George W. Bush- What will he do once he leaves office?

[Booker Floyd]

Its easy to blow him off as nothing, but i'm sure thats what many did with the terrorist threats before 9-11.  \

 

Can you expound on this?

[AxlsMainMan]

I did not say anything about an apologistic view.

How about Nixon?
At the time many people hated him, but its quite obvious you respect him more than George W. Bush. So that must mean you believe Nixon was a better president, and at the time of his administration is was difficult to imagine a worse one. The same is true of George Bush. Chances are there will be a worse president than him, maybe in 2008 (if Hilary Clinton wins? ).

So according to your views, history will show he was an ok president - maybe even slightly mediocre - because the worst is yet to come.

What kind of argument is this?

There might be a worse president in the future = he did the right thing?? Thats an equation worthy of a Bush supporter I suppose.

Robman clearly resides in a Republican household

[The Dog]

Its easy to blow him off as nothing, but i'm sure thats what many did with the terrorist threats before 9-11.  \

 

Can you expound on this?

i know i for one didn't take any of the videos they would show on the news really serious.  the training camp vids kinda made me laugh.  when OBL says stuff like he'll destroy us and blah blah blah its like "yeah dude, suuuuure you will".  in my naive mind they could never do any damage - after all how would a rag tag group of guys ever defeat an army of m1 abrams tanks and apache attack helicopters?  all of their attacks on US targets prior to 9-11 (minus the attack in 93 which to me only made them look even more clumsy/incapable of a serious attack) were off US soil, just shitty things to see on the news that made people mad for a day but life went on....  the idea of a 9-11 type of attack was completely foreign to me (and i'm sure many americans).

There wasn't much public out cry for a military response after the embassy bombings, 93 WTC bomb and the USS Cole - it wasn't until 9-11 that people wanted something done.

[Booker Floyd]

i know i for one didn't take any of the videos they would show on the news really serious.  the training camp vids kinda made me laugh.  when OBL says stuff like he'll destroy us and blah blah blah its like "yeah dude, suuuuure you will".  in my naive mind they could never do any damage - after all how would a rag tag group of guys ever defeat an army of m1 abrams tanks and apache attack helicopters?  all of their attacks on US targets prior to 9-11 (minus the attack in 93 which to me only made them look even more clumsy/incapable of a serious attack) were off US soil, just shitty things to see on the news that made people mad for a day but life went on....  the idea of a 9-11 type of attack was completely foreign to me (and i'm sure many americans).

There wasn't much public out cry for a military response after the embassy bombings, 93 WTC bomb and the USS Cole - it wasn't until 9-11 that people wanted something done.

I remember some outcry.  And Bin Laden was indeed placed on the FBIs Most Wanted list and pursued for capture.  Besides that, your comparison isnt exactly a valid one since one man is a head of state that, to my knowledge, has never threatened the United States with violence, and the other is a terrorist who did.

[The Dog]

i know i for one didn't take any of the videos they would show on the news really serious.  the training camp vids kinda made me laugh.  when OBL says stuff like he'll destroy us and blah blah blah its like "yeah dude, suuuuure you will".  in my naive mind they could never do any damage - after all how would a rag tag group of guys ever defeat an army of m1 abrams tanks and apache attack helicopters?  all of their attacks on US targets prior to 9-11 (minus the attack in 93 which to me only made them look even more clumsy/incapable of a serious attack) were off US soil, just shitty things to see on the news that made people mad for a day but life went on....  the idea of a 9-11 type of attack was completely foreign to me (and i'm sure many americans).

There wasn't much public out cry for a military response after the embassy bombings, 93 WTC bomb and the USS Cole - it wasn't until 9-11 that people wanted something done.

I remember some outcry.  And Bin Laden was indeed placed on the FBIs Most Wanted list and pursued for capture.  Besides that, your comparison isnt exactly a valid one since one man is a head of state that, to my knowledge, has never threatened the United States with violence, and the other is a terrorist who did.

Outcry is one thing, but demanding a response is another.  Placing him on the FBI was a federal response, not a public one.  Compare the public reaction to any of the attacks I mentioned to the public reaction after 9-11 - night and day.

as for my "comparison" i wasn't trying to compare them.  While not a "threat" in the way that OBL is to the US, Chavez is a threat to Latin American democracy.

[Axl4Prez2004]

I must say I enjoyed Richard Nixon's comparison of Nixon and G. W. Bush...completely on the mark.  Nice work.  Don't forget Nixon wouldn't allow whacked-out born-again nonsense to dominate (completely own) his views on science/ethics.

To try and include "intelligent design" in my childrens' education and stifle science/evolution,  deny vital funding of embryonic stem cell research, and attempt to prevent women from having access to an abortion is evil in my eyes.  He is not a president that decides to do what's best for the people of this country...he does things based solely on his f'd up ultra-religious born-again insanity. 

The Republican Party was better than all the crap that's being served up today.  30 to 40 years ago, I would have been a Republican.  Smaller government, lower taxes, personal responsibility, strong defense, strong on crime, and no governmental interference when it came to medical issues i.e. abortion.  Yup, without a doubt, I'd have been a Republican.

While Chavez is a threat to Venezuelan democracy, I don't think he's a threat to Latin American democracy...what he's a threat to is a stable supply of black liquid gold...i.e. oil.   

   

[gandra]

In many ways the Republicans will treat George W. in 2008 like the Dems treated the disgraced former Prez Clinton in 2000.? If I'm not mistaken though, he may be kept more under wraps due to the severely low popularity he has now and is likely to continue into '08.?

Although, "W" is hugely popular in Albania!!!? I saw it on the news the other night.? How many electoral votes does Albania carry?? ??

albania?
fuck that country,it's good place for drugs dealers?
they like bush because he want to give kosovo (serbian province) to albania.
i think bush make a mistake because serbs were usa partners and friends in first and second world war

[Dr. Blutarsky]

I won't be a windbag like so many other posters......

I think he'll probably be a low key ex-president. He is such a polarizing figure, he'll most likely stay out of the limelight.

[AxlsMainMan]

If Rudy wins, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he kept Bush around as an advisor.

[freedom78]

i think bush make a mistake because serbs were usa partners and friends in first and second world war

By that logic, the French should be deeply entrenched in Iraq, right now. 

In other news...

Yes, Nixon was a much better President.  In fact, we was kind of a good President.  Vietnam was a fuck up, but he certainly didn't start that war.  Watergate was a political scandal, which is hardly the equivalent of recklessly starting an unnecessary war. 

I think in his retirement, Bush will engage Dan Quayle in a game of Trivial Pursuit and will, 12 years later, emerge victorious.  And that brings up an interesting point.  In later editions of games like that, would Bush miss all the questions about his Presidency, because he's still unwilling to admit he was ever wrong.

Q: "Which US President led the country to an unnecessary and reckless war in Iraq?"

Bush: "None of 'em"   

[Robman?]

I did not say anything about an apologistic view.

How about Nixon?
At the time many people hated him, but its quite obvious you respect him more than George W. Bush. So that must mean you believe Nixon was a better president, and at the time of his administration is was difficult to imagine a worse one. The same is true of George Bush. Chances are there will be a worse president than him, maybe in 2008 (if Hilary Clinton wins  ).

So according to your views, history will show he was an ok president - maybe even slightly mediocre - because the worst is yet to come.

What kind of argument is this?

There might be a worse president in the future = he did the right thing?  Thats an equation worthy of a Bush supporter I suppose.

I don't have to prove I'm right, I just have to prove you're wrong. My point is, it's all a matter of perspective.

Take today's music scene for example, we may see it as mostly crap. Will kids in 15-20 years think that thier modern stuff is crap but the music of today is awesome? Will Fall out Boy be doing a reunion tour? 
Its all perspective.

I did not say anything about an apologistic view.

How about Nixon?
At the time many people hated him, but its quite obvious you respect him more than George W. Bush. So that must mean you believe Nixon was a better president, and at the time of his administration is was difficult to imagine a worse one. The same is true of George Bush. Chances are there will be a worse president than him, maybe in 2008 (if Hilary Clinton wins  ).

So according to your views, history will show he was an ok president - maybe even slightly mediocre - because the worst is yet to come.

What kind of argument is this?

There might be a worse president in the future = he did the right thing?  Thats an equation worthy of a Bush supporter I suppose.

Robman clearly resides in a Republican household

au contraire, I am neither. Democrats always seem to take opposite views just to make things take longer to get done. Republicans suffer from stupidity and inferiority complexes. I dislike both groups. 

[fuckin crazy]

albania?
fuck that country,it's good place for drugs dealers?

It is astounding that people hold on to ancient prejudices . Most Muslims in that part of the world adopted Islam , after the Ottoman conquest of the 17th century , for tax purposes . That part of the world suffered far too much in the last century . what , 5 wars . As Rodney King said "can't we all just get along" .

[Nostradamus]

Now that the Decider's approval rating is about as low among conservatives as it is among liberals, I don't anticipate that either party will have much use for him. 

[The Dog]

Now that the Decider's approval rating is about as low among conservatives as it is among liberals, I don't anticipate that either party will have much use for him. 

nah, the dems have a lot of use for him for years to come...

[Axl4Prez2004]

^ Ha!  Maybe the Democrats can bring Bush around on their tours across the country.
 

[freedom78]

^ Ha!  Maybe the Democrats can bring Bush around on their tours across the country.
 

Maybe once he retires, he'll suddenly be for everything that Democrats like...kind of like when the KKK in South Park switched sides, because they knew everyone would vote against them. 

[The Dog]

Premier Bush is down to 26% - how low can you go!??!?!  He is so close to Nixon's low, I think I can smell it!!!