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What publicity did he ever do that talked about his new band, included his new bandmates along side of him, put over how great they were?

He didn't.  Bottom line.

This was going to take some real heavy lifting to give these guys the best chance to be accepted.  He didn't want to grab his end of the couch.

His call.  But we can't just make shit up about how much time and effort he allegedly put towards that goal when he simply did not.

What exactly were you expecting him to do? When he had people like you against him. We know you think you're always right. Why would he bother trying to change your mind with interviews? They played shows. You could buy a ticket and either enjoy it for what it was, or don't. Many of us did.

No interview in the world could've change the fact that some didn't accept the band as GN'R. Simple as that.




/jarmo

I thought the live version has a cool punk feel to it.

Exactly.

It's So Easy wasn't exactly the biggest hit on AFD. Yet it was the first single.




/jarmo

Would loved to have caught a mic after all the shows I have been to.  As one who always knew it was coming I am sure there are many who don’t.  That leaves them feeling like the band does when someone throws something at them on stage.  Different intent but when you don’t know something is coming I would hate to be hit with a mic. 

25 year fan.
Guns n Roses changed my life.
Not hyperbole.

They are why I sing.
They’re why I’m in radio.
Why I love music.

For 25 years,
They’ve been my favorite band.
Never a question.

Appetite? Obsessed.
Years waiting for “Illusion”?
Interminable.

And worth it. No doubt.
Now, here is the blasphemy.
Ears open? Ready?

Favorite album?
It’s “Chinese Democracy”.
No hesitation.

I‘m a hardcore fan
If ever one existed.
Never been cheated,

Misled, or lied to.
I’ve gotten what I’ve paid for…
Far more, honestly.

The band is the band.
And they don’t owe us a thing.
Not one goddamn thing.

Splash

/Mike

It's ok for GNR to be a job, but it would be cool if it was also still a creative outlet.

The era that you are embarrassed by had some of the best shows I’ve ever seen by the band. Albany 02, MSG 02(20 years ago today I believe) the Hammerstein shows in 2006 were all great moments in the bands history.  Big fan of Chinese Democracy as well.

Know what are good shows?  I just gave one of them a play, just last week.

Those 4 far east shows in December 2009.  Really, really solid.

On of these days, god willing, you will realize that a guy that flies on the plane and sits on the side of stage has a somewhat different take than the rest of the class.

No one expects you to bite the hand the feeds.  But try and keep some perspective here, guy.

Just because you're surrounded by people who agree with you, doesn't mean the whole world outside your bubble is the same.



/jarmo

Hey look, Jarmo...there goes the point.

On of these days, god willing, you will realize that a guy that flies on the plane and sits on the side of stage has a somewhat different take than the rest of the class.

No one expects you to bite the hand the feeds.  But try and keep some perspective here, guy.

I also don’t ride on the plane or sit on the side of the stage(unfortunately haha)  but I largely agree with Jarmo over the years when it comes to this subject.

The era that you are embarrassed by had some of the best shows I’ve ever seen by the band. Albany 02, MSG 02(20 years ago today I believe) the Hammerstein shows in 2006 , Ritz 2012, were all great moments in the bands history.  Big fan of Chinese Democracy as well.

I’ve been a fan for 30 years, the Illusions and that line up will always be my favorite era of the band.  When Slash and Duff came back I flew out to Vegas for it ( something I’ve never come close to doing for any other band ) so I understand your passion for a particular era, but there are a lot of great moments over the years that I wouldn’t dismiss so easily.  

They toured the world for years. Saying they did nothing is just plain wrong.

The difference is that there wasn't one line up. It changed multiple times between 2000 and 2014.

What publicity did he ever do that talked about his new band, included his new bandmates along side of him, put over how great they were?

He didn't.  Bottom line.

This was going to take some real heavy lifting to give these guys the best chance to be accepted.  He didn't want to grab his end of the couch.

His call.  But we can't just make shit up about how much time and effort he allegedly put towards that goal when he simply did not.

Some things are more of a cash grab than others, though.

The KISS coffin (seriously...it's a thing) that's a cash grab.

Musicians plying their trade live is not a cash grab.  It's the job.