Rhiad...How many version of this song you`ve heard?

[nesquick]

I would ask him to play it in a more "conventional" way,?

HELL NO ! conventional? to make it sound more accessible ? aka commercial ? aka play to pleaze instead of playing to fulfill your rocking needs and vibrations ? HELL NO !!the hell with the bluesy shit old slash plays, that's been done over and over again for the past century...
IT'S TIME FOR SOME NEW and SERIOUS ATARI SHIT !?

shame buckethead left.... bumblefoot would've been a great replacement too.
that's what I like about the new gnr, the music is not for the radio.

the best version of rhiad I've heard is the one from las vegas 01-01-01? HOB

No, just to make it sound better. That's as simple as that. I do think a more normal (conventional) guitar solo would improve the song a lot and would contribute to make it sound even better. More generally, I think shredding is not really the best thing to represent what GN'R is about. Guns N' Roses has always been into melodies, not shreds. It's a whole different conception of music. Buckethead is enought talented to adapt.

[reynics22]

for me it wasn't madagascar that convinced me of the potential of this whole thing, it was riyadh.

it's so good

the vegas version is great, but it's a little slower than how they did it on the 02 tour, i like them both, i agree with a different solo but not necessarily a slow one, i think this song has one of the best choruses ever

[nesquick]

not especially a slow one, but just a slower one would be perfect?
Everybody knows Buckethead can play 10.000 notes per seconds, it's not necessary to show it everytime he makes a guitar solo. Ok, we know it.? Let's work on the guitar melody instead, to make this solo the best possible, the most melodious one. The greatest guitarists ever are not those who show their ability to shred like speedy gonzales, but those who show their talent to write great guitar melodies

[parisrocks]

Rhiad was not played at the Vegas 12/31 show.

[Saul]

not especially a slow one, but just a slower one would be perfect 
Everybody knows Buckethead can play 10.000 notes per seconds, it's not necessary to show it everytime he makes a guitar solo. Ok, we know it.  Let's work on the guitar melody instead, to make this solo the best possible, the most melodious one. The greatest guitarists ever are not those who show their ability to shred like speedy gonzales, but those who show their talent to write great guitar melodies

Informed fans of Buckethead know that not only can he play those 10,000 notes per second and melt your face but he can also play 3 simple notes and melt your heart. 

[killingvector]

I Love My Parents
all of Colma

jeez, so many.

[estranged.1098]

Yes, but regarding the solo of this song I agree with nesquick.

[DEAD HORSE]

I just Have heard the Vegas Version, Would someone please put a link to this song? (not vegas version pleeze)   

[Voodoochild]

Ok, let me correct some things:

Rhiad was only played on Vegas 2001, Osaka, Tokyo, Pukkelpop, Docklands and Detroit. They didn't played Rhiad on the other Vegas shows. He played OMG (and the 12/31/2001 was the last time they played OMG).

I have all of them, but there's no soundboard version. The better one is the Osaka mix, made by some fan with the Bootleg and the Axl's Monitor Mix.

I made a Rhiad video with the Pukkelpop bootleg video dubbed with the Osaka mix audio. You can check it here:

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=16036.0

I love Rhiad. Exept this little 10 seconds keyboard intro

What? There's no keyboard intro. There's some beat there and a really good Fortus riff soon after, but there's no keyboard stuff. BTW, there's nothing wrong with that at all. I love it.

for me it wasn't madagascar that convinced me of the potential of this whole thing, it was riyadh.

Agreed 100% rey. I love the song, this is what I expected to hear by Axl. I've been hooked for this tune since the first time I heard it. There's some AMAZING riffs, an absolutely cool chorus and some really smooth 3 guitars works. Actually, I don't know how can someone hates this song saying how much is "techno" or "industrial" or something. This is the most rocker song by the new band and they did a terrific job IMO. 

[dave-gnfnr2k]

I love Rhiad. Exept this little 10 seconds keyboard intro, I think this is a very powerfull song. Dockland'02 video version is GREAT. I see a lot of potencial in its studio version. I doubt it will be on CD (but who knows?) but I hope We will see it as a very good B-Side.?If I were Axl I would just change the guitar solo a little bit because BH shreds on it and it's not very nice to hear. I would ask him to play it in a more "conventional" way, without shredding. Exept these 2 little details, I love it.

You are thinking of silkworms

[Voodoochild]

I love Rhiad. Exept this little 10 seconds keyboard intro, I think this is a very powerfull song. Dockland'02 video version is GREAT. I see a lot of potencial in its studio version. I doubt it will be on CD (but who knows?) but I hope We will see it as a very good B-Side. If I were Axl I would just change the guitar solo a little bit because BH shreds on it and it's not very nice to hear. I would ask him to play it in a more "conventional" way, without shredding. Exept these 2 little details, I love it.

You are thinking of silkworms

Silkworms has no solo and it wasn't played on Docklands.
He just thought that synth beat intro was some kind of a keyboard effect.

[Wooody]

I would ask him to play it in a more "conventional" way,?

HELL NO ! conventional? to make it sound more accessible ? aka commercial ? aka play to pleaze instead of playing to fulfill your rocking needs and vibrations ? HELL NO !!the hell with the bluesy shit old slash plays, that's been done over and over again for the past century...
IT'S TIME FOR SOME NEW and SERIOUS ATARI SHIT !?

shame buckethead left.... bumblefoot would've been a great replacement too.
that's what I like about the new gnr, the music is not for the radio.

the best version of rhiad I've heard is the one from las vegas 01-01-01? HOB

No, just to make it sound better. That's as simple as that. I do think a more normal (conventional) guitar solo would improve the song a lot and would contribute to make it sound even better. More generally, I think shredding is not really the best thing to represent what GN'R is about. Guns N' Roses has always been into melodies, not shreds. It's a whole different conception of music. Buckethead is enought talented to adapt.

I Don't agree. I don't want "normal" anywhere near GNR.

GNR is unique. Not "normal"  I also think you don't really understand the meaning of the word shredding.. slash shreds too you know ? 

[dave-gnfnr2k]

I love Rhiad. Exept this little 10 seconds keyboard intro, I think this is a very powerfull song. Dockland'02 video version is GREAT. I see a lot of potencial in its studio version. I doubt it will be on CD (but who knows?) but I hope We will see it as a very good B-Side. If I were Axl I would just change the guitar solo a little bit because BH shreds on it and it's not very nice to hear. I would ask him to play it in a more "conventional" way, without shredding. Exept these 2 little details, I love it.

You are thinking of silkworms

Silkworms has no solo and it wasn't played on Docklands.
He just thought that synth beat intro was some kind of a keyboard effect.

But silkworms has that long keyboard/synth intro.

[AxlFink]

jameslofton29 thinks this song sucks. This should delay the release of CD a few years.

[ppbebe]

jameslofton29 thinks this song sucks. This should delay the release of CD a few years.

Yep, jameslofton29 is the reason for the delay.

[Twisted Nerve 85]

Unfortunately none, does anyone have a link to a site where I can listen to an Mp3 of the song Im sure someone mustve recorded in when GnR were on there 2002 tour. Id really appreciate it 

[nesquick]

check that one: http://s32.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2SH3J3KBTLL3Y2AZ6JBGGGO93R
the studio version could KICK ASS! I think I prefer Rihad to madagascar now. The blus is my favourite one.

[jimmythegent]

I would ask him to play it in a more "conventional" way,?

HELL NO ! conventional? to make it sound more accessible ? aka commercial ? aka play to pleaze instead of playing to fulfill your rocking needs and vibrations ? HELL NO !!the hell with the bluesy shit old slash plays, that's been done over and over again for the past century...
IT'S TIME FOR SOME NEW and SERIOUS ATARI SHIT !?

shame buckethead left.... bumblefoot would've been a great replacement too.
that's what I like about the new gnr, the music is not for the radio.

the best version of rhiad I've heard is the one from las vegas 01-01-01? HOB

No, just to make it sound better. That's as simple as that. I do think a more normal (conventional) guitar solo would improve the song a lot and would contribute to make it sound even better. More generally, I think shredding is not really the best thing to represent what GN'R is about. Guns N' Roses has always been into melodies, not shreds. It's a whole different conception of music. Buckethead is enought talented to adapt.

I Don't agree. I don't want "normal" anywhere near GNR.

GNR is unique. Not "normal"? I also think you don't really understand the meaning of the word shredding.. slash shreds too you know ??

Slash doesn't/hasn't ever really shredded.

Shredding can generally be defined by such guitar techniques as "fret tapping", "sweeps" coupled with use of the tremelo arm or whammy bar while using "pinch harmonics". Players like Eddie Van Halen, Vai, Malmsteen and Buckethead employ such techniques where as Slash is a much bluesier player (pentatonic). Sure, he can play fast when he wants (check the amazing outro solo on Rocket Queen) but he uses different techniques such as hammer on, pull offs etc.. so he's never been considered a 'shredder'.