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Title: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: Spirit on August 08, 2021, 01:15:08 PM
Doors: 5:00 PM
Mammoth WVH: 6:30 PM

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8SLXV-WQAgiTB0?format=jpg&name=medium)

Setlist:

It's So Easy
Mr. Brownstone
Chinese Democracy
Slither
Double Talkin' Jive
Welcome To The Jungle
Better
Estranged
Live And Let Die
You're Crazy
Rocket Queen
You Could Be Mine
I Wanna Be Your Dog
Absurd
Civil War
Slash Solo
Sweet Child O' Mine
November Rain
Knockin' On Heaven's Door
Nightrain
Patience
Paradise City


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: tim_m on August 08, 2021, 01:19:16 PM
Robocop poster awesome!


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: Ali on August 08, 2021, 01:29:59 PM
I hope that this isn't the last show of the tour, but with rising case counts, I would not be surprised.

Ali


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: duga on August 08, 2021, 01:55:19 PM
I hope that this isn't the last show of the tour, but with rising case counts, I would not be surprised.

Covid or court cases?


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: Ali on August 08, 2021, 02:40:13 PM
I hope that this isn't the last show of the tour, but with rising case counts, I would not be surprised.

Covid or court cases?
Covid. The US is well over 100k new cases a day again.

Ali


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: Spirit on August 08, 2021, 02:47:41 PM
I hope that this isn't the last show of the tour, but with rising case counts, I would not be surprised.

Covid or court cases?
Covid. The US is well over 100k new cases a day again.

Ali

How does it work over there, is it up to each state how to deal with it?


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: Ali on August 08, 2021, 02:56:32 PM
I hope that this isn't the last show of the tour, but with rising case counts, I would not be surprised.

Covid or court cases?
Covid. The US is well over 100k new cases a day again.

Ali

How does it work over there, is it up to each state how to deal with it?
Yes and no. States give guidance, but county health departments will set policy. Limp Bizkit just canceled shows, Tesla just postponed shows. Delta is spreading so fast that I think that there will be no choice but to cancel shows. I think counties like mine will lead the way.

This doesn't even address Australia. I believe Melbourne is still in lockdown.

Ali


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: Lotgrinder on August 08, 2021, 03:10:21 PM
Daily death counts are at 300-400 for the entire United States.

94% of deaths are people with 3+ "Comorbidities"....

Obesity, diabetes, hypertension, bad lungs from smoking, poor health + life choices.

The shows will go on.

If they don't, well, that's "Absurd."

I'll be there tonight with the "Where's Izzy" sign in the Main Floor G.A.

Just kidding about the Izzy sign. <3  :hihi:

 :peace:


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: Lotgrinder on August 08, 2021, 03:15:02 PM
Little something I wrote in my blog recently paying homage to my Grandmother Marge and Guns N Roses...


"You know, when I was a little kid. Probably around ten years old. I saw this Guns N Roses "Welcome To The Jungle" video and I just thought everything about it was so cool. You know, just the "I Don't Give A Fuck" attitude everyone in the band looked like they had, everyone looked so edgy, cool, and not too pussy ass glam which was the trend at the time, especially Axl Rose.

Anyway, I begged my Mom who cussed at me, smacked me, hit me (not too hard) all the time to buy me the fucking cassette tape at K-Mart. She said, "No. It has explicit lyrics." I remembered thinking, "What an illogical hypocritical bitch" at that young of an age, but kept my mouth shut. I knew there'd be consequences for talking back when I got home. And although I usually still spoke my mind. That time I didn't.

That weekend I went to my Grandmother Marge's, told her the story, then she took me up to slick disc in Trenton and asked the long haired manager guy Rob if the tape was too explicit or raunchy and he said "No." Then my Grandmother Marge said, "Ok Just, I'm going to buy it for you, because ain't nothing on that tape that your Mother hasn't ever said to you."

And that's the day I learned my Grandmother Marge was even more cool than anyone in Guns N Roses.

Soon after I'd learn my Grandmother Eda and Papa George were as well when they let me listen to it at there place all the time.

And I remember walking to Anderson elementary school in Trenton every day after for a year straight listening to that tape "Appetite For Destruction" thinking I was the coolest, smartest, most bad ass motherfucker on the planet.

And thirty years later, I still feel the same."

Can't wait for tonight!

And although I hope for a one time full AFD reunion, I'll take any GNR I can get, they were a huge influene on my attitude and life.

 :peace:


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: Ali on August 08, 2021, 03:23:21 PM
Daily death counts are at 300-400 for the entire United States.

94% of deaths are people with 3+ "Comorbidities"....

Obesity, diabetes, hypertension, bad lungs from smoking, poor health + life choices.

The shows will go on.

If they don't, well, that's "Absurd."

I'll be there tonight with the "Where's Izzy" sign in the Main Floor G.A.

Just kidding about the Izzy sign. <3  :hihi:

 :peace:
Daily deaths are going up, and are not the only metric.

Ali


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: alex_arg on August 08, 2021, 05:14:40 PM
https://www.wwltv.com/amp/article/news/local/jazz-fest-2021-cancelled-due-to-covid-concerns/289-c273844f-5773-4507-b666-c664fe85308b?__twitter_impression=true


There are more events cancelled. Covid is something very serious, for all people


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: rizzo160 on August 08, 2021, 05:33:16 PM
I wonder if the rest of the tour will be canceled? Cases are spiking in Maryland and Virginia :beer:


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: Ali on August 08, 2021, 06:09:25 PM
I wonder if the rest of the tour will be canceled? Cases are spiking in Maryland and Virginia :beer:
Very real possibility. As Alex pointed out, lots of shows being canceled.

Ali


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: Spirit on August 08, 2021, 06:11:42 PM
Limp Bizkit canceled their show 1 hour before it was supposed to start...


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: rebelhipi on August 08, 2021, 06:12:12 PM
Show time in 2 hours?


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: tim_m on August 08, 2021, 06:15:14 PM
Show time in 2 hours?
It's 6:15. So Mammouth should be going on shortly.


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: Spirit on August 08, 2021, 07:14:35 PM
GN'R should be on in about 45 mins


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: Spirit on August 08, 2021, 07:30:03 PM
My guess for tonight: they'll play both HS and Absurd.

I can see a release of a physical single (A and B side) with those two songs.

The setlist is seemingly set up to debut those two new songs on this tour.


Fenway setlist:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E78y1YiWYAEuW4I?format=jpg&name=medium)


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: GypsySoul on August 08, 2021, 08:02:41 PM
https://www.facebook.com/ovidioealdana/videos/4209988425761313



Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: Spirit on August 08, 2021, 08:07:11 PM
Does the stream work for you Gypsy? It freezes here..


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: rebelhipi on August 08, 2021, 08:07:41 PM
Does the stream work for you Gypsy? It freezes here..
Not working or me


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: Spirit on August 08, 2021, 08:08:16 PM
Setlist:

It's So Easy
Mr. Brownstone
Chinese Democracy
Slither
Double Talkin' Jive
Welcome To The Jungle


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: GypsySoul on August 08, 2021, 08:08:34 PM
Does the stream work for you Gypsy? It freezes here..

I believe the streamer just paused it until the band comes onstage



Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: Spirit on August 08, 2021, 08:09:14 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8TriYKWYAMzTA1?format=jpg&name=medium)


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: ice road trucker on August 08, 2021, 08:14:23 PM
NO STREAM


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: GypsySoul on August 08, 2021, 08:17:25 PM
https://www.facebook.com/dennyrobertblakewilliams/videos/575685940110232

https://www.instagram.com/meeganhodges/live/



Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: ice road trucker on August 08, 2021, 08:18:33 PM
NO LINKS


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: Spirit on August 08, 2021, 08:19:11 PM
https://www.facebook.com/dennyrobertblakewilliams/videos/575685940110232


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: ice road trucker on August 08, 2021, 08:23:17 PM
LINK FREEZES UP


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: cineater on August 08, 2021, 08:33:02 PM
https://www.facebook.com/trevoruren101/videos/352819119903501


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: GypsySoul on August 08, 2021, 08:36:06 PM
https://www.facebook.com/kamie.mandoka.5/videos/511329046593770

Sorry. The streams end faster than I can post them.



Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: Spirit on August 08, 2021, 08:47:35 PM
It's dead... no streams


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: ice road trucker on August 08, 2021, 08:47:42 PM
no links no news


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: Spirit on August 08, 2021, 08:49:10 PM
Jarmo, if you're on, could you give an update on the set?


Setlist:

It's So Easy
Mr. Brownstone
Chinese Democracy
Slither
Double Talkin' Jive
Welcome To The Jungle
Better
Estranged
Live And Let Die
You're Crazy


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: GypsySoul on August 08, 2021, 08:53:01 PM
https://www.facebook.com/danthemanleach/videos/543984270137236

https://www.facebook.com/maria.ann.3956/videos/269431717882094



Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: cineater on August 08, 2021, 08:54:12 PM
 :hihi:  The crowd at Green Day is have a blast signing along to Queen.  https://www.facebook.com/Dreamchi/videos/842335173063206


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: rebelhipi on August 08, 2021, 08:55:20 PM
https://www.facebook.com/219096931521015/videos/146082590940991


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: GypsySoul on August 08, 2021, 08:57:33 PM
From Jarmo:

It’s So Easy, Mr. Brownstone, Chinese Democracy, Slither, Double Talkin’ Jive, Rumble/Welcome To The Jungle, Better, Estranged, Live And Let Die,


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: Spirit on August 08, 2021, 08:58:25 PM
Thanks!


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: ice road trucker on August 08, 2021, 08:58:29 PM
cool thx


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: ice road trucker on August 08, 2021, 09:00:04 PM
link died


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: rebelhipi on August 08, 2021, 09:00:20 PM
From Jarmo:

It’s So Easy, Mr. Brownstone, Chinese Democracy, Slither, Double Talkin’ Jive, Rumble/Welcome To The Jungle, Better, Estranged, Live And Let Die,
Thanks!
Seems like You're Crazy was next


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: ice road trucker on August 08, 2021, 09:01:04 PM
why do links die so fast


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: Spirit on August 08, 2021, 09:02:13 PM
Setlist:

It's So Easy
Mr. Brownstone
Chinese Democracy
Slither
Double Talkin' Jive
Welcome To The Jungle
Better
Estranged
Live And Let Die
You're Crazy
Rocket Queen
You Could Be Mine
I Wanna Be Your Dog
Absurd
Civil War
Slash Solo
Sweet Child O' Mine
November Rain
Knockin' On Heaven's Door
Nightrain
Patience
Paradise City


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: cineater on August 08, 2021, 09:03:05 PM
Hate to run out on GNR but the Green Day concert just started and the links are good.  If you want to drop in https://www.facebook.com/Dreamchi/videos/842335173063206


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: GypsySoul on August 08, 2021, 09:14:36 PM
https://www.facebook.com/arturomont79/videos/2023056664513948


From Jarmo:
It’s So Easy, Mr. Brownstone, Chinese Democracy, Slither, Double Talkin’ Jive, Rumble/Welcome To The Jungle, Better, Estranged, Live And Let Die, You’re Crazy (slow version), Rocket Queen, You Could Be Mine, I Wanna Be Your Dog, Absurd, Civil War, Band Intros, Slash Solo/Sweet Child O' Mine, November Rain, Knockin' On Heaven's Door, Nightrain
Encore: Jam/Patience, Paradise City


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: alex_arg on August 08, 2021, 09:20:36 PM
YCBM is turning imposible to sing like he used to do. They should get out of the set


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: rizzo160 on August 08, 2021, 09:36:05 PM
Absurd is growing on me, the lyrics are still funky but the guitar solos are good. Looking forward to Hard School
 :beer:


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: axlroses on August 08, 2021, 09:37:07 PM
He said in tv interview with Eddie Trunk that YCBM is the most challenging to sing because of the vocal demands


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: cineater on August 08, 2021, 09:45:18 PM
Slash playing on his knees is pretty cool.


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: alex_arg on August 08, 2021, 09:46:18 PM
It is being a Great show again  :beer:  hope for hardschool

Am I the only one who get bored with wanna be your dog? jaja


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: cineater on August 08, 2021, 09:49:52 PM
It is being a Great show again  :beer:  hope for hardschool

Am I the only one who get bored with wanna be your dog? jaja

Don't care for that either but it's Detroit.  If they were going to play it any where, it had to be there.  Stooges is from there.


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: cineater on August 08, 2021, 09:53:22 PM
Wow, Slash looks like he's one with the guitar tonight.  Not just playing it.


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: cineater on August 08, 2021, 09:54:37 PM
https://www.facebook.com/chris.enright.980/videos/3954016844702616


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: Ali on August 08, 2021, 10:04:52 PM
Absurd is growing on me, the lyrics are still funky but the guitar solos are good. Looking forward to Hard School
 :beer:
I agree. Slash and Duff took a song I despised and made it decent.

Ali


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: cineater on August 08, 2021, 10:07:25 PM
https://www.facebook.com/kamie.mandoka.5/videos/4006527662790242


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: Spirit on August 08, 2021, 10:08:11 PM
https://www.facebook.com/trevoruren101/videos/998395734249432


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: GypsySoul on August 08, 2021, 10:19:38 PM
https://www.facebook.com/Chuckalkazian/videos/975916323257737



Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: alex_arg on August 08, 2021, 10:26:23 PM
No dead horse, its oka. shortest set. Lets see the encore


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: cineater on August 08, 2021, 10:29:31 PM
These have been some really good shows.  :D


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: axlroses on August 08, 2021, 10:31:41 PM
Funny when we say short set list.. For most bands would be extensive set list


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: alex_arg on August 08, 2021, 10:36:50 PM
Funny when we say short set list.. For most bands would be extensive set list
Shortest set if we compare GNR with GNR. we are talking about GNR here. Since this tour started, im saying they should do shortest set, 2 hour max, to
 preserve  Axl s voice


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: rebelhipi on August 08, 2021, 10:40:05 PM
Funny when we say short set list.. For most bands would be extensive set list
Shortest set if we compare GNR with GNR. we are talking about GNR here. Since this tour started, im saying they should do shortest set, 2 hour max, to
 preserve  Axl s voice
I say more is more.


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: alex_arg on August 08, 2021, 10:43:18 PM
Funny when we say short set list.. For most bands would be extensive set list
Shortest set if we compare GNR with GNR. we are talking about GNR here. Since this tour started, im saying they should do shortest set, 2 hour max, to
 preserve  Axl s voice
I say more is more.
Excuse me, i dont understand you, what do you mean with "more is more" + is +? im from Argentina, do you speak spanish?


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: Spirit on August 08, 2021, 10:49:23 PM
Anyone catch what Axl said before WTTJ? I just saw a shitty Twitter stream, no way to make out what he said.


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: Ali on August 08, 2021, 11:09:28 PM
Anyone catch what Axl said before WTTJ? I just saw a shitty Twitter stream, no way to make out what he said.
I only heard some reference to Slash's guitar issue.

IMO, that was Axl's cleanest WTTJ of the tour.

Ali


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: PermissionToLand on August 08, 2021, 11:17:10 PM
Daily death counts are at 300-400 for the entire United States. 

Missing the point there; we already have a new, more virulent mutation. The more it spreads, the worse it gets.

Quote
94% of deaths are people with 3+ "Comorbidities"....

Obesity, diabetes, hypertension, bad lungs from smoking, poor health + life choices.

And is that supposed to be exculpatory? That does not mean they would have died anyway. That does not make their lives less valuable.

I was pretty disappointed that at Metlife, there were no covid precautions at all besides a sign saying "don't come in if you've tested positive".


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: jarmo on August 08, 2021, 11:28:57 PM
Anyone catch what Axl said before WTTJ? I just saw a shitty Twitter stream, no way to make out what he said.

He talked about Rumble and it being the first power chord.




/jarmo


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: Ali on August 08, 2021, 11:52:43 PM
A pretty clean PC too.

Ali


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: D on August 09, 2021, 01:02:55 AM
Absurd is getting better and better each time


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: Ali on August 09, 2021, 01:09:45 AM
Absurd is getting better and better each time
Agreed. This was a good one.

Ali


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: rebelhipi on August 09, 2021, 06:55:31 AM
Funny when we say short set list.. For most bands would be extensive set list
Shortest set if we compare GNR with GNR. we are talking about GNR here. Since this tour started, im saying they should do shortest set, 2 hour max, to
 preserve  Axl s voice
I say more is more.
Excuse me, i dont understand you, what do you mean with "more is more" + is +? im from Argentina, do you speak spanish?
Its a play on the expression ''less is more''

What i meant with it is. More songs = More music = Good. :)


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on August 09, 2021, 08:22:22 AM
Funny when we say short set list.. For most bands would be extensive set list

Farthest thing from short you're gonna see

Maybe a bit repetitive but if you pay to go - you def get your $$$ worth


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: gnrrock on August 09, 2021, 09:45:45 AM
https://www.theoaklandpress.com/2021/08/09/review-gnr-wvh-rock-live-music-back-into-comerica-park


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: alex_arg on August 09, 2021, 10:05:43 AM

Its a play on the expression ''less is more''

What i meant with it is. More songs = More music = Good. :)

Thank you  :beer:

you are right!   just was thinking in Axl s voice


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: pilferk on August 10, 2021, 12:11:08 PM
94% of deaths are people with 3+ "Comorbidities"....

I would LOVE to know your source for that data.

I'm assuming it's this study (because it's the one that's been touted in conservative news sources...but maybe not):

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-82862-5

which, as part of it's peer review, has been noted to not have nearly enough subjects to form any sort of conclusion about overall percentages in terms of comorbidity presence (it's based on 26 patients).  It has also been noted as part of peer review that, since the median age of the patients in the study was 70 years old, the presence of 3+ comorbids is considered an average presentation within that age group.  Without providing a comparable exception population, you can not assume comorbids were a contributing factor.  There is no valid conclusion, statistically speaking, you can draw from the data in this study.  The p values don't support it.

But even so, the study itself says it best:

Quote
Our findings reveal that causes of death were directly related to COVID-19 in the majority of decedents, while they appear not to be an immediate result of preexisting health conditions and comorbidities. We therefore suggest that the majority of patients had died of COVID-19 with only contributory implications of preexisting health conditions to the mechanism of death.


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: cineater on August 10, 2021, 12:41:54 PM
I don't think we'll see any shut out/closure type things until they see if they can keep the kids in school.  I think that's the priority, get the kids in school so the parents can go back to work.  If they can't keep the kids in school then I think there will be more restrictions to try to get the outbreaks under control.


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: pilferk on August 10, 2021, 12:54:50 PM
I don't think we'll see any shut out/closure type things until they see if they can keep the kids in school.  I think that's the priority, get the kids in school so the parents can go back to work.  If they can't keep the kids in school then I think there will be more restrictions to try to get the outbreaks under control.

As long as the vast majority of the infections, hospitalizations, and mortalities are amongst the unvaccinated, I suspect you will not see much in the way of complete lockdowns.

I think you will see mask mandates return (where they are not illegal).

I think you may see things  like "proof of vaccination or a negative covid test within the past 3 days" spring up at businesses and venues where they can (aka states where such mandates aren't illegal).

I think you will see more and more employers require vaccination.

But I would be surprised to see full on lockdowns unless things get much, much, much worse (and start to involve the vaccinated/another variant).



Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: D-GenerationX on August 10, 2021, 02:03:45 PM
Return to full blown lockdowns will be a tough sell.

This time, not just people, but perhaps even store owners say "yeah, fuck that" and flout it.  They'd probably face threats of fines and license suspensions.  But can you arrest everybody?


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: NaturalLight on August 10, 2021, 04:13:21 PM
Return to full blown lockdowns will be a tough sell.

This time, not just people, but perhaps even store owners say "yeah, fuck that" and flout it.  They'd probably face threats of fines and license suspensions.  But can you arrest everybody?

Haha no. Not unless you're on an airplane and they have to pull that sucker over.


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: PermissionToLand on August 10, 2021, 11:14:50 PM
Return to full blown lockdowns will be a tough sell.

This time, not just people, but perhaps even store owners say "yeah, fuck that" and flout it.  They'd probably face threats of fines and license suspensions.  But can you arrest everybody?

Return? We never did a full blown lockdown in the first place. That's why we're where we are now.


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: Axlspants on August 11, 2021, 11:03:41 AM
Ive noticed the usual suspects critising Axl vox but I've seen some YouTube videos from in front of the stage and I think he's killing it on this tour. I've been mega impressed with Jungle in particular. Its also really nice to see him smiling so much. I've never met him so its weird to want a complete stranger to be happy but you know, he changed my life so I'll always have his back. Can't wait to see them next year when they come to the UK.


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: russkwtx on August 11, 2021, 12:45:15 PM
Of course he is smiling. He’s making millions playing songs that are 35 years old.  :rofl: :hihi:


Title: Re: Updates: August 8th, 2021 Detroit, MI @ Comerica Park
Post by: tormented on August 20, 2021, 06:04:44 AM
Keep going back to this show, it was amazing



Ive noticed the usual suspects critising Axl vox but I've seen some YouTube videos from in front of the stage and I think he's killing it on this tour. I've been mega impressed with Jungle in particular. Its also really nice to see him smiling so much. I've never met him so its weird to want a complete stranger to be happy but you know, he changed my life so I'll always have his back. Can't wait to see them next year when they come to the UK.

Exactly! There are always going to be critcs and people sitting at home that will find anything to complain about. My uncle has always had doubts about Axl to the bad press and the criticisms about his voice the last few years but enjoyed the show immensely and more than once voiced that he was shocked how surprised he was that they were so good