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Title: official release date for EP
Post by: dsaddler78 on September 25, 2021, 11:01:48 PM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/guns-n-roses-to-release-hard-skool-four-song-ep-in-february/


Title: Re: official release date for EP
Post by: dsaddler78 on September 25, 2021, 11:02:25 PM
February 25th 2022 it is.


Title: Re: official release date for EP
Post by: cineater on September 26, 2021, 12:51:59 AM
They have to be dealing with labor and part shortages like everybody else.

Okay, who started the rumor there was going to be another toilet paper shortage?   :hihi:


Title: Re: official release date for EP
Post by: dsaddler78 on September 26, 2021, 01:13:50 AM
They have to be dealing with labor and part shortages like everybody else.

Okay, who started the rumor there was going to be another toilet paper shortage?   :hihi:
I'm not sure....to me it just seems like this is to long to wait to release the EP.Why not strike while the iron is hot? Hard Skool is awesome and everyone I have played it for loves it. Waiting 5 months would kill momentum, no????


Title: Re: official release date for EP
Post by: troccoli on September 26, 2021, 01:40:07 AM
They have to be dealing with labor and part shortages like everybody else.

Okay, who started the rumor there was going to be another toilet paper shortage?   :hihi:
I'm not sure....to me it just seems like this is to long to wait to release the EP.Why not strike while the iron is hot? Hard Skool is awesome and everyone I have played it for loves it. Waiting 5 months would kill momentum, no????

You are quoting the answer to your own question.  Labor shortages, supply chain issues, it affects everyone, not just Costco and supermarkets.


Title: Re: official release date for EP
Post by: sworrm on September 26, 2021, 03:55:41 AM
EP ? Ffs is this serious? A load of covers and Hard skool and Absurd ? I thought this was a hoax no ?


Title: Re: official release date for EP
Post by: sworrm on September 26, 2021, 04:01:34 AM
EP ? Ffs is this serious? A load of covers and Hard skool and Absurd ? I thought this was a hoax no ?
Sorry I’ve just read what is on the EP , no covers . How exciting 😩😴😴😴.


Title: Re: official release date for EP
Post by: thomas on September 26, 2021, 11:12:46 AM
i like this going get the album when it comes out


Title: Re: official release date for EP
Post by: ITARocker on September 26, 2021, 11:46:02 AM
They have to be dealing with labor and part shortages like everybody else.

Okay, who started the rumor there was going to be another toilet paper shortage?   :hihi:
I'm not sure....to me it just seems like this is to long to wait to release the EP.Why not strike while the iron is hot? Hard Skool is awesome and everyone I have played it for loves it. Waiting 5 months would kill momentum, no????
like this never happened before… :rofl: :rofl: Enjoy the 2 songs man, you gonna be waiting a long


Title: Re: official release date for EP
Post by: jarmo on September 26, 2021, 12:23:44 PM
Sorry I’ve just read what is on the EP , no covers . How exciting 😩😴😴😴.


So you have the song to listen to as much as you want on streaming services.

Then, if you're a collector or just want a physical release, you can get it on tape, CD or vinyl.


Not exciting enough? Just enjoy the song.



/jarmo


Title: Re: official release date for EP
Post by: thomas on September 26, 2021, 12:34:28 PM
Sorry I’ve just read what is on the EP , no covers . How exciting 😩😴😴😴.


So you have the song to listen to as much as you want on streaming services.

Then, if you're a collector or just want a physical release, you can get it on tape, CD or vinyl.


Not exciting enough? Just enjoy the song.



/jarmo


i agree some people will never be happy they wanting a new album and they got one coming out feb 25 and they are still not happy ::)


Title: Re: official release date for EP
Post by: DeN on September 26, 2021, 03:48:46 PM


OK I'm a bit confused here, maybe I'm the only one so I have some questions. is this
new EP *is* the new GNR record? (meaning, no LP).

and if no, since it will be out in february, does it means that a future LP will be out
(months) *after* february 2022? thanks to anyone who could clarifying that to me.


Title: Re: official release date for EP
Post by: jarmo on September 26, 2021, 03:59:13 PM
I think the EP is an EP with the two songs they have released so far plus some bonus tracks.

How does that relate to any future releases? No idea.


Some people were asking for new music, and they got it....



/jarmo


Title: Re: official release date for EP
Post by: PermissionToLand on September 26, 2021, 06:15:46 PM


OK I'm a bit confused here, maybe I'm the only one so I have some questions. is this
new EP *is* the new GNR record? (meaning, no LP).

and if no, since it will be out in february, does it means that a future LP will be out
(months) *after* february 2022? thanks to anyone who could clarifying that to me.

No, this is not replacing the LP, and yes, of course if it will take until February to get the needed raw materials due to shortages, there is no way an LP could come out before then. If they could announce, produce, promote and distribute an LP before February, why would the EP take that long?


Title: Re: official release date for EP
Post by: Derick on September 26, 2021, 07:00:05 PM
IDK...It seems to me that this delay between the single's digital release and vinyl release is associated with a problem in vinyl production. This problem has affected the music industry and is delaying releases. The plastics industry, also used in the production of CDs and cassettes, has also suffered from the effects of the pandemic...

“Release dates going back and back. Box sets getting postponed by a year. Physical albums arriving months after their digital release. Rumours of pressing plant meltdowns… COVID-19 was bound to have an effect on the release of albums. But the pandemic has brought home a crisis in the music industry, and that is, quite simply, the fact that there aren’t enough pressing plants to cope with the demand for vinyl.“...


https://superdeluxeedition.com/feature/a-pressing-issue-how-the-vinyl-revival-has-caught-out-the-music-industry-during-the-pandemic/


Title: Re: official release date for EP
Post by: JDA on September 26, 2021, 07:21:51 PM
Wow, so much momentum and opportunity to knock it out of the park with this EP and what a big shit turd. Don’t Cry and Your Crazy?  Other than us who were around in the 80s and 90s, who cares?  Put two more new ones out, don’t even think about putting out 30 yr old songs or shit covers.  Damnit, right when I think things have changed.  Dud.


Title: Re: official release date for EP
Post by: kyrie on September 26, 2021, 07:33:14 PM
Wow, so much momentum and opportunity to knock it out of the park with this EP and what a big shit turd. Don’t Cry and Your Crazy?  Other than us who were around in the 80s and 90s, who cares?  Put two more new ones out, don’t even think about putting out 30 yr old songs or shit covers.  Damnit, right when I think things have changed.  Dud.

Seriously? It's basically a single with bonus tracks. November Rain, Don't Cry, Yesterdays all had similar releases.

Some people will never be satisfied


Title: Re: official release date for EP
Post by: PermissionToLand on September 26, 2021, 08:09:33 PM
what a big shit turd.

 who cares? 

30 year old shit

Dud.

Don't be so hard on yourself, brother.  : ok:


Title: Re: official release date for EP
Post by: LunsJail on September 26, 2021, 11:04:52 PM
I like Hard Skool and Absurd and I’m glad to hear them. But this announcement confirms there was never a new album in the works and probably won’t be.


Title: Re: official release date for EP
Post by: (t) on September 26, 2021, 11:25:52 PM
Why can't an EP be a precursor to an LP? I've been a skeptic about the prospects of a new album but I see this release as a good sign.


Title: Re: official release date for EP
Post by: dsaddler78 on September 27, 2021, 12:16:16 AM
I like Hard Skool and Absurd and I’m glad to hear them. But this announcement confirms there was never a new album in the works and probably won’t be.
That is my fear also. Hopefully we are wrong


Title: Re: official release date for EP
Post by: DeN on September 27, 2021, 06:57:19 AM
I think the EP is an EP with the two songs they have released so far plus some bonus tracks.

How does that relate to any future releases? No idea.


Some people were asking for new music, and they got it....



/jarmo



and I'm glad to have some new music, thanks for clarifying  : ok:


Title: Re: official release date for EP
Post by: C0ma on September 27, 2021, 09:16:51 AM
This is a band that, while a long time a go in a galaxy far far away, has leaned on EP's to fill gaps. There is LLAS, LIES, even the Live From the Jungle (Japan Release).

Everyone also has to get used to the fact that digital is the way to distribute music today, that is only amplified by things like labor and materials shortages. things like this EP are aimed at the collectors of vinyl (and oddly cassette). Digital Streaming outpaces physical media and even digital purchases via iTunes by 10:1 as it relates to industry dollars. Not saying an album isn't coming, but the band can sit at the top of "singles" charts and keep eyes on their tour by dropping a song every 6-8 weeks, then make a physical release with things like live tracks and covers... then rinse and repeat.

I also wouldn't discount a Use Your Illusion package in the future... that certainly must be directly impacted by shortages.


Title: Re: official release date for EP
Post by: GunnerJohn73 on September 27, 2021, 03:32:32 PM
Sorry I’ve just read what is on the EP , no covers . How exciting 😩😴😴😴.


So you have the song to listen to as much as you want on streaming services.

Then, if you're a collector or just want a physical release, you can get it on tape, CD or vinyl.


Not exciting enough? Just enjoy the song.



/jarmo


Exciting enough for me, ordered all 3.


Title: Re: official release date for EP
Post by: chad_er33 on September 27, 2021, 08:11:23 PM
I am happy for new material, but wanted something created by Axl, Slash and Duff. Not songs written years ago by others with these guys just playing on.


Title: Re: official release date for EP
Post by: Bridge on September 27, 2021, 09:23:22 PM
I am happy for new material, but wanted something created by Axl, Slash and Duff. Not songs written years ago by others with these guys just playing on.

Hopefully this is just a stepping stone....


Title: Re: official release date for EP
Post by: PermissionToLand on September 28, 2021, 01:03:11 AM
But this announcement confirms there was never a new album in the works and probably won’t be.

What a ridiculous thing to say. This comment confirms that you have no clue what the word "confirms" means.


Title: Re: official release date for EP
Post by: dsaddler78 on September 28, 2021, 01:05:10 AM
But this announcement confirms there was never a new album in the works and probably won’t be.

What a ridiculous thing to say. This comment confirms that you have no clue what the word "confirms" means.
reckless speculation :rofl:


Title: Re: official release date for EP
Post by: PermissionToLand on September 28, 2021, 01:06:36 AM
I am happy for new material, but wanted something created by Axl, Slash and Duff. Not songs written years ago by others with these guys just playing on.

We know from the demo that Slash (or maybe Duff or Richard but it sounds like a Slash idea) wrote the part behind the solo and after that, the melodic part, plus the build-up at the end. Rocket Queen was written for Road Crew before Slash was even in Guns, and merged with another song (the outro). It's literally the way they have always written music for their entire career.


Title: Re: official release date for EP
Post by: shaundix on September 28, 2021, 06:09:33 AM
Has anybody noticed that gnrmerch.com now lists the shipping date for the vinyl as June 24 2022?


Title: Re: official release date for EP
Post by: D-GenerationX on September 28, 2021, 03:19:28 PM
I assume that the physical copy of the single is more for the hardcore completists among us. 

Hence the delay on its shipping being small potatoes.


Title: Re: official release date for EP
Post by: Derick on September 28, 2021, 04:20:49 PM
I am happy for new material, but wanted something created by Axl, Slash and Duff. Not songs written years ago by others with these guys just playing on.

We know from the demo that Slash (or maybe Duff or Richard but it sounds like a Slash idea) wrote the part behind the solo and after that, the melodic part, plus the build-up at the end. Rocket Queen was written for Road Crew before Slash was even in Guns, and merged with another song (the outro). It's literally the way they have always written music for their entire career.
Wasn't it Duff who mentioned in a 1996 interview (Howard Stern) that they were working on a song for a Jackie Chan movie?


Title: Re: official release date for EP
Post by: PermissionToLand on September 28, 2021, 05:25:57 PM
Wasn't it Duff who mentioned in a 1996 interview (Howard Stern) that they were working on a song for a Jackie Chan movie?

Yes, but I don't believe that it's the the same song. Slash writes around riffs whereas this song is built around chord changes. I say either it's what they continued writing for the Chan movie after Slash left, or if it is the same song, it was written by Paul Huge or something. But I find that very hard to believe, that Axl would want to start again right back where they left off on horrible terms. I think it's most likely a coincidence or simply what the lineup post-Slash came up with for the movie before it fell through.


Title: Re: official release date for EP
Post by: rizzo160 on September 28, 2021, 08:16:54 PM
Just so happy to get new music. :beer:


Title: Re: official release date for EP
Post by: Sillything on October 01, 2021, 06:25:45 AM
This is not the "EP" is it ??? I mean it´s the Hard Skool cd single? Like a traditional 12" Maxi- single?: Hard Skool, Absurd, Don´t Cry (Live), Youré Crazy (Live). I love it as it is. It's perfect! I only wish there could be 12" vinyl for this.

I've read somewhere a different rumour for an EP titled "GNFNR" including: Hard Skool, Absurd and the covers of Wichita Lineman and Black Hole Sun. Anyone got info on that?


Title: Re: official release date for EP
Post by: rebelhipi on October 01, 2021, 06:43:25 AM
This is not the "EP" is it ??? I mean it´s the Hard Skool cd single? Like a traditional 12" Maxi- single?: Hard Skool, Absurd, Don´t Cry (Live), Youré Crazy (Live). I love it as it is. It's perfect! I only wish there could be 12" vinyl for this.

I've read somewhere a different rumour for an EP titled "GNFNR" including: Hard Skool, Absurd and the covers of Wichita Lineman and Black Hole Sun. Anyone got info on that?
I think Fernando said on reddit that its fake.


Title: Re: official release date for EP
Post by: GNR4LIFEJD on October 01, 2021, 09:51:28 AM
So here is what i don't get. I understand there is a segment of GNR fandom that doesn't look kindly on the Chinese Democracy Era cuz it wasn't the original members who were a part of it. But i think its unfair to Axl who has put years into all the music that was either on Chinese Democracy and whatever did not make it onto that album. This is also why the leaks from years ago kinda killed any momentum these songs could have had. I think we could be getting alot of new material and yes it might be technically older stuff axl did years ago but shouldn't he be allowed to put out the music he has created who cares who initially made it. Embrace what comes out i mean the last 5 years have been the best run GNR has had since the early 90 s. We could always go back to the 95-00 & 02-08 years of absolutely nothing going on.


Title: Re: official release date for EP
Post by: bicycle handgrenade on October 03, 2021, 12:10:11 PM
since it will be out in february, does it means that a future LP will be out (months) *after* february 2022? thanks to anyone who could clarifying that to me.

Seems unlikely, but anything is possible. GNR is generally pretty mysterious, so the future is difficult to predict.



Title: Re: official release date for EP
Post by: DeN on November 16, 2021, 07:36:58 AM


yeah, I'm used to it since 1989...I just hope we'll have a final/new LP before I die  :hihi: