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« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2005, 10:22:16 AM »

So unless Axl has a secret pressing plant that he built himself staffed with employees that are completely under his control I don't think he has much chance of stopping anything.

Unless of course he's burning them himself on his computer, and thats what is taking so long.  hihi

Ha ha, looking at the last 10 yrs, neither of the two scenarions would surprise me.
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« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2005, 02:02:06 PM »

Velvet Revolvers' record wasnt posted online until a few days before release. Even then it was tracks recorded at low quality off a radio station. VR did well to prevent it from leaking. Some people say it was leaked on torrent 3 weeks before release, but noone said that on message boards, and i never saw Contraband on the torrent sites i visited.

Contraband was most certainly leaked 3 weeks and 5 days prior to it's official release date.
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« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2005, 02:16:51 PM »


Contraband was most certainly leaked 3 weeks and 5 days prior to it's official release date.



If Contraband was leaked on torrent 3 weeks early it must have been under a misspelled name. Im thinking thats the only way i could have missed it. And I never read about anyone on GNR boards saying they heard tracks. Just after the fact people say it leaked.
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« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2005, 05:13:11 PM »

The album, if it ever makes it out of the 'final stages', will leak. Thats a fact. All it would take is one guy at the pressing plant pocketing a cd as it comes off the line. Pressing Plants toss tons of perfectly playable cd's because of things like misprinted artwork. They go into the trash bin, guy walks by, pockets one, and voila! Instant pre-release to leak online. There are plenty of other points in the process where things are out of Axl's control that could be taken advantage of.

So unless Axl has a secret pressing plant that he built himself staffed with employees that are completely under his control I don't think he has much chance of stopping anything.

Unless of course he's burning them himself on his computer, and thats what is taking so long.? hihi

haha - I never thought of that!
Very well could be!  rofl
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« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2005, 11:16:32 PM »

Unless of course he's burning them himself on his computer, and thats what is taking so long.? hihi

 rofl

well, in that case I volunteer to assit with the burning!  Grin


anyhow, once it's released I hope that none of US will upload it... 
matter of fact I don't care about being able to rip it to my computer.  I hope its made so it can't be ripped into mp3s so it'll be harder for it to get uploaded and illegally downloaded.
Fuck that.  After all this time everyone better buy the fucker!  rant

of course, if it is offered for download on Itunes it will be very easy for anyone who purchases it and downloads it to upload it to an illegal file sharing site   Sad

then again, maybe Axl won't personally give a damn - so long as the public is lovin' the CD. 
remember when UYI came out in 2 seperate albums and Slash was like "buy one and copy the ot*her from a friend!"  Tongue

You gotta imagine however that Geffen is taking measures to protect it as much as they can... 

Including bonus material that you can acess only though having the physical CD would help.
But, I believe i've heard about something that the record companies can use to make it 'rip-proof' & 'burn proof'
If so, then I'd imagine they would be using it.
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« Reply #25 on: July 22, 2005, 11:39:47 PM »

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shit man i dont know, ill ask him next time i see him
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« Reply #26 on: July 23, 2005, 02:27:19 PM »

Well after talkin to Axl.  I found out hes not gonna release it on a compact disc.  Hes gonna release it on a brand new format thats called "AudioMicrowave"  Which will be impossible to copy.
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« Reply #27 on: July 23, 2005, 09:28:57 PM »

Someone mentioned releasing it worldwide on the same day. Great idea. Something else they could do is send one of those promo discs to the radio stations a few weeks before release. Put like 4 or 5 songs on it and the radio stations play whichever songs they want. I think this might lower the piracy issues. But I dont think Axl should worry about it. Everyone wants the CD in their hands. Concerning CD, I dont give a fuck about MP3's,cd-r's,etc. I must have the real thing.
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« Reply #28 on: July 24, 2005, 12:14:13 PM »

I hate to say it but piracy would be one of the more welcome dilemmas facing this album's eventual release. Methinks there are larger obstacles to breach before the redhead will relent and hand it over.
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« Reply #29 on: July 24, 2005, 06:26:06 PM »

I think totally preventing piracy in today's day and age is virtually impossible.? The album will show up for download somewhere before it's released and as before - that'll be the sure sign that it is indeed gonna come out.?

But I'm still gonna buy it three times. ok
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« Reply #30 on: July 24, 2005, 06:29:18 PM »

I hate to say it but piracy would be one of the more welcome dilemmas facing this album's eventual release. Methinks there are larger obstacles to breach before the redhead will relent and hand it over.

agreed, I'll be buying it regardless and I need it in MP3 for my Ipod

theres only so much you can do in this day and age, all they can try and do is minimise or capitalise on it
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« Reply #31 on: July 26, 2005, 08:01:49 AM »

I hate to say it but piracy would be one of the more welcome dilemmas facing this album's eventual release. Methinks there are larger obstacles to breach before the redhead will relent and hand it over.

it seems that albums sales depend from the mp3 sharing. With bad and good consequences.
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« Reply #32 on: July 26, 2005, 12:44:40 PM »

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matter of fact I don't care about being able to rip it to my computer.? I hope its made so it can't be ripped into mp3s so it'll be harder for it to get uploaded and illegally downloaded.

If I can't get it onto my ipod I won't be buying it. The only time I really listen to CD's is in my car and I spend very little time in my car. I just rip everything to my computer (I have a small home studio with a nice set of studio monitors that are great for listening to music on) and put the cd in a box in my closet.
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« Reply #33 on: July 26, 2005, 06:09:39 PM »

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matter of fact I don't care about being able to rip it to my computer.? I hope its made so it can't be ripped into mp3s so it'll be harder for it to get uploaded and illegally downloaded.

If I can't get it onto my ipod I won't be buying it. The only time I really listen to CD's is in my car and I spend very little time in my car. I just rip everything to my computer (I have a small home studio with a nice set of studio monitors that are great for listening to music on) and put the cd in a box in my closet.


I have an adaptor for my Ipod and it sounds great in my car. Theres something about driving and listening to music, I personally cant wait to be able to xruise along with CD blaring
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« Reply #34 on: July 27, 2005, 03:51:59 AM »

Im just buying Chinese Democracy (as opposed to downloading it instead) so I can have

A) the album art
B) the ability to help Axl have incentive for C.D.2!
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« Reply #35 on: July 27, 2005, 02:52:44 PM »

If it was up to Axl he'd probably have some sort of bug in the computer to prevent any hackers from spreading it by allowing him to see their home addresses to he can go and chop off their hands. LMAO he's a crazy fucker so I wouldnt put it past him.  peace
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« Reply #36 on: August 07, 2005, 12:31:04 PM »

The whole Radiohead?s OK COMPUTER ( 2002 I think )  album was already on the internet 3 MONTHS before the release
never knew about it
and man, even with a big label... this shits happens !

do you think we WON?T see a release date months before? or even NEVER?

to me, the best thing they could do is just prepare the MKT to the first week os sales
imagine you turn your tv on and all the channels are reporting "this is the first time that one band do that... they didn?t said anything, so, if you like GNR, go to the first store next to you and buy the album of the year!"

this shit will spread like a virus

I have this opinion just becouse that is not a "normal" album, there?s a history, there?s the "let?s see if that guy can do the same without slash...", there?s the "Axl is really back this time??!"
and 3 MONTHS BEFORE THE RELASE DATE, man, just the "hardcore fans" will download from the internet AND buy the album OR won?t even download the internet just to wait for the "right thing" ... BUT, the whole rock n roll fans, those fans that likes black sabbath, linkin park, metallica, avril lavigne, green day, foo fighters... ( even you don?t like some of these bands I said, they play pop / rock ), these fans will download the album from the internet... and even if they like, a lot won?t buy the album couse they already have!

well, ehat do you guys think? do you prefer hear from them 3 months before some concrete news and live with the risk of this shit happen ... or ... not hear anything and just have the surprise of wake up and see the "miracle" on your tv ( Smiley )  ??

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« Reply #37 on: August 07, 2005, 12:36:16 PM »

actually it was "Hail to the Thief" that was leaked 3 months early in rough mix stages.  Sure it is possible that CD could get leaked but this is a bit of a dead horse topic for now.
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« Reply #38 on: August 07, 2005, 03:18:10 PM »

Here are the details of Axl's anti-piracy plan.

- There will only be one copy of CD is existence and it will be at Axl's house
- If you want to listen to it you have to go to Axl's house and pay a fee at the gate
- You will then be searched several times for recording equipment. Internal and external searches.
- A lift will take you to the basement level where you will be allowed to listen to the record once
- You will then have to have all memories of the music erased before leaving.
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« Reply #39 on: August 07, 2005, 03:49:56 PM »

Sorry mate,
your flawless story suddenly gets unrealistic here. ok

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