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DUFF MCKAGAN Says AXL ROSE Has Come Up With 'Some Magnificent Stuff' For New GUNS N' ROSES Album
February 22, 2019



During an appearance earlier today (Friday, February 22) on SiriusXM's "Trunk Nation", Duff McKagan said that a new GUNS N' ROSES album could happen in the not-too-distant future, remarking: "I heard some new material and there's been some jams going around, and that's the next step for us, for the GN'R thing."

Asked by host Eddie Trunk "how real" the potential is for a new GUNS N' ROSES record, Duff replied: "Oh, it's real. But the fun part and the cool part about GUNS N' ROSES is we don't really talk about it, and what happens next just happens. It's never been that band that there's a direct schedule of how we do things."

He continued: "I've heard some magnificent stuff that Axl [Rose, vocals] has — really cool stuff he'd been working on. So I'm excited about the possibilities with that, of course. I don't mean to get anybody rabid. [A new GUNS N' ROSES album] will happen when it happens, that's for sure."

McKagan also said that he was surprised by the massive success of GUNS N' ROSES' "Not In This Lifetime" tour, which lasted for two and half years. "Anytime I play a gig, if there's three people in there, I'm, like, 'Wow! They came to see me play,'" he said. "Nothing's changed. I'm just always so grateful and astonished. Some of these gigs we played, a lot of 'em — most of 'em, if not all — were astonishing how many people came and were so into it."

Earlier in the month, Slash told Japanese rock critic and media personality Maso Ito on TVK's "Rock City" program that there was "material going on already" for a new GUNS record. But Slash added, "It's just, with GUNS N' ROSES, you don’t go, 'Oh, there is a plan, and it's gonna be like this,' because that's not how it works. So, basically, the only real answer to give is we're hoping to put a new record out, and we'll just see what happens when it happens."

Slash's comments echoed those made by guitarist Richard Fortus the previous week, when the latter told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch: "Slash is on tour [with his solo group] right now. Once he gets back from that, we're gonna get some more recording done and hopefully get an album out soon."

There has been speculation about a new album from GUNS N' ROSES ever since three-fifths of its original lineup reunited in 2016 for the "Not In This Lifetime" tour.

There hasn't been a new GUNS N' ROSES album since 2008's "Chinese Democracy", which featured only Axl from the band's classic lineup.

The last collection of original music to feature Axl, Slash and McKagan was 1991's "Use Your Illusions" albums, and the last LP of any kind to feature the three was the 1993 covers set "The Spaghetti Incident?"

Slash is currently on the road overseas with his solo band, MYLES KENNEDY & THE CONSPIRATORS, as they continue to promote their most recent album, "Living The Dream". Axl's plans for the rest of 2019 are less clear, although there has been speculation that he could tour again with AC/DC should that band's singer, Brian Johnson, be unable to perform live again for extended amounts of time.

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/duff-mckagan-says-axl-rose-has-come-up-with-some-magnificent-stuff-for-new-guns-n-roses-album/





/jarmo

That's very promising.

But we have heard this all before.....



 

Yes. And new material arrived  : ok:

It’s Dizzy’s turn now!  :hihi:

Yep... : ok:

Soon is the word  :hihi:

I'll say what I'd say during the CD waiting days: it'll come whenever it'll come.

Yep  ;D

"Soon is the word as in a week or two  ;D

So from the sounds of it, the work that may or may not happen later this year will largely consist of Slash, Duff & Richard (if he hasn't already) adding their imprints to what has already been recorded.  If that's the case, then what Richard said about an album materializing "sooner than you think" makes some sense.

Yes, this is feeling more and more like they are adding to some of the previous CD era material to get that released.

I'm not too sure where people are getting that from really. It's not been said, as far as I'm aware?

"I've heard some magnificent stuff that Axl [Rose, vocals] has — really cool stuff he'd been working on. So I'm excited about the possibilities with that, of course."

I got that bit - but I'm not sure why people think this would be CD era material.

I don't get this either. That was a long time ago and wouldn't a fresh start seem more likely.

Would it matter where or when the song is from?




/jarmo

Not really. I was just wondering why people think it's CD era material that is being discussed.

Yes, and its' pretty obvious, from a musician point of view at least. From a listener point I don't know, it depends.

Probably because that's the last time Axl did any notable recording with studio backing? Sure he could be tinkering in a home studio, but I doubt that's the material he's shown Slash & Duff.

Is it really?

I'll give you two examples. November Rain and Estranged were songs written by Axl that the band then put their stamp on. Amazing songs.

Does anyone really focus on the fact that they were "Axl songs" from the beginning?

An amazing song is an amazing song. No matter who wrote it and when.



There's been examples like this through GN'R history. Not all GN'R songs were written while they sat in a room together.....




/jarmo

Why not? I'd say it's way more likely to be new ideas than previously recorded studio recorded tracks that they're willing to wipe the contribution of past musicians from and replace with the current lineup.

Anyway - it's all speculation, which is my point. No one has said anything about it being CD-era material, nor have they even hinted at it, to to the best of my knowledge. It's all just people reading into things their own interpretation.

So, full disclosure: I'm not a musician. And I don't pretend to be one (nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night).

But I have friends who are, though only a couple in popular music.  But I have more than a few friends who work in "media music" aka they score film, games, television, and even the odd theme park attraction.

From everything I've learned from them, the above isn't the case. Not mostly.  They will tinker with stuff for years.  They will put stuff they think is a good start but they just can't finish on the back burner and come back to it months/years later.  They will work on something that just isn't right for one project, and dust it off much later for another project.  They will work on something LITERALLY for a decade, on and off, and then find the right mind set (and project) to finish it/monetize it.

I just had a friend who released an album that has some stuff on it that he literally started writing in college (and I couldn't tell you, from listening, which tracks those were).  It's been his most successful album release to date.

Granted: These friends are not working with a band. They are mostly solo composers who either use synth for their tracks or hire in orchestras/bands to play their stuff for recording.  But I can tell you based off their anecdotal stories that NO ONE they are working for/with asks them WHEN the track was written/started/conceptualized.  And if it sounds/sounded dated (unless that's the vibe they are going for) it wouldn't sell.

I think maybe this one depends largely on the musician and who they are working with/for/etc.  I don't think its as hard and fast a determination as you depict it in your post.  It might matter to YOU.  I'm not sure it matters to everyone (or even most everyone).

Sure, but NR without solos is an incomplete song and far from being amazing or a masterpiece (thats why it took i don't know how many years to deliver it) and estranged musically is all about the guitar work. Those were axl's "incomplete" songs. But it's ok, they were a band and they put ideas here and there, you work on my song and viceversa...I'm not talking about being in the same room. I'm just talking about working togheter on incomplete/new stuff, you know, u have the riff or the piano part, but not the solo, or the synth, or the vocals etc etc. U have almost a complete song but you need a break part and u don't have any idea so here it comes the other guy who says "we can do this we can do that" ...
I mean  we all know Axl has material for 2 cds... But they are complete songs already (written and played by thousands of people), and I'd like to listen to those songs in their original form. Do you really see slash just playing finck or buckeathead parts or just playing his blues/hard rock licks instead of those virtuoso things? I mean, it could work, but does it make any sense?
I'd like to listen to new material they can bring togheter, to see if they've got their old spark, just this. Being in a band is all about create togheter something, if you have to play songs already written, you can buy songs from thousands of songwriters out there


"An amazing song is an amazing song. No matter who wrote it and when." Ehm wtf, just no, art and genius need to be recognized

You just proved my point.






The last tour kinda proved that they can.

Listen to the live versions of the songs from Chinese Democracy. They didn't try to play them exactly like they are on the album. They made the songs their own.




Huh?

It doesn't matter where and how the song started if the end result is amazing.



My whole point is that IF the songs are already written, it doesn't matter. They would still make the songs sound like GN'R.




/jarmo

I really got your point, but those songs are not "their" songs, just this. They play live and let die, kohd, and made those songs better than the originals, but those are not their songs, even if those"sound gnr". I'd like to see if they can put togheter something that comes out of their minds, hearts and fingers. I wanna see and hear a team working, cause we already had a lot of conversations about chinese democracy and the fact that many songs sound like demos, or "cut & copy" stuff, and i wouldn't like to go there again. :peace:

None of the GN'R members wrote those songs for GN'R. Unlike most GN'R songs.

I said most GN'R songs because a song like Reckless Life wasn't written for GN'R.... It existed before GN'R did. But it was written by people that later started the band.


Yes, you want song writing team work. I'd be happy with GN'R songs.

It seems like you already have a bias. It's like you've already come up with reason(s) why not to like the songs. If they are Chinese style songs. Which is kinda funny because all we heard was "we need those guys back in the band". Then it happened, and then it turned into "we need new music".... And now it's almost like "we need new music but it has to be done the way I want it to be done". Just shows you that you will never be able to please everyone....  :hihi:

Like I said, I don't care about all that. The band is my favorite band. I don't like songs less based on how they were written/recorded, or by who and when.... But that's just me.




/jarmo

We knew based on Axl's comments back in 2014 that at that point he already had another album more or less ready to go.  It makes sense that he wouldn't want to throw the baby out with the bath water and continue working on those songs with this lineup.  I just hope it's not a "cut and paste" type situation, and that he allows Slash and Duff the freedom to really make, say, The General and Atlas Shrugged, their own and put their spins on them.  Sorta the way they did with the live versions of Better and Chi Dem.

Yes. The album was pretty much done.

But then you have to remember that at the time it made sense to release it the way it was. Without knowing the details of the songs or album, we know who was in the band.

Fast forward to 2019. Things are different. It doesn't necessarily make sense to release the same exact album now just because it did in 2014..... Different band.


I'll give you an example. A song like Shackler's Revenge. It made sense to put it on Chinese Democracy. But maybe today they would rather go for a song like let's say I.R.S..... If that makes sense.


So maybe the album isn't the same as it was in 2014 because some things have changed....  ???





/jarmo

To be honest, I'd like to hear it how it was then, as it was obviously something that as you say made sense at the time. To me, that's something I'm very interested to hear. That's not to say of course I wouldn't want to hear any updates that may or may not have been made to the material, but my curiosity will always make me want to hear different versions of stuff.

I do wonder if the material left over from that era might have been put away, and that time has now gone as in 'the moment has passed for that work'. Who knows? I think it's fair to say though that the motivations and mindsets that drove the band at that time have now altered- which may well have an impact on what they want to release, lyrically and musically.

Sure. I get that you'd want to hear it. Many of us would love to.

But the thing is. Let's assume, for the sake of discussion, that the album that was done in 2014 is even more experimental or similar to Chinese Democracy in style.

Does that really describe the band in 2019?

Also, it's possible other songs that were considered not to fit that album might now make more sense..... It works both ways! :)




/jarmo

Yeah absolutely. What worked then might not work now.

If you had a choice, would you go for that old material being released exactly as it was in 2014, or updated and amended for 2019? (Let's say, as a discussion, you can only choose one to come out). I think I'd probably go for the former personally, if I couldn't have both!

I'm one of those who believe that the band knows better what works for them. Whatever they want to release.

The super fan in me obviously would love to hear everything ever recorded!  :hihi:



/jarmo

Haha! Yep! I feel the same really, bands know what they want to do and what works, and as a fan I do respect that.

Having said that, it always frustrates me that there's stuff I can't hear- but that's part of being a fan I suppose!

If there is some raw material i think they could work on it, or even if there is some almost complete stuff that Axl thinks could sound much better with the old partners in crime they could work on it

Apart from that, i'd like to hear new songs entirely written by the holy trinity AND the already recorded songs played by the other guys.

But at the end of the day, I think we'll have a 13-14 songs album with 2-3  new songs and the rest will be the unreleased CD 2 stuff re-recorded

I think you will be pleasantly surprised.

We might get 10 (or some number) of CD 2 era stuff, but I think it's a disservice to just say "re-recorded".  I suspect that stuff will be largely rewritten.   Not the lyrics or basic meldoy, but the actual meat and potatoes of the songs.

You pointed out Estranged...and I think that's a good example.  And I further think Duffs comments support my "feeling":  The guys will put their own spin on all of it.  They'll listen to what Axl has, and they might play within that melody and lyrical "space", but it will be Duffs and Slash's heart and soul in it (and Franks, and Richards).  They will work in their own flourishes, solos, etc within the confines of the structure.  I think Duff saying he's heard "really amazing stuff" speaks to that....if they're listening to it, I'm assuming they're giving feedback and planning how they're going to expand it and make it their own.

I mean...this is all circle jerking theory crafting, really.  We won't know til the stuff comes out, and maybe not even then.  But I have faith that they'll create as a unit....sure, some of it might start out with CD2 era material as it's basis.  But I don't think it will sound anything like it did in 2014, in whatever state that was, once it sees release.

Just like I expect Slash and Duff will bring some stuff to the table they've been fiddling with over the past decade...but it was too "Guns-y" for them to do solo, or with their other bands. 

Again...I guess we'll see!!  But, the positive in all this is...I think we have confirmation there is new music being worked on.  That was a big point of contention late last year...whether they would/could function as a creative unit anymore.  I think we have zero doubt that's the case, now.

Pilferk, this a fantastic post and basically sums up my hopes for what the next album will ultimately be.  I suspect if Axl has perfectly good vocals and melodies recorded from 99-08 that they're not getting scrapped by any means.

Why would anyone actually care if New music came out that was from CD Era sessions or completely new its going to be all NEW to US.

In addition to this, "This I Love" started out as a UYI era song back in 1993 and turned into something else on CD in 2008. 15 year gap between the start of a song to its finish. GNR always had  history in starting songs but finishing it up later on.

GNR doesn't seem to work that way though. They didn't throw away Nov Rain or YCBM because those were written before AFD came out. And supposedly Axl recorded TIL in 1993, so it's possible Slash did some playing on that which was wiped. Not to mention Brian May and a bunch of other musicians' parts getting wiped throughout CD.


You are assuming they wouldn't completely re-write the songs. Maybe Axl would just approach Slash with the same basic idea he approached Bumblefoot with on, say, Atlas Shrugged, and not whatever form the song ultimately reached with Bumble. But even if he did show Slash a well-formed version, there is no way Slash wouldn't want to re-write it anyway.

But at the end of the day, I think only a few songs would be post-CD material anyway, just the strongest material that Axl cannot let go to waste, and would fit with the current lineup. I feel like a lot of it probably wouldn't work anyway. Stuff like Oh My God and Shackler would not fit the current band. So I think it will be at most 1/2 CD material, at most.

plus, the gap time allows Axl to estimate if the songs passed the test of time

I'm certainly in the camp of whatever they release I'll be happy, don't care when it was written.  It will be collaborative I'm sure in a number of ways for different songs.  At the end of the day, I'm an Axl supporter number one, because for me there's been no side projects that can touch anything GN'R has done, including Chinese Democracy. 

I do hope before the end of days, we'll get to hear the full lot of completed material that's in the vault, including the more experimental stuff that probably isn't right for the current line up.  Would be a shame for any of it to go to waste. 

Slash and Duff are just throwing out this PR stunt about GNR recording a new album to promote their own new albums surely if a GnR album was in the works they would put their own side projects on hold, sounds to me they don't really know what will happen with the band or whether they will be in it going forward ,the former members all fed the press about new music for years after CD but nothing came about and most of them were kicked to the Kerb when Slash and Duff came back.

The Chinese guys had multiple side projects too....no changes on any front in my opinion. Just another group of musicians with the same issues to deal with.  :-\

If any of the mega bands like Metallica,U2 or the Foo fighters say they are working on a new album you know they are gonna deliver with GnR they've been saying it for nearly a decade yet nothing has happened, I'll only believe it when Axl says it what Duff and Slash have said is very vague and doesn't indicate they are committed to a timeline or that they are in the process of doing it both are on the road and promoting their own music for much of this year so I won't hold my breath.

Do we have the audio of his interview?

Yeah, hard to argue any of this.

Thing is, Slash and Duff will at least try to kick him in the ass.  Will it work?  Who knows?

The double edged sword being the sooner they both come to the conclusion, "yep, same old Axl", they will just go back to their other stuff.  They have too much history knowing change will not be right around the corner.

Not sure if anyone saw it but there was something floating around about Niven saying he talked to Slash who said something like Axl's digging up old CD tunes etc. to work on for new album. No idea if it was a BS story or not.
Either way - I think the point made above about these two knowing exactly what has happened in past - will indeed put the pressure on to collaborate.
So if there's "ideas" from CD that they can mold and transform into something new with Slash / Duff and this band..I'm all for it - because that is not much different than happens with a lot of other bands.

Agreed. 

I think the best case scenario is that Axl takes the handful of songs he feels the strongest about, presents them to Slash and Duff, and they go from there.

You could really argue that's what they did with 'Better'.  Took a CD era song and put their stamp on how it was presented.

Even then, would Axl's best tracks amount to a full album? Probably not, so there would still be room for new material from Slash/Duff.

I mean, we saw this with Illusions, no? And they've all talked about it in interviews post break up.

They worked on some slash songs, some duff songs, some Izzy songs, and some Axl songs.  They all brought stuff to the table that the others then added their input and put their stamp on.

That's the way I would expect this to work, at least.  With AFD, it was different.  These guys were, by necessity (because they were broke), together almost 24x7. I don't think there can be any realistic expectation that THAT kind of organic collaboration is going to happen again, short of someone offering them 20 mill a piece for "Guns n Roses Big Brother".

I think that's the right read.

And it might be the best of all worlds, really.  We all debate where Axl's head is with his Magical Mystery Vault.  But I think we can all agree he doesn't want to be told, "hey, fuck all that shit".

So the best course of action might well be a hybrid effort where some of the songs are CD holdovers, and some are brand new stuff by the actual current band.  Make everyone feel they were involved, creatively.

Yep.

I think people tend to have this idealized version of things like Lennon & McCartney sitting at the piano hammering it out.

But as you correctly point out, once you hit the big time, you spend a lot more time apart.  Most of your stuff is going to be stuff you all bring to the others, and go from there.  Not a song put together in one night on the back of a pizza box.  Those days are kind of over.

Either way, it will be a fascinating listen.
& add in that they are quite aware of the expectations and interest in a new album with them together again.

Exactly.

First, and foremost, 'cause they're not all sharing the same pizza because it's all they can afford.

Second, because technology doesn't necessitate it anymore.  Back in the 80's, the only way to hear Slash play his part of the song was to sit down with Slash and listen to him play it.  Nobody was going to invest in an expensive recording session to get something of quality just to throw ideas back and forth. I mean demos, sure.  But those are for mostly realized concepts...not for fiddling and diddling with melodys, solos, and the like.  Now you can have the functions of a full recording studio for a couple hundred dollars that will get you album quality output (at least).....and I'm sure they all have even better than that.

They can throw ideas back and forth over the internet and EASILY collaborate that way, while being hundreds or thousands of miles apart.  They could create a private soundcloud and use that to to collaborate.  Hell, they could have their own private discord server which would let them collaborate AND post funny memes AND laugh at this very post on HTGTH.  There's so many different ways to exchange music back and forth....and talk about whats in that music....they don't NEED to be in the same room.

You can decry the loss of that organic "Have to be in the room" mechanism.  But thats the way most ESTABLISHED bands work, now (oh, and the label manufactured ones), it seems.  The days of Lennon and McCartney jamming on a piano to work out the kinks of a song are over, for good or ill, as you rightly point out.  It is now the day where Lennon is playing his piece on a synth hooked up to his laptop, while Yoko yodels along doing impressionist dances to inspire him (all over skype, of course). Paul is working on lyrics with his Ipad, while watching a Lakers game on his phone, and playing "Words with Friends" with Linda (who doesn't love beating an Ex at word games?).

This is the way music is created now but  something is lost when it is created in that way. It sounds too 'perfect'

You can tell when something is recorded with all the members in the studio.  I very much miss that.

I mean, sure.

And I miss the warm sound of vinyl.

But....I've gotten to the point where (and I'm with you on this) it feels like I'm the old man, standing on my lawn, shaking my fist at the sun and yelling at it that it's too bright.

It is what it is.  Does the music sound different? Yes.  But it's not BAD necessarily.  Just different.

I prefer the "old" way, too.  But I suspect there is a bit of "familiarity preference" built into that.  I like the music that sounds like the music I grew up with.  My parents (and likely their parents) feel/felt the same way.

My dad, when he was alive, used to listen to old Arlo Guthrie albums that sounded like they were recorded underwater while simultaneously being sandblasted.  He used to say the same thing about "my" music that you just said: It sounded too perfect. ;)

We all become our parents, I guess, when it comes to musical tastes.

As far as I can remember Axl didn't want to release CD he sat on it for over a decade, with Geffen putting so many millions into it he had no choice as it was taken  out of his hands ,the lack of promotion by the band was telling no press ,TV interviews or videos and a quick follow up while promised by the band never happened ,even the Greatest hits they tried to block ,I just
 don't get it they have a huge fan base why not give em what they want.

I don't think we can even say if the different approaches really produce a different result. I mean, how is your contribution to an idea going to be different whether you hear the idea in person or over the web? And the idea has to come from one person initially. It's not like for AFD they were able to mind-meld and come up with ideas as a single entity. Slash wrote the riff for Rocket Queen when he was in a previous band with Steven and Duff. Road Crew, was it? And Anything Goes was from Hollywood Rose. By the standards of the people complaining about using old material, even AFD was an album of "re-heated leftovers".

Take Sweet Child. Slash had the intro riff and Izzy put some chords behind it. Would Izzy have written different chords if he heard that riff through an mp3 file? Of course not.

And then let's take Estranged, from the album where they allegedly did not really collaborate. Well, Axl said himself that Slash's leads really added a meaningful amount to it. Even though the bulk of it was written by Axl, Slash's contributions radically shaped it. If that is what we can expect from "re-heated CD leftovers", bring it the fuck on!


You can tell? Tell me more about this magical power that is certainly not confirmation bias!

Believe it's called having a musical ear

I'm a musician who learned everything I know by ear. You cannot determine how a song was written by just by listening to it, that is utterly asinine, and it shouldn't take any knowledge of music to figure that out...

I will 100% acknowledge, for me, it could be confirmation bias.

But my evidence that i prefer the old method is.....theres not much in todays music I love. Sure, there are occasional earwigs, but in terms of bands? It all sounds so commercial and  mechanical and just....idk...souless?

A big part of that, i am sure, is the industry and the way its evolved into prefab label bands, many of whom dont write their own stuff at all.

But i think part of it is...getting a group of people in the same room, at the same time, and creating together is sort of magical. There is something to be said for that immediate feedback, and riffing off one another, that yields different results. Other peoples work influences yours, and expands your creative space. It pushes you to be better, imho, but it also can push you outside your comfort zone and to try things you might not. There is something about the immediacy and spontenaity of that creative moment that can yield inspiration, and special results.....provided they are all actually collaborating toward the same goal.

So I do mourn the loss of that creative avenue.

Can I hear the difference, for sure, every time? Probably not.  Because I'm not sure how you hear "what would this song have sounded like if it had been written differently that it was".

To be clear: I am not saying your points are wrong, or bad..they are good ones. Estranged is a great example: you can certainly wrote good songs "remotely". And i expect any new gnr material to be good, and most of it to be written "remotely". Because thats the way things work now.

I'm just doing a little more standing on my lawn and shaking my fist at the sun.

It seemed he was referring to sound of the recording and the mix - perhaps that was not the case

There are modern bands who write collaboratively. Some are good (Alabama Shakes) and some are mediocre (Greta Van Fleet, IMO, not trying to start a war). There are also old bands who collaborated and the results were garbage.

I'm just saying, you can send a video or audio clip immediately for feedback, and there's no reason you can't be just as spontaneous without the other person in the room physically. With video chatting like Skype, there really isn't much difference.

So, honestly, this would be an interesting study. Because my hypothesis is...there is a difference.

I know that I see it in my field (IT) when brainstorming solutions.  We are a lot more productive/creative (and I hear this from colleagues, too) when we are "in the room" vs when we are on conference call (video or otherwise).  That's 100% anecdotal, though.

And I can't say its different in music.  I just don't know, its not my field.

But I would love to see some sort of study that looked at this.  It would be interesting to see the results.

In many cases you can tell how it was recorded. For example, sometimes you get the bleed thru effect when all of the musicians are in the room. How a song was written is a different thing, my point is how it was recorded. The drummer's mic can pick up a small part of the bass guitar, etc. Im by no means a studio engineer, but sometimes you can tell.

Also of course the way it was produced / mixed is a big factor.

Maybe it is the middle aged mentality I have about music but I appreciate more of an organic sounding song ( even better if it was recorded on analog tape , if anyone even does that anymore VS something spliced and layered with pro-tools).  

So many ways of recording things nowadays.

Yes, if everyone is in the same room playing the same song and it's recorded, you might notice it because the drum mics might pick up other sounds.

But then again, each member could record their parts separately. I believe this is what GN'R has always done.

Not sure if you can tell the difference between that one versus people recording their parts in different studios though.....




/jarmo

I'm really curious as to what the recording process will be later this year when they rev things up.  In theory, Axl may not have to do any further recording if the idea is to use what's already been recorded and have Slash & Duff rework them.

All I can say is that I also work in IT and especially in the past 6 months I've been involved in a project that is 100% Skype. Well, I have visited the other office a couple of times to meet the team. Still, there are a lot of meetings that I must talk with people that I have never met or at least not always sure if I have.

It's just not productive in a way it should be. Things get lost in translation. I mostly work from home and sometimes I realise I'm not actually even listening to what is being said. Surely, that could also happen when everyone is in the same room that you just drift with your own thoughts without anyone noticing.

I don't know the music business but I don't see how it could be possible that the songs are as cool as they could be if and when people are sending MP3s to each other. When in the room it's so much easier to communicate. It is just what it is.

Another example is that I'm meeting my friend abroad and we booked different hotels because of different travelling dates. I don't remember the name of his hotel to finalise the meeting point but he'll get back to me. Now I just wait. Had we been in the same room planning the trip I would've known the name in 30 seconds and we could've looked at the map together in an easy way.

Why wouldn't it be true in music and a better way to work that someone goes to toilet and meanwhile another band member says 'hey, can you come here quickly and check about this, what do you think.'

Yeah, I was going to say the same thing, but wasn't 100% sure.  I didn't think GNR had ever recorded (short of live material) as a full band.  I thought they'd always done "parts" recording and engineered them together...most bands since the mid to late 70's have recorded that way.

I'd say if it works, it works.

Pretty rare now that a band record in a room, all together at the same time. I honestly couldn't tell you how a lot of bands record though - I kind of feel it's a bit like seeing behind the scenes at the theatre. Interesting, to a degree, but it's the end product that matters and I enjoy largely forgetting the technical/realistic element in favour of simple enjoyment of the end product and a certain remove from it that allows for a 'romantic' perspective on the recording process.

I give you that. I work for a big company that is quite well-known around the globe with apparently a lot of happy customers. Then at the same time behind the scenes not everything goes so smoothly while the end product is good.

This is the world we live in now.

Unfortunately most bands dont go out  and rent a house for the acoustics and record the album while there.....yes Im dating myself......

http://www.rockandrollgps.com/headley-grange-where-led-zeppelin-recorded-stairway-to-heaven-and-led-zeppelin-iv/ (http://www.rockandrollgps.com/headley-grange-where-led-zeppelin-recorded-stairway-to-heaven-and-led-zeppelin-iv/)

Reminded me of Brain's story of the recording of the drums for Chinese.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkGsRv1JB1o

Slash recorded his self titled solo album entirely on analog tape and said it cost an arm and a leg to do it. Since then, he hasn't again. IDK about the preceding albums (if anyone does, chime in).

Thanks Spirit....further proof that a lot more than 14 songs were recorded for Cd. He said about 30 in total. Tommy said 22 other songs recorded that were not on Chinese. Brain was a stud! Tommy was a stud!  :hihi:

I have to say, when I play it, I can't actually tell the difference between that and one that isn't either!

If I remember correctly, he has said that is was very expensive for the first solo album , but the following albums (SMKC) became cheaper because tape was becoming more available due demand.

It's really all in the production and mastering. All the following albums with Myles were produced/mixed like shit.


Maybe so, that sounds vaguely familiar. If true, that really makes it all the more depressingly impressive that Baskette managed to make them sound like brickwalled digital crap.

DUFF MCKAGAN On GUNS N' ROSES: 'Things Are Very Positive In That World'

During an appearance on yesterday's (Thursday, March 28) episode of "The Rich Eisen Show", Duff McKagan was asked if he had an update on the upcoming GUNS N' ROSES studio album that he and guitarist Slash had previously confirmed was in the works. "Do I have an update on it? No," the bassist said (see video below). "I will say things are very positive in that world. I did say something about it in an interview. People are super interested in that, and I understand why. I do like the mystique factor of the band, and I shall keep it there. But things are positive… Things are great."

Duff added: "We had a wonderful, amazing two-and-a-half-year tour we just did, and it ended on such a high note, and it was overwhelming how many people came to see those shows. We played a hundred and fifty-nine shows. We played The Troubadour April 1st, 2016. And Axl [Rose, vocals] broke his foot, like, third song in, and I thought, Well, we've got this one show under our belt. We did this thing. And he wanted to continue on. He was, like, 'This isn't gonna stop me.' We played a bunch of shows with him in a cast in a chair, and we just went through so many revelations of things and ended that on a high note. And that's where we're still at."

Last month, McKagan told satellite radio program "Trunk Nation" that he "heard some magnificent stuff that Axl has — really cool stuff he'd been working on" for GUNS' next record. "So I'm excited about the possibilities with that, of course. I don't mean to get anybody rabid. [A new album] will happen when it happens, that's for sure."

Both Slash and fellow guitarist Richard Fortus have said in recent interviews that there is material in the works for a new GUNS album, which would be the first under the band's name since 2008's "Chinese Democracy". The last collection of original music to feature Axl, Slash and McKagan was 1991's "Use Your Illusion" albums, and the last LP of any kind to feature the three was the 1993 covers set "The Spaghetti Incident?"

McKagan's new solo album, "Tenderness", will be released on May 31. The record sees Duff reflecting on his experiences traveling the globe on GUNS N' ROSES' "Not In This Lifetime" tour.

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/duff-mckagan-on-guns-n-roses-things-are-very-positive-in-that-world/




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