KY-Buckethead show..info on Axl/Buckethead

[grog mug]

I've been anticipating this show for a while and it finally came.  I gathered a few people (g/f, friends, dad, etc) to come and experience Buckethead, because he truely is one of the best guitar players I've ever seen.  The show was great, small venue but Bootsy Collins was there jamming the entire time in the front row with all the fans with his g/f taping the show.  I was trying to find Buckethead's manager all night which I could not locate, but did run in to a crew guy that travels with Bucket to every show.  He went on to tell me that AXL is the one doing the least work on this "new" project, and the rest of the band have their parts finished.  Axl seemingly goes in to the studio and changes vocals and little details on songs that he believes really could get better.  The guy was selling Buckethead shirts and seemed like he knew Bucket pretty well and was also from California, so I take it he was telling me the truth.  He also went on to tell me how much of an asshole Axl could be in order to perfect his music.  It was an AWESOME show and I miss Buckethead even more after seeing him tear it up as usual on guitar.  BUCKETHEAD PLEASE COME BACK TO GN'R!  You were the best thing to happen to the new lineup and no matter what I will always be a fan.

[badapple81]

You most likely could not find Bucket's manager cos he was off giving MTV a one liner that Bucket has left the band, then using the rest of the news article to use GNR to promote his solo stuff.

I'll miss pressing the next chapter button on the DVD remote when Bucket gets up to do that stupid solo routine he does. And ill miss the arrogant fuckers on his web page too.

Sorry dude.. I guess this is all dead horse.. and dont have the same enthusiasm and desire for him to come back to GNR..

Thanks for sharing the info, interesting read and news   Glad you had a good time  

[badapple81]

And it sounds like we can keep watching our old DVDs and discussing our Dead Horse threads cos the album wont be out for a long long time.. if ever  

[kockstar99]

Yeah ill miss the "old Mac Donald" solos he used to play..

[madagas]

Guys, the simple fact of the matter is Axl has been the problem all along. He is completely obsessed with the project and can't let it go. Bucket finally had enough and moved on with his "life". It is well documented from bandmembers that their parts were done in Feb- March last year. Dizzy, Tommy, and even Brain confirmed this on multiple occasions. Our red haired recluse is simply one crazy motherfucker with a HUGE insecurity problem. I still have faith the album will come out and be great-Bucket or no Bucket. When is anybody's guess.  

[Ali]

Axl Rose being a perfectionist?  That wouldn't surprise me.  Axl Rose putting the "least" amount of work into the GN'R project?  I don't believe that for a second.  Obsessive perfectionism may give the impression that he is just procrastinating, but I have a hard time believing that he hasn't agonized over this work for the better part of the past decade.  My basis for this is David Wild's interview with Axl Rose for RS magazine that was put out in early 2000, which described his working habits/schedule.  Also, Brian May's comments that Axl has to have every note "move him".  Those comments from people who have actually been with and worked with him in the studio are probably more accurate than those from friend of a bandmember.

No offense inteded grog mug.  I'm just more inclined to believe the people I mentioned, rather than a member of Buckethead's crew.  

Ali

[Malcolm]

I think buckethaeds guy is lying...he aviasly is gonna be on buckets side...

[Will]

I think buckethaeds guy is lying...he aviasly is gonna be on buckets side...

No kidding...lol It's not like he's gonna say: "Yeah Axl is a great guy, he's been working his ass off on this project for the past ten years but Bucket didn't have the patience for the project to come out"
Not that it's necessarily the truth but the perfectionist/ changing vocals bit has been repeated over the past few years and I'm not surprised that crew guy said that.

[madagas]

As always, the truth lies somewhere in the middle. Ali, I agree Axl has probably worked his ass off and is a perfectionist who is continually trying to make it better. Thus, he is the one responsible for not releasing the record. Bucket obviously got tired of waiting around. It was his decision to leave just like it is Axl's decision to continually tweak and twiddle with the record. Ultimately, it is Axl's record and he can do what he wants. No blame on either side, but Buckethead surely isn't the reason CD is not out.  

[horsey]

i don't blame anybody.just want the end result.the CD  coming out.please !

[Ali]

As always, the truth lies somewhere in the middle. Ali, I agree Axl has probably worked his ass off and is a perfectionist who is continually trying to make it better. Thus, he is the one responsible for not releasing the record. Bucket obviously got tired of waiting around. It was his decision to leave just like it is Axl's decision to continually tweak and twiddle with the record. Ultimately, it is Axl's record and he can do what he wants. No blame on either side, but Buckethead surely isn't the reason CD is not out.  

Madagas,

I agree with you on two things.  First, the truth is most likely in the middle here, as it usually is in general.  Second, I don't see how Buckethead can be the reason the record isn't out.  

On another note, there is nothing cool about violating your contractual obligations.  I'm not saying that Axl Rose is blame-free and deserving of sympathy in this situation, but if Buckethead was irresponsible when it comes to recording and rehearsal sessions, that isn't fair to the rest of the band.  The rest of the guys are the ones who got screwed over the worst in this situation, excluding the fans.  

I also have to say that while I realize that different people have different tolerance levels for frustration, I find it a bit curious that it seems like the rest of the band, like Robin Finck, appear to still be on onboard with this project.  It's just that I would think that if Buckethead got sick of waiting around for GN'R to get fully up-and-running, then one of the other six guys would too.  Just a thought.

Ali

[noonespecial]

"On another note, there is nothing cool about violating your contractual obligations.  I'm not saying that Axl Rose is blame-free and deserving of sympathy in this situation, but if Buckethead was irresponsible when it comes to recording and rehearsal sessions, that isn't fair to the rest of the band.  The rest of the guys are the ones who got screwed over the worst in this situation, excluding the fans."

As you point out, Axl is not blame-free in this situation and he merely is getting back the energy that he put out in the first place...as you recall the "band" got screwed over the worst (twice) in 2002, excluding the fans...madagas is pretty much spot on without being judgemental (have fun tomorrow night dude\dudette) .

[madagas]

1. Finck has no where else to go. 2. He did leave back in 2000! 3. Bucket should have went ahead and played Rio or at least until his contract ran out. I am sure he was using Gnr to get his name out to the public 4. Huge/Tobias is no longer around-no one knows the reason why. 5. Freese left the project as well 6. At this point, I just want a record with Axl singing his songs on it. Gnr/Axl solo project/Axl playing guitar-I don't care who fucking plays on the album. I just want something! He has gone through alot of personnel changes since 1996. What are the commom denominators-Axl and no record.  

[madagas]

Duuuuuude...I am a dude! Tomorrow should be interesting. A little happy hour then alot of Bucket. Probably won't stay for Particle due to work on Friday.

[AdZ]

1. Finck has no where else to go.

I'm sure he could go tour with NIN...

[Will]

2. He did leave back in 2000!

Actually Robin left in August 1999, and came back about one year later.

[madagas]

whatever...Finck has no other creative outlet for his OWN writing/songs. He has alot at stake with Gnr from a personal and professional point of view.

[Ali]

whatever...Finck has no other creative outlet for his OWN writing/songs. He has alot at stake with Gnr from a personal and professional point of view.

That seems to be true that Robin Finck has no outlet for his own songs.  But, I'm sure that he could at least have a hand in writing new NIN material like Danny Lohner, for example, has in the past.  Obviously though, that isn't a situation where he'd have the same amount of input that he probably would with GN'R.

But, what about Tommy Stinson?  He's been with this project for six years now.  It's not like he has no outlet for his own music.  Sanctuary bought his new solo record, and he hasn't left GN'R.

Ali

[madagas]

Tommy is a stud..what can I say.

[Ali]

Tommy is a stud..what can I say.

Yeah, Tommy seems like a cool guy.  I'm looking forward to hearing his record.

Ali