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« Reply #40 on: February 20, 2005, 11:07:36 AM »

vr will never have that huge impact, It's very hard to take two big groups of the past and make one and become your own group seperated from the past great bands you were apart of..

The thing they have accomplished is making a solid album, and scott staying clean and staying together so far.. They have shows they are very hard workers and tour endlessly and are reliable.. It's more for the fans to know. Maybe one day *shrugs* they will be bigger, but for now they aren't making a "world imapct"..

I don't know their intentions, could just be getting out their making good rock music and keeping busy..?
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« Reply #41 on: February 20, 2005, 01:45:42 PM »

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I would portray it more more in a sense of "impact" than a musical accomplishment.?

Impact? WHat impact has VR had on the world?

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From a musical history standpoint as a whole, former members and current members alike, none will ever surpass the AFD "impact".

Like I have said , the success of the old band in terms of commercial impact will never be achieved, by any band....Im talking about the music content.



what impact, you ask? How about thousands upon thousands of fans the world over  joined together a few thousand at a time, to get together & rock their asses off for a few hours to VR performing most of Contraband live & in the flesh. It's real, it happened, it's happening now, & it's part of what music is supposed to be about. I know when I saw them at Roseland last year my life at that small moment was a little better off because of it, as it usually is whenever I go see a kick ass show.
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« Reply #42 on: February 20, 2005, 01:50:47 PM »



Impact? WHat impact has VR had on the world?
Again, I never mentioned VR.? I'm talking in terms of all current and former members.? Nothing they do individually or collectively in other forms will ever have the impact of AFD.

Like I have said , the success of the old band in terms of commercial impact will never be achieved, by any band....Im talking about the music content.


I wasn't speaking commercially either, I don't feel anything Axl's band will produce or anything Slash and Co. will put forth will ever match the timelessness or rate as high a musical accomplishment as AFD.

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« Reply #43 on: February 20, 2005, 02:15:18 PM »

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I'm talking in terms of all current and former members.  Nothing they do individually or collectively in other forms will ever have the impact of AFD. I wasn't speaking commercially either, I don't feel anything Axl's band will produce or anything Slash and Co. will put forth will ever match the timelessness or rate as high a musical accomplishment as AFD.

I  disagree if you mean in terms of making an album that is as good if not better than AFD or the Illusions. Are the chances good of any of that happening? ABsolutely not. But its still a possibility. I have to wait and hear CD before I can dismiss Axl and the current band of being able to meet that challenge. Slash and Duff are still capable of doing somthing like that again, but thus far they havnt come close.

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the impact that old GNR had.

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« Reply #44 on: February 20, 2005, 02:33:24 PM »

Isn't this question just like asking, will there ever be another Micheal Jordan?? There will never be a more perfect basketball player then Jordan (don't say Lebron) and there will never be another Appetite.? There is no incentive left.? The reason why appetite was so incredible was because that band was so hungry and thirsty to make it.? That is why there is no sense of urgency from Nu GNR.? Axl is already a gazillionair, he will make great music, but the motivation and inspiration is apparently lacking.? The oddS of another GNR type band coming around are EXTREMELY SLIM...............THERE HASN'T BEEN A BAND LIKE THEM SINCE THEM!
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« Reply #45 on: February 20, 2005, 04:13:18 PM »

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I'm talking in terms of all current and former members.? Nothing they do individually or collectively in other forms will ever have the impact of AFD. I wasn't speaking commercially either, I don't feel anything Axl's band will produce or anything Slash and Co. will put forth will ever match the timelessness or rate as high a musical accomplishment as AFD.

I? disagree if you mean in terms of making an album that is as good if not better than AFD or the Illusions. Are the chances good of any of that happening? ABsolutely not. But its still a possibility. I have to wait and hear CD before I can dismiss Axl and the current band of being able to meet that challenge. Slash and Duff are still capable of doing somthing like that again, but thus far they havnt come close.


"Better" is a subjective term, I feel "Contraband" is light years better than the Illusions, you don't, which is cool.? See what I mean?

As for Slash and Duff being "capable of doing somthing like that again" (as in AFD) it's not going to happen for multiple reasons.? ?Mainly, a different time in their artistic lives, it's just not a realistic expectation.

My sentiments on Axl's crew are solely based on what we've heard to this point from him.? Though opinions vary on the quality of the material, all would have to agree nothing we've heard so far will have the staying power, timelessness or impact of a SCOM of WTTJ.? ?Again. a totally unrealistic ecpectation.



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« Reply #46 on: February 20, 2005, 04:22:07 PM »

Isn't this question just like asking, will there ever be another Micheal Jordan?? There will never be a more perfect basketball player then Jordan (don't say Lebron) and there will never be another Appetite.? There is no incentive left.? The reason why appetite was so incredible was because that band was so hungry and thirsty to make it.? That is why there is no sense of urgency from Nu GNR.? Axl is already a gazillionair, he will make great music, but the motivation and inspiration is apparently lacking.? The oddS of another GNR type band coming around are EXTREMELY SLIM...............THERE HASN'T BEEN A BAND LIKE THEM SINCE THEM!
that is exactly right, this is why most groups never match their earlier work, they become content and live off their old work.. They still make good music but the hunger and desire isn't the same, as you said the urgency isn't there anymore.. They live in big houses and are now pampered..

If cd was axl's first album he would have released it ages ago, but being rich he has the luxury to take forever. and tweak till the cows come home.. I gues that could be a flaw as well, he might have taken some good work and tossed it out..
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« Reply #47 on: February 20, 2005, 08:56:50 PM »

"Better" is a subjective term, I feel "Contraband" is light years better than the Illusions, you don't, which is cool.? See what I mean?


Falcon, doesn't your feeling that Contraband is "light years better" than the Illusion albums conflict with your reputation for being the consummate realist here at HTGTH?? Wink
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« Reply #48 on: February 20, 2005, 09:29:15 PM »



Falcon, doesn't your feeling that Contraband is "light years better" than the Illusion albums conflict with your reputation for being the consummate realist here at HTGTH?? Wink

Absolutely not.

It's the exact reason my "reputation for being the consummate realist here at HTGTH" remains intact. Wink
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