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 on: Today at 05:00:30 PM 
Started by chineseblues - Last post by cineater
Are we still supposed to let packages coming into the house sit for a while?

Later guidance said probably not. Virus cant live on packaging surfaces for more than a couple hours, max. If its a direct from amazon delivery...because it was likely packaged recently...maybe put it in the garage for an hour or two. Wash your hands after handling the package...and dont, you know, lick it...and you should be fine. Wink

Will do.  Never occured to me to lick it but now that you mention it, I may never look at the Amazon guys the same way again.  Wink

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 on: Today at 03:59:34 PM 
Started by chineseblues - Last post by pilferk
Are we still supposed to let packages coming into the house sit for a while?

Later guidance said probably not. Virus cant live on packaging surfaces for more than a couple hours, max. If its a direct from amazon delivery...because it was likely packaged recently...maybe put it in the garage for an hour or two. Wash your hands after handling the package...and dont, you know, lick it...and you should be fine. Wink

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 on: Today at 03:34:06 PM 
Started by chineseblues - Last post by cineater
Are we still supposed to let packages coming into the house sit for a while?

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 on: Today at 03:11:05 PM 
Started by uzisuicide2002 - Last post by Executioner
Well... lol didnít know that. Itís cool to see this show finally!!
I hadn't seen it before it was a really strange time in GnR history without Slash,Izzy, Duff and Sorum/Adler it was difficult to get your head around the new line-up after the huge impact the band had created in the late 80s early 90s .

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 on: Today at 12:36:33 PM 
Started by chineseblues - Last post by cineater
Good news, try it on them first.  Grin  But why can they speed up the approval process and the FDA isn't even talking about it until the 10th?

Read back.  I explained why.

The process is legally codified.  The FDA have to follow it.

Other sovereign nations have different processes.  

Yeah I remember, "the process".  What part of the process did the FDA expedited, speed up, to meet this crisis?  Did they work evenings and weekends?  Do some preliminary reviews of the data so they'd have a head start when the request for approval came in?  I'm sure there's nothing in the law that prevents them from busting butt like so many others have done knowing lives are on the line.

But there actually is.  The expedited process has a pretty specific timeline codified in it.  They have to do specific things, in a specific order, and there are specific durations for some of those phases (like review and comment).

They can't pre-review study data until it's submitted, which is part of the application process.  You can't study data you don't have (and aren't supposed to have because it's not final).

They have literally gone and are going as fast as the law allows them to.  Three weeks from submissions for emergency approval is INSANELY fast in terms of FDA approval, and is pretty much as fast as Emergency Use applications can be performed.

Feel free to argue that the law and process are too lengthy. I won't disagree.  You'll have to take that up with the largely Republican influenced legislation that governs it.

But the answer to your question is: The codified process for the FDA, for Emergency Use Applications, carries with it a very specific process and durations that pretty much mean 3 weeks is about as quick as they can turn around a vaccine approval.

Other countries have different processes that allow them to work more quickly.

I've been part of those government processes, hence the anger.  The process excuse is something we said to the outside but it didn't mean people on the inside weren't having a full blown bitch fest about it.  hihi  Something like this will change the process in the long run.  Don't worry about the legislation, they aren't looking at how it's actually done.  Their worry is how to protect themselves from lawsuits and the cost.  You just have to troubleshoot through all their concerns and it will fly.  They like to look like they have made improvements.

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 on: Today at 12:00:22 PM 
Started by uzisuicide2002 - Last post by sky dog
This is the very first show for the new band....kinda cool.  Smiley

 7 
 on: Today at 11:02:18 AM 
Started by uzisuicide2002 - Last post by NaturalLight
You're probably thinking of The Joint, which was also in Vegas but at the very end of the year. That hasn't seen the light of day AFAIK.

I might be. It was the first show the band did. Either way, very cool to see this.

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 on: Today at 10:19:21 AM 
Started by Malcolm - Last post by Malcolm
Not really clothing. Anything cool. Autographs, rare items, vegas, canada, box sets, picks, mic, etc.

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 on: Today at 10:01:45 AM 
Started by Tmac2020 - Last post by Tmac2020
Hoping Slash gets together with the pit for a bunch of one offs
Blues ball as well

Slash may make 4 new records in 2021

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 on: Today at 07:46:04 AM 
Started by chineseblues - Last post by pilferk
Good news, try it on them first.  Grin  But why can they speed up the approval process and the FDA isn't even talking about it until the 10th?

Read back.  I explained why.

The process is legally codified.  The FDA have to follow it.

Other sovereign nations have different processes.  

Yeah I remember, "the process".  What part of the process did the FDA expedited, speed up, to meet this crisis?  Did they work evenings and weekends?  Do some preliminary reviews of the data so they'd have a head start when the request for approval came in?  I'm sure there's nothing in the law that prevents them from busting butt like so many others have done knowing lives are on the line.

But there actually is.  The expedited process has a pretty specific timeline codified in it.  They have to do specific things, in a specific order, and there are specific durations for some of those phases (like review and comment).

They can't pre-review study data until it's submitted, which is part of the application process.  You can't study data you don't have (and aren't supposed to have because it's not final).

They have literally gone and are going as fast as the law allows them to.  Three weeks from submissions for emergency approval is INSANELY fast in terms of FDA approval, and is pretty much as fast as Emergency Use applications can be performed.

Feel free to argue that the law and process are too lengthy. I won't disagree.  You'll have to take that up with the largely Republican influenced legislation that governs it.

But the answer to your question is: The codified process for the FDA, for Emergency Use Applications, carries with it a very specific process and durations that pretty much mean 3 weeks is about as quick as they can turn around a vaccine approval.

Other countries have different processes that allow them to work more quickly.

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