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« Reply #40 on: March 09, 2007, 04:36:45 PM »

no. something new would be BETTER.? Seriously, the tracks I have heard so far are no way near to Appetite in the 80s.? OLD FANS OPINION but the tracks are good but the publicity ain't there.
There will never be another Appetite, so don't bother waiting for that.  It's more fair to compare the "new" songs to modern music, not one of the best albums ever that was released over 20 years ago.
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« Reply #41 on: March 09, 2007, 07:40:11 PM »

Finck`s intro and solo brings tears in my eyes - just fantastic. The lirics are idiotic though, but I`m not into lirics that much, so I don`t care.
What I find disturbing is, that the band has completly butchered this song live (as they have also ruined Madagascar and Better) - I don`t know what were they thinking Huh. I hope they`ll improve in this tour!

how do you know they've butchered madagascar..surely you haven't heard a studio version? maybe it's supposed to sound that way.
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« Reply #42 on: March 12, 2007, 09:39:57 AM »

IRS is a breakup song that takes a different approach from most.? To me, it captures the feelings of persecution and rage, as well as the desire for oneupmanship you feel in the aftermath.? And it does all this without losing sight of the "How could someone I loved do this to me" sentiments.? Quite singular, really.? Listen to it again.


Bring me 10 casual radio fans who say they felt all that at first-listen and I'll tell you I.R.S. will be a mainstream hit.

Until then, it shouldn't be in the running for 1st single, or 2nd for that matter.
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« Reply #43 on: March 12, 2007, 12:30:45 PM »

Finck`s intro and solo brings tears in my eyes - just fantastic. The lirics are idiotic though, but I`m not into lirics that much, so I don`t care.
What I find disturbing is, that the band has completly butchered this song live (as they have also ruined Madagascar and Better) - I don`t know what were they thinking Huh. I hope they`ll improve in this tour!

how do you know they've butchered madagascar..surely you haven't heard a studio version? maybe it's supposed to sound that way.

If the album version sounds the way they were playing it last year (and it is quite safe to say that it won`t), than Bucket is even bigger genious, than I or anyone else gave him credit for. And if that is the case, than thank god that we have the Boston 2002 soundboard recording.
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« Reply #44 on: March 12, 2007, 12:41:11 PM »

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It's more fair to compare the "new" songs to modern music, not one of the best albums ever that was released over 20 years ago.

That couldn't be farther from the truth. Axl is taking the band in the new direction they are going because it is somehow supposed to be "better", or what GNR should have always sounded like in his vision. Modern music aside, if his vision of GNR can't produce "better" music than what already exists in his own back catalog than this project is nothing but a failure and a damn shame.

The people advocating that the new music should be compared to contemporary music are the ones that know everything we have heard thus far falls short of back catalog comparisson, and thus want to avoid that comparisson because it doesn't validate Axl's vision of what the band should have been. 

It's like he served us steak for alot of years, and a certain group on here advocates we should then be happy eating hamburger for dinner instead of the steak we used to get, because at least hamburger is better than dog food. It doesn't make any logical sense.
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« Reply #45 on: March 12, 2007, 01:19:04 PM »

It's like he served us steak for alot of years, and a certain group on here advocates we should then be happy eating hamburger for dinner instead of the steak we used to get, because at least hamburger is better than dog food. It doesn't make any logical sense.


I guess you'd be happy to eat the same steak that you've been eating for the last 20 years?

It's been eaten, digested etc over and over again, but it's still the same steak so it must be really tasty!

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« Reply #46 on: March 12, 2007, 11:16:06 PM »

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It's more fair to compare the "new" songs to modern music, not one of the best albums ever that was released over 20 years ago.

That couldn't be farther from the truth. Axl is taking the band in the new direction they are going because it is somehow supposed to be "better", or what GNR should have always sounded like in his vision. Modern music aside, if his vision of GNR can't produce "better" music than what already exists in his own back catalog than this project is nothing but a failure and a damn shame.

The people advocating that the new music should be compared to contemporary music are the ones that know everything we have heard thus far falls short of back catalog comparisson, and thus want to avoid that comparisson because it doesn't validate Axl's vision of what the band should have been.?

It's like he served us steak for alot of years, and a certain group on here advocates we should then be happy eating hamburger for dinner instead of the steak we used to get, because at least hamburger is better than dog food. It doesn't make any logical sense.
I didn't mean to suggest that Chinese Democracy would pale in comparison to Appetite for Destruction.  I simply mean, you can't expect it to sound anywhere near the same.  The Use Your Illusions were FAR different from AFD and they were released only 5 years apart and they even played a few songs from UYI in the AFD era.  We're now 20+ years removed from AFD, you're not gonna hear another Welcome to the Jungle or Paradise City, it's called evolution.  Again, that's not to say you won't hear good music.  I, for one, LOVE all the "new" songs I've heard.  So don't throw me into your collection of people who know that the new album can't match AFD's brilliance.  I've seen the new band twice and think they do quite a stellar job playing the old songs, so I have all the confidence we will eventually hear great music (whenver that may be).
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