' arduous as this past year's touring has been, N' for no lack of trying, the logistics N relationships involved in putting together a new Guns record are by no means set in stone."


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: bolton on March 30, 2017, 02:01:59 PM
Well,this anniversary is last chance for Axl to play and reunite with Slash...


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: sofine11 on March 30, 2017, 02:16:13 PM
Well,this anniversary is last chance for Axl to play and reunite with Slash...

Never gonna happen dude. Enjoy the present!  ;)


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: D-GenerationX on March 30, 2017, 02:33:43 PM

I can totally see some odd parabolic response from Axl regarding where another record stands. Something like: "As momentous N' arduous as this past year's touring has been, N' for no lack of trying, the logistics N relationships involved in putting together a new Guns record are by no means set in stone."


Hahahaha

That sounds exactly like him.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: sofine11 on March 30, 2017, 03:00:51 PM

I can totally see some odd parabolic response from Axl regarding where another record stands. Something like: "As momentous N' arduous as this past year's touring has been, N' for no lack of trying, the logistics N relationships involved in putting together a new Guns record are by no means set in stone."


Hahahaha

That sounds exactly like him.

Nothing definitive but still manages to bum you out.  :hihi:

"I don't know if that involves Slash. If he wants to play on something or write something, great."  That's the last quote we have about the subject of a new record.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Sosso on March 30, 2017, 03:54:22 PM

I can totally see some odd parabolic response from Axl regarding where another record stands. Something like: "As momentous N' arduous as this past year's touring has been, N' for no lack of trying, the logistics N relationships involved in putting together a new Guns record are by no means set in stone."


Hahahaha

That sounds exactly like him.

Nothing definitive but still manages to bum you out.  :hihi:

"I don't know if that involves Slash. If he wants to play on something or write something, great."  That's the last quote we have about the subject of a new record.

That sounds pretty much like NIN for me. Axl is the only principal member and the other ones are replaceable. Even Slash and Duff.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: sofine11 on March 30, 2017, 05:40:24 PM

I can totally see some odd parabolic response from Axl regarding where another record stands. Something like: "As momentous N' arduous as this past year's touring has been, N' for no lack of trying, the logistics N relationships involved in putting together a new Guns record are by no means set in stone."


Hahahaha

That sounds exactly like him.

Nothing definitive but still manages to bum you out.  :hihi:

"I don't know if that involves Slash. If he wants to play on something or write something, great."  That's the last quote we have about the subject of a new record.

That sounds pretty much like NIN for me. Axl is the only principal member and the other ones are replaceable. Even Slash and Duff.

At this point, I do not think either Slash are Duff are "replaceable".  I'm sure even Axl knows that there's no going back.  However, there is very little question that Axl is still the one calling the shots at the end of the day, and that goes for whether we end up getting an album sooner than later.  I'm sure Slash & Duff are both happy to be making the money they're seeing now, and recording for a new album would simply be a plus for them.  Slash has SMKC to fall back on, and Duff has Loaded for their creative outlets, if GNR remains stagnant in that regard.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Spirit on March 30, 2017, 07:01:43 PM

I can totally see some odd parabolic response from Axl regarding where another record stands. Something like: "As momentous N' arduous as this past year's touring has been, N' for no lack of trying, the logistics N relationships involved in putting together a new Guns record are by no means set in stone."


Hahahaha

That sounds exactly like him.

Nothing definitive but still manages to bum you out.  :hihi:

"I don't know if that involves Slash. If he wants to play on something or write something, great."  That's the last quote we have about the subject of a new record.

That sounds pretty much like NIN for me. Axl is the only principal member and the other ones are replaceable. Even Slash and Duff.

At this point, I do not think either Slash are Duff are "replaceable".  I'm sure even Axl knows that there's no going back.  However, there is very little question that Axl is still the one calling the shots at the end of the day, and that goes for whether we end up getting an album sooner than later.  I'm sure Slash & Duff are both happy to be making the money they're seeing now, and recording for a new album would simply be a plus for them.  Slash has SMKC to fall back on, and Duff has Loaded for their creative outlets, if GNR remains stagnant in that regard.

Axl owns the name no doubt. Calling the shots... well, I have a feeling Axl wants Slash and Duff to get in the mix and help out map the future of GNR. It would be a cool thing anyways


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: TheBaconman on March 30, 2017, 08:33:40 PM
It would be a shame if they did a show without izzy and Steven in memory of this album.   As for this current line up playing the album in full live.  I would have little interest.   I really hope there is no delux version released either    Let's get some new tunes out there


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: sofine11 on March 30, 2017, 10:17:34 PM

I can totally see some odd parabolic response from Axl regarding where another record stands. Something like: "As momentous N' arduous as this past year's touring has been, N' for no lack of trying, the logistics N relationships involved in putting together a new Guns record are by no means set in stone."


Hahahaha

That sounds exactly like him.

Nothing definitive but still manages to bum you out.  :hihi:

"I don't know if that involves Slash. If he wants to play on something or write something, great."  That's the last quote we have about the subject of a new record.

That sounds pretty much like NIN for me. Axl is the only principal member and the other ones are replaceable. Even Slash and Duff.

At this point, I do not think either Slash are Duff are "replaceable".  I'm sure even Axl knows that there's no going back.  However, there is very little question that Axl is still the one calling the shots at the end of the day, and that goes for whether we end up getting an album sooner than later.  I'm sure Slash & Duff are both happy to be making the money they're seeing now, and recording for a new album would simply be a plus for them.  Slash has SMKC to fall back on, and Duff has Loaded for their creative outlets, if GNR remains stagnant in that regard.

Axl owns the name no doubt. Calling the shots... well, I have a feeling Axl wants Slash and Duff to get in the mix and help out map the future of GNR. It would be a cool thing anyways

That's the trouble with GNR. In regards to new music being released, things seem to stop at "hopes".  I'm sure Axl "hopes" he can put out another album. Rarely any real world follow through to make it a reality unfortunately.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: allwaystired on March 31, 2017, 06:38:55 AM
It would be a shame if they did a show without izzy and Steven in memory of this album.   As for this current line up playing the album in full live.  I would have little interest.   I really hope there is no delux version released either    Let's get some new tunes out there

Don't let it keep you up at night, hey?!


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Ginger King on March 31, 2017, 12:44:38 PM

I can totally see some odd parabolic response from Axl regarding where another record stands. Something like: "As momentous N' arduous as this past year's touring has been, N' for no lack of trying, the logistics N relationships involved in putting together a new Guns record are by no means set in stone."


Hahahaha

That sounds exactly like him.

Nothing definitive but still manages to bum you out.  :hihi:

"I don't know if that involves Slash. If he wants to play on something or write something, great."  That's the last quote we have about the subject of a new record.

It's truly an art to say something that (a) keeps people interested while (b) committing you to absolutely nothing.  How much did we salivate over "very seriously looking at what to do in that regard."  Brilliant! 


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: D-GenerationX on March 31, 2017, 01:21:03 PM
I think all the people truly clamoring for new music need to recognize that Axl was more willing to bury the hatchet with a guy he had been burying for TWENTY YEARS than put out stuff that is (supposedly) already done.

Holding your breath on new material would sure seem to be a fool's errand, in the eyes of this reporeter.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: sofine11 on March 31, 2017, 02:19:53 PM

I can totally see some odd parabolic response from Axl regarding where another record stands. Something like: "As momentous N' arduous as this past year's touring has been, N' for no lack of trying, the logistics N relationships involved in putting together a new Guns record are by no means set in stone."


Hahahaha

That sounds exactly like him.

Nothing definitive but still manages to bum you out.  :hihi:

"I don't know if that involves Slash. If he wants to play on something or write something, great."  That's the last quote we have about the subject of a new record.

It's truly an art to say something that (a) keeps people interested while (b) committing you to absolutely nothing.  How much did we salivate over "very seriously looking at what to do in that regard."  Brilliant! 

And I have to think he knows what he's doing whenever he mentions the prospect of new music.  It buys him a ton of goodwill with the fanbase, however little he actually follows through on said statement(s), and within minutes articles reporting on what he said start popping up. 

It will be interesting to see just how long he can keep touring without putting proverbial fuel in the GNR gastank in the form of new music.  As it stands, it appears he couldn't be less interested in putting anything new out.  :-\


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: allwaystired on March 31, 2017, 03:08:26 PM
"I've played some stuff to Slash/Duff/Angus and they liked it" is a recurring comment.

I get the sense it's the stock response to any question about new material. It's a 'get out of jail free' response.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: sofine11 on March 31, 2017, 03:22:00 PM
"I've played some stuff to Slash/Duff/Angus and they liked it" is a recurring comment.

I get the sense it's the stock response to any question about new material. It's a 'get out of jail free' response.

You have to wonder what his intent was in showing Slash & Duff the other unreleased "Chinese Era" tracks.  Was he gauging their interest to see if they wanted to record on them?  Just for fun?

The fact that Axl put it as "If Slash wants to record on something or write something, great." is kind of scary to me, because it shows that, at least when he made those statements, he had really no idea what the next album would even be.  As in new tracks, or tracks that were previously recorded that Slash & Duff would simply leave their imprint on.  Hopefully they've sorted out those details by now and have some kind of plan in place, though I certainly would not bet on it.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: jarmo on March 31, 2017, 03:45:00 PM
The 30th anniversary of Appetite is suddenly not about that...  :hihi:


Anyway, I wonder how willing the record company is regarding the anniversary? With all the hype due to the success of the tour, you'd think they would be really interested in using all the publicity to sell a new product. But then again, we don't really have stats on how much more the old albums have sold since the regrouping. Maybe they're happy with that. Zero effort....

On the other hand, it'd be nice to have a proper "deluxe" edition of the albums with all kinds of bonuses as well as proper remasters (I doubt the master they did for the cd format back in 1987 is optimal for example)....


/jarmo


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: allwaystired on March 31, 2017, 05:18:30 PM
The 30th anniversary of Appetite is suddenly not about that...  :hihi:


Anyway, I wonder how willing the record company is regarding the anniversary? With all the hype due to the success of the tour, you'd think they would be really interested in using all the publicity to sell a new product. But then again, we don't really have stats on how much more the old albums have sold since the regrouping. Maybe they're happy with that. Zero effort....

On the other hand, it'd be nice to have a proper "deluxe" edition of the albums with all kinds of bonuses as well as proper remasters (I doubt the master they did for the cd format back in 1987 is optimal for example)....


/jarmo


Deluxe reissues seems to be what is propping up the industry at the moment- I'd be absolutely amazed if the label didn't want a slice of the action. Would cost very little to bung it out again in a nice sleeve, with a bonus live disc and a few demos/b-sides. And, sadly, it would probably sell as well as any 'new' material. It really is money for old rope- and virtually every label in the world does it.

I don't know whether there are any rights or legal issues involved though of course. I've been surprised in the past that no reissues/deluxe versions have been released.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: jarmo on March 31, 2017, 06:48:41 PM
I've been surprised in the past that no reissues/deluxe versions have been released.

I think that kind of things involve the three partners. So since they weren't in the same bands at the time, things were a bit complicated. Live Era happened, but that was it.

Now things are different.... :)



/jarmo


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: allwaystired on April 01, 2017, 07:43:29 AM
I've been surprised in the past that no reissues/deluxe versions have been released.

I think that kind of things involve the three partners. So since they weren't in the same bands at the time, things were a bit complicated. Live Era happened, but that was it.

Now things are different.... :)



/jarmo


The Greatest Hits happened though- pretty much against all band members will as I recall? (I still think that's one awful, awful release- the packaging and presentation of that was pathetic).


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: jarmo on April 01, 2017, 09:10:26 AM
Yes, but sometimes that kind of releases are part of the contract. Also, it had zero previously unreleased material.....

Some kind of remaster or deluxe edition would require either tampering with the material, and/or releasing previously unreleased material. And that might be a totally different thing....



/jarmo


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: sofine11 on April 01, 2017, 01:26:11 PM
I would be surprised if SOMETHING wasn't announced for 2017 for the 30th AFD anniversary be it a live DVD of the NITL tour, or possible remasters with bonus material.  But who knows?  Guns albums, particularly Appetite & Greatest Hits have continuously sold well, so maybe they see no point in re-releasing. 


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: allwaystired on April 01, 2017, 05:01:06 PM
Yes, but sometimes that kind of releases are part of the contract. Also, it had zero previously unreleased material.....

Some kind of remaster or deluxe edition would require either tampering with the material, and/or releasing previously unreleased material. And that might be a totally different thing....



/jarmo


Good points.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: allwaystired on April 01, 2017, 05:02:35 PM
I would be surprised if SOMETHING wasn't announced for 2017 for the 30th AFD anniversary be it a live DVD of the NITL tour, or possible remasters with bonus material.  But who knows?  Guns albums, particularly Appetite & Greatest Hits have continuously sold well, so maybe they see no point in re-releasing. 

Not producing a live dvd at some point would be madness commercially.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Voodoochild on April 01, 2017, 07:24:56 PM
Id be very happy with in-dept interviews about the band's history in a DVD. And yes, with everybody, including Axl and Slash. They don't have to talk shit about each other in a controlled environment of a well edited interview.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Bridge on April 02, 2017, 12:45:50 AM
Not producing a live dvd at some point would be madness commercially.

I've been thinking that for quite awhile.  They had huge crowds, A+ shows, Axl/Slash/Duff together, plus Steven at times.  That setup screams for a live DVD.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: sofine11 on April 03, 2017, 12:33:15 PM
I would be surprised if SOMETHING wasn't announced for 2017 for the 30th AFD anniversary be it a live DVD of the NITL tour, or possible remasters with bonus material.  But who knows?  Guns albums, particularly Appetite & Greatest Hits have continuously sold well, so maybe they see no point in re-releasing. 

Not producing a live dvd at some point would be madness commercially.

It has to happen.  Historically, this is one of the biggest events in rock history in regard to tours/reunions.  To not put out a a DVD (possibly of multiple shows) would be absolutely loony.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: GypsySoul on July 16, 2017, 05:02:01 PM
Silly song review in Entertainment Weekly mag for the AFD 30th Anniversary.

(http://gypsysoul.webspaceforme.net/EWafd.jpg)


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: TheBaconman on July 16, 2017, 05:52:49 PM
Silly song review in Entertainment Weekly mag for the AFD 30th Anniversary.

(http://gypsysoul.webspaceforme.net/EWafd.jpg)

When was the last time "Anything Goes" was played


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Spirit on July 16, 2017, 07:11:41 PM
In the spirit of the anniversary coming up, just a little fan art.

(http://imageshack.com/a/img922/4585/Ex0Pc5.png)


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Bridge on July 17, 2017, 12:30:33 AM
That's a great picture of the original fab five!   8)  But sweet mary, that was a stupid song review.   :P

When was the last time "Anything Goes" was played

I don't think it's been played live since 1988.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: izzyjim on July 17, 2017, 02:59:39 AM
In the spirit of the anniversary coming up, just a little fan art.

(http://imageshack.com/a/img922/4585/Ex0Pc5.png)

Yeah well *%#@ you! for a minute there I thought it was something official  :rant: 

And the review is hilarious


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Irish gunner II on July 17, 2017, 10:46:00 AM
That's a great picture of the original fab five!   8)  But sweet mary, that was a stupid song review.   :P

When was the last time "Anything Goes" was played

I don't think it's been played live since 1988.

Think about you would probably be something similar.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: izzyjim on July 17, 2017, 11:37:19 AM
That's a great picture of the original fab five!   8)  But sweet mary, that was a stupid song review.   :P

When was the last time "Anything Goes" was played

I don't think it's been played live since 1988.

Think about you would probably be something similar.

Haven't they played Think About You in 2001?

Edit: Yup, RIR3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUoK5cafNSU


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Oliver on July 17, 2017, 11:53:44 AM
That's a great picture of the original fab five!   8)  But sweet mary, that was a stupid song review.   :P

When was the last time "Anything Goes" was played

I don't think it's been played live since 1988.

Think about you would probably be something similar.

Haven't they played Think About You in 2001?

Edit: Yup, RIR3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUoK5cafNSU

They played it on a regular basis on the 2002 tour, and a lot of times in 2006.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Spirit on July 17, 2017, 05:24:34 PM
Someone on twitter posted this pic from Times Square....


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DE9jHqhVwAAMUsw.jpg)


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Spirit on July 17, 2017, 05:25:57 PM
Outside the Apollo Theater..

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DE9HnfEUwAEa9ol.jpg)


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: izzyjim on July 17, 2017, 05:30:52 PM
And all hell breaks loose in 3... 2... 1...


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: johnreed3344 on July 17, 2017, 05:41:43 PM
awesome stuff I gotta be on the lookout tomorrow in NYC


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: JAEBALL on July 17, 2017, 06:21:33 PM
Since I live within walking distance to Apollo it's going to sting so freaking bad if I can't go. ( like almost 100 percent I can't lol)


So ..... will Izzy and Steven be there .... :)


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: TheBaconman on July 17, 2017, 06:56:42 PM
Outside the Apollo Theater..

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DE9HnfEUwAEa9ol.jpg)

Well with a poster like that.  You would almost think they may be celebrating the album at this show!   If they do play the album in full that would be very cool.  I really hope Steven and izzy would show up for it.   Or it would sorta seem like the hall of fame without Axl


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: 14 Yrs Of Silence on July 17, 2017, 07:49:27 PM
Also would be great promotion if they coupled this show with a deluxe cd package


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: TheBaconman on July 17, 2017, 08:12:28 PM
Also would be great promotion if they coupled this show with a deluxe cd package

What would you want to have in that?

Really there isn't much more I havnt seen or heard from this era of the band, that I would want to buy...   I have the CD, I have the album, I have all there CDs actually, so adding in a new track list wouldn't really benefit me from a band. 

I would love to have an updated interview with all the AFD members and old friends and record producers and execs.  Now that would be gold.  That I would watch and pay for it via it either being on HBO or standard TV with comercials.

Then do this same interview/documentary for every album this band has released. 

Similar to what HBO is doing with DR Dre and Jimmy Ivine on "The Defiant ones".  What a great great show


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: 14 Yrs Of Silence on July 17, 2017, 09:05:55 PM
I'm enjoying the Defiant Ones, tremendous documentary.

I get it, I'd have most if not all of the extras they'd put on, but they can certainly remaster it, include early demos and outtakes, clean up and enhance the sound there too, add some live shows (Marquee and Ritz) along with interviews.  Would be great promotion to celebrate the album, and get people excited about purchasing GN'R material again.  I get it, we want unreleased tracks, we want new recordings, but I'd happily take this for now.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Spirit on July 17, 2017, 09:13:18 PM
Posted by Del James in Times Square

(https://instagram.ftrd1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/t51.2885-15/e35/20065648_1412319138850329_1572855064320540672_n.jpg)


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: TheBaconman on July 17, 2017, 10:01:44 PM
I'm enjoying the Defiant Ones, tremendous documentary.

I get it, I'd have most if not all of the extras they'd put on, but they can certainly remaster it, include early demos and outtakes, clean up and enhance the sound there too, add some live shows (Marquee and Ritz) along with interviews.  Would be great promotion to celebrate the album, and get people excited about purchasing GN'R material again.  I get it, we want unreleased tracks, we want new recordings, but I'd happily take this for now.

I didn't mention new recordings or supposed finished material hahaha.  Not since one goober on here actually said, he thought fans would rather hear more cover songs than new material.   Good god

Sure a deluxe AFD, may be interesting.  I don't see it, but I am sure I would buy it.  I did buy the last vegas blue ray after all.

The money would be in the HBO documentary though.  My money


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: izzyjim on July 18, 2017, 01:43:00 AM
Also would be great promotion if they coupled this show with a deluxe cd package

What would you want to have in that?

Really there isn't much more I havnt seen or heard from this era of the band, that I would want to buy...   I have the CD, I have the album, I have all there CDs actually, so adding in a new track list wouldn't really benefit me from a band. 

This guy, this fucking guy.. gotta love him!  :hihi:


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Lord Stan on July 18, 2017, 03:20:43 AM
But why there is no gig on the actual birthday ???


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: allwaystired on July 18, 2017, 05:25:11 AM
FUCKING HELL! YES!!!!!!


Something is really happening!!!!!!??


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: pilferk on July 18, 2017, 10:09:43 AM
But why there is no gig on the actual birthday ???


So...there sorta is.

The show starts at 9:30 PM the day before (July 20)...and is slated to end at 12:30 (so after midnight) the day OF (July 21) the anniversary.



Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Bazfreak on July 18, 2017, 12:00:13 PM
They have little or maybe no time to rehearse anything new...I mean...playing AFD start to end. I really doubt that.
Maybe Steven and Izzy show up for a couple of songs and that's all. It would be awesome and first time since 1990.  : ok: 


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Spirit on July 18, 2017, 12:23:16 PM
They have little or maybe no time to rehearse anything new...I mean...playing AFD start to end. I really doubt that.

You're Crazy is already on the list of alternates on the setlist I believe.

That only leaves Think About You and Anything Goes as "new" songs. The rest of them they've been playing on the tour already.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Walapino on July 18, 2017, 12:31:02 PM
They have little or maybe no time to rehearse anything new...I mean...playing AFD start to end. I really doubt that.

You're Crazy is already on the list of alternates on the setlist I believe.

That only leaves Think About You and Anything Goes as "new" songs. The rest of them they've been playing on the tour already.

Yeah and Think About You has always been a song considered by NuGNR so Im pretty sure with a couple of run downs that song is a posibility.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: dmathski on July 18, 2017, 03:01:13 PM
As far as "guests" for this 30th anny show I would say Adler is a very strong likelihood. Would be surprised with Izzy. Others like Angus or Bach but been there done that


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: C0ma on July 18, 2017, 04:26:20 PM
As far as "guests" for this 30th anny show I would say Adler is a very strong likelihood. Would be surprised with Izzy. Others like Angus or Bach but been there done that

Angus I don't mind, but for the love of God, please keep Sebastian away from this. He is a walking hair metal cliche.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: dmathski on July 18, 2017, 05:40:42 PM
As far as "guests" for this 30th anny show I would say Adler is a very strong likelihood. Would be surprised with Izzy. Others like Angus or Bach but been there done that

Angus I don't mind, but for the love of God, please keep Sebastian away from this. He is a walking hair metal cliche.

Been there done that also with Lenny Kravitz and Kid Rock


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: sakuL on July 18, 2017, 05:42:19 PM
They have little or maybe no time to rehearse anything new...I mean...playing AFD start to end. I really doubt that.

You're Crazy is already on the list of alternates on the setlist I believe.

That only leaves Think About You and Anything Goes as "new" songs. The rest of them they've been playing on the tour already.

Yeah and Think About You has always been a song considered by NuGNR so Im pretty sure with a couple of run downs that song is a posibility.

Not only considered, but actually played several times in 2001, 2002 and 2006


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: TheBaconman on July 18, 2017, 07:06:23 PM
As far as "guests" for this 30th anny show I would say Adler is a very strong likelihood. Would be surprised with Izzy. Others like Angus or Bach but been there done that

What in the world would Angus or Bach have to do with AFD 30?   

Of this is a celebration of the original album.  I would prefer it would be done with the original guys on the album.  Played the way it was on the album.   Or not at all

Strip down the band.  Do we really need two piano players there for a celebration of one of the rawest albums ever    If it's a true celebration.  No

If it's just another shower on this concert tour.  Then have at it


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Irish gunner II on July 18, 2017, 07:45:33 PM
http://www.laweekly.com/music/appetite-for-destructions-30th-anniversary-how-guns-n-roses-transformed-the-sunset-strip-8437455?utm_content=buffer45ce8&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer (http://www.laweekly.com/music/appetite-for-destructions-30th-anniversary-how-guns-n-roses-transformed-the-sunset-strip-8437455?utm_content=buffer45ce8&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer)

A good piece about the 30th anniversary of appetite from someone who was in LA during the time.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: faldor on July 19, 2017, 01:42:50 AM
As far as "guests" for this 30th anny show I would say Adler is a very strong likelihood. Would be surprised with Izzy. Others like Angus or Bach but been there done that

Angus I don't mind, but for the love of God, please keep Sebastian away from this. He is a walking hair metal cliche.
Baz has either had surgery or is going to have surgery to fix his instrument, so I don't think he'll be singing. He could be there though.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Bridge on July 19, 2017, 01:50:24 AM
What in the world would Angus or Bach have to do with AFD 30?   

Of this is a celebration of the original album.  I would prefer it would be done with the original guys on the album.  Played the way it was on the album.   Or not at all

Strip down the band.  Do we really need two piano players there for a celebration of one of the rawest albums ever    If it's a true celebration.  No

I agree 100% with everything stated here.  We need the original five members, no extras.  No "special guests".  Play the whole album as it was meant to be heard.  Nothing else is necessary.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: HBK on July 19, 2017, 05:59:56 PM
Obviously IZZY

 :love:


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: kaasupoltin on July 20, 2017, 02:04:16 AM
Play the whole album as it was meant to be heard.

Pffff, go listen to the studio album then.

In my opinion AFD is one of those albums that are not meant to be heard in one definite way. That's what makes it so great.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: HBK on July 20, 2017, 04:10:11 AM
This Simply:

Steven, Izzy, Axl, Slash,  Duff

 : ok:


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Lord Stan on July 20, 2017, 05:08:02 AM
Play the whole album as it was meant to be heard.

Pffff, go listen to the studio album then.

In my opinion AFD is one of those albums that are not meant to be heard in one definite way. That's what makes it so great.

It is and one of the best ways to play it is in a jukebox, the whole album and in the correct order. Then of course there aren't many jukeboxes around anymore and some of them start mixing songs if too many are played from the same album >:(


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Lord Stan on July 21, 2017, 01:52:38 AM
Any comments, anyone? Or do you need to get paid from some media company so we take you for real when you comment.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Spirit on July 21, 2017, 01:56:33 AM
Any comments, anyone? Or do you need to get paid from some media company so we take you for real when you comment.

What do you mean?


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Lord Stan on July 21, 2017, 02:12:48 AM
Any comments, anyone? Or do you need to get paid from some media company so we take you for real when you comment.

What do you mean?

Any reports of this biggest day the rock history has ever known.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: GypsySoul on July 21, 2017, 02:17:36 AM
Any comments, anyone? Or do you need to get paid from some media company so we take you for real when you comment.

What do you mean?

Any reports of this biggest day the rock history has ever known.
It's like quarter after 2 in the morning here in NYC so the anniversary of "this biggest day the rock history has ever known" just started.  On the west coast it's still the day before "this biggest day the rock history has ever known"  ;)


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: TheBaconman on July 21, 2017, 02:24:39 AM
Any comments, anyone? Or do you need to get paid from some media company so we take you for real when you comment.

What do you mean?

Any reports of this biggest day the rock history has ever known.
It's like quarter after 2 in the morning here in NYC so the anniversary of "this biggest day the rock history has ever known" just started.  On the west coast it's still the day before "this biggest day the rock history has ever known"  ;)


What is this supposed to mean?

Nothing is going to happen today

The band just played a small concert that used both the AFD album cover and the anniversary of the release of the album and they couldn't even acknowledge it on stage once.   Brutal


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: GypsySoul on July 21, 2017, 02:29:07 AM
The band just played a small concert that used both the AFD album cover and the anniversary of the release of the album and they couldn't even acknowledge it on stage once.   Brutal

The band just live streamed the audio of tonight's entire show on their radio station that was launched in celebration of the 30th anniversary.  Do you seriously need them to spell it out more than that?


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: TheBaconman on July 21, 2017, 02:33:07 AM
The band just played a small concert that used both the AFD album cover and the anniversary of the release of the album and they couldn't even acknowledge it on stage once.   Brutal

The band just live streamed the audio of tonight's entire show on their radio station that was launched in celebration of the 30th anniversary.  Do you seriously need them to spell it out more than that?


The band just played a show they have played every night for the past year and a half in a small club that they where paid very well for.   

Awesome.  We got to listen to the show many of us have already seen love and heard many times

For the rare opportunity of this band playing for an event that used AFD 30 to advertise.  I was expecting something more related to the anniversary

At least some crowd interaction.  Something

All that this has me thinking is that come the arena leg. Nothing will change


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: GypsySoul on July 21, 2017, 02:47:26 AM
The band just played a show they have played every night for the past year and a half in a small club that they where paid very well for.   

Awesome.  We got to listen to the show many of us have already seen love and heard many times

For the rare opportunity of this band playing for an event that used AFD 30 to advertise.  I was expecting something more related to the anniversary

At least some crowd interaction.  Something

All that this has me thinking is that come the arena leg. Nothing will change

Isn't this the first show that audio's been live streamed since the rejoining? And it comes on the day for the fans to enjoy in celebration of the anniversary.

They did give us fans something special.  It's been well advertised as exactly what it was... a live audio stream on the GNR radio station of the entire 3 hour plus show.  Just because YOU were expecting something else doesn't mean they didn't give us what was advertised.



Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Lord Stan on July 21, 2017, 02:58:22 AM
I must agree. How do you do Times Square advertising? Anyone who is capable of buying that plane ticket and negotiate their way into this some amazing and glorious square see all this.

But they don't care, why would they, aren't there other things to see and do in the city.

But most importantly this was an invitation only gig and should have been a celebration of something.

But nothing was celebrated, just nothing.

For a very long time we hear nothing from the organisers. Could they just come out and explain what was this.

Life will go on but for the future history books, what was this and why?


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: ITARocker on July 21, 2017, 03:08:34 AM
The band just played a show they have played every night for the past year and a half in a small club that they where paid very well for.   

Awesome.  We got to listen to the show many of us have already seen love and heard many times

For the rare opportunity of this band playing for an event that used AFD 30 to advertise.  I was expecting something more related to the anniversary

At least some crowd interaction.  Something

All that this has me thinking is that come the arena leg. Nothing will change

Isn't this the first show that audio's been live streamed since the rejoining? And it comes on the day for the fans to enjoy in celebration of the anniversary.

They did give us fans something special.  It's been well advertised as exactly what it was... a live audio stream on the GNR radio station of the entire 3 hour plus show.  Just because YOU were expecting something else doesn't mean they didn't give us what was advertised.



Sorry but don't you celebrate your anniversary with your partner???... It just makes no sense at all as well as the "great announcement" of the tour extra-dates. Just bullshit, who fuckin cares about a streaming when you live in the periscope, yt (& more) era? I actually did expect this, but i'm still disappointed cause i didn't want this to be just another extra milking...Couldnt steven play at least the AFD songs? Cmon...Nonsense event


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: GypsySoul on July 21, 2017, 03:09:23 AM
How do you do Times Square advertising?
Nothing on that billboard indicated it was an advertisement for anything.

GNR bought space in Time Square to post a billboard in celebration of the 30th Anniversary of the release of AFD.


Edited to add:  It wasn't just some random fan streaming from their cell phone on periscope or youtube or facebook. (even though I truly appreciate and enjoy those).  This ENTIRE show audio was streamed by the band themselves for the fans enjoyment.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: ITARocker on July 21, 2017, 03:13:27 AM
How do you do Times Square advertising?
Nothing on that billboard indicated it was an advertisement for anything.

GNR bought space in Time Square to post a billboard in celebration of the 30th Anniversary of the release of AFD.




Yep and was AFD celebrated? No, not at all, wake up.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: izzyjim on July 21, 2017, 04:33:09 AM
How do you do Times Square advertising?
Nothing on that billboard indicated it was an advertisement for anything.

GNR bought space in Time Square to post a billboard in celebration of the 30th Anniversary of the release of AFD.



Yep and was AFD celebrated? No, not at all, wake up.

How about not yet?
Maybe, just maybe, there's still shit to come


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: ITARocker on July 21, 2017, 06:04:01 AM
How do you do Times Square advertising?
Nothing on that billboard indicated it was an advertisement for anything.

GNR bought space in Time Square to post a billboard in celebration of the 30th Anniversary of the release of AFD.



Yep and was AFD celebrated? No, not at all, wake up.

How about not yet?
Maybe, just maybe, there's still shit to come

After 25 years of axl rose i think i have enough experience to say: don't be naive. :hihi: :hihi: Nothing is going to happen, just nothing. But it's not that big problem: just another bitter shot of gnr drink


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: zombux on July 21, 2017, 06:11:55 AM
After 25 years of axl rose i think i have enough experience to say: don't be naive. :hihi: :hihi: Nothing is going to happen, just nothing. But it's not that big problem: just another bitter shot of gnr drink
+1


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Lord Stan on July 21, 2017, 06:17:38 AM
How do you do Times Square advertising?
Nothing on that billboard indicated it was an advertisement for anything.

GNR bought space in Time Square to post a billboard in celebration of the 30th Anniversary of the release of AFD.



Yep and was AFD celebrated? No, not at all, wake up.

How about not yet?
Maybe, just maybe, there's still shit to come

After 25 years of axl rose i think i have enough experience to say: don't be naive. :hihi: :hihi: Nothing is going to happen, just nothing. But it's not that big problem: just another bitter shot of gnr drink

Just this. Seen them, been there where ever I possibly could, multiple shows and multiple countries. Then this morning you wake up at home feeling empty. Normally, after a gig you feel like it was so great you want to tell everyone, also those who couldn't care less.

I have enough experience of this to know we will not hear anything new ever. I could just cry and for all the non-happiness reasons.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: allwaystired on July 21, 2017, 08:34:26 AM
I'm still baffled by those posters. I can't see the reasoning behind spending the money on them.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Drew on July 21, 2017, 08:36:51 AM
AFD has stood timeless for me. It's rawness and unfiltered emotion is what makes it spectacular. Thirty years later, the album and the songs "Welcome To The Jungle", "Paradise City", and "Sweet Child O' Mine" are still at the top of some of my favorite songs.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: faldor on July 21, 2017, 10:29:50 AM
I must agree. How do you do Times Square advertising? Anyone who is capable of buying that plane ticket and negotiate their way into this some amazing and glorious square see all this.

But they don't care, why would they, aren't there other things to see and do in the city.

But most importantly this was an invitation only gig and should have been a celebration of something.

But nothing was celebrated, just nothing.

For a very long time we hear nothing from the organisers. Could they just come out and explain what was this.

Life will go on but for the future history books, what was this and why?
This was a concert sponsored by SiriusXM to help get the band exposure to their millions of subscribers before taking off on their next round of US dates. Maybe some people tuned in and decided they'd like to see them live this summer. As for the show itself, it was invite only. A lot of SiriusXM employees, celebrities, contest winners, etc. I can only imagine the backlash if they did play AFD in its entirety last night in front of that crowd. The same people would be complaining that the real fans didn't get to experience that and the band doesn't care about them, blah, blah, blah.

It is what it is. This is reality. Don't expect to be surprised until you actually are. I don't know what else to tell you. Just some friendly advice. Take it or leave it.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: slashsbaconpit on July 21, 2017, 10:40:57 AM
I must agree. How do you do Times Square advertising? Anyone who is capable of buying that plane ticket and negotiate their way into this some amazing and glorious square see all this.

But they don't care, why would they, aren't there other things to see and do in the city.

But most importantly this was an invitation only gig and should have been a celebration of something.

But nothing was celebrated, just nothing.

For a very long time we hear nothing from the organisers. Could they just come out and explain what was this.

Life will go on but for the future history books, what was this and why?
This was a concert sponsored by SiriusXM to help get the band exposure to their millions of subscribers before taking off on their next round of US dates. Maybe some people tuned in and decided they'd like to see them live this summer. As for the show itself, it was invite only. A lot of SiriusXM employees, celebrities, contest winners, etc. I can only imagine the backlash if they did play AFD in its entirety last night in front of that crowd. The same people would be complaining that the real fans didn't get to experience that and the band doesn't care about them, blah, blah, blah.

It is what it is. This is reality. Don't expect to be surprised until you actually are. I don't know what else to tell you. Just some friendly advice. Take it or leave it.
True.
Maybe they don't feel the need to celebrate AFD. Maybe we just got to experience a great show, GNR fans across the world, together. Maybe we should stop pissing and moaning about everything?


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: pilferk on July 21, 2017, 11:07:30 AM
It is what it is. This is reality. Don't expect to be surprised until you actually are. I don't know what else to tell you. Just some friendly advice. Take it or leave it.

Words to fucking live by, man. Words to fucking live by. :)


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Lord Stan on July 21, 2017, 11:19:51 AM
I must agree. How do you do Times Square advertising? Anyone who is capable of buying that plane ticket and negotiate their way into this some amazing and glorious square see all this.

But they don't care, why would they, aren't there other things to see and do in the city.

But most importantly this was an invitation only gig and should have been a celebration of something.

But nothing was celebrated, just nothing.

For a very long time we hear nothing from the organisers. Could they just come out and explain what was this.

Life will go on but for the future history books, what was this and why?

It is what it is. This is reality. Don't expect to be surprised until you actually are. I don't know what else to tell you. Just some friendly advice. Take it or leave it.

None of them need the money but maybe Melissa is on a little lower cut.

I expect to be very surprised if they dare to tour Europe again under the same pretence. Of course I would go but please just don't do that. Why this is a selling competition.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: allwaystired on July 21, 2017, 11:29:14 AM
I must agree. How do you do Times Square advertising? Anyone who is capable of buying that plane ticket and negotiate their way into this some amazing and glorious square see all this.

But they don't care, why would they, aren't there other things to see and do in the city.

But most importantly this was an invitation only gig and should have been a celebration of something.

But nothing was celebrated, just nothing.

For a very long time we hear nothing from the organisers. Could they just come out and explain what was this.

Life will go on but for the future history books, what was this and why?

It is what it is. This is reality. Don't expect to be surprised until you actually are. I don't know what else to tell you. Just some friendly advice. Take it or leave it.

None of them need the money but maybe Melissa is on a little lower cut.

I expect to be very surprised if they dare to tour Europe again under the same pretence. Of course I would go but please just don't do that. Why this is a selling competition.

If they do tour Europe again, on this ticket, they wouldn't be doing stadiums.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: faldor on July 21, 2017, 12:47:40 PM
I must agree. How do you do Times Square advertising? Anyone who is capable of buying that plane ticket and negotiate their way into this some amazing and glorious square see all this.

But they don't care, why would they, aren't there other things to see and do in the city.

But most importantly this was an invitation only gig and should have been a celebration of something.

But nothing was celebrated, just nothing.

For a very long time we hear nothing from the organisers. Could they just come out and explain what was this.

Life will go on but for the future history books, what was this and why?

It is what it is. This is reality. Don't expect to be surprised until you actually are. I don't know what else to tell you. Just some friendly advice. Take it or leave it.

None of them need the money but maybe Melissa is on a little lower cut.

I expect to be very surprised if they dare to tour Europe again under the same pretence. Of course I would go but please just don't do that. Why this is a selling competition.
That's easy for you to say that they don't need the money. I'm sure they strongly disagree with you and frankly you're in no position to speak intelligently about someone else's financial situation. It's business, try not to take it personal.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Lord Stan on July 21, 2017, 01:07:44 PM
I must agree. How do you do Times Square advertising? Anyone who is capable of buying that plane ticket and negotiate their way into this some amazing and glorious square see all this.

But they don't care, why would they, aren't there other things to see and do in the city.

But most importantly this was an invitation only gig and should have been a celebration of something.

But nothing was celebrated, just nothing.

For a very long time we hear nothing from the organisers. Could they just come out and explain what was this.

Life will go on but for the future history books, what was this and why?

It is what it is. This is reality. Don't expect to be surprised until you actually are. I don't know what else to tell you. Just some friendly advice. Take it or leave it.

None of them need the money but maybe Melissa is on a little lower cut.

I expect to be very surprised if they dare to tour Europe again under the same pretence. Of course I would go but please just don't do that. Why this is a selling competition.
That's easy for you to say that they don't need the money. I'm sure they strongly disagree with you and frankly you're in no position to speak intelligently about someone else's financial situation. It's business, try not to take it personal.

Yeah, I'd also like to know how much their accountants are earning for taking care of some bills. When you have that much money you need people around to take care of it.

If you think that is not happening just tell an alternative.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: johnreed3344 on July 21, 2017, 01:18:41 PM
Today is a special day for me.....I got Appetite when I was 12 years old back in 2000 and still really no taste in music. Lets just say that changed instantly and GNR have been there for me since then. From the 'Axl" era to the "NITL" era it has all been so great. I was blessed to see them 4 times last year and it looks like ill see them 5 times this fall in the tri-state area of NYC. Enjoy the day Gunners i'll be cranking it all day!  :peace:


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: C0ma on July 21, 2017, 01:24:50 PM
I must agree. How do you do Times Square advertising? Anyone who is capable of buying that plane ticket and negotiate their way into this some amazing and glorious square see all this.

But they don't care, why would they, aren't there other things to see and do in the city.

But most importantly this was an invitation only gig and should have been a celebration of something.

But nothing was celebrated, just nothing.

For a very long time we hear nothing from the organisers. Could they just come out and explain what was this.

Life will go on but for the future history books, what was this and why?

It is what it is. This is reality. Don't expect to be surprised until you actually are. I don't know what else to tell you. Just some friendly advice. Take it or leave it.

None of them need the money but maybe Melissa is on a little lower cut.

I expect to be very surprised if they dare to tour Europe again under the same pretence. Of course I would go but please just don't do that. Why this is a selling competition.

I love when someone decides that someone else has 'made enough money'.

This also was more about the 30 million subscribers that now have the ability to hear a top notch live performance, vs. the 1500 that were in the room... Sure they played to them and fed off of their energy, but for both Guns and Sirius this was about putting asses in seats in front of Radios, computers, Amazon Echo's, and smartphone/tablets. With that said, why risk deviating from the script on that kind of stage? DX said it best earlier today, do you want that large live streaming audience to hear them fumble though Locomotive, IRS, or Anything Goes? What they needed to do was 1000% avoid a 2002 VMA heading into the second leg of this tour to hit the US which has been an under performing market for Axl in the years prior to NITL.

Last nights set front to back was about the best I've heard from the this tour (obviously audio quality helps)... but you have to realize not everyone jumps on a message board every day that publishes the setlist, periscope links, and you tube recordings of every show. I would say conservatively that tens of thousands of people experienced that for the first time last night, and they certainly didn't sleepwalk though the performance.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: pilferk on July 21, 2017, 02:34:48 PM
I would say conservatively that tens of thousands of people experienced that for the first time last night, and they certainly didn't sleepwalk though the performance.

And they've replayed the show TWICE, so far, today, during more "casual fan" friendly hours, too.

So...there's definitely a TON of exposure that comes from this.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Thorned Rose on July 21, 2017, 03:12:47 PM
Been a long long time since I posted.

I still check in every so often. I see that some of us are still grinding through the thick mud.

TO comment on topic, I'm very surprised that no 30th Anniversary AFD hasn't been announced.

Very disappointing. Would love to get a 3 disc set. Remaster it maybe, demos from that era... anything and the 3rd disc can be maybe the 99 AFD, or even ritz or something. Would be great.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: allwaystired on July 21, 2017, 03:16:51 PM
Been a long long time since I posted.

I still check in every so often. I see that some of us are still grinding through the thick mud.

TO comment on topic, I'm very surprised that no 30th Anniversary AFD hasn't been announced.

Very disappointing. Would love to get a 3 disc set. Remaster it maybe, demos from that era... anything and the 3rd disc can be maybe the 99 AFD, or even ritz or something. Would be great.

Don't think you're alone in that. It's pretty remarkable, all considered.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Thorned Rose on July 21, 2017, 03:28:58 PM
Been a long long time since I posted.

I still check in every so often. I see that some of us are still grinding through the thick mud.

TO comment on topic, I'm very surprised that no 30th Anniversary AFD hasn't been announced.

Very disappointing. Would love to get a 3 disc set. Remaster it maybe, demos from that era... anything and the 3rd disc can be maybe the 99 AFD, or even ritz or something. Would be great.

Don't think you're alone in that. It's pretty remarkable, all considered.


Yeah. With Gn'R, since Axl holds the keys to the kingdom... sadly... the common sense thing or the direct thing is never really there.

Gn'R fans are starving for releases. There's more in the vault than we think. You would just think that they would "for sure" release a 30th thing for AFD.

AFD is a top 10 album of all time to me. It is very very good. It's great... it's whatever other word I can say. It's just awesome. I think maybe Axl is still not wanting to "live through Appetite".

He has always wanted to "bury" it as he said years ago. Does he feel that way now? Probably not. It is very strange that no news of a special edition has broken. Just doesn't make any sense. Why not celebrate an album he made 30 years ago? He'd make a lot of money off it... even more money.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: allwaystired on July 21, 2017, 04:01:55 PM
Been a long long time since I posted.

I still check in every so often. I see that some of us are still grinding through the thick mud.

TO comment on topic, I'm very surprised that no 30th Anniversary AFD hasn't been announced.

Very disappointing. Would love to get a 3 disc set. Remaster it maybe, demos from that era... anything and the 3rd disc can be maybe the 99 AFD, or even ritz or something. Would be great.

Don't think you're alone in that. It's pretty remarkable, all considered.


Yeah. With Gn'R, since Axl holds the keys to the kingdom... sadly... the common sense thing or the direct thing is never really there.

Gn'R fans are starving for releases. There's more in the vault than we think. You would just think that they would "for sure" release a 30th thing for AFD.

AFD is a top 10 album of all time to me. It is very very good. It's great... it's whatever other word I can say. It's just awesome. I think maybe Axl is still not wanting to "live through Appetite".

He has always wanted to "bury" it as he said years ago. Does he feel that way now? Probably not. It is very strange that no news of a special edition has broken. Just doesn't make any sense. Why not celebrate an album he made 30 years ago? He'd make a lot of money off it... even more money.

I can totally see why he wouldn't want to celebrate it, and would want to 'bury' it - no sense on focusing on the past, wants to move on, etc etc. All that would make perfect sense, and I really respect him for that.....so let's have a look in that vault then, and move on with some fresh stuff. It's almost as if he doesn't want to really acknowledge the past, but also doesn't want to look to the future. It's a truly odd mix. I'll remain baffled as to the existence of those 'Appetite30' posters for months I think!


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Slashrose on July 21, 2017, 04:44:11 PM

Why the hell are not they releasing a deluxe version of AFD?


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: TheBaconman on July 21, 2017, 04:49:43 PM

Why the hell are not they releasing a deluxe version of AFD?

Why are they not even acknowledging it at all


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: cineater on July 21, 2017, 08:24:51 PM
I don't get it.  Isn't it the fans' job to be cheering 30 years of AFD and showing the band some love.  How stuck up would they be if they went around putting it in your face?  I feel like we have really let them.  All we ever do is want and want more.  When is it time to give back?  Anybody remember when Eva took up a collection and welcomed Axl and the band back with a full page add in the LA Times?  We don't have to wait for the band to start the party, they are the guest.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Ginger King on July 21, 2017, 09:50:34 PM
Been a long long time since I posted.

I still check in every so often. I see that some of us are still grinding through the thick mud.

TO comment on topic, I'm very surprised that no 30th Anniversary AFD hasn't been announced.

Very disappointing. Would love to get a 3 disc set. Remaster it maybe, demos from that era... anything and the 3rd disc can be maybe the 99 AFD, or even ritz or something. Would be great.

Don't think you're alone in that. It's pretty remarkable, all considered.


Yeah. With Gn'R, since Axl holds the keys to the kingdom... sadly... the common sense thing or the direct thing is never really there.

Gn'R fans are starving for releases. There's more in the vault than we think. You would just think that they would "for sure" release a 30th thing for AFD.

AFD is a top 10 album of all time to me. It is very very good. It's great... it's whatever other word I can say. It's just awesome. I think maybe Axl is still not wanting to "live through Appetite".

He has always wanted to "bury" it as he said years ago. Does he feel that way now? Probably not. It is very strange that no news of a special edition has broken. Just doesn't make any sense. Why not celebrate an album he made 30 years ago? He'd make a lot of money off it... even more money.

Preach.  What's weird is that they are acknowledging the anniversary (Times Square sign) but then are not following it up with any special release.  You'd think it would be one or the other.  I just got the sense the everything was building towards this...the Sirius channel, the ads, the Apollo show.  But then the curtain drops on the 30th anniversary and...nothing.  Just weird.  The iron really couldn't be hotter.

Also, people say nobody buys albums anymore.  Release a special edition AFD and let's see if that holds true.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: C0ma on July 21, 2017, 11:27:01 PM

Also, people say nobody buys albums anymore.  Release a special edition AFD and let's see if that holds true.

They just released a few different options for a Sgt Pepper 50th anniversary, it isn't selling. It did bump the traditional release into the top 60, but the re-release isn't selling.

I am a massive GnR fan, and think AFD is one of the most important rock records of all time, but lets not try to compare them to the Beatles and Sgt Pepper.

Nothing sells these days. It's all about streaming and social media.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: TheBaconman on July 22, 2017, 12:02:52 AM

Also, people say nobody buys albums anymore.  Release a special edition AFD and let's see if that holds true.

They just released a few different options for a Sgt Pepper 50th anniversary, it isn't selling. It did bump the traditional release into the top 60, but the re-release isn't selling.

I am a massive GnR fan, and think AFD is one of the most important rock records of all time, but lets not try to compare them to the Beatles and Sgt Pepper.

Nothing sells these days. It's all about streaming and social media.

I just bought two albums today.  Each one was 40 bucks.

The record store in the mall was just packed....

Shit is selling.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Nikki_Sixx on July 22, 2017, 05:21:56 AM
All we ever do is want and want more.  When is it time to give back? 

I think we've been 'giving back' enough since '96 ?

It's time to get something in return.



Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: allwaystired on July 22, 2017, 06:19:02 AM
Been a long long time since I posted.

I still check in every so often. I see that some of us are still grinding through the thick mud.

TO comment on topic, I'm very surprised that no 30th Anniversary AFD hasn't been announced.

Very disappointing. Would love to get a 3 disc set. Remaster it maybe, demos from that era... anything and the 3rd disc can be maybe the 99 AFD, or even ritz or something. Would be great.

Don't think you're alone in that. It's pretty remarkable, all considered.


Yeah. With Gn'R, since Axl holds the keys to the kingdom... sadly... the common sense thing or the direct thing is never really there.

Gn'R fans are starving for releases. There's more in the vault than we think. You would just think that they would "for sure" release a 30th thing for AFD.

AFD is a top 10 album of all time to me. It is very very good. It's great... it's whatever other word I can say. It's just awesome. I think maybe Axl is still not wanting to "live through Appetite".

He has always wanted to "bury" it as he said years ago. Does he feel that way now? Probably not. It is very strange that no news of a special edition has broken. Just doesn't make any sense. Why not celebrate an album he made 30 years ago? He'd make a lot of money off it... even more money.

Preach.  What's weird is that they are acknowledging the anniversary (Times Square sign) but then are not following it up with any special release.  You'd think it would be one or the other.  I just got the sense the everything was building towards this...the Sirius channel, the ads, the Apollo show.  But then the curtain drops on the 30th anniversary and...nothing.  Just weird.  The iron really couldn't be hotter.

Also, people say nobody buys albums anymore.  Release a special edition AFD and let's see if that holds true.

That's how I feel. Why the posters? Was it just a coincidence they chose to do a smaller show on that day? It really is weird. As for the sales issue- i don't think that's it. It might not sell like it would have done 20  years ago, but the death of music sales is a bit overplayed. The beatles have so so much product out there that the audience is diluted. A rerelease would sell ok. Certainly well enough to make money.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: faldor on July 22, 2017, 08:57:36 AM
I remember the days when people complained to all ends of the earth that they played too much from Appetite.

This is the lineup, this is the basic set list, this is the show, this is what you're going to get. If you haven't figured that out yet or don't like it, I don't know what to tell you. A lot of people are loving what they're doing right now, so they must be doing something right.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: allwaystired on July 22, 2017, 12:08:09 PM
I remember the days when people complained to all ends of the earth that they played too much from Appetite.

This is the lineup, this is the basic set list, this is the show, this is what you're going to get. If you haven't figured that out yet or don't like it, I don't know what to tell you. A lot of people are loving what they're doing right now, so they must be doing something right.

Yep! Things change for sure.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Lord Stan on July 23, 2017, 02:18:26 AM
All we ever do is want and want more.  When is it time to give back? 

I think we've been 'giving back' enough since '96 ?

It's time to get something in return.



Not giving back? I don't care how much exactly I have spent on flights to weird foreign countries, on accommodation and the tickets are exactly not cheap either. You also have to buy some food and drinks to survive.

It's time to get something in return.



Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: izzyjim on July 23, 2017, 03:05:06 AM

Also, people say nobody buys albums anymore.  Release a special edition AFD and let's see if that holds true.

They just released a few different options for a Sgt Pepper 50th anniversary, it isn't selling. It did bump the traditional release into the top 60, but the re-release isn't selling.

I am a massive GnR fan, and think AFD is one of the most important rock records of all time, but lets not try to compare them to the Beatles and Sgt Pepper.

Nothing sells these days. It's all about streaming and social media.

I just bought two albums today.  Each one was 40 bucks.

The record store in the mall was just packed....

Shit is selling.

You know, I really hate to get into this kind of conversations, cause I don't find the point in it - but as a former record store owner I find your words fucking insulting.

You bought two albums? whoop de fucking do!
Hey Warner/ Universal/ Sony - and all you whinny musicians (a la The Who's Roger Daltrey) quit your whining - the B-Man just said people ARE buying records!, hell, he just bought TWO! for FULL PRICE!

This industry is dying, for multiple reasons - downloading motherfuckers (the words of Axl lol), the big companies cashing in and not paying enough to the artist are only two reasons.

So yeah, I LOVE to hear something new from GN'R, I don't mind the format, an album or a fucking ep or a even demo sessions streaming on fucking Bandcamp - but you gotta look at the big picture here.

How many albums have gone diamond certification in the US in the last decade?
Adele sold 11,800,000 in 2011 and 9,300,000 in 2015.
Garth Brooks sold 5,000,000 in 2007, and it was a Ultimate Hits album!
Beyonc?, Lemonade has sold 2.5 million - physical copies and digital downloads!

So I'm sorry, but the fact that you've seen a packed store means shit.

[/rent]
Jim out


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: GNR2014 on July 23, 2017, 08:55:46 AM
So tired of Jim's fan myth that bands don't need to release albums anymore.
Only on GNR  forums do I read Bizarro world stuff like this.  ::)


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: GNR2014 on July 23, 2017, 09:16:03 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2017_albums
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2016_albums
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2015_albums
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2014_albums
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2013_albums
 ???


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: izzyjim on July 23, 2017, 09:23:27 AM
You're cute, but that's not what I said.
My point was that we're not in the same world where it's obvious for a band to put out an album.
Look at the circumstances that's all I'm saying.

Not once I said that they SHOULDN'T nor WOULDN'T do it.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: SonofAGun on July 24, 2017, 12:28:47 PM
Will always be grateful for seeing them in 88 on AFD tour. Have seen them many times since, but they were magical opening up for Aerosmith.  :)


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: dmathski on July 24, 2017, 12:51:06 PM
Will always be grateful for seeing them in 88 on AFD tour. Have seen them many times since, but they were magical opening up for Aerosmith.  :)


Huge regret in my life was not seeing them on that tour. Had tickets and my buddy and I were driving up from San Diego to Costa Mesa to the show and my car broke down on the 5 freeway... :(


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: pilferk on July 24, 2017, 12:56:03 PM
Will always be grateful for seeing them in 88 on AFD tour. Have seen them many times since, but they were magical opening up for Aerosmith.  :)

My first time seeing them was opening for Aerosmith, too. Orange County Fairgrounds in New York in August of '88.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: SonofAGun on July 24, 2017, 12:59:00 PM
This was it man. That day.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JffDPevLJY


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: LunsJail on July 24, 2017, 03:58:49 PM
I don't see the big whoop over a 30 year anniversary.  Is that more important than a 20 or 25 year anniversary? Are they supposed to have some hoopla or a reissue every 5 years?  Did they acknowledge the anniversary at 25 years?


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: allwaystired on July 24, 2017, 04:30:13 PM
I don't see the big whoop over a 30 year anniversary.  Is that more important than a 20 or 25 year anniversary? Are they supposed to have some hoopla or a reissue every 5 years?  Did they acknowledge the anniversary at 25 years?

Few reasons i guess:
30 is a big number
The band are in the middle of a tour
The tour fearures original members most  thought would never play together again
The band made it a big deal by putting up posters etc.

None of the other annivesaries had all those factors. Of course it all amounted to fuck all anyway, so it doesn't matter in the slightest really!


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: LunsJail on July 24, 2017, 09:10:42 PM
I don't see the big whoop over a 30 year anniversary.  Is that more important than a 20 or 25 year anniversary? Are they supposed to have some hoopla or a reissue every 5 years?  Did they acknowledge the anniversary at 25 years?

Few reasons i guess:
30 is a big number
The band are in the middle of a tour
The tour fearures original members most  thought would never play together again
The band made it a big deal by putting up posters etc.

None of the other annivesaries had all those factors. Of course it all amounted to fuck all anyway, so it doesn't matter in the slightest really!

All good points....


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: raindog on July 25, 2017, 01:29:45 AM
That 'give back' post made me puke in my mouth a little. Haha, yeah, tickets are free. Poor, poor Guns N' Roses.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: izzyjim on July 25, 2017, 01:42:09 AM
I don't see the big whoop over a 30 year anniversary.  Is that more important than a 20 or 25 year anniversary? Are they supposed to have some hoopla or a reissue every 5 years?  Did they acknowledge the anniversary at 25 years?

Few reasons i guess:
30 is a big number
The band are in the middle of a tour
The tour fearures original members most  thought would never play together again
The band made it a big deal by putting up posters etc.

None of the other annivesaries had all those factors. Of course it all amounted to fuck all anyway, so it doesn't matter in the slightest really!

You're still upset about the posters, eh?  :hihi:
I seriously wonder now what was their purpose..


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: kupirock on July 25, 2017, 04:03:21 AM
Are they supposed to have some hoopla or a reissue every 5 years?

How many reissues have GN'R released?  ;D


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: ITARocker on July 25, 2017, 04:28:19 AM
I don't see the big whoop over a 30 year anniversary.  Is that more important than a 20 or 25 year anniversary? Are they supposed to have some hoopla or a reissue every 5 years?  Did they acknowledge the anniversary at 25 years?

Few reasons i guess:
30 is a big number
The band are in the middle of a tour
The tour fearures original members most  thought would never play together again
The band made it a big deal by putting up posters etc.

None of the other annivesaries had all those factors. Of course it all amounted to fuck all anyway, so it doesn't matter in the slightest really!

You're still upset about the posters, eh?  :hihi:
I seriously wonder now what was their purpose..

Selling more copies of afd those days and miliking a little the cow again? ;D

Anyway, it's not about "giving back" a shit, it's about showing you can leave sometimes your fuckin comfort zone, but this is tipically Axl: once he has an ounce of true recognition here he comes with the "I don't care" attitude and then he starts  losing his voice, partying hard, puttin on weight etc etc. Even if he comes back with ac dc we won't see again the Axl Rose's beast mode again cause in his mind he doesn't have to prove anything again.
I mean he's right and he can do whatever he wants, it's his life, but you know you need really few surprises to make gnr fans happy, really few, look at the adler thing  :love:. The reunion thing is big still, but 1 year & half has gone already. Time flies, we don't have  an interview, we don't know what is going to happen, etc etc I mean we have nothing more than routine, same routine of the past mmm 20 years, again. And when u see things like these "30 years of afd" and nothing happens, "big announcement" and they simply add some new dates (and if somebody would ask axl about that he would go like "i didn't know anything about that")...well...u can't think fans (or better hardcore fans) could be really happy about that. It's nothing more than this. Plus we don't hear new music since when? 2008? Think about that before talking about "giving back".


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: allwaystired on July 25, 2017, 04:47:16 AM
I don't see the big whoop over a 30 year anniversary.  Is that more important than a 20 or 25 year anniversary? Are they supposed to have some hoopla or a reissue every 5 years?  Did they acknowledge the anniversary at 25 years?

Few reasons i guess:
30 is a big number
The band are in the middle of a tour
The tour fearures original members most  thought would never play together again
The band made it a big deal by putting up posters etc.

None of the other annivesaries had all those factors. Of course it all amounted to fuck all anyway, so it doesn't matter in the slightest really!

You're still upset about the posters, eh?  :hihi:
I seriously wonder now what was their purpose..

Haha! I've been thinking about them a lot- they still totally baffle me!


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Lord Stan on July 25, 2017, 11:08:57 AM
I don't see the big whoop over a 30 year anniversary.  Is that more important than a 20 or 25 year anniversary? Are they supposed to have some hoopla or a reissue every 5 years?  Did they acknowledge the anniversary at 25 years?

Few reasons i guess:
30 is a big number
The band are in the middle of a tour
The tour fearures original members most  thought would never play together again
The band made it a big deal by putting up posters etc.

None of the other annivesaries had all those factors. Of course it all amounted to fuck all anyway, so it doesn't matter in the slightest really!

You're still upset about the posters, eh?  :hihi:
I seriously wonder now what was their purpose..

Haha! I've been thinking about them a lot- they still totally baffle me!

They do baffle a lot. What was the point. Yes, sometimes you are drunk and don't think straight and make mistakes. But why did this happen >:(


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Ginger King on July 25, 2017, 01:42:25 PM
I don't see the big whoop over a 30 year anniversary.  Is that more important than a 20 or 25 year anniversary? Are they supposed to have some hoopla or a reissue every 5 years?  Did they acknowledge the anniversary at 25 years?

Few reasons i guess:
30 is a big number
The band are in the middle of a tour
The tour fearures original members most  thought would never play together again
The band made it a big deal by putting up posters etc.

None of the other annivesaries had all those factors. Of course it all amounted to fuck all anyway, so it doesn't matter in the slightest really!

You're still upset about the posters, eh?  :hihi:
I seriously wonder now what was their purpose..

Haha! I've been thinking about them a lot- they still totally baffle me!

They do baffle a lot. What was the point. Yes, sometimes you are drunk and don't think straight and make mistakes. But why did this happen >:(

It is baffling.  It can't be by coincidence that the Apollo show was booked on the eve of the 30th.  The show wasn't just to launch the North American tour...otherwise why couldn't it be today, or last weekend?  Clearly, it was meant to coincide with both the NITL tour and the AFD anniversary.  It's strange that everything was set up to revolve around that date...and then not a peep.  Whatever, I'm still going to see them in a couple weeks.  Somehow, I'll manage to have a good time.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: allwaystired on July 25, 2017, 02:14:37 PM
I don't see the big whoop over a 30 year anniversary.  Is that more important than a 20 or 25 year anniversary? Are they supposed to have some hoopla or a reissue every 5 years?  Did they acknowledge the anniversary at 25 years?

Few reasons i guess:
30 is a big number
The band are in the middle of a tour
The tour fearures original members most  thought would never play together again
The band made it a big deal by putting up posters etc.

None of the other annivesaries had all those factors. Of course it all amounted to fuck all anyway, so it doesn't matter in the slightest really!

You're still upset about the posters, eh?  :hihi:
I seriously wonder now what was their purpose..

Haha! I've been thinking about them a lot- they still totally baffle me!

They do baffle a lot. What was the point. Yes, sometimes you are drunk and don't think straight and make mistakes. But why did this happen >:(

It is baffling.  It can't be by coincidence that the Apollo show was booked on the eve of the 30th.  The show wasn't just to launch the North American tour...otherwise why couldn't it be today, or last weekend?  Clearly, it was meant to coincide with both the NITL tour and the AFD anniversary.  It's strange that everything was set up to revolve around that date...and then not a peep.  Whatever, I'm still going to see them in a couple weeks.  Somehow, I'll manage to have a good time.

That's a good point actually- the show COULD have been any day. It seems more than a coincidence it was that day, and the posters were all put up. Perhaps something was cancelled last minute?


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Lord Stan on July 26, 2017, 04:48:44 AM
I don't see the big whoop over a 30 year anniversary.  Is that more important than a 20 or 25 year anniversary? Are they supposed to have some hoopla or a reissue every 5 years?  Did they acknowledge the anniversary at 25 years?

Few reasons i guess:
30 is a big number
The band are in the middle of a tour
The tour fearures original members most  thought would never play together again
The band made it a big deal by putting up posters etc.

None of the other annivesaries had all those factors. Of course it all amounted to fuck all anyway, so it doesn't matter in the slightest really!

You're still upset about the posters, eh?  :hihi:
I seriously wonder now what was their purpose..

Haha! I've been thinking about them a lot- they still totally baffle me!

They do baffle a lot. What was the point. Yes, sometimes you are drunk and don't think straight and make mistakes. But why did this happen >:(

It is baffling.  It can't be by coincidence that the Apollo show was booked on the eve of the 30th.  The show wasn't just to launch the North American tour...otherwise why couldn't it be today, or last weekend?  Clearly, it was meant to coincide with both the NITL tour and the AFD anniversary.  It's strange that everything was set up to revolve around that date...and then not a peep.  Whatever, I'm still going to see them in a couple weeks.  Somehow, I'll manage to have a good time.

That's a good point actually- the show COULD have been any day. It seems more than a coincidence it was that day, and the posters were all put up. Perhaps something was cancelled last minute?

Some Sherlock could check what other events there were at the Apollo around the date. Theoretically, it could have been just this day it was possible but surely that was not the case. True, some win lottery as well but just too much of a coincidence.

But if it was something that got cancelled last minute, who screwed up with plan B or C or D. 


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: allwaystired on July 26, 2017, 05:03:05 AM
My (uneducated) guess is that that there were plans to play Appetite in full that night, hence the posters, which were then decided against for one reason or another (probably along the lines of not having rehearsed the correct songs, and not wanting to sound sloppy on a broadcast).

We'll probably never know!


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: faldor on July 26, 2017, 06:02:55 PM
I don't see the big whoop over a 30 year anniversary.  Is that more important than a 20 or 25 year anniversary? Are they supposed to have some hoopla or a reissue every 5 years?  Did they acknowledge the anniversary at 25 years?

Few reasons i guess:
30 is a big number
The band are in the middle of a tour
The tour fearures original members most  thought would never play together again
The band made it a big deal by putting up posters etc.

None of the other annivesaries had all those factors. Of course it all amounted to fuck all anyway, so it doesn't matter in the slightest really!

You're still upset about the posters, eh?  :hihi:
I seriously wonder now what was their purpose..

Haha! I've been thinking about them a lot- they still totally baffle me!

They do baffle a lot. What was the point. Yes, sometimes you are drunk and don't think straight and make mistakes. But why did this happen >:(

It is baffling.  It can't be by coincidence that the Apollo show was booked on the eve of the 30th.  The show wasn't just to launch the North American tour...otherwise why couldn't it be today, or last weekend?  Clearly, it was meant to coincide with both the NITL tour and the AFD anniversary.  It's strange that everything was set up to revolve around that date...and then not a peep.  Whatever, I'm still going to see them in a couple weeks.  Somehow, I'll manage to have a good time.

That's a good point actually- the show COULD have been any day. It seems more than a coincidence it was that day, and the posters were all put up. Perhaps something was cancelled last minute?

Some Sherlock could check what other events there were at the Apollo around the date. Theoretically, it could have been just this day it was possible but surely that was not the case. True, some win lottery as well but just too much of a coincidence.

But if it was something that got cancelled last minute, who screwed up with plan B or C or D. 
Take it one step further though. If they could choose ANY day, why not choose 7/21? Was the venue booked that night and not the 20th?


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Spirit on August 03, 2017, 06:45:15 PM
Appetite in at #84 on this week's Billboard 200.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: allwaystired on August 04, 2017, 07:48:32 AM
Appetite in at #84 on this week's Billboard 200.

I often wonder with things like this who the hell has bought it that doesn't already own it! Mind you i'm not sure how many albums you have to sell to get to 84!

I own three copies of it. Ridiculous.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: C0ma on August 04, 2017, 08:34:25 AM
Appetite in at #84 on this week's Billboard 200.

I often wonder with things like this who the hell has bought it that doesn't already own it! Mind you i'm not sure how many albums you have to sell to get to 84!

I own three copies of it. Ridiculous.

You probably have people who last owned it on cassette in the 80's that just never bought it again when they started updating to cd's or other digital formats. Then they heard them on Sirius (either the concert, or just the station in general) and ran out to buy it.

I have it on Cassette, CD (which was trashed in the late 90's/00's from being in my car cd organizer), 24k Gold "Remaster" CD, Vinyl, digital download, etc... I could decide to buy it again at any minute to replace my standard CD that got scratched to hell.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: D-GenerationX on August 04, 2017, 10:46:04 AM
Was rather hoping that since the boys made nice again, we might get some remastered copies of the old albums.  We could really use it.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Lord Stan on August 04, 2017, 11:41:30 AM
Appetite in at #84 on this week's Billboard 200.

I often wonder with things like this who the hell has bought it that doesn't already own it! Mind you i'm not sure how many albums you have to sell to get to 84!

I own three copies of it. Ridiculous.

I don't own any physical copy at the moment ;D

I've been planning to buy a vinyl for decoration. There are various reasons and needs why you buy something all over again. My girlfriend's birthday is next month and our anniversary later this month. How about buying her one for each as she has never owned any or couldn't care less about the band.

Just believe me, things happen and people buy stuff whether they need it or not 8)


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: allwaystired on August 04, 2017, 11:42:55 AM
Was rather hoping that since the boys made nice again, we might get some remastered copies of the old albums.  We could really use it.

Where you been? I was moaning myself purple about this a week or so ago! I'm a sucker for reissues mind- I buy absolutely any old tat if I like a band, let alone GNR.



Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: allwaystired on August 04, 2017, 11:45:40 AM
Appetite in at #84 on this week's Billboard 200.

I often wonder with things like this who the hell has bought it that doesn't already own it! Mind you i'm not sure how many albums you have to sell to get to 84!

I own three copies of it. Ridiculous.

I don't own any physical copy at the moment ;D

I've been planning to buy a vinyl for decoration. There are various reasons and needs why you buy something all over again. My girlfriend's birthday is next month and our anniversary later this month. How about buying her one for each as she has never owned any or couldn't care less about the band.

Just believe me, things happen and people buy stuff whether they need it or not 8)

Get that sorted. CD copies come pretty cheap these days!


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Lord Stan on August 04, 2017, 12:11:04 PM
Appetite in at #84 on this week's Billboard 200.

I often wonder with things like this who the hell has bought it that doesn't already own it! Mind you i'm not sure how many albums you have to sell to get to 84!

I own three copies of it. Ridiculous.

I don't own any physical copy at the moment ;D

I've been planning to buy a vinyl for decoration. There are various reasons and needs why you buy something all over again. My girlfriend's birthday is next month and our anniversary later this month. How about buying her one for each as she has never owned any or couldn't care less about the band.

Just believe me, things happen and people buy stuff whether they need it or not 8)

Get that sorted. CD copies come pretty cheap these days!

And vinyls are bloody expensive but they look cool :rant:


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: allwaystired on August 04, 2017, 12:56:38 PM
Appetite in at #84 on this week's Billboard 200.

I often wonder with things like this who the hell has bought it that doesn't already own it! Mind you i'm not sure how many albums you have to sell to get to 84!

I own three copies of it. Ridiculous.

I don't own any physical copy at the moment ;D

I've been planning to buy a vinyl for decoration. There are various reasons and needs why you buy something all over again. My girlfriend's birthday is next month and our anniversary later this month. How about buying her one for each as she has never owned any or couldn't care less about the band.

Just believe me, things happen and people buy stuff whether they need it or not 8)

Get that sorted. CD copies come pretty cheap these days!

And vinyls are bloody expensive but they look cool :rant:

Have a look around secondhand shops. Usually a vinyl copy floating about there. If you only want it for display too, it doesn't matter if it's worn out.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Lord Stan on August 04, 2017, 03:20:30 PM
Appetite in at #84 on this week's Billboard 200.

I often wonder with things like this who the hell has bought it that doesn't already own it! Mind you i'm not sure how many albums you have to sell to get to 84!

I own three copies of it. Ridiculous.

I don't own any physical copy at the moment ;D

I've been planning to buy a vinyl for decoration. There are various reasons and needs why you buy something all over again. My girlfriend's birthday is next month and our anniversary later this month. How about buying her one for each as she has never owned any or couldn't care less about the band.

Just believe me, things happen and people buy stuff whether they need it or not 8)

Get that sorted. CD copies come pretty cheap these days!

And vinyls are bloody expensive but they look cool :rant:

Have a look around secondhand shops. Usually a vinyl copy floating about there. If you only want it for display too, it doesn't matter if it's worn out.

Only for display, I wouldn't even know how to use that machine what fits with it ::)


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: sofine11 on August 04, 2017, 03:40:03 PM
Was rather hoping that since the boys made nice again, we might get some remastered copies of the old albums.  We could really use it.

My opinion? If this tour happened 10 or hell, 5 years ago we may very well have seen some re-issues.  But now in the year of our Lord, 2017, maybe the number of copies they'd sell just doesn't make it worth their efforts...I kinda think that's why we haven't heard the followup to Chinese Democracy as well, but that's a whole other ball of hair.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Wooody on August 04, 2017, 06:17:12 PM
Was rather hoping that since the boys made nice again, we might get some remastered copies of the old albums.  We could really use it.

My opinion? If this tour happened 10 or hell, 5 years ago we may very well have seen some re-issues.  But now in the year of our Lord, 2017, maybe the number of copies they'd sell just doesn't make it worth their efforts...I kinda think that's why we haven't heard the followup to Chinese Democracy as well, but that's a whole other ball of hair.

They should just have the album on their website and charge for it.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Lord Stan on August 04, 2017, 06:27:49 PM
Was rather hoping that since the boys made nice again, we might get some remastered copies of the old albums.  We could really use it.

My opinion? If this tour happened 10 or hell, 5 years ago we may very well have seen some re-issues.  But now in the year of our Lord, 2017, maybe the number of copies they'd sell just doesn't make it worth their efforts...I kinda think that's why we haven't heard the followup to Chinese Democracy as well, but that's a whole other ball of hair.

They should just have the album on their website and charge for it.

They don't really have a very good website by any standards.


Title: Re: AfD 30th Anniversary
Post by: Johnnyblood on August 06, 2017, 08:50:07 AM
Appetite in at #84 on this week's Billboard 200.

I often wonder with things like this who the hell has bought it that doesn't already own it! Mind you i'm not sure how many albums you have to sell to get to 84!

I own three copies of it. Ridiculous.

There were 3-4 million new humans born last year in the US alone. Compound that back to 1987 and you realize lots of customers added to the marketplace all the time. Many have the good taste to get a copy of AFD.  :beer: