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 91 
 on: October 25, 2020, 01:43:37 AM 
Started by GypsySoul - Last post by GypsySoul
This is what I'm used to:

You get an envelope in the mail with the paperwork you need to bring to vote. Also included is information on how to.

Depending on the election, you can vote in advance by taking the paperwork and ID to the advance voting place. If you choose, you can also vote on election day.


When I vote in the Finnish elections, it's the same deal. I get an envelope and it also includes the dates and places where I can vote here in Sweden (the dates usually fall on weekends. This is advance voting because it's abroad).


But yeah, not very difficult. You just gotta bring the paperwork and ID to the right place on the right date.

/jarmo
Yeah, we don't have any of that. Does that include a ballot?  Do you have automatic registration in either Sweden or Finland? Is voting mandatory?

I don't remember ever registering. So I assume it's automatic for anyone who is old enough to vote, can vote.

Voting isn't mandatory.


It's not rocket science. If you're 18, you can vote..... Smiley


/jarmo

Not sure what tim_m is talking about but what you (jarmo) described is basically how it normally works in the USA. Actually, it's easier than what you describe because here you can request an "absentee ballot" even if you live in the same place where you would vote in person, or if you're living in another state or living outside the USA or if you're in the military, etc., and you just mail it in. As long as it's postmarked by midnight of election day, it's counted. If choose to vote in person, normally you get your sample ballot through the mail that lists the location of where you are to vote. There they match your signature/ID to your signature/ID on file and then you vote by whatever method is available there.

The "controversy" this year is that everyone received a mail-in ballot and each state has a different process to verify (or not verify) the authenticity of the person's identity. Also, how and when the votes are counted is another controversial aspect to this year's voting process that is decided by each individual state. Some states have early in-person voting, some do not.
 
You (jarmo) probably forgot that you had to have registered to vote at some point in time because how else would they have your address to mail you the paperwork and voting location/instructions?

Voting is not mandatory. It's not rocket science. If you're 18, you can vote..... Smiley

 92 
 on: October 24, 2020, 07:19:18 PM 
Started by GypsySoul - Last post by COMAMOTIVE
Yeah, we don't have any of that. Does that include a ballot?  Do you have automatic registration in either Sweden or Finland? Is voting mandatory?

I don't remember ever registering. So I assume it's automatic for anyone who is old enough to vote, can vote.

Voting isn't mandatory.


It's not rocket science. If you're 18, you can vote..... Smiley





/jarmo


This is simplicity and this is refreshing
Again - doesn't have to be that hard.
American childeren have been born into a world where a chunk of their earnings - even at their first jobs - are just gone
They accept it as reality
Voting should be as simple as the damn taxes removed


 93 
 on: October 24, 2020, 05:24:12 PM 
Started by GypsySoul - Last post by jarmo
Yeah, we don't have any of that. Does that include a ballot?  Do you have automatic registration in either Sweden or Finland? Is voting mandatory?

I don't remember ever registering. So I assume it's automatic for anyone who is old enough to vote, can vote.

Voting isn't mandatory.


It's not rocket science. If you're 18, you can vote..... Smiley





/jarmo

 94 
 on: October 24, 2020, 03:04:06 PM 
Started by GypsySoul - Last post by PermissionToLand
Feds say far-right group coordinated attack on Minneapolis police precinct during protest

https://thehill.com/homenews/news/522509-feds-say-far-right-group-coordinated-attack-on-minneapolis-police-precinct

 95 
 on: October 24, 2020, 02:59:44 PM 
Started by GypsySoul - Last post by PermissionToLand
What we could do, is tell our corporations that if they want to keep operating in America, all of their foreign factories must meet US emissions standards.


Kinda like products made elsewhere, but sold in country X or region Y, they must adhere to the safety regulations in said place.

California did something like that decades ago. If you were a car manufacturer and you wanted to sell your cars there, you had to make sure they would pass the tough California regulations regarding exhausts. Which in turn meant most cars were better in that regard than they otherwise would've been...

At least until trump revoked CA's waiver to set their own standards. Which was created because their unique topography tends to trap emissions. And that's not the first time he's literally withheld life saving measures from entire states because they didn't vote for him.

Question for all Americans here, how do you feel about the voting system?

Is it too easy to vote? Everyone's cheating? Do you think your system for voting is the best in the world, and an example of how it should be in a democracy?

It can never be too easy to vote. Cheating/fraud is a non-issue; it's been studied to death and always ends up being a rounding error.

Far from the best in the world, but also far from the worst. Ranked choice voting would be a huge improvement, as would eliminating the anti-democratic electoral college. Hell, I'd probably even eliminate the senate, or at least make it more proportionally representative.

 96 
 on: October 24, 2020, 02:48:59 PM 
Started by GypsySoul - Last post by tim_m
Yeah, we don't have any of that. Does that include a ballot?  Do you have automatic registration in either Sweden or Finland? Is voting mandatory?

 97 
 on: October 24, 2020, 01:01:54 PM 
Started by GypsySoul - Last post by jarmo
This is what I'm used to:

You get an envelope in the mail with the paperwork you need to bring to vote. Also included is information on how to.

Depending on the election, you can vote in advance by taking the paperwork and ID to the advance voting place. If you choose, you can also vote on election day.


Whenf I vote in the Finnish elections, it's the same deal. I get an envelope and it also includes the dates and places where I can vote here in Sweden (the dates usually fall on weekends. This is advance voting because it's abroad).


But yeah, not very difficult. You just gotta bring the paperwork and ID to the right place on the right date.




/jarmo




 98 
 on: October 24, 2020, 11:00:12 AM 
Started by GypsySoul - Last post by tim_m
Question for all Americans here, how do you feel about the voting system?

Is it too easy to vote? Everyone's cheating? Do you think your system for voting is the best in the world, and an example of how it should be in a democracy?







/jarmo


I'm not sure what it is like in your country, but just to give you an idea of how difficult it is to vote here. They're talking about possibly reaching 150 million turnout give or take. That is only 65% of the registered population. It would be our highest percentage wise since 1908. If we get to 65.5% it would be the largest since 1900 when we had 73%. The 150 would top the previous record of total voters set in 2016 which was 138 million. Just for reference we have roughly 250 million who are eligible to vote and roughly 215 million registered.

 99 
 on: October 24, 2020, 10:56:16 AM 
Started by GypsySoul - Last post by tim_m
I wouldn't ever do it from a phone or any connected internet device. Too easily compromised.

 100 
 on: October 24, 2020, 10:22:11 AM 
Started by GypsySoul - Last post by COMAMOTIVE
It's too confusing and too hard.

I have teenage kids who can tell me how to register on a million social network platforms but asked me how they vote

That's a problem.

I agree with Tim - it needs to be a holiday and as easy as being done from a phone.

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