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Title: Gardening
Post by: cineater on February 02, 2021, 09:36:54 AM
Greenhouse opened yesterday.  Transplanted pansies for 4 hours.  We've got the onions up and seeding all the lettuces, swiss chard, cool season stuff.  Left some of the plants in the greenhouse.  Seeds went home with people to get started.

I'm with a gardening group.  Opening of the greenhouse kicks us into high gear for the season.  We have 5 acres sleeping that will come alive sometime in March.  I'm the labor not the brains in this group.  The flower girl in this party.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on February 04, 2021, 01:40:54 PM
I have toasty toes!  :D  Finally, my feet were freezing working in the garden.  Like those plastic type boots.  Just hose the mud off of them but, there is no way to keep your feet warm when it starts to get cold.   

Got myself a new pair of boots from Redwing.  Waterproof and something in the toe for added warmth, actually strength but it holds in the heat.  Not sure if I can do a ladder lace with these eyelets.  I prefer that so I don't have the pressure on the top center of my foot and your boot doesn't come off until you take it off.  :hihi:  Oh happy day, new boots.  :D


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on February 16, 2021, 11:56:02 PM
OMG!  We're putting up QR codes all around the garden.  I'm writing all the narratives for the 24 codes.  I got a "loving those" on the scripts from the other project lead.  Yeah, I'm just lighting matches and throwing them into the wind here and this one took.  I come up with the best ideas when I'm gardening.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on February 19, 2021, 02:43:58 AM
One of our visitors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8YeYWdlwaQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8YeYWdlwaQ)

Think that's what you'd call a ninja turtle.  :D


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on February 20, 2021, 06:21:40 PM
Balmy 80 degrees in the greenhouse.  Transplanted coleus and coneflowers.  Having a hard time getting lettuce to germinate at home.  Think they know how cold it got.  Nice and warm in the room but everything seemed to stop when the cold hit. 

Pretty sure I'm going to have to cut my crepe myrtle down to the ground.  Here we grow them as a bush.  The cold weather frequently kills the tops.  I had just got mine up to 6 foot trees with mild winters the last couple of years.  I'm not going to bother pruning them until I know they lived.  Left canna bulbs in the ground too.  Probably lost those but I have a couple hundred I dug up.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on March 02, 2021, 12:07:19 PM
And all the sudden it's spring!  :D  I can tell, where don't I hurt?  Always in such great shape by the end of the growing season and so out of shape at the start.  :hihi:  The secret to that is get those muscles warmed up and don't stop.  And a well, worn in pair of work boots.  Why do I ever take these off?  :D


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on March 09, 2021, 11:48:17 PM
I got all my cool season crops in.  Rather they are in containers.  I do what they call a salad bowl, crops so you can cut your own salad.  I have to bring the containers into the garage each night so the critters don't get them but it works out pretty well.  Amazing how much better stuff tastes right from the garden.  :)


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on March 18, 2021, 11:12:17 PM
I have been watching so many webinars on native plants I now feel guilty for planting exotics.  I'm still doing it but I feel bad.  :hihi:  I'm going to switch over.  I'll collect seeds this fall and start growing natives.  I do like birds, bugs and butterflies.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on March 21, 2021, 02:11:21 PM
What is going on?  We've had very poor germination this year.  Normally we have bunches of stuff come up but we're getting only a few seeds to germinate from a packet in some stuff.  I'm not even getting marigold seed collected from the parks to do any good.  My friend said Baker Seed company is sending extra seeds "due to poor germination rates".  Is something going on with pollination?

We have a big wig at the demonstration gardens we call Mr Evil.  He tries to trip us up, complains and spies on us from his office to catch us messing up.  I'm pretty over protective of my team and the gardens so when the garden that he first sees out his window because available, I took it.  It's in the shape of a butterfly and for it's spring look I'm planting a bunch of leaf lettuces in it.  They blow in the breeze and look like the butter fly is taking flight.  That's idea behind it, first year I'm trying it.  I'm demonstrating what's called a "Salad Bowl" planting.  Or what's known amongst some of the team, the message to be seen from his window, EAT ME!  :hihi:


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on April 06, 2021, 12:41:20 AM
Harvested my first salad.  I'm using blood meal around the plants and the bunnies and squirrels have stayed out of the containers.  The cats on the other hand seem to think there is a fresh kill in there and are always checking them out.  I have one unprotected bed in ground at the garden with blood meal, so far it hasn't been attacked.  Have to reapply after every rain.  Not something I would do with our actual pantry beds, chicken wire for them.  Would need to much product for those and I'm not sure about putting that much nitrogen in the beds.  Says it works to deter moles, no it doesn't.



Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on April 11, 2021, 04:18:53 PM
OMG, I propagated a pear tree from one of the pruned off canes.  Just nicked up the cane, put some rooting hormone on it and stuck it in a bucket of my home made potting soil.  It's budding out!  If I knew that was going to work I could have grown a whole grove.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on April 23, 2021, 11:37:22 PM
I'm glad with prices going up at the grocery store I'm growing some of my own produce and I have friends with chickens.  :D

We're in mid plant sales.  Lots of people ordering veggies.  I'm able to convince people to trying growing stuff in containers.  The whole country saw an increase last year in vegetable gardening and it looks like the interest is there again this year.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on April 29, 2021, 02:32:56 PM
Aw, the greenhouse shuts down tomorrow and all remaining plants get composted.  I'm not allowed to come up for that.   :hihi:  I would find homes for all the leftovers but they don't want to do that for sales reasons.  As it is, I have around 1200 plants hanging out on my driveway.  Most will go into my beds at the garden, some for the parks and a few for gifts.  Next week is get my garden beds ready for planting with a goal for mid month having everything planted.  It's fun but it's a lot of work.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on May 03, 2021, 10:52:57 PM
When I said harvest the leaf lettuce, I meant cut off the outer leaves and leave about 3 leaves.  Show up this morning and its been cut to the ground.   :no:  It was just starting to look so cool.  I had originally planted it so it would make the butterfly shape look like it was taking flight.  It was suppose to be for show but then I got feeling guilty because it is food and I let them harvest it.  It's okay, I was going to rip it out in a few weeks and put in a summer design.

Love my beds at the garden!  I'm a heavy leaf mulcher and those weeds barely grow in them and they pull right out.  I can dig in the soil with my hands.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on May 09, 2021, 12:20:47 PM
Woohoo!  I have the day off, not that I wanted to.  Week one down.  I put in well over 500 plants, seeds and bulbs.  Dug out the path around the greenhouse and put down fresh wood chips.  Damn, I out did myself, looks so good.  The miniature garden got 216 plants in it.  It's going to catch your eye.  I have one of my personal beds that needs a quick clean up and another bed I'm caring for this year I need to throw some bulbs in and then my obligations to my beds are done. 

Week two is getting the whole garden in order.  I have to put on my overall lead hat.  I rarely do this but that invasive weed in the Perennial garden is getting Round Up.  You can't dig that shit out and it's spreading around the property.  I get to play with the trimmer too.  I've put a call out for the rest of the membership to come weed on Saturday.  There's a couple of gardens where the leads haven't checked in yet and they are in terrible shape.  There's lots to do on the property that's under nobody's care.  I generally hit that.  The building opens from covid restrictions on the 17th and the gardens need to be up to speed.

I'm pretty much at the garden from 8:30 to dark with a short lunch break in the afternoon.  This is fun!  Yeah, I had to retire.  It interfered with my gardening.   :hihi:


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on May 15, 2021, 06:53:34 PM
Okay, this is getting a little annoying.  I had a medical issue that got me started on weight loss but I've also been on my feet and moving since March.  I'm down so much my pants constantly need to be pulled up.  Okay I can deal with that but today, wait I probably shouldn't say that but, the rest that goes along with pants won't stay up either!  And because my hands are always dirty I can't do anything about it.   :hihi:

I'm fully up to speed and kicking it.  Daylily path dug out and fresh wood chips put down.  Last night while trying to mulch the plants I found I could no longer lift the wheelbarrow.  :hihi:  My wheel barrel limit for the day is 19.  No way am I finishing the perennial bed tomorrow.  There will be a week 3.  We had 5 people on that bed this morning and only got a third of it done.  I only have two gardens to help get up and going and a the tool shed area to weed.  I have 5 flats of plants left.  Once that's done, I have a gift certificate for a massage and I'm getting my nails done.  I'm going back to being a retired, old lady.  You know one of those gardening women you see with a straw hat, a basket of flowers in their hands and not a spot of dirt on them.  :hihi:


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on May 16, 2021, 02:54:04 PM
Yes I am a little bit over the edge.  Think it's all the sun. 

We are a demonstration garden so yes, I am putting that poison ivy plant on display.  :hihi:  It gives me too much trouble and it's dead!  I'm going to put an inground metal collar around it so it can't spread that way and will have to keep in pruned back but I think it's a pretty good plant to show people.  Everybody always misidentifies that and it freaks them out.  Plus it will teach me to have patience and slow the fuck down, really pay attention to what I'm doing.  You know, if that is possible.  :hihi:


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on May 18, 2021, 05:45:09 PM
 :hihi:  There's only so long that yellow rain coat can keep you dry.  The clothes start soaking it up and after several hours, you're just wet.  It was kind of nice gardening in the rain.  Way better than hot and humid.  Almost too muddy to get in the car.

Working my ass off but this is fun.  Gave it up at 11 because I had some appointments but I need to finish up tomorrow.  We're getting summer weather after that.  All the lettuce is going to bolt.  It's kind of fun to weed.  I don't get to do that very often in my beds.  Round Up didn't touch the mugwort weed.  Next time I'll cut off the top so the plant soaks it up better.  The Perennial Garden was covered in it and it's going to try to jump into the Native Garden.  It spreads by rhizomes so there's no getting all of that out of the soil.  It would just creep out of a black plastic cover.  It's chemical warfare with this stuff.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on May 19, 2021, 04:47:14 PM
That's a wrap.  107 hours in 18 days, gardening boot camp is over.  The gardens are off to a good start.  The leads can take it from here.  I'm back to my gardens/beds and on lawn care.  I've planted a few eye catchers around property.  Just have to wait for them to grow up.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on May 21, 2021, 02:40:57 PM
Learned Counsel is coming tonight to do a building inspection.  They haven't been on campus since covid.  Could have given me a heads up so I could be sure the property was looking good for the VIP's.  Then again, doesn't phase me.  We are show ready.  Somebody tell them they need to do some remodeling on that building.  It's making our gardens look bad.  :hihi:


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on May 23, 2021, 12:23:23 PM
And then the riding mower won't start.  :hihi:  Oh yeah, I'm out there mowing it by hand.  I won't do the whole 5 acres but I will do a couple.  Number one pet peeve is the grass.

So people are starting to give me shit for being at the garden so much.  Like I need to get a life.  Like I'm going to wear myself out.  Like I'm doing too much.  I look at them and think, am I asking you to do anything?  You know, just tell me you like it.  What you're seeing here is my passion.  I wake up in the middle of the night and think shit, it's not time to go to the garden yet.  I have a ton of energy.  I'm doing all this without coffee.   :hihi:  I'm having a great time, leave me the fuck alone.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: pilferk on May 25, 2021, 07:42:01 AM
Mulch it all.  That's the correct answer for grass control. ;)



Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on May 25, 2021, 07:05:45 PM
Mulch it all.  That's the correct answer for grass control. ;)



 :hihi:  My favorite response to any gardening issue.

My hands have ground in dirt and callouses from gardening.  I am now wearing plastic gloves with moisturizer all night trying to get them to look good for the wedding.  It's working but my fingers are sliding all over the keyboard.  :hihi:


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on May 26, 2021, 08:14:03 PM
I added short shorts and 3 inch heels to the plastic gloves outfit last night.   :hihi:

Yep, all the lettuce bolted and the tomato plants have shot up.  Cool season crops are over and the warm season are taking off.  We buried the food pantry in lettuce.  They're going to have to share it with their pantries in other counties.  We occasionally do that, grow way more of one thing then they can use.  We did it with hot peppers one year and they finally told us thanks but no thanks.  :hihi:

We have strange weather tomorrow.  Possible flash flooding and large hail.  The whole property is just beautiful.  I did a lot of work redoing two long paths and the monarch garden in the flood zone.  We even have the greenhouse looking good.  Just give me one year where all's well.  I would like one year where all progress is moving forward.

This is my third year as their leader.  It was hard sell getting a volunteer group to come around to my way of thinking.  Basically, I wanted to take the gardens from something we just played around at to a professional looking, educational spot.  Gone is the farmer mentality of piles of junk and shit laying around where they dropped it.  They actually are thinking about educational signs they can put up and are working on them.  I've had my fingers in everybody's garden.  Sometimes working along side of them and sometimes just surprising them with what I did.  I raised the bar and they like it.  Got them off to a good start and they are following right alone.  I'm seriously surprised.  :hihi:  OMG, you should have heard the push back in the beginning.  We are a work in progress but they are working on it.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on June 01, 2021, 07:40:01 PM
 :hihi:  People are now starting to get it and are saying back to me about it being my passion is why I'm doing so much.  Glad they get it but it's my passion in May.  We're going up to 90 this weekend.  My passion just burned out.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: pilferk on June 07, 2021, 11:09:47 AM
Here's a little walkthrough of our garden.  We're in the 'burbs, but live in a PUD, so lots are basically postage stamp sized.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RaeEX30klk&t=2s


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on June 07, 2021, 01:31:20 PM
Here's a little walkthrough of our garden.  We're in the 'burbs, but live in a PUD, so lots are basically postage stamp sized.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RaeEX30klk&t=2s

Wow, I love it.  You are really using all your space.  We use the cattle paneling for trellis too.  Love the containers.  My veggies are all in containers at home.  Wish you would have talked us through it.  I think I know what I'm looking at.  :hihi:   How long have you been gardening?


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: pilferk on June 07, 2021, 03:21:17 PM

Wow, I love it.  You are really using all your space.  We use the cattle paneling for trellis too.  Love the containers.  My veggies are all in containers at home.  Wish you would have talked us through it.  I think I know what I'm looking at.  :hihi:   How long have you been gardening?

I will likely post a more in-depth walkthrough at some point.  This was just a little preview I put together for social media friends and family who wanted a peek.

As for how long?  Um...40+ years, here and there, I guess?  When I was 4, I remember roaming the gardens with my maternal grandmother in our back yard.  Helped out back there throughout my early years til I was 10 or so.  Then worked summers with my dad as a stone mason assistant throughout my teens, and stayed with my paternal grandmother those summers.  Part of staying was helping her in the garden. Did that til I graduated high school in '92. Then, we bought our house about 20 years ago and did some light gardening back there...mostly ornamentals on the edges (along the fence and the house) with a little "fairy garden" along the right back side (aka in the fence notch with no gate).  We started converting some of that space over to vegetables about 3 or 4 years ago (mostly peppers and tomatoes kinda thing), and HARDCORE swapped in spring of 2020.  Most of the panels and infrastructure there, now, were done over the winter and into the spring to maximize our growing space for this year. 

So...short answer...pretty much all my life.  It really has become my zen space.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: pilferk on June 07, 2021, 03:29:59 PM
Oh...and a quick runthrough:

Starts with strawberries.  The trellis will eventually be filled with climbing (aka arctic) strawberries, but probably not til NEXT year (they just went in, from seed, about 2 weeks ago).  The hanging tiers are all regular strawberries.  The bushes on the left are all blackberry bushes.  There's a trellis right there on the right I sort of "miss".  Those are cukes.  One side pickling, on side slicing.  The trellises along the house, on the right, as I move forward are all tomato plants.  Everything in containers are cherries.  The ones in the ground are beefsteak.  The containers down the center of that path are all bush beans.  The greenhouse doesn't have anything interesting right now.  The planters are a mix of brassicas.  Buttercrunch and romain.  There's a tiered planter of spinich in there, too.  As I move around the back of the greenhouse, the fenced in section is corn.  It's only fenced in to keep the critters from eating the shoots...they're just up in the past week.  As I come back around, all the bags between the benches are potato plants. The tree over it is a cherry tree. And the bushes in the ground...that are taking over...are rasberry bushes.  As I come forward, on the left is peppers of all sorts...jalepenos, red, green, and even a few rainbow plants I think.  The trellis on the right will have zuchini and spagehtti squash. They're through, but just and hard to see.  As I finish up, there's all that stuff under white netting.  Half of it is curly kale, and half is cabbage.  Netting is shade cloth and bug protection to keep it all healthy.

I think that's it?  There's chamomile all throughout, as well as some other pollinator draws (my mother actually plants and picks out the flowers), and the whiskey barrel with the lavender in it has a bunch of herbs planted in it (recently). Chives, Sage, Dill, and.....something else (my wife planted it, I can't remember).  On our very red deck, we have a couple more herb planters. Cilantro, Oregano, Basil, Thyme and parsley.

OK, THATS it. I think.  At least for now. ;)


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on June 07, 2021, 11:52:06 PM
You really went to town on getting that developed.  You have that place packed with good stuff.  Del uses the shade/bug cover over our stuff in the garden.  Must be a new fad as I've only recently seen it but it's a good idea. 

You can get a shade cloth for the greenhouse.  It's good to keep it from getting too hot during the summer.  Is this your first one?  We learned if you can keep it at 130 for 3 days (and nights) it will kill all the germs.  Easy during the day but we had to run the heater at night to keep it up there.  I thought it was a waste.  I'm going to wipe the whole place down anyway and they continued to run the exhaust fans with people in and out after they tried it.  I prefer wait until it cools down, spray the whole thing with bleach water and lock it up until we start growing in it again.  This year we got powdery mildew.  Think it came in from a grower but now we've moved our bleach solution up to 10% from 5.  I'm a stickler about sanitation in the greenhouse.  It hits the floor it better hit the bleach water before it goes back on a table.

Try Thai or Cardinal Basil.  Their seed head is fist size instead of the single stalk.  It looks like a flower in your garden.  Thai basil can be cooked at higher temps.  Has a sweet licorice flavor.  Purple seed head and some purple leaves.  Really pretty plant and it "blooms" all year.  I'll toss the spent seed heads in other plants to keep the squirrels from digging in them.  Haven't decided if that really works or not but I can tell you they never dig in the containers with basil.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on June 16, 2021, 04:18:26 PM
Leaf mulch!  We got in two trailers worth today.  Love that stuff.  Functional but it just makes everything look so much nicer.  Had them dump a hill on the parking lot right by the front gardens that needed it.  A swarm of folks cranked that out before the head of the place even knew we did it.  :D  Saved us about 100 yards per wheelbarrow.  Unfortunately we are an extreme, full sun garden.  We are waiting till tonight to hit on it again.  Got two gardens that still need to get done.  I'll be there at the crack of dawn tomorrow to move some more.  Doesn't weigh anything just a long walk from the bin where it's dumped to where it needs to be.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on June 18, 2021, 01:17:48 PM
Well fuck.  To be ADA compliant, our wood chip paths don't work.  Talking big bucks and a lot of labor.  Every time I get to a point where I think I can get down to focusing on the gardens for education, they throw something else at us.  Pull down the sail, I've lost my wind.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on June 24, 2021, 12:18:21 AM
Fuck, waves of rain over the next few days, 1 to 4 inches.  We'll flood if we get those higher amounts.  I just redid the two paths that get flooded out.  Nothing I can do but watch all those wood chips float away.  :'(

For the most part when we flood it's back fill.  It comes up, it goes down within a few hours.  Doesn't really hurt the plants but we have to wash off the muddy water it leaves behind on the leaves.  The current doesn't hurt the plants just makes a mess out of those two paths.  At our worst flooding, it will float away heavy wood structures like our bridges and benches.  It can come through there like rapids.  If it gets in our raised pantry beds, that's contaminated water.  You can not eat vegetables out of them for two years or what we did the one time that happened we had to dig all the soil out and put in fresh.  We never want to do that again.  :hihi:


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on July 07, 2021, 08:33:43 AM
That worked.  I took a new garden this year.  It's front and center in the garden, the show case bed.  A great opportunity to totally flop in front of everybody.   :hihi:  It's an annual flower garden with plants under 12 inches.  It's coming up masses of color.  Your eye goes right to it and it pops right out at you.  It's still growing but it's coming out great.  This month it's getting our big garden sign placed behind it.  It's been three years I've been trying to get somebody to put that sign put back up.  Hopefully my hands on involvement gets the job done.  Almost there.

I have a room full of potatoes curing.  Better than taking the garlic.  The whole house would have smelled of garlic.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on July 07, 2021, 05:57:34 PM
Woohoo!  We just found out the St Louis gardening magazine is coming out next week to do an article on our gardens.  My friend told me not to make everybody crazy by yelling for an all hands on deck to clean up the gardens.  We don't need that.  We have been show ready for months.  So ready I power washed the concrete in the handicapped garden.  I'm only doing that when there's nothing else to do out there.  I'm calling an all hands on deck so it's a group photo and I'm lost in the crowd. :hihi:  This garden doesn't look this great unless I'm this dirty.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on July 09, 2021, 06:33:03 PM
Wait, 'is the head guy from here gone'?  We were on a phone conference with the University.  Oh yeah and they have a new key to the building for me.  :o  They fired him and changed the locks.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on July 14, 2021, 02:22:17 PM
I'm not sure how you judge if your magazine interview went well.  The guy was there a long time, took lots of pictures, walked the whole garden.  Liked our native beds and the bird garden.  He's a native man.  I think Justin gave him all the prep info.  The gardens looked beautiful.  He was surprised how much we grew since he was there 10 years ago.  Will have to wait and see how much space we get in the magazine but any space is good.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: pilferk on July 14, 2021, 07:59:09 PM
Took about 5lbs of greenbeans, 5lb of carrots, and a few lbs of raspberries out of the garden today.  Unfortunately, we've lost a LOT of the raspberries to mold.  I've frozen a couple batches, building up so we have enough for jam at some point, but.....we're not gonna get what we had last year (or what we got out of the cherry tree, this year....15 jars!!).  Blackberries should be up in a week or two.  Hopefully better luck with those!

We've had TOO much rain.  About 10 straight days of rain, dating back to the 3rd, on and off. Today was the first real sunny day we've had, after rain in the AM.  Tomatoes are splitting just as they ripen, and those plants are looking ROUGH.  Gonna have to aggressively prune them this weekend.

On the flip side, cukes, peppers, corn, and squash all seem to have really liked the rain.  They've taken over their respective beds quite nicely.

I'm worried about our potatoes, though.  They were just laying over before the rain started....but all that water, I'm thinking we're going to have a bunch of rotten potatoes in a couple weeks when the tops finally die off completely.  Good thing I have another 5lbs of seed potatoes ready to go.

Besides pruning, time to process some herbs this weekend!  Herb "ice cubes" will be the goal of the weekend!


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on July 15, 2021, 06:53:28 AM
We've had the rain too, 2 inches above normal.  I know they are having trouble with the tomatoes.  I've been busy in other sections of the garden, fortunately it takes me by the blackberries.   :D


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on July 22, 2021, 11:08:58 AM
I feel like fresh meat out there.   :hihi:  The mosquitos are really bad.  Do you put poison on yourself or spray it around the yard?  I was reading that mosquitos are the most deadliest animal in the world.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: pilferk on July 22, 2021, 12:29:36 PM
I feel like fresh meat out there.   :hihi:  The mosquitos are really bad.  Do you put poison on yourself or spray it around the yard?  I was reading that mosquitos are the most deadliest animal in the world.

Mosquitoes hate:

Lavender

Peppermint

Basil

You can either use a little essential oil dab to keep them way, or just plant a crap ton of that stuff around the gardens (even if it's somewhat hidden....though I don't recommend mint because, as I'm sure you know, it will just take over).

We have Basil and Lavender everywhere (because it repels other pests, too) and it has made a huge difference!

You could also plant Marigolds.

There's not a lot of mosquito predators, unfortunately.  And most of them are aquatic (turtles, fish, etc).  If you can attract birds (which can be counterproductive to a good garden), they can help out, too.

We just try to make the environment as hostile to them as we can!  It's worked pretty well so far, and I've seen a HUGE drop in the population out there since we've really started companion planting the basil, lavender, and marigolds.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on July 25, 2021, 01:01:28 PM
What I really need is a bat.  I have the box but not a good place to put it.  It's the one draw back to using leaves as mulch, they hold a lot of moisture and the bugs love it.

We've had so much rain there has been no need for the plants to send their roots deep.  We're headed for two weeks of extreme heat with no rain.  I don't waste the water on my flowers in ground or the grass.  Beautiful now but everything may look like shit in a couple of weeks.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on July 29, 2021, 12:46:00 AM
How do you cook eggplant?  I guess I have to try it.  Marsha threw the plants out the back of the greenhouse because they had bugs on them.  They laid out there about a week refusing to die so I planted them.  And they grew up to produce so I guess I'm obligated.  I'm going to give them a try but I really think Marsha should have to first.  :hihi:


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on July 29, 2021, 04:58:38 PM
A little olive oil, some garlic, pepper and sea salt, little cheese, wasn't bad.  I wouldn't say anything great and it looks a little weird but eggplant is edible.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on July 31, 2021, 11:33:55 AM
Damn it, damn it, damn it!  Not that we don't need the rain but I was so enjoying myself out there this morning.  It's around the first of the month, I weed all my beds.  Something about weeding that is so relaxing.  The heavens opened up and poured on us.  Kind of funny to watch everybody scramble.  I would have stayed and worked under the eaves but it started lightening.  Hopefully it clears up this afternoon.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: pilferk on August 01, 2021, 02:55:03 PM
Took about 10 lbs of tomatoes out of the garden this morning.

threw them in the smoker for a bit to roast them.

Pureed them with some garlic and some onion.

First batch of "sauce base" going into the freezer this morning.

Next up: Salsa with the Black Cherry Tomatoes and our freaking gigantic jalepenos (and onions, and garlic, and some of our rainbow peppers).


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on August 01, 2021, 04:54:40 PM
Those black cherry tomatoes are good.  I recently had a tomatillo tomato, tasted like a granny smith apple.  I've only had my cherry tomato producing.  Not a single tomato on my Better Boy.  It's blooming again.  Haven't checked at the garden but I don't think they are getting many tomatoes either.  I just pulled out my Tomato and Onion Soup with Rosemary recipe.  Guess I'm going to the produce stands this year.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on August 05, 2021, 11:19:12 PM
Paul saved me.  He had some tomatoes.  Made my tomato soup, good stuff.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: Mal Brossard on August 06, 2021, 08:47:57 AM
How do you cook eggplant?  I guess I have to try it.  Marsha threw the plants out the back of the greenhouse because they had bugs on them.  They laid out there about a week refusing to die so I planted them.  And they grew up to produce so I guess I'm obligated.  I'm going to give them a try but I really think Marsha should have to first.  :hihi:

Eggplant parm, man! Slice it, peel it, bread it, and fry it; add tomato sauce and cheese, eat it by itself or on a roll or atop pasta. I also like grilling it with a little olive oil and rosemary.

I don't grow anything myself anymore since it's tough to do in a one-bedroom apartment. But I used to grow chile peppers when I had a yard. I plan to again eventually. Right now my wife and I just have a few flowering plants in containers on our balcony. Her lantana is ridiculously huge.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: pilferk on August 06, 2021, 09:14:44 AM

Eggplant parm, man! Slice it, peel it, bread it, and fry it; add tomato sauce and cheese, eat it by itself or on a roll or atop pasta. I also like grilling it with a little olive oil and rosemary.

I don't grow anything myself anymore since it's tough to do in a one-bedroom apartment. But I used to grow chile peppers when I had a yard. I plan to again eventually. Right now my wife and I just have a few flowering plants in containers on our balcony. Her lantana is ridiculously huge.

Jalapenos seem to LOVE apartment balconies.  Just sayin'. ;)


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: Mal Brossard on August 06, 2021, 09:27:00 AM

Eggplant parm, man! Slice it, peel it, bread it, and fry it; add tomato sauce and cheese, eat it by itself or on a roll or atop pasta. I also like grilling it with a little olive oil and rosemary.

I don't grow anything myself anymore since it's tough to do in a one-bedroom apartment. But I used to grow chile peppers when I had a yard. I plan to again eventually. Right now my wife and I just have a few flowering plants in containers on our balcony. Her lantana is ridiculously huge.

Jalapenos seem to LOVE apartment balconies.  Just sayin'. ;)

They do, I had a plant a couple years ago here. But it's cheaper and easier just to buy them by the pound at the local Mexican grocery store haha. Back when I had space I tried a few habanero varieties, ajis, fataliis, even got a few out of my ghost pepper plant.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on August 07, 2021, 11:44:37 PM
Holy shit!  I got the biggest TV station in St Louis wanting to scout the gardens for a possible live weather location.  Got us in a magazine and now maybe on TV.  I only have one big goal left to go, get a partnership with the Missouri Botanical Gardens.  I want them to use our location to teach some of their classes.  I got a little inside information, their biggest participants in their classes come from the zip codes in my county. Why not use our gardens for some of their classes?


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on August 26, 2021, 05:16:01 PM
https://umsystem.zoom.us/rec/share/s0whwMtndExF2TZg-QBFnWYVftqFoe-i2A3W67m-WfCxResyGi6t7J_-QY1CN1ES.BZ4oKYZh1DKI29e8
Access Passcode: Produce1#

This is a really good class on how not to contaminate what you are growing in your garden and then putting in your mouth.  It's only available for a short time so if you are interested, don't put off watching it.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on August 29, 2021, 12:29:32 PM
They are called pole beans for a reason.  Grown them on a pole!  Probably wouldn't help my aching back anyway.  I'm beginning to think raised beds should be at about waist height.  Tomorrow I'm going to try the crawl along the ground method of harvesting.  :hihi:


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: pilferk on August 31, 2021, 08:52:15 AM
Our summer garden is pretty much done.  Tomatoes and Peppers still going strong.  But the various berries, cucumbers, and squash (after VERY LARGE HARVESTS!) are slowing down or are done.

We're starting our fall garden now.  More radishes and carrots, brassicas are coming back, and a fall pea crop that SHOULD just produce before first frost.

Our corn is almost done....most of it is about 13 feet high!

We've had TOO much water this year.  It's been a struggle keeping stuff dry and making sure there is enough air flow.  Tomato plants LOOK like hell, but keep pumping out fruit so....just a lot of pruning to be done.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on August 31, 2021, 01:32:46 PM
We have the same problem with tomatoes but we're not getting as much fruit.  Fall garden going in here too.

The garden did make the magazine.  We got a whole page with an ad.  Not really happy with the pictures but it turns out the guy who did the story is the editor for the magazine and the owner.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: pilferk on August 31, 2021, 03:44:25 PM
We have the same problem with tomatoes but we're not getting as much fruit.  Fall garden going in here too.

The garden did make the magazine.  We got a whole page with an ad.  Not really happy with the pictures but it turns out the guy who did the story is the editor for the magazine and the owner.

Congrats!!

We have about 20 tomato plants going.  I'm pulling probably 5 to 10 lbs of full sized tomatoes off every week, and 2 big colanders (at LEAST) of cherries.  WAY more than we could ever eat.  And they are STILL setting fruit toward their tops.

Thank god for water bath canning and a 2nd freezer (for sauce).  We've put up a ton of diced/chopped tomatoes and salsa so far.  We have about 10 gallon sized bags of sauce in the freezer.  We are gonna be SET for the winter! :)  I might have to start giving some away here, coming up quick.  Between pickles, squash, jalepenos, and the tomatoes...we are starting to run out of room on our canning shelves!




Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on August 31, 2021, 05:10:55 PM
Try making tomato soup.  I do this one:  https://www.motherearthnews.com/real-food/tomato-and-onion-soup-with-rosemary-recipe-zmaz08aszgoe  It's a nice summer soup, freezes well too.  Tastes better the second day.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on September 02, 2021, 02:03:32 PM
Turn on the hose full force.  Decide I can use a drink too.  Aim it right up my nose!  Damn that hurts.   :hihi:


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on September 05, 2021, 01:57:05 PM
Peppers and tomatoes are done.  They're out of here. 

It's nice to clean up some of this mess.  I throw everything out in the yard and then mulch it up with the mower.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: pilferk on September 08, 2021, 06:39:04 AM
Peppers and tomatoes are done.  They're out of here. 

It's nice to clean up some of this mess.  I throw everything out in the yard and then mulch it up with the mower.

Heh heh.....I took in another 5 or 6 pounds of full sized and 2 more colanders of cherries last night.  We're still pumping out.

Our pepper plants, too, still going. 

Different zone, for sure, and our temps are hanging in the upper 70s right now, so everything is happier.

I am now trying to figure out what to do with about 50 ears of corn....after already pulling about 30 out about 10 days ago.

Cukes are ALMOST done.  Probably a dozen more on the vines, but they're starting to die back.

Harvested our last sphaghetti squash Tuesday and we pulled the vines out yesterday afternoon.

Bush beans are up and starting to get big...spinach and some lettuces coming up quick.  The fall garden is taking shape!


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on September 09, 2021, 01:17:20 PM
Wow, you are really getting a lot out of the garden.  Did you just get that started in the last year?


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: pilferk on September 10, 2021, 06:17:37 AM
Wow, you are really getting a lot out of the garden.  Did you just get that started in the last year?

So, not really.

We've done ornamentals back there for years.  We did a few veggies (peppers and tomatoes) and herbs mixed in, too.  In 2019, we started doing more veggies. In 2020, we swapped to mostly veggies.  Then, this year (aka after November 2020), we did some hardcore infrastructure upgrades (cattle panel arches, a greenhouse for starts, etc) and have gone hard this year.  Even with all the rain, we've generated a ton of food! 


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on September 10, 2021, 08:43:12 AM
We're up to 2000 pounds of produce sent to the food pantry.  Tomatoes were shit this year. 

I'm tired!  Probably just the heat but somebody asked me when fall clean up was scheduled and my immediate thought was, fuck off, quit pushing me.   :hihi:  Lots left to do.  We don't wrap it up until November.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on September 11, 2021, 12:13:45 AM
We're having a lively discussion on lawns.  Yeah I know everything says do it in September but it's still getting into the 90's.  We've had no rain and none coming.  Leave the fucking grass alone.  Besides we decided all that fertilizer is not good for the environment.  Lack of weeks in your grass makes it a desert for native bugs; we need those.  You want to do something, find some native clover seed and get ready to throw some of that in there.  And stop mowing that.   :hihi: 

We need a whole different attitude to what a good lawn is.  People wonder why kids don't play outside any more.  There's nothing of interest out there.  Try to find a 4 leaf clover or a bug to torture.  You can't even find them on your windshield any more.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on September 13, 2021, 11:41:40 PM
One of our members from Vietnam says they put lemon grass around squash to keep away the squash bug.  We're trying it out.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: pilferk on September 15, 2021, 07:46:05 AM
One of our members from Vietnam says they put lemon grass around squash to keep away the squash bug.  We're trying it out.

We're having issues with something boring into our peppers.  Not the spicy stuff (jalepenos and serranos), but our green and reds have bore holes in them...and then they rot on the plant before they're mature.

Trying to figure out what is getting in there, and how to organically stop them.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on September 15, 2021, 02:51:01 PM
One of our members from Vietnam says they put lemon grass around squash to keep away the squash bug.  We're trying it out.

We're having issues with something boring into our peppers.  Not the spicy stuff (jalepenos and serranos), but our green and reds have bore holes in them...and then they rot on the plant before they're mature.

Trying to figure out what is getting in there, and how to organically stop them.

Google that question and put in your state.  That helps you scale it down to what bugs it might be in your area.  Look at the images of the damage to the plants.  I use soap and water a lot as a spray for bugs.  Hit the plant hard with the hose first to knock them off and spray the ground around the plant too with the soapy water.  Dawn has a million uses.  :hihi:


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on September 28, 2021, 06:34:23 PM
Geez, it's the end of September and we are still in the 90's.  No rain either.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on September 29, 2021, 02:58:51 PM
Got one!  Catching monarchs in a net is not as easy or graceful as it looks.   :hihi:    Took me 3 tries.  They kept escaping from the net before I could give it a little spin.  We were tagging monarchs on their way to Mexico.  They get a little piece of tape attached to their wing with a number.  They will let us know if the butterfly is found down there.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on September 30, 2021, 02:32:23 PM
We have a Bald Eagle!  We have lots of birds that visit our gardens.  Last year for the first time, we had a fly over by a Bald Eagle.  We've spotted one several times this week landing in the trees along our creek.  Good fishing there.  There is an eagle's nest within range of us.  I guess with all the construction in the fields east of us the eagle has moved its territory west to the field's by us.  Cool, I kind of like having an eagle over my head.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on October 02, 2021, 02:33:11 PM
We're getting ready to winterize the greenhouse next weekend.  Everything not permanently attached has to come out, get cleaned and sanitized before it goes back.  The inside gets sprayed down with bleach water.  We even vacuum up any soil spills.  Working on the little shit this week so we can get it bagged.  Hate closing up the greenhouse, growing season coming to an end.

We tried where you close it up and get the temp in the greenhouse up to 130 degrees for three days.  During the day, no problem but even running the heater at night, we couldn't keep the temperature up there.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on October 05, 2021, 04:24:09 PM
Makes me sad to drive by the medicine woman's house.  Some folks call it the witch's house.  I can see that from the look of the main house.  It looks like where a witch would live, a good witch.

I never met the medicine woman.  Her body gave out before I came along.  Micha had learned herbs from her in the vast herb gardens on the property.  What was left for me was the house and the greenhouses I would see on my way to and from work.  Slowly time took it over and it turned back into fields with crumbling greenhouses except for a new barn that looked out of place.  I stopped in once to help them sandbag during one of our major floods.  The little log cabin was still filled with her dried herbs and various things made from plants where she use to sell that stuff.  She was still alive but confined to the house at that time. 

The property got sold a while back.  They've been tearing the field's up since with trucks parked every where.  I'm not sure what business is going in there but when I drove by today, the cabin was gone.  I'm wondering what they did with the log cabin, one room school house.  It had been brought it to the property from some where west of here.  It was very old.   I hope they save it and moved it somewhere else.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on October 10, 2021, 11:04:23 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YxehIqY-t0  Really good presentation on Oaks by Doug Tallamy.  Never knew there were caterpillars living in trees in the dead of winter and birds were living off them.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on October 13, 2021, 12:53:25 AM
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Check this woman made out of plant material out.  I'm learning how to make these.


Title: Re: Gardening
Post by: cineater on October 15, 2021, 12:18:24 PM
That's it.  Lows go into the 40's tonight.  I'm busy bringing my house plants in.  It's not over yet.  I still have the plants I'll winter over that don't come in until we get to the killer frost coming.  I'm getting claustrophobic already.   :hihi: