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« on: March 07, 2005, 04:33:22 PM »

I want to know how far down can the Tremelo bar be pushed back to raise the pitch(what is the maximum pitch I can reach). I think I pushed it around 1/2 to 1 cm and the low E string snaped out of place.
(the guitar is a Jackson DXMG)

Does anyone know of any websites that would help me set up the tremelo system? I don't have time to take it to a technician.
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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2005, 04:58:59 PM »

Dont do that!!!Its very dangerous to the bridge and to the guitars body.I?ll tell u what u should do. I dont know the exact name of it, but there?s a way of "digin a little hole" in the bag of the tremolo so that you can rise the pitch propietly.Go to a luthier and explain him. Steve Vai uses it on his Jem gutiar.It looks like this:

Se that?Do that.Dont fuck up ur guitar







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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2005, 05:34:11 PM »

What you are talking about is a reccessed body route for the floyd rose. This wont stop string breakage at all. It will allow for higher raised pitches then a non reccessed floyd routing but again , it wont aleviate problems with string breakage. The best bet is to use quality strings , pay more , get better .. and maybe try a heavier string gauge.

Strings are gunna break anyways , especially under heavy stress from dive bombs and "reverse" bombs where pitches are raised! As I said , more expensive strings , heavier string gauge will help you a little but the strings are gunna keep breaking after awhile. Also , where are your strings snapping? At the nut or back at the bridge? You should check for scuffs and burrs and rough spots both at the bridge and the nut and if theres any spots there have them worked on by a tech.

One more thing , I've done a quick search and most results I get for your style show that the floyd routing is allready reccesed for "pulling back" on the bar to raise the pitch. So just try some of my suggesstions and see how it goes.

Rock On!!
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« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2005, 02:44:37 PM »

THe strings don't break, they snap out of the bridge.  I want to know the highest pitch I can reach before the strings snap out. 
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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2005, 04:13:32 PM »

What you are talking about is a reccessed body route for the floyd rose. This wont stop string breakage at all. It will allow for higher raised pitches then a non reccessed floyd routing but again , it wont aleviate problems with string breakage. The best bet is to use quality strings , pay more , get better .. and maybe try a heavier string gauge.

Strings are gunna break anyways , especially under heavy stress from dive bombs and "reverse" bombs where pitches are raised! As I said , more expensive strings , heavier string gauge will help you a little but the strings are gunna keep breaking after awhile. Also , where are your strings snapping? At the nut or back at the bridge? You should check for scuffs and burrs and rough spots both at the bridge and the nut and if theres any spots there have them worked on by a tech.

One more thing , I've done a quick search and most results I get for your style show that the floyd routing is allready reccesed for "pulling back" on the bar to raise the pitch. So just try some of my suggesstions and see how it goes.

Rock On!!
I wasnt saying what I said as a way to evitate stop the string braking or snaping, I was just saying because what he does fucks up the guitar!



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« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2005, 04:53:44 PM »

What you are talking about is a reccessed body route for the floyd rose. This wont stop string breakage at all. It will allow for higher raised pitches then a non reccessed floyd routing but again , it wont aleviate problems with string breakage. The best bet is to use quality strings , pay more , get better .. and maybe try a heavier string gauge.

Strings are gunna break anyways , especially under heavy stress from dive bombs and "reverse" bombs where pitches are raised! As I said , more expensive strings , heavier string gauge will help you a little but the strings are gunna keep breaking after awhile. Also , where are your strings snapping? At the nut or back at the bridge? You should check for scuffs and burrs and rough spots both at the bridge and the nut and if theres any spots there have them worked on by a tech.

One more thing , I've done a quick search and most results I get for your style show that the floyd routing is allready reccesed for "pulling back" on the bar to raise the pitch. So just try some of my suggesstions and see how it goes.

Rock On!!
I wasnt saying what I said as a way to evitate stop the string braking or snaping, I was just saying because what he does fucks up the guitar!



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Ok cool. but I'm still losing you here. How does this fuck up his guitar? I have an epiphone explorer with a floyd that isnt recessed and I set it up so I could pull back on it and it hasnt/wont fuck up my guitar.

Do you mean fuck up the floyd or the paint and finish of his guitar?

"He strings don't break, they snap out of the bridge.  I want to know the highest pitch I can reach before the strings snap out."

Ummmm .. that is NOT supposes to happen. LOL! Never should they "snap" out .. they should break before "snapping" out of the bridge. Your bridge is a double locking system and those strings should stay put on your guitar until they either break or you decide to change them .. no matter how much whammy abuse you put them through. Are you locking them in place tightly at the bridge. It sounds to me that you maybe arent.

I'm gunna guess that whats happening is this , you cut the ball ends off your strings , which is the correct thing to do .. then load them in the bridge and tighten them but not tight enough. Cause once a string is installed correctly on that double locking system it should never ever "snap" out of place unless it (the bridge locking system) isnt tight enough or your bridge itself is faulty in some way.

I hope you get it figured out .. keep us updated.
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« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2005, 11:24:13 PM »

Went to the store and got the usual 11's (the guitar came with 10's or 9's).
I spent around five hours trying to get the floydrose parallel to the body with no luck.(And I broke a high E string in the process).
After hours of trial and error(tightening,loosing the springs and the other stuff)
I decided to take two springs off my older guitar and I added them to my Jackson. NOw the floyd is dead horizontal just the way I wanted it to be, and it stays in better tune than before when messing with the wammy bar.

I still haven't tried to take the wammy far too low, for I am waiting for the strings to stretch a little more, then I'll see how low I can get and learn something in the way.

(my old guitar has now only one spring...Oh well.)

Thanks for your help...I'll be back.
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