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 on: Today at 10:11:31 AM 
Started by Spirit - Last post by Voodoochild
I didn't mind Chinese Democracy intro. But I agree, it should be a separate track.

There's no problem in being a layred and complex (not in structural terms). If the mix is good, nobody would mind. The biggest problem is because people KNOW how the band sound like before and KNOW how many guitar players and drummers and keyboards are on the track so they judge because of that. Speakin only about the sound itself, IMO the biggest problem is the lack of punch. The sub-bass alone could not help in this case because the mix and the sound are not as warm or loose as the AFD, for example.

Andy Wallace's mix sounded much better in my opinion. And I don't like the lack of consistency with the guitars - Bumblefoot can be heard on the right and left speaker througout the album, even switching sides on Chinese Democracy. Makes it even harder to identify the guitar player and the sound signature of the band.

on the other hand, if I remember correctly, the 2006 version suffers from "loudness war" and the mastering is better at newer versions, which is of course a good thing.
The 2006 versions were just demos, not mastered. Probably because the person who recorded the original CD and transcoded to mp3 did a shitty job (of course, I don't know what the guy had to do).

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 on: Today at 10:06:07 AM 
Started by gcluskey - Last post by Lord Stan
Does anyone know when the Guns N Roses plane will arrive at Dublin airport?  Is there a way that I can see it? 

Ask the girls at the airport information. It's probably not a big secret there is a plane arriving. Could of course be so that a private plane is exactly that and no information is given.

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 on: Today at 08:38:41 AM 
Started by Spirit - Last post by zombux
I also think that the intro part is completely killing the title track. it is okay to listen to, but it should have been a separate track, not integral part of the song.
I also prefer the 2006 leaked demo, which sounds more raw and punchy, compared to the later leaks and album version.
not trying to say I hate the additional Bumblefoot guitar licks (nice ones) or Frank's drumming (honestly I don't care who plays drums... I can't hear much difference either).
it just feels different, and the 2007+ versions sound a bit polished and the original power of the 2006 demo is buried under new layers, a bit.
on the other hand, if I remember correctly, the 2006 version suffers from "loudness war" and the mastering is better at newer versions, which is of course a good thing.

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 on: Today at 08:37:55 AM 
Started by Classic Case - Last post by allwaystired
I think some of you read too much into everyhting. "Axl gave Richard a gift -> Izzy must be on board."  Smiley

I believe that Izzy is not coming back (at least permanently, maybe for an afd reunion show and that's it). He has always been the most enigmatic from them all for me. He left GN'R on his own will when they were at their PEAK turning down the chance to make millions of bucks.  And although he has been the one closest to Axl all those years he didn't want to take part in NILT. I don't know the reasons and no one really knows but I think it is safe to assume that Izzy doesn't want to be involved in GNR since '91. 

We do know his reasons. He wasn't offered enough money.

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 on: Today at 08:32:48 AM 
Started by Classic Case - Last post by Natalie
I think some of you read too much into everyhting. "Axl gave Richard a gift -> Izzy must be on board."  Smiley

I believe that Izzy is not coming back (at least permanently, maybe for an afd reunion show and that's it). He has always been the most enigmatic from them all for me. He left GN'R on his own will when they were at their PEAK turning down the chance to make millions of bucks.  And although he has been the one closest to Axl all those years he didn't want to take part in NILT. I don't know the reasons and no one really knows but I think it is safe to assume that Izzy doesn't want to be involved in GNR since '91. 

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 on: Today at 07:41:17 AM 
Started by Spirit - Last post by Conan


I don't get these kind of comments. What exactly was "overcomplicated" about the album version? In fact, I hear a few keyboard parts that didn't make the final version. Hardly anything was even different, as far as I can tell.

Not even the minute or so long intro before we hear the first riff on the album's title track for what is afterall, nothing more than a four minute (barely) long song?

It's almost like we are being trolled about how long a new GNR album of original songs took to make and how little original material we got during that time...

Same goes for the defensive guard that goes up every time Axl is asked openly about new material...


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 on: Today at 05:31:06 AM 
Started by gcluskey - Last post by allwaystired
Does anyone know when the Guns N Roses plane will arrive at Dublin airport?  Is there a way that I can see it? 

A couple of days before the gig I expect. You could try going to the airport and just having a look around?

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 on: Today at 04:56:11 AM 
Started by gcluskey - Last post by jacdaniel
Does anyone know when the Guns N Roses plane will arrive at Dublin airport?  Is there a way that I can see it? 

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 on: Yesterday at 05:42:52 PM 
Started by Classic Case - Last post by bolton
My Apettite lineup will play all 12 songs in front of 500000 people

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 on: Yesterday at 05:26:49 PM 
Started by allwaystired - Last post by begsy
 It's been too long since I posted here .just wanted to point out that some of this interview has been misinterpreted I messaged bumble asking questions about the interview and he didn't feel like the interview represented what he actually said .

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