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Title: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: allwaystired on June 02, 2018, 08:12:20 AM
Thought I'd get the ball rolling for the next leg of the tour.....

Pics of the merch stand, with prices, would be appreciated!


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: alcapone_dudu on June 02, 2018, 09:19:20 AM
It's always a thrill for me whenever Guns starts (or restart) a tour.

This is a historical venue for GN'R and the concert should be great! Waiting for some videos and pics.


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: Lord Stan on June 02, 2018, 09:21:48 AM
Greetings from here, just arrived and found the hotel.

Obviously, a very big city but already one t-shirt seen. A young girl, who must've been in kindergarten when CD was released, with her boyfriend and another guy. Also a small number of very small ads here and there.

It doesn't mean that a very large crowd wouldn't be interested in this :peace: :beer:


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: gnr-4-ever on June 02, 2018, 02:02:42 PM
So they just played “Slither” at soundcheck... would be a cool addition to the setlist if they decide to play it tomorrow. :)

Around 24 hours to go, cannot wait!!


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: JAEBALL on June 02, 2018, 02:38:08 PM
So they just played “Slither” at soundcheck... would be a cool addition to the setlist if they decide to play it tomorrow. :)

Around 24 hours to go, cannot wait!!



Whoaaaaaaaa just saw that clip ..... so excited to see/hear this......


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: gcluskey on June 02, 2018, 02:49:31 PM
So they just played “Slither” at soundcheck... would be a cool addition to the setlist if they decide to play it tomorrow. :)

Around 24 hours to go, cannot wait!!

I knew Slither would slither into the set list, fair play Axl. This will be awesome!!!


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: sakuL on June 02, 2018, 02:49:55 PM
So they just played “Slither” at soundcheck... would be a cool addition to the setlist if they decide to play it tomorrow. :)

Around 24 hours to go, cannot wait!!



Whoaaaaaaaa just saw that clip ..... so excited to see/hear this......

link pls!


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: Lord Stan on June 02, 2018, 02:52:47 PM
I haven't seen any clips but this is a true story.

Generally, I like walking but got a little bored with it after all and there was a bicycle taxi. A man little younger than Axl but probably not much.

We got talking and you just can't fake that face.

"Is Axl still singing?"


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: gnr-4-ever on June 02, 2018, 03:28:21 PM
So they just played “Slither” at soundcheck... would be a cool addition to the setlist if they decide to play it tomorrow. :)

Around 24 hours to go, cannot wait!!



Whoaaaaaaaa just saw that clip ..... so excited to see/hear this......

link pls!

https://instagram.com/p/BjiAHc2A01E/


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: FreddieJames on June 02, 2018, 04:28:18 PM
Joooooooooaaaaaahhhh, I am so excited about this! I always wondered what this one would sound like with Axl.... :drool: :drool: :drool:

YT link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jtvwUULJV4


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: Lord Stan on June 02, 2018, 05:05:14 PM
Are we going to hear Looney Tunes or some weird guy announcing the band :beer:


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: rebelhipi on June 02, 2018, 08:55:08 PM
Slither! Wowza!

Do you know what are the show times.
When does the opnening acts start?
And what about GNR?
Didnt find it on the fb event page


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: PermissionToLand on June 03, 2018, 12:11:37 AM
Wow, even more amazing that Axl is singing it. I figured it would go to Duff even though, no offense, but I don't think he could pull it off. I always figured Axl resented VR because Slash was having such success with them when he was mostly off the radar at the time. To me, the thought of Axl singing a VR tune is almost harder to imagine than reuniting with Slash in the first place! But then, lots of old wounds have healed. What's next, Fall To Pieces, Take It Away and Crucify The Dead?! :hihi:

Anyway, this will be really cool!


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: izzyjim on June 03, 2018, 02:17:08 AM
Are we going to hear Looney Tunes or some weird guy announcing the band :beer:

Hey hey that "weird" guy is a legendary GN'R crew member since the '80!
McBob is Duff's tech guy
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CojXaSfXEAAoL8L.jpg)


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: Lord Stan on June 03, 2018, 02:43:06 AM
Haha, I know but to tell the truth I wouldn't have recognised him on the street of dreams.

I'm something like 5 or 6 kilometers from the stadium and the weather seems to be clearing up a little. Hard to say but at least it's warm enough in any case :beer:


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: izzyjim on June 03, 2018, 04:43:54 AM
Exciting times  :peace:


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: Lord Stan on June 03, 2018, 05:27:09 AM
I'm a non-believer but this feels like a somewhat sacred moment to put the shirt on and start strolling towards the stadium.

Those clouds aren't clearing and apparently risk of rain. But I just wouldn't mind June Rain :peace:


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: jarmo on June 03, 2018, 06:55:40 AM
Here at the venue for the first show of the tour.

Might get some rain....



/jarmo


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: siraddam on June 03, 2018, 07:03:36 AM
I  always thought that Slither would have been a great Guns song. I remember reading that Axl said that Slash bought a song to him once that later turned into Fall to Pieces.


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: Lord Stan on June 03, 2018, 07:05:41 AM
Here at the venue for the first show of the tour.

Might get some rain....



/jarmo


McBob there yet :peace:


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: gnr-4-ever on June 03, 2018, 07:58:33 AM
Made it to the venue... getting crowded. :)


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: rebelhipi on June 03, 2018, 08:12:59 AM
Gonna head down there soon :)


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: Lord Stan on June 03, 2018, 08:16:29 AM
Here's some all family cycling event going on and music.

A guy just cycled past playing SCOM. Maybe a coincidence :beer:


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: GypsySoul on June 03, 2018, 10:25:29 AM
Is Slither the one where Duff yells HEY! throughout the song for no apparent reason?  (If Axl does decide to sing this song, I hope somebody warns him about that.)

I understand how discussing the (potential) setlist is part of the enjoyment of the fan experience.  I personally don't care what Axl does or doesn't decide to sing along to at any given show.  Whatever makes him happy to do is fine with me.  That being said, the GNR instagram posted a clip from soundcheck without sound. (I'm pretty sure it just wasn't a glitch in my computer)  I'm guessing that something will get played during this tour that I am not familiar with (the possibilities are endless considering my limited knowledge of songs.)  I'm depending on any one and/or all of you to fill in & post the setlist & stuff.  Thanks in advance!


Guns N' Roses @gunsnroses
🇩🇪 BERLIN 🇩🇪 #GnFnR #NotInThisLifetime Tour 2018

(http://gypsysoul.webspaceforme.net/Berlin603.png)
(the "play" button is there because the flag flutters & planes or something are flying in the background)


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: D on June 03, 2018, 11:03:06 AM
What time is this USA time?


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: Michael on June 03, 2018, 11:18:49 AM
What time is this USA time?

The show should start in about 2 hrs from now!


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: gnr-4-ever on June 03, 2018, 11:23:56 AM
Opening act 1 sounds horrible. Makes the wait for GN’R that much longer. :(


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: GypsySoul on June 03, 2018, 11:51:32 AM
Slash's friend Meegan posted this pic:

(https://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/bcf89481d010d2eb42379d2e54aa5770/5BC1EE2E/t51.2885-15/s640x640/sh0.08/e35/33186275_262531901154991_3315540037537366016_n.jpg)


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: allwaystired on June 03, 2018, 12:15:50 PM
Anyone got any pics of the merch stand?


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: allwaystired on June 03, 2018, 12:17:25 PM
Opening act 1 sounds horrible. Makes the wait for GN’R that much longer. :(

Greta Van Fleet? Don't get them at all- just like a poot led zep clone. Even wear the same clothes.



Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: Lord Stan on June 03, 2018, 12:23:13 PM
Upstairs in empty stands looking at this.

There are a number of people confused how do you get on the floor. But I wouldn't be too worried because nothing lasts forever.


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: GypsySoul on June 03, 2018, 12:24:04 PM
Anyone got any pics of the merch stand?

Don't know who to credit for this pic.
It appears that the bear with the GNR flag is the show's 'official' design (you can see it on a tee in this pic)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dex3yZEXUAY8OvP.jpg:small)


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: allwaystired on June 03, 2018, 12:34:29 PM
Thanks Gypsy! Always like seeing what stuff is on offer! I'm a sucker for merch!


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: gcluskey on June 03, 2018, 12:54:14 PM
So is Periscope our best option for catching clips of the show. Really can’t wait to hear Axl singing Shadow of your Love and Slither.  Breakdown and Don’t Damn Me would be welcome additions for me but probably getting way ahead of myself hoping for those


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: Michael on June 03, 2018, 01:04:01 PM
More pics of merch...

https://twitter.com/JimeArce/status/1003319101257904128


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: GypsySoul on June 03, 2018, 01:07:29 PM
Show didn't start yet but this guy is streaming on facebook now

https://www.facebook.com/giuseppe.panunzio.18/videos/10214675287548216/



Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: Lord Stan on June 03, 2018, 01:12:41 PM
My battery will die but they have 1 liter mugs for 9 euros. That is not too bad a deal.

Good fuckin' night :beer:


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: allwaystired on June 03, 2018, 01:13:26 PM
My battery will die but they have 1 liter mugs for 9 euros. That is not too bad a deal.

Good fuckin' night :beer:

Have a good one! Enjoy!


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: GypsySoul on June 03, 2018, 01:20:52 PM
TANK FIRING!!!!

It's So Easy
(A lot of distortion with the FB audio feed) Mr. Brownstone
Chinese Democracy
Welcome To The Jungle
Double Talkin' Jive
(not sure if I missed something)
Better


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: GypsySoul on June 03, 2018, 01:38:16 PM
I believe this guy is still attempting to stream but I'm not able to pick it up:
https://www.facebook.com/dennis.kyhnrasmussen/videos/10214484838929218/


https://www.facebook.com/niclas.bautsch/videos/1513118572133271/

https://www.facebook.com/joey.greiner/videos/10102926142798360/

https://www.facebook.com/marc.awiszus/videos/1702997253113126/
(unfortunate duet)


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: Nytunz on June 03, 2018, 02:05:06 PM
Will anyone update the setlist?


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: Michael on June 03, 2018, 02:19:28 PM
I guess You Could be mine is on now - no livestream yet...

Setlist so far:

Intro -
It's So Easy
Mr. Brownstone
Chinese Democracy
Welcome To The Jungle
Double Talkin' Jive
Better
Estranged
Live and Let Die
Rocket Queen
You Could Be Mine


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: Michael on June 03, 2018, 02:20:55 PM
This I Love...

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1OdJrZDyOzkJX?q=guns+n+roses


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: GypsySoul on June 03, 2018, 02:25:02 PM
https://www.facebook.com/cristi.stefan.3517/videos/2045899155622979/



Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: ice road trucker on June 03, 2018, 02:34:36 PM
slither


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: D on June 03, 2018, 02:36:00 PM
For real?


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: ice road trucker on June 03, 2018, 02:36:17 PM
yep

here

https://www.facebook.com/cristi.stefan.3517/videos/2045899155622979/


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: D on June 03, 2018, 02:40:40 PM
How was it


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: Michael on June 03, 2018, 02:41:00 PM
That was a nice surprice, I just hope they will play it in Denmark too...

Now (my guess):

Band Intros
Slash's solo/Godfather Theme
Sweet Child O' Mine

Setlist so far:

Intro -
It's So Easy
Mr. Brownstone
Chinese Democracy
Welcome To The Jungle
Double Talkin' Jive
Better
Estranged
Live and Let Die
Rocket Queen
You Could Be Mine
Duff's solo - Attitude
This I Love
Civil War
Slither (Velvet Revolver)
Band Intros
Slash's solo/Godfather Theme
Sweet Child O' Mine


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: ice road trucker on June 03, 2018, 02:41:25 PM
dunno sound is not the greatest on the feed


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: Michael on June 03, 2018, 02:42:34 PM
How was it

Axl has some problems with his voice apparantly...a youtube video with better quality must clarify that question i'm afraid...


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: fangbutt on June 03, 2018, 02:42:56 PM
mygnr had a god damn meltdown haha


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: D on June 03, 2018, 02:45:14 PM
mygnr had a god damn meltdown haha

Hahaha in what way good or bad


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: GypsySoul on June 03, 2018, 02:52:18 PM
https://www.facebook.com/smartgo.cz/videos/2081459728777477/



Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: Iuggiboy on June 03, 2018, 03:07:44 PM
SLITHER GOOD QUALITY

https://youtu.be/Yt1mhmR0dJY


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: GypsySoul on June 03, 2018, 03:12:46 PM
https://www.facebook.com/stefania.batt/videos/1950842934935612/



Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: GypsySoul on June 03, 2018, 03:26:59 PM
From Jarmo:

It’s So Easy, Mr. Brownstone, Chinese Democracy, Welcome To The Jungle, Double Talkin’ Jive, Better, Estranged, Live And Let Die, Rocket Queen, You Can't Put Your Arms Around A Memory/Attitude, This I Love, Civil War, Slither, Band Intros, Slash Solo (Godfather)/Sweet Child O' Mine, Wichita Lineman (Glen Campbell cover), Used To Love Her, Wish You Were Here/Layla/November Rain, Only Women Bleed (instrumental)/Knockin' On Heaven's Door, Nightrain


Encore: Jam (Waiting On A Friend)/Patience, Paradise City



Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: GypsySoul on June 03, 2018, 03:32:26 PM
https://www.facebook.com/LedinAnnelie/videos/10155823270477144/

https://www.facebook.com/stefania.batt/videos/1950866998266539/



Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: russkwtx on June 03, 2018, 03:37:32 PM
Wow, Axl does not sound good on Slither at all. Scott was 100% better.
That is just painful to listen to.


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: nick6sic6 on June 03, 2018, 03:40:14 PM
Wow, Axl does not sound good on Slither at all. Scott was 100% better.
That is just painful to listen to.

He'll get better at it ...  :beer:


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: sneeks on June 03, 2018, 03:40:38 PM
Delighted for Slash and Duff to finally have Slither in the setlist, wasn’t sure I’d ever see Axl singing any VR songs.

Axl appeared to be a little lost with the lyrics at times but for a first performance not bad at all. Slash’s solo sounded awesome as always.


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: draguns on June 03, 2018, 03:42:18 PM
mygnr had a god damn meltdown haha

Hahaha in what way good or bad

Some of the comments are just ridiculous and stupid!


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: GypsySoul on June 03, 2018, 03:48:37 PM
Wow, Axl does not sound good on Slither at all. Scott was 100% better.
That is just painful to listen to.
Seriously, are you bitching just to bitch?? 
Would you really rather not have Slash n' Duff ever perform the song live again?



Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: nick6sic6 on June 03, 2018, 03:49:49 PM
Paradise city already !? is it a pretty compact setlist compared to last summer ?!


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: C0ma on June 03, 2018, 03:50:40 PM
Delighted for Slash and Duff to finally have Slither in the setlist, wasn’t sure I’d ever see Axl singing any VR songs.

Axl appeared to be a little lost with the lyrics at times but for a first performance not bad at all. Slash’s solo sounded awesome as always.

He should try to sing it more like he does It's So Easy


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: GypsySoul on June 03, 2018, 03:52:27 PM
https://www.facebook.com/bucciz/videos/10215574582376179/



Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: Marion68 on June 03, 2018, 03:58:45 PM
Paradise city already !? is it a pretty compact setlist compared to last summer ?!


Are they finish???


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: GypsySoul on June 03, 2018, 04:12:56 PM
From Jarmo:

It’s So Easy, Mr. Brownstone, Chinese Democracy, Welcome To The Jungle, Double Talkin’ Jive, Better, Estranged, Live And Let Die, Rocket Queen, You Can't Put Your Arms Around A Memory/Attitude, This I Love, Civil War, Slither, Band Intros, Slash Solo (Godfather)/Sweet Child O' Mine, Wichita Lineman (Glen Campbell cover), Used To Love Her, Wish You Were Here/Layla/November Rain, Only Women Bleed (instrumental)/Knockin' On Heaven's Door, Nightrain


Encore: Jam (Waiting On A Friend)/Patience, Paradise City


THANKS TO ALL WHO PROVIDED TONIGHT'S LIVE-STREAMS!!!  :beer:




Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: axlnyc on June 03, 2018, 04:18:49 PM
Delighted for Slash and Duff to finally have Slither in the setlist, wasn’t sure I’d ever see Axl singing any VR songs.

Axl appeared to be a little lost with the lyrics at times but for a first performance not bad at all. Slash’s solo sounded awesome as always.

He should try to sing it more like he does It's So Easy

Yes, I was expected low pitch Axl , would be great


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: FreddieJames on June 03, 2018, 04:25:33 PM
From Jarmo:

It’s So Easy, Mr. Brownstone, Chinese Democracy, Welcome To The Jungle, Double Talkin’ Jive, Better, Estranged, Live And Let Die, Rocket Queen, You Can't Put Your Arms Around A Memory/Attitude, This I Love, Civil War, Slither, Band Intros, Slash Solo (Godfather)/Sweet Child O' Mine, Wichita Lineman (Glen Campbell cover), Used To Love Her, Wish You Were Here/Layla/November Rain, Only Women Bleed (instrumental)/Knockin' On Heaven's Door, Nightrain


Encore: Jam (Waiting On A Friend)/Patience, Paradise City


THANKS TO ALL WHO PROVIDED TONIGHT'S LIVE-STREAMS!!!  :beer:




No SOYL? That's odd....


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: GypsySoul on June 03, 2018, 04:43:58 PM
Guns N' Roses @gunsnroses
Danke Berlin!
Thanks for having us back, Germany...
#GnFnR #NotInThisLifetime Tour 2018


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dey055XX0AA7DGM.jpg:small)


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: Marion68 on June 03, 2018, 04:44:59 PM
Maybe next time...hopefully


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: Marion68 on June 03, 2018, 04:45:35 PM
I meant "SOYL"


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: izzyjim on June 03, 2018, 04:59:07 PM
I'm sure he did it on purpose, trolling Duff n' Slash  :hihi:


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: gcluskey on June 03, 2018, 05:00:33 PM
I like the way Axls singing Slither, think he messed the words up a little but still great. I wonder if they'll swap it around with SOYL. I think Slither is a great addition to the set. I like Witchita Lineman but would prefer another Guns song


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: FreddieJames on June 03, 2018, 05:04:16 PM
I like the way Axls singing Slither, think he messed the words up a little but still great. I wonder if they'll swap it around with SOYL. I think Slither is a great addition to the set. I like Witchita Lineman but would prefer another Guns song

I really get what he's trying to do with Slither, but it'll need a bit more working out. Bu I am happy they added it o the set and I'm sure it'll be a lot better over the course of the tour.


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: Bazfreak on June 03, 2018, 05:13:35 PM
I liked that too. Except for the after solo part, he went down when he should go up if you will...all in all it is a great and unimagible think that Axl allowed a VR song to be in the set. Props to that! I was hoping for SOYL but maybe later in the tour...they are heating up the engines!


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: gnr-4-ever on June 03, 2018, 05:14:05 PM
Recorded Slither for you guys - https://youtu.be/ktgLKGMbO04


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: allwaystired on June 03, 2018, 05:23:18 PM
No you cpuld be mine?!


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: estebanf on June 03, 2018, 05:32:14 PM
Wow, Axl does not sound good on Slither at all. Scott was 100% better.
That is just painful to listen to.

It's sad to admit it, but I thought the same.


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: russkwtx on June 03, 2018, 05:34:05 PM
Wow, Axl does not sound good on Slither at all. Scott was 100% better.
That is just painful to listen to.
Seriously, are you bitching just to bitch?? 
Would you really rather not have Slash n' Duff ever perform the song live again?



No, I am not bitching just to bitch. I am observing that the song sounds terrible.


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: russkwtx on June 03, 2018, 05:38:08 PM
And yes, Slash sounds great.


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: allwaystired on June 03, 2018, 05:55:52 PM
This show seems to be getting some hugely negative reactions from certain areas.....

What's the view from those that were actually there? Not really interested in taking my opinion from poor quality youtube videos....


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: Lord Stan on June 03, 2018, 06:09:10 PM
This show seems to be getting some hugely negative reactions from certain areas.....

What's the view from those that were actually there? Not really interested in taking my opinion from poor quality youtube videos....

I don't know, maybe a little disappointed that nothing spectacular happened.

But that aside everyone surely had a blast. Then having said that it looked like many empty seats.

It was just great, everyone were on the same team :beer:


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: Dr. Blutarsky on June 03, 2018, 06:45:27 PM
That is great that they finally played Sliver, nice addition.

I don't think it sounded as bad as some have made it out to be from the clips Ive seen. Perhaps it wasn't perfect but cut them some slack,  it was the 1st time it was played in front of an audience with the current incarnation.


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: rebelhipi on June 03, 2018, 06:50:47 PM
Just came back from the show.
It was an odd one. They skipped You Could Be Mine (when was the last time they didnt play that?), Coma, no Seeker, Black Hole Sun, no My Michelle or OTGM.
 Axl was having monitor problems i think. I could see him do long rants to the monitor guys between songs. This was around Rocket Queen.

Aftern November Rain he said that to his monitors it sounds like he is singing underwater like he would be  in finding nemo.

Nonetheless the show kicked ass. Only a superfan would notice the band was a little rusty. Slash didnt nail the rocket queen solo. The part in Better before the solo was not.perfect but they got through it well. Axl had issues in This I Love and some other songs.
Slither was a dream to witness being a big vr fan and never.had the chance of seeing them.
Before Slither Axl said that theyre gonna try something new even though he sucks tonight (i missed the rest of the speech cause of the cheering near me)

Also Axl said at one point that its good to be back in Berlin and the reason why they only have done a couple german shows lately is that the band has been cockbloked by some promoter for years and they have tried to come here for a long time.

I heard Slither, Wichita Lineman (ilove that song) and Used To Love Her for the first time tonight live. and i had great view from pit1 so no complaints. I just wanna share my thoughts on the show.
After Slither the band was on fire and it was business as usual. Allthough the encore was minimal. Only patience and paradise.

I was a great gig. And im happy tp see them in Tallinn again and hope to see them play Prostitute, Madagascar, TWAT along others.
Today was not the day for those songs. Great show nonetheless


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: rebelhipi on June 03, 2018, 07:00:11 PM
There was some empty seats  in the back. But it was still quite full.
Before heavens door i think Axl said that the crowd is filling up as the show progresses and that maybe the crowd were.thinkin that he is gonna be late.

The show started super early. 19.15 and ended at 21.40. So it was one of the shortest showd in quite some time.

With 70k capacity id say there was 50-60k people there. So alot of people for sure.


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: GypsySoul on June 03, 2018, 07:05:25 PM
Recorded Slither for you guys - https://youtu.be/ktgLKGMbO04
Thank you!!!  :beer:  Awesome recording!!!  : ok:
Hope you and everyone there had a great time!!!

I don't think it sounded as bad as some have made it out to be from the clips Ive seen. Perhaps it wasn't perfect but cut them some slack,  it was the 1st time it was played in front of an audience with the current incarnation.
The funny thing is, I think if Duff did the backup vocals in a more Axl-friendly key, it would have made a difference.  Or maybe he should have just let Melissa handle the backup vocals.  How do you think that would have gone over?  Hey Duff, could you keep quiet when we do Slither, you're messing up the song for the rest of us.  :hihi:
 


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: D on June 03, 2018, 09:20:15 PM
I see massive potential w Slither once Axl works all the bugs out  love how he takes it up octaves on the chorus, think once he settles into his it's so easy brownstone CD register on the verses it will really kick ass


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: cineater on June 03, 2018, 10:46:24 PM
Gypsy, did you see this?   https://instagram.com/p/Bjk3mexlq4_/?utm_source=ig_embed   :D



Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: GypsySoul on June 04, 2018, 12:33:32 AM
Gypsy, did you see this?   https://instagram.com/p/Bjk3mexlq4_/?utm_source=ig_embed   :D

Axl should not be encouraging such behavior  :no:
..... Or at the very least, he should say 'please'  :hihi:



Don't know who to credit for this pic but apparently Axl has a new piano bench.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/De0GDibXUAAmZLl.jpg:small)


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: Lord Stan on June 04, 2018, 01:38:04 AM
Yeah, what was with the starting time, did we know that. I had just queued a beer then suddenly it was so easy.


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: Sillything on June 04, 2018, 03:13:19 AM
There was some empty seats  in the back. But it was still quite full.
Before heavens door i think Axl said that the crowd is filling up as the show progresses and that maybe the crowd were.thinkin that he is gonna be late.

The show started super early. 19.15 and ended at 21.40. So it was one of the shortest showd in quite some time.

With 70k capacity id say there was 50-60k people there. So alot of people for sure.

Yeah Some upperbowl sections were empty at the start of the show but filled up nicely as the show progressed. Awesome show!


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: Sillything on June 04, 2018, 03:17:16 AM
So happy with the show! We ended up in Golden circle! I thougt I bought worse tickets so nice surprise. Greeta van Fleet are Magic! Dancing through their set! And Guns killed! Love Love Love! On to Tallin and Gothenburg! :peace:


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: allwaystired on June 04, 2018, 05:42:28 AM
By by rexkoning the following were skipped that were staples previously:
Ycbm
Out ta get me/my michelle
Coma
Seeker
Black hole sun
Yesterdays
Sorry

Slither was added

Have I missed any?



Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: gcluskey on June 04, 2018, 05:54:42 AM
I see massive potential w Slither once Axl works all the bugs out  love how he takes it up octaves on the chorus, think once he settles into his it's so easy brownstone CD register on the verses it will really kick ass

While I do think he could sing this in his Brownstone voice I’d love to hear it being sung with the old Axl rasp but nonetheless I love that he’s putting his own spin to it and I like what he’s doing on the chorus with Duff. Great addition to the setlist.


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: Maxi Fisher on June 04, 2018, 07:42:34 AM
Hard to find decent audio but this one is a little better. I like what Axl is doing with it. Never a big VR fan but slither was the most GnR song I heard from them. Solo rips : ok:

https://youtu.be/GsbxZk6Bd30


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: cineater on June 04, 2018, 08:20:11 AM
Gypsy, did you see this?   https://instagram.com/p/Bjk3mexlq4_/?utm_source=ig_embed   :D

Axl should not be encouraging such behavior  :no:
..... Or at the very least, he should say 'please'  :hihi:



Don't know who to credit for this pic but apparently Axl has a new piano bench.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/De0GDibXUAAmZLl.jpg:small)


I want to say he had that at Sturgis but maybe not.  Cool as fuck when they revved the piano up before Axl played.

I don't think Axl wants anything to do with that.  If Slash is going to take a seat on the stage, Axl's going to be behind it.  :D  All the women in the audience are going to be on their tiptoes making sure there have been no more wardrobe malfunctions, just checking.   8)



Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: rebelhipi on June 04, 2018, 08:27:40 AM
By by rexkoning the following were skipped that were staples previously:
Ycbm
Out ta get me/my michelle
Coma
Seeker
Black hole sun
Yesterdays
Sorry

Slither was added

Have I missed any?


Well on the last leg Madagascar, Prostitute were regulars.
Also Dont Cry was played at almost every show with Patience on the last legs.


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: bjd2944 on June 04, 2018, 10:02:25 AM
Shame on them for trying something different  :hihi:

Slither didn't sound great, but christ... I'd rather hear it than not. It took Axl a few shows to start sounding better on "Black Hole Sun." Once he got in the groove on that one it started sounding better.

Hope they don't just abandon Slither because of a few crybabies or spotty vocals. Work out the kinks and try it again. It was interesting to hear


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: GnR-NOW on June 04, 2018, 10:05:41 AM
I hope they stick with Slither too, and maybe add some new originals lol


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: McGann on June 04, 2018, 10:35:22 AM
To each their own, but
I really dig that "Slither".
I like the vocal.

It seems like Axl
Switches keys from doing lead
Into harmony

And lets Duff lead it
In the later choruses....
But I'm a layman

I get paid to sing
Sometimes, but I never learned
Any theory!!!

Splash

/Mike


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: bolton on June 04, 2018, 10:46:23 AM
What did they say in reviews about attendance?


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: Wooody on June 04, 2018, 11:38:07 AM
Vocals were not strong, possibly because of sound issues. He should've sung it with his ACDC vocals.



Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: allwaystired on June 04, 2018, 01:19:16 PM
What did they say in reviews about attendance?

This one doesn't mention it - has some pics though, but it makes for grim reading........

https://www.bild.de/unterhaltung/musik/guns-n-roses/versemmeln-tourauftakt-in-berlin-55896568.bild.html

Can't say I'm especially happy about the way this show has been received. Hoping it's a blip, like RIR was. 


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: D-GenerationX on June 04, 2018, 01:39:08 PM
First shows are usually dodgy with this band.  Even going way back.

The only cut that surprised me was 'You Could Be Mine'.

And 'Wichita Lineman'... I don't know, man.  It feels like that is some inside joke we are all on the outside of.  Crowd DIED when they did it at my show.


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: rebelhipi on June 04, 2018, 02:31:45 PM
What comes to Slither.

Was it the most amazing vocal performance by Axl ever?
No.

Was it still pretty good?
Absolutely.

What matters more to me its that they gave Scott Weiland some tribute and showcased Duffs and Slashs non gnr career, and its a great goddamn song.

It has happened before. Remember In Rock In Rio 1991. Axl struggled on Dead Horse and YCBM. That didint mean that he woulndt nail it 99% of the time in the future.

The band were pretty kickass on it.

And remember, Before Slither Axl said that he sucks tonight.



Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: Pedrolg on June 04, 2018, 02:42:10 PM
Come on guys. This was not standard rust from time off. Axl was seriously struggling out there, even with things that have been firmly into his comfort zone in the past 7 years.  Listen to last night's Nightrain, the guy is struggling through a whole different kind of issue. It is rough.

Kudos to him for finishing the set, and for trying Slither, but he doesn’t seem to be in condition to keep performing. He should take a break and take care of himself. It’s his health, his instrument and his future as a performer on the line hete.


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: allwaystired on June 04, 2018, 02:45:37 PM
What comes to Slither.

Was it the most amazing vocal performance by Axl ever?
No.

Was it still pretty good?
Absolutely.

What matters more to me its that they gave Scott Weiland some tribute and showcased Duffs and Slashs non gnr career, and its a great goddamn song.

It has happened before. Remember In Rock In Rio 1991. Axl struggled on Dead Horse and YCBM. That didint mean that he woulndt nail it 99% of the time in the future.

The band were pretty kickass on it.

And remember, Before Slither Axl said that he sucks tonight.



I didn't know he said that.....

Did he look ill do you think?


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: rebelhipi on June 04, 2018, 02:57:02 PM
What comes to Slither.

Was it the most amazing vocal performance by Axl ever?
No.

Was it still pretty good?
Absolutely.

What matters more to me its that they gave Scott Weiland some tribute and showcased Duffs and Slashs non gnr career, and its a great goddamn song.

It has happened before. Remember In Rock In Rio 1991. Axl struggled on Dead Horse and YCBM. That didint mean that he woulndt nail it 99% of the time in the future.

The band were pretty kickass on it.

And remember, Before Slither Axl said that he sucks tonight.



I didn't know he said that.....

Did he look ill do you think?
He looked healthy, but i saw him doing long rants to the crew during and between songs. Moost probably monitor issues that didnt get fixed.
After November Rain he said to the audience that to his monitors it sounds like he is singing underwater.

Dizzy even started playing the intro to Black Hole Sun, before stopping and Heavens Door was next.

Before Attitude the band was ready to play something else, (duff had his black bass he uses in Better ready, before Axl said something to the band and they all got new guitars to play Attitude)



Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: estebanf on June 04, 2018, 04:00:00 PM
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Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: rebelhipi on June 04, 2018, 05:29:11 PM
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Great quality! Many thanks!


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: D on June 04, 2018, 08:10:05 PM
To each their own, but
I really dig that "Slither".
I like the vocal.

It seems like Axl
Switches keys from doing lead
Into harmony

And lets Duff lead it
In the later choruses....
But I'm a layman

I get paid to sing
Sometimes, but I never learned
Any theory!!!

Splash

/Mike


It def improved by 2nd verse. I think the big issue I heard, Duff was singing it like the record. Axl was putting his own spin and for my ears it clashed a bit key wise




Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: fernomenoyde on June 04, 2018, 09:07:09 PM
Hope you like it!!!

Guns N' Roses | SLITHER first time ever played with Axl Rose on vocals!!! (Multicam-Remastered Audio) Germany 2018
Audio: Remastered by Fernomenoyde
ALL THE CREDITS TO THE ORIGINAL RECORDERS:
Dean Johannes Reynolds, Anne Frederiksen
Filip Tomić, Silber7.
Multicam edit by Fernomenoyde

https://youtu.be/Qi2U_L3yyJg


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: Johnnyblood on June 04, 2018, 10:07:02 PM
Gypsy, did you see this?   https://instagram.com/p/Bjk3mexlq4_/?utm_source=ig_embed   :D

Axl should not be encouraging such behavior  :no:
..... Or at the very least, he should say 'please'  :hihi:



Don't know who to credit for this pic but apparently Axl has a new piano bench.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/De0GDibXUAAmZLl.jpg:small)


Oh wow, flashback to the 92 MTV awards, Axl and Elton!


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: PermissionToLand on June 04, 2018, 10:12:33 PM
Hope you like it!!!

Guns N' Roses | SLITHER first time ever played with Axl Rose on vocals!!! (Multicam-Remastered Audio) Germany 2018
Audio: Remastered by Fernomenoyde
ALL THE CREDITS TO THE ORIGINAL RECORDERS:
Dean Johannes Reynolds, Anne Frederiksen
Filip Tomić, Silber7.
Multicam edit by Fernomenoyde

https://youtu.be/Qi2U_L3yyJg

Just noticed at 4:41 Axl says "That was embarrassing"!


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: axlroses on June 04, 2018, 10:50:20 PM
Does he say that was embarrassing or that was interesting?


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: C0ma on June 04, 2018, 11:26:47 PM
Does he say that was embarrassing or that was interesting?


Sounds like "That was interesting"


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: PermissionToLand on June 04, 2018, 11:38:31 PM
Listening back, I can hear either one if I'm listening for it. Not really sure which it is now...


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: axlroses on June 04, 2018, 11:46:43 PM
He seems in good spirits.  I lean towards that was interesting.


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: 123191 on June 05, 2018, 12:47:10 AM
Listening back, I can hear either one if I'm listening for it. Not really sure which it is now...

He definitely says "interesting."


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: PermissionToLand on June 05, 2018, 01:58:35 AM
Listening back, I can hear either one if I'm listening for it. Not really sure which it is now...

He definitely says "interesting."

Oh? Did you ask him yourself?


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: Lord Stan on June 05, 2018, 04:23:36 AM
It's most definitely embarrassing but in good spirits :peace:


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: jarmo on June 05, 2018, 08:35:58 AM
Berlin, Germany @ Olympiastadion: https://flic.kr/s/aHskCpKoiY



/jarmo



Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: allwaystired on June 05, 2018, 08:45:59 AM
Berlin, Germany @ Olympiastadion: https://flic.kr/s/aHskCpKoiY



/jarmo



As ever, some great shots from you - especially the one of Slash sitting down.


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: jarmo on June 05, 2018, 09:23:05 AM
Thanks! :)


/jarmo


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: fernomenoyde on June 05, 2018, 09:36:57 AM
Berlin, Germany @ Olympiastadion: https://flic.kr/s/aHskCpKoiY



/jarmo



WOW nice pics Jarmo!


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: fangbutt on June 05, 2018, 10:28:19 AM
Listening back, I can hear either one if I'm listening for it. Not really sure which it is now...

He definitely says "interesting."

Oh? Did you ask him yourself?
It's clearly interesting. It's not difficult to make it out.


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: Lord Stan on June 05, 2018, 11:29:55 AM
Berlin, Germany @ Olympiastadion: https://flic.kr/s/aHskCpKoiY



/jarmo



As ever, some great shots from you - especially the one of Slash sitting down.


I prefer Melissa : ok:


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: estebanf on June 05, 2018, 01:42:20 PM
Berlin, Germany @ Olympiastadion: https://flic.kr/s/aHskCpKoiY



/jarmo



Great pics, Jarmo. I really think Robert John, Tony Trujillo and you are the top-3 PH's in GNR's history :)


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: encoded on June 05, 2018, 02:49:07 PM
what happened at NR?


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: jarmo on June 05, 2018, 03:10:06 PM
Berlin, Germany @ Olympiastadion: https://flic.kr/s/aHskCpKoiY



/jarmo



Great pics, Jarmo. I really think Robert John, Tony Trujillo and you are the top-3 PH's in GNR's history :)


That's very nice of you.
Thank you.  :)



/jarmo




Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: draguns on June 05, 2018, 10:43:55 PM
Jarmo- great pics dude! Hope you are doing well and will be enjoying the tour!


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: rebelhipi on June 06, 2018, 02:42:16 AM
Gotta say that your flickr account has been in heavy use for 8 years now.

Your pics have always been top quality


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: rebelhipi on June 06, 2018, 03:01:12 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BjrD4Vxl9d_/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=peg124q3lfwk

Heres a couple pics i took.

Not nearly as good as Jarmo's, but still you might like em.


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: jarmo on June 06, 2018, 04:18:17 AM
Jarmo- great pics dude! Hope you are doing well and will be enjoying the tour!

Gotta say that your flickr account has been in heavy use for 8 years now.

Your pics have always been top quality


Thanks!



/jarmo



Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: Lord Stan on June 06, 2018, 04:35:06 AM
Are Jarmo and Katarina competitors ::)


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: jarmo on June 06, 2018, 05:21:08 AM
Are Jarmo and Katarina competitors ::)

No.

It's a hobby of mine. I just do it for fun because I enjoy doing it.  :)



/jarmo




Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: cyllan on June 06, 2018, 05:39:01 AM
Superb pics, Jarmo. Especially like the ones of Duff and Richard.  : ok:


Title: Re: [Updates] June 3rd, Olympiastadion, Berlin
Post by: estebanf on June 06, 2018, 06:27:55 PM
Are Jarmo and Katarina competitors ::)

Jarmo definitely has a much better sense and taste for the takes and the angles, and his post-production edition is way more ''natural'' and ''real'' than Katarina's, and that's of course my humble and insignficant opinión. Kat's pics are too much artificial in my opinion. When you can notice the digital edition, when the digital edition is the first thing you notice, something's wrong.

Trujillo is the best i've seen, and with the difficulty of taking his pics from the crowd.