Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Gary Clark Jr on in 15min.
GNR in 1h45mins.

Its super hot 33c.

I saw a photo of Frank with a cast on his right hand. Anyone can confirm?

No idea

Well its Franks drumkit on stage now.

Popcorn Adler!!!!!

What!?!? For real?

Ali

No

It’s So Easy, Mr. Brownstone, Chinese Democracy, Rumble/Welcome To The Jungle, Slither, Better, Walk All Over You, Estranged, Live And Let Die, Double Talkin’ Jive, Reckless Life, You Could Be Mine, I Wanna Be Your Dog, Absurd,


Oh, and Frank is on drums.



/jarmo

Thanks for the update with the setlist.

Rocket Queen, Hard Skool, Civil War, Slash Guitar Solo, Sweet Child O' Mine, November Rain, You're Crazy, Witchita Lineman, Knocking On Heaven's Door, Nightrain

Encore:
Street Of Dreams, Coma, Patience, Don't Cry

https://www.facebook.com/oyunbold.battur/videos/573129374233368

https://www.facebook.com/david.beran.315/videos/376174804580174
https://www.facebook.com/oyunbold.battur/videos/986347122079832

https://www.facebook.com/tomas.krejci.5458/videos/751992649169530
https://www.facebook.com/oyunbold.battur/videos/566917371622181

Street Of Dreams

First song in the encore



/jarmo

Wow! First time in 10 years?

hope there's a video of it tomorrow!

Did Dizzy get a birthday shout out?

Thanks!

You're welcome - it seems the show ends with Patience, Don't Cry & Paradise City  :peace:

Setlist: It’s So Easy, Mr. Brownstone, Chinese Democracy, Rumble/Welcome To The Jungle, Slither, Better, Walk All Over You, Estranged, Live And Let Die, Double Talkin’ Jive, Reckless Life, You Could Be Mine, I Wanna Be Your Dog, Absurd, Rocket Queen, Hard Skool, Civil War/Machine Gun (outro), Band Intros/Happy Birthday Dizzy, Slash Solo, Sweet Child O' Mine, November Rain, You’re Crazy (fast version), Wichita Lineman, Only Women Bleed (intro)/Knockin' On Heaven's Door, Nightrain

Encore: Street Of Dreams, Coma, Blackbird/Patience, Don’t Cry, Paradise City





/jarmo

What a gig! 3h13mins

First of all im a drummer and i didnt see any weakness on Frank's playing. Wouldnt have known he broke his arm/fingers if i didnt read it here.

The crowd was really good. Singing ect. I think the band saw that it was a better than average crowd and gave the energy back to us.

Walk All Over You was played again. I was there the both times its been played and i love it. As a big AC/DC fan i can say they killed it.

Frank was calling out which song to play on a few occasions. Maybe has to do with his injury.

I hope the crowd would give more love to Absurd and Hard Skool. Allthought the crowd was great i could tell many didnt knew those songs.

Axl talked about the hypocrisy of Putin before the band introductions. Which was very good to see imo.

I CAUGHT RICHARDS PICK after November Rain  :smoking:

STREET OF DREAMS i was sooo happy to hear it again. Like many  Chinese songs the Slashed up solo felt weird the first time hearing it but it was great. My only complaint after Lisbon was that there were only two Chinese songs. Now i think it was the perfect show. So thank you GN'R gods. ;D

Axl sounded amazing. He nailed Better and was jumping like crazy on the bridge like on the good old days!

My girlfriend was really happy too after seeing them the first time!

Some videos:

Paradise   https://www.facebook.com/nina.hreskova/videos/1192858518182583
Sweet Child  https://www.facebook.com/100062801990392/videos/1043280023221949
Reckless  https://www.facebook.com/100062801990392/videos/776900770167941

Here's Street of Dreams. Richard nailed the second section of solo and Slash winged it as usual lol.

Axl sounded a bit ruff at times but overall I thought he did well. It's nice to see a new Guns song added.
 Here's the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFku9wAMxWM

Thank you for that.  Love that song.

Amazing show! Fantastic! Killer performance by all! Gnfnr forever!!!!!

Good to hear street of dreams (the blues  ;D) my favorite song of chinese. I dont understand why Slash play the solo in that way, there are songs that the solo must be played very closed to the original, this i love is another example. Richard did the second part perfect.

I agree 100%. I defended Slash when other musicians weren't playing his parts the way we've all become accustomed to. But it's a 2 way street as far as I'm concerned. I remember watching a video of Slash and Don Fedler from the Eagles play Hotel California. He played it perfectly, there's was no over the top noodling or crazy runs.   

Slash is more than capable of learning the CD solos, but it seems with a lot of them he just improvises. I find his random soloing takes away from the flow and rhythm of the song.

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Axl looks ripped  8)

I'm glad i waited 2 years for the show to happen after vouchers and cancelled flights.The best GN'R show of the 8 times i saw the band live.Everyone was on fire and Axl in funny mood.
Btw ,Jarmo my friend thanks you many times for the guitar pick !  :)

Just drove back from Prague... I don't know if I am a lucky charm or are all the other complainers just trolls  :rofl:
This was my fifth GnR concert and once again it was AMAZING! :peace:
I was in the fan pit, singing all the songs like a nerd  ;D (hope my singing didn't ruin the show for anyone else)
Axl was on fire!!!!
Last time I was standing way back, but this time it was in front of the stage, when Axl's voice blends in with the guitars and all the other instruments it sounds perfect!
I don't know whether it was the mixing or something else, but surprisingly Slash didn't sound all that well in the first part of the concert... at least from my position.. Unlike Fortus who is always amazing.
Coma was f...ing awsome! The bass was unbelievable in the front! I was jumping like crazy but so was Axl :rofl:
Double talking jive is sooooooo good live!
The band seemed so pleased with the crowd! As a result they gave it their best... I times I could see Axl was really content with his performance... he should be, he really really did great...
The band was constantly laughing at Axl's internal jokes... He was constantly playing with the band pulling tricks on the piano and also vocally.
I was surprised with the setlist... the first part is kind of hardcore the songs are fast, hard and loud for a non die-hard fan. Later it mellows up a bit.
As Axl says: I don't know if any of you heard, but we put out two new songs, here is the softer one! Absurd :rofl:
Once again I really suggest everyone to go and see the show! I think I coud listen to them every single day! :beer:
p.s. there was a happy birthday song Dizzy Frank

Good to hear there was a birthday song.

Hmm, looks like Axl has a girl's diamond in his ear.  I don't remember that.  The smile on his face?

I was exactly like you.  In 2002, when the first "NuGNR" lineup played the old songs wrong, I rabidly defended Slash against the many, many, many people (yes, that many!) on this forum who claimed the new members were just "making the songs their own".  Whether it was Buckethead's 100MPH speed shred of the final "Paradise City" solo, or Robin Finck's massacre of the "November Rain" solos, I fought an uphill battle defending their original forms.

Understandably, Slash is unlikely to face anywhere near the criticism of the old hired Guns, but for those of us who love the few Chinese Democracy songs that are played today, there is certainly no reason Slash can't play them as they were originally recorded.

I've always found it exciting that Slash and Duff play Chinese Democracy songs live -- it gives us the only glimpse we'll ever have into what could've been.

 : ok:


What a great show on a hot day that was.



/jarmo

I just want to add that I was blown away by Absurd live!!! I thought it would be way too difficult to sing it live, but Axl really did an amazing job : ok:

On that note, the set list was challenging vocally... Chinese Democracy, Rumble/Welcome To The Jungle, Slither, Better, Walk All Over You, a kind of a break then Reckless Life, You Could Be Mine and then in the encore: Street Of Dreams, Coma

Axl sang the first part of the gig in the lower register... it sounded really cool!

Slash sounds bad cause his guitar sound is dry as fuck (Listen for example to SCOM), i think we already talked about that somewhere. Never understood his choice.

There was some talk somewhere... in 2018 he sounded really good. I'm not competent to judge...
I'm not sure if it is a matter of where you are standing (depending on the sound), the mix (whether the channel is amplified enough), the mood of the musician, or the setting of the guitar.

Appreciate the Slash comment was around the mix and the sound/volume but Slash's tone at the moment and last few years is just horrible. Just doesn't sound like Slash or even quite right. Not sure why he's sticking with it or what's going on. He's playing really killer it's just the sounds odd...might be just me

Axl's looking good these days. He's definitely fitter.

I was watching this PC clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrOb2yw-i0M and I noticed Axl's wearing a t-shirt that reminded me of Taylor Hawkins tattoo. It turns out, it is.

When he turns around – at the 45" mark – you can see on the back of the shirt the letters TH (Taylor Hawkins) mimicking the Foo Fighters logo. That's pretty cool.

I wonder if Axl or any of the GNR family will be invited to perform in any of the Taylor Hawkins tribute shows this September. I looked at the dates and GNR will be in South America. Seems like they will not  :'(

Slash sounds like he is playing a completely different song.

Slash's tone is fine. Unless he changed the hardware he used, why would his tone change?

Ali

Btw ,Frank did the 3+ hour show with a hand injury. more than remarkable fact.
Plus, during Slither Axl pointed smiling at someone in the first row. I pissed myself and wondered throughout the show what he might have liked on me or made fun of !  ???
In any case, being a fanboy that was my moment.

Because he does use different amps over the years and you can change settings on your amp...

He very definitely went for a cleaner tone after he sobered up in 2001, ironically. Watch him playing with Snakepit versus nowadays, he's way cleaner now, and like somebody else said, way more dry. The dryness ruins the intro to Paradise City completely. It sounds so flat.

This solo is what I think of when I think of the classic Slash tone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TrCiDvjgdY

Not to mention how much more melodic he was back then. Listen to that outro solo. Incredible.

I think I counted six or seven different guitars, with different equipment... which suggests he is searching for the tone that suits him at the moment...
Most of the guitars seem the same or similar as in 2018 where he really sounded amazing.
I can understand if he wants to put his signature on the CD songs but the classics for example the solo in NR didn't sound very well from where I was standing...
Let me also get this straight, overall the show was amazing, I am just commenting and comparing the small details

Then again, when I hear it on you tube most of it sounds fine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xptOwPKqOg

I remember that moment  ;D :rofl: , I even think it was in the 4:15 mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS1TQSXmf2Q

I thought it was intended for people that just stand in the fan pit with a serious face, without any movement :rofl:
There was this guy which was obviously making company to his girlfriend... he had those rave glasses on,just stood there without making a single gesture, like those security guys ???
Like I said earlier, every person has his own energy and things that move him... but I am under the impression that northern European are a little less enthusiastic about showing their emotions... In the south its a little more wild, a little more hacuna matata way of life :smoking:

You are talking about a change post-2001. I don't think that he's changed his tone significantly since rejoining GN'R.

Ali

His tone hasn't sounded right since long before the reunion if you ask me.

The clean tone makes every little mistake stand out, and kills sustain. It's especially obvious with songs like November Rain because the long, slow bends require fairly high gain to have enough sustain. It also sounds weird as hell with heavier riffing like CD or the stuff he does with Myles. It's really baffling how he thinks it sounds good.

And that's not even mentioning how he goes out of tempo all the time these days. Bad enough Axl does it. Now Dizzy fucks up his tempo in Estranged... the whole band needs to tighten up honestly. I love these guys but they boggle my mind with what they'll let slide sometimes.

I agree. That first comment only said "the last few years" and I took that to mean "post-reunion".

seeing them live 3 times since the reunion, Slash's tone sounds fine to me when in the room... are you all referring to videos? or like in the room? Because live it sounds absolutely fine to me as a player.

Thanks for clarifying that. I never comprehended what is wrong having a clean tone...


The sound of the whole band on videos compared to the sound live is completely different... On the video I hear just part of the sound

it doesnt matter if the recording is poor:

example of poor recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtewfeoQY34

min 5:26


if u are a guitar player u know the sound is dry as fuck even if u don't hear it well cause the problems he's having in playing that lick come mainly from the lack of proper effects.

In the room everything sounds better because it's all blending together more, and maybe also because your ears are more able to pick up subtle room reverb.

But regardless, Slash's lack of gain is evident in person as well. I think it may be masked a bit by the sheer volume distorting things.

I mean, nobody ever argued this distinction between recordings and in person on the UYI tour when his tone was at its peak (IMO). He sounds great on every soundboard from that tour.

It's very obvious when you look at him doing fast runs with ease and every note resonating well in Paris 1992:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hj5CWWtNgM

Versus fast runs today where you barely hear the individual notes resonate over the noise of the picking and he seems to struggle with it more because of that:

(4:25) (5:21)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jwNNkN-kqY

Many of the notes barely sound at all. The cleaner your tone is, the less you can glide over notes with light hammering and pulling off. There's a reason shredders use high gain. That's why it's so bass-ackwards that as Slash has ventured more towards shredding, his tone has gotten cleaner.

Dizzy said on his Instagram that this was one of their best gigs. Being in the audience I hope it reflects his true sentiments as I feel the same. So touched and moved to brink of tears of this performance.

I feel it too that it was truly one of their best gigs ever or at least from 2016-era

There was something clicking just right.

I'm reliving it whit own short chips from my phone and from Youtube where it just keps on coming   it's all Prauge Prauge Prauge

Its like the holy grail of gigs.

Now im thinking of spending more money on going to Hanover or Vienna. Or just enjoy the high of this gig and see them next whenever they will come back to Europe.

Now, with all the talk about the concert, it seems I really had the luck of attending some of the best concerts... Let me rephrase, all the five concerts I have been to were great. :peace:
I hope that all the concerts are as good... I too am thinking of visiting Vienna, but I am sure they will do another European tour in a year or so... On the other hand my idols aren't getting any younger... neither am I :hihi:

Once more, thanks for all the guitar comments...I really love music but I know nothing about gain, distortion, etc.
Yesterday I went back and listened to the Paris concert from 92' again. The amount of energy on stage and in the crowd is amazing... the band was younger, but so was the crowd I suppose  :hihi:
I still admire the energy on stage now days... High but a little bit more sophisticated :rofl: We have got 60 year old people jumping around, playing 3h+ concerts every other day... I would not blame them if they were to return to old drug habits :smoking:
And the rants! I like when rock stars go around speaking their mind off. It reminds me of the punk attitude they had in the 80/90ies. But there is a big risk of the rant coming back and biting them in the arse if they say something that is a bit naive...
The Putin rant was of course widely accepted, but with all the media control I am not sure anyone has the right information to wisely comment on the whole dreadful situation :peace: 

People who aren't 60 have a great time of telling the people who are 60 what they are capable of.   :hihi:  They have some image in their head of what it's like to be a certain age.  Ignoring what they see people those ages doing and just keep trying to put you back in that rocking chair.  In the meantime, you have your 60 year old's looking at the younger ages wondering what the fuck is wrong with their work ethic.  I'm out here working circles around them while they're telling me I can't do it and they aren't even offering to help!   :hihi:  I get a big kick out of it, the younger folks are going to hear the same thing when they get there and know they said the same thing coming up.  I did, oh how wrong you can be. 

Live the dream but it ain't going to be what you think when you get into it.

Maybe consider that its not about "work ethic" or "laziness" but rather a different worldview that puts enjoying your short time here on earth over working for 80% of your waking life, for someone else's profit...

Actually, I'm not employed any more and was thinking about people's off time.  But when it comes to employment, no one should be expected to run at full speed the whole day or work lots of overtime.  People have the option of being self employed if they have the attitude they don't want to work for someone else's profit.  It's not that easy, you better be a go getter and I, personally wasn't willing to work that hard.  It's right to enjoy your life but don't expect anyone to carry you.  I'm all for people doing what they want, just stop telling me I can't because of age or all those other things one gets limited on because of who they are.

A bit arrogant I think…some would say it’s an entitlement issue.

Sorry….got beat to the punch!

I say live and learn.   :hihi:  I'm not telling anybody else how to live, I expect the same.  Do I look at younger folks and think you have some hard lessons to learn?  Yes, been there, done that.  Had the same thoughts.  :hihi:  Did I think old and limit my expectations or pigeon holed them?  Yes, I did.  I've lived and learned.  :D

Well said! But its not only the age difference... I think in general when you have a person working much harder or being much more efficient than others, their coworkers, family, friends or whatever, will criticize him/her how he works way to hard, instead of taking on some of the burden...
But then again, those "less" hard working might have other priorities, other than work, which is also fine... as long as they don't moan about YOU being too occupied for your own good :hihi:   
I am glad we have supermen/superwomen who neglect what they "should be doing" at their age, and are doing what they feel they should be doing despite their age... setting examples, such as our favorite rock band, Valentino Rossi, Roger Federer, etc. some of you guys here... are showing what people can achieve if they still have the drive and the energy to continue doing what they love doing, despite their age!    :beer:

Hi, Mr Strawman. But you'll collect that SS check, right? While the young are carrying the bill.


Indeed, arrogance in making all kinds of baseless assumptions about people instead of trying to learn why they think differently. Instead, dismissing anyone you disagree with as "entitled". How lazy is that?


Yeah, like telling people what their "work ethic" should be. You'd never do that.

Ms Strawman thank you.  I paid into the program to get that SS check.  My employer based my salary partly on what they paid into the program on my behalf.  No idea how much I could have earned in interest or did better investing over a period of 44 years with that money.  I can't leave the unused amount to inheritance either.  My participation in the program is based on payments that were made to the program for me.  You are paying into your own account not mine. 

How my money got managed in those years was not up to me.  The program was modified without my consent concerning when I could draw out my funds.  And the program may not be able to perform as it was initially explained to me when I was forced into it.  But for right now, I don't care where the money comes from, they owe it to me because I paid in and we had a deal.  That's the way I see it.

I don't tell people what their work ethic should be.  I think stuff and talk about people behind their backs.   :hihi: 

That is not how SS works. You do not have an "account" at all. The current working population funds the benefits of the current retired population. SS is not a savings account. If that were the case, it would not have started paying out benefits until decades after it was created.


It was managed and modified by elected officials you were able to vote in and out of office. It is also guaranteed, unlike the market which could crash right as you go to retire. You have far more control over SS than you do over the stock market.

Ooookay if you guys want to argue the benefits and drawbacks of the US' Social Security system I suggest you take it to the off topic section.

Didn't say it was a savings account.  It's more like an investment to me.  And I do have an account with a number.  They want that number every time I call.  My payment is based on what I paid in.  We don't all get the same amount.

Most of the current money paying out does come out of the current payroll deductions but I see it as getting the money they took out of my pay checks back.  I think it was a good, although forced, investment of the money.  I didn't complain about it when they took the money and I have no problem with how it is paying out. 

I can understand how you might be upset by having to pay it now, feeling like you're paying for it, when they are saying it may not be there for you when you want to retire.  But I paid for it back then and I see it as getting my money back and the investment paying off.  If I get caught up in some social security reduction, I'm not going to blame people for not working enough or demand they raise the tax to cover it.  I'm just going to say fuck, that investment didn't pay off.

I don't see my vote as the ability to control things.  Good thing because I don't have the answer to every problem.

Totally agree and I've done my two rebuttals.  Sorry I didn't see your post first.  I'm done.

I never said I was upset paying into it. I think it's a necessary social program. And it will be there for me unless it's eliminated legislatively, it just may be paying out 80% of the benefits instead. The narrative about it going bankrupt is just partisan fear mongering.

Anyway, that's all I wanted to say.

No new songs in June, maybe in July.    :beer:

Perhaps in August

When does this tour end ? It seems to me, they won't be releasing anything until then. The logical thing was to release something right before and that didn't  happen so...  :-\

It took a show before “Absurd” was released during the 2021 tour in the U.S., right? Later in the U.S. tour, “Hard Skool” was released.

I’m holding a glimmer of hope for a new single timed around the London shows. I know I shouldn’t but what can ya do  :hihi: