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 21 
 on: October 20, 2020, 03:03:22 PM 
Started by alcapone_dudu - Last post by alcapone_dudu
New song: ''Pistoleiro Dimas''.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MwEjGswd6w

 22 
 on: October 20, 2020, 02:58:54 PM 
Started by chineseblues - Last post by pilferk

I think the biggest risk is it just won't work.  I don't remember any vaccines causing major problems although you have those people saying their kids were normal until they got their childhood shots and that wasn't proven.  I'll get the vaccine but still be cautious until the results comes in from the bigger results of lots of people having been vaccinated.


Sooooo...it's happened.  The Cutter vaccine exposed THOUSANDS of kids to live polio virus.  It was a pretty nasty scandal and, to be honest, one of the basis for the antivax movement.

I'm not trying to scare anyone, but this is a "full cards on the table" moment.  I think we've got this handled, at least on the Moderno and Pfizer sides.

And, in my opinion (though I'm admittedly biased), I think the Pfizer approach to the vaccine is a safer one. 

We'll see!

 23 
 on: October 20, 2020, 01:07:34 PM 
Started by chineseblues - Last post by COMAMOTIVE

I just hadn't heard any state / governor get so specific as if it's pending is all.
Very possible I just missed it
Also very possible that Cuomo loves the sound of his own voice


A BUNCH of states, including CT, MA, and RI have had pressers over the past week with their detailed plans.  Lamont, during his presser, made sure to clarify a few times this wasn't because there was an imminent vaccine.  It was because the fed gave them a due date for their homework assignment and this was them complying.

Thank you

 24 
 on: October 20, 2020, 12:01:31 PM 
Started by jarmo - Last post by slash&axl
I would love one of these, might start saving up Grin

 25 
 on: October 20, 2020, 10:29:37 AM 
Started by GypsySoul - Last post by cineater
Oh, I get it.

I'm just puzzled by this myth that he's somehow a man of the people, just a regular working man.

He's part of a rich elite that doesn't have to worry about things ordinary people worry about.


Yet he's promised to drain the swamp etc..... He hired his family to work at the White House. Like it's suddenly a royal palace (or worse)... It's all very ironic.





/jarmo


No, man of the people is Biden.  Trump has always portrayed himself as a rich business man who just keeps getting richer because he's so good at business.  He has ran with the swamp because they wanted his money and he wanted favors.  There's a lot of politicians not talking.  Dare say, if you look back over who contributed to their campaigns and who might contribute in the future to get favors for their business the name Trump would probably be there.  Nobody asks about that.  Or how all these politicians get so rich when their salaries aren't that great.

Have you seen the movie the swamp on HBO? That explains a lot of it. A large part of it goes back to the early 90s when Newt Gingrich was speaker of the house.

Nope but I read Keith Richards' book.  hihi  How they got out of a drug bust back in the 60's in Arkansas and allowed in the country is exactly how it works.  This kind of thing has been business practice for a long time.  You really have to wonder about the Trump/Christie connection.  I'm not saying it's all bad.  Connections really help move things along but there's a darkside you can get sucked into real quick.

 26 
 on: October 20, 2020, 10:18:00 AM 
Started by chineseblues - Last post by cineater
I know you work in the medical field and may be privy to information that you can't share with us, but i am still skeptical that they can ensure its safety and efficacy that quickly. I hope i am wrong of course. The sooner the better and we can get back to as close to normal as possible hopefully by the end of next year.

I can't speak for Moderno, but Pfizer has followed Phase III trial protocols just like any other drug trial.  From the numbers I've seen...so far, so good.  As I've said right along, I think we're looking at VERY late November or early December for completion.  Then FDA approval.  Then distribution I'm thinking sometime in January to at risk, then healthcare and front line, and then everyone else by spring. 

FYI: The part that's being done "fast" is FDA approval.  That process has been overly long for a LONG time, tied up in red tape.  I'm not saying THIS way is better.....but we have to find a happy medium in this country.  Other countries are much faster, and still maintain safety and efficacy standards.

I totally get the reservations.  But when the science comes out, and gets reviewed, I think that will help. 

Yep, i mean if scientists like Dr. Fauci come out and say this is absolutely safe i will be satisfied. I do trust him.

I think the biggest risk is it just won't work.  I don't remember any vaccines causing major problems although you have those people saying their kids were normal until they got their childhood shots and that wasn't proven.  I'll get the vaccine but still be cautious until the results comes in from the bigger results of lots of people having been vaccinated.

 27 
 on: October 20, 2020, 10:09:35 AM 
Started by jarmo - Last post by cineater
I noticed it's a world wide map so it might work for outside of the US.  I found a handful of machines out there.  There's no tips list yet.  Eventually somebody will post a video tutorial.  Feel like I'm getting sucked into this secret little world.   Cheesy

I did find out that multi-multiball is 6 balls.  That gave me a panic attack.  hihi

 28 
 on: October 20, 2020, 07:05:14 AM 
Started by chineseblues - Last post by tim_m
I know you work in the medical field and may be privy to information that you can't share with us, but i am still skeptical that they can ensure its safety and efficacy that quickly. I hope i am wrong of course. The sooner the better and we can get back to as close to normal as possible hopefully by the end of next year.

I can't speak for Moderno, but Pfizer has followed Phase III trial protocols just like any other drug trial.  From the numbers I've seen...so far, so good.  As I've said right along, I think we're looking at VERY late November or early December for completion.  Then FDA approval.  Then distribution I'm thinking sometime in January to at risk, then healthcare and front line, and then everyone else by spring. 

FYI: The part that's being done "fast" is FDA approval.  That process has been overly long for a LONG time, tied up in red tape.  I'm not saying THIS way is better.....but we have to find a happy medium in this country.  Other countries are much faster, and still maintain safety and efficacy standards.

I totally get the reservations.  But when the science comes out, and gets reviewed, I think that will help. 

Yep, i mean if scientists like Dr. Fauci come out and say this is absolutely safe i will be satisfied. I do trust him.

 29 
 on: October 20, 2020, 06:55:49 AM 
Started by chineseblues - Last post by pilferk
I know you work in the medical field and may be privy to information that you can't share with us, but i am still skeptical that they can ensure its safety and efficacy that quickly. I hope i am wrong of course. The sooner the better and we can get back to as close to normal as possible hopefully by the end of next year.

I can't speak for Moderno, but Pfizer has followed Phase III trial protocols just like any other drug trial.  From the numbers I've seen...so far, so good.  As I've said right along, I think we're looking at VERY late November or early December for completion.  Then FDA approval.  Then distribution I'm thinking sometime in January to at risk, then healthcare and front line, and then everyone else by spring. 

FYI: The part that's being done "fast" is FDA approval.  That process has been overly long for a LONG time, tied up in red tape.  I'm not saying THIS way is better.....but we have to find a happy medium in this country.  Other countries are much faster, and still maintain safety and efficacy standards.

I totally get the reservations.  But when the science comes out, and gets reviewed, I think that will help. 

 30 
 on: October 20, 2020, 06:48:38 AM 
Started by chineseblues - Last post by pilferk

I just hadn't heard any state / governor get so specific as if it's pending is all.
Very possible I just missed it
Also very possible that Cuomo loves the sound of his own voice


A BUNCH of states, including CT, MA, and RI have had pressers over the past week with their detailed plans.  Lamont, during his presser, made sure to clarify a few times this wasn't because there was an imminent vaccine.  It was because the fed gave them a due date for their homework assignment and this was them complying.

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