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« on: June 17, 2004, 12:04:15 AM »

here's the link.  

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story?id=6185031&pageid=rs.Home&pageregion=single2

Read the 10th paragraph.

Mysteryon... you know anything about this?  or anyone??

Hope this isn't true


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« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2004, 12:12:18 AM »

Who the fuck is Slash to tell me what's goin' on with Chinese Democracy? If I know well, he's out of GNR about 8 years ago.
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« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2004, 12:23:00 AM »

Here's what Slash says: "I don't know any more than you do," Slash says of Chinese Democracy. "There's only a couple of songs with vocals on it -- I know that for a fact. But it will come out one of these days."

Only a couple of songs with vocals on it? I count at least six: Oh My God, Chinese Democracy, Mad., Rhiad, Silkworms and The Blues. The album w/o vocals thing is an urban legend...There's just no way Brian May and other insiders lied when they say they heard at least 12-15 songs with vocals...Plus I don't see Axl working ten years on a project w/o recording vocals. It just does not add up.
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« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2004, 12:30:08 AM »

yeah i think thats bullshit

but just cause he played those songs live doesnt mean he has actually finished the vocals  though, gotta remember that

shit i have over 40 songs complete for my cd and i only have vocals actually complete on 2

so hell anything is possible

but how would slash know that private info?

and i thought he didnt give a shit anymore
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« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2004, 12:31:38 AM »

Brian May said in 2000 axl had 2-3 albums worth of material with vocals on it.
This is just more proof is a LIAR
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« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2004, 12:33:47 AM »

Slash has been out of the loop for YEARS.....I think he's one of the worst possible sources for Axl info out there ( along with MYSTERIOUS POSTER, and others who I shall not name hihi.
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« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2004, 12:42:06 AM »

Dunno how slash knows this or heard it. I say he's full of shit on this one
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« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2004, 01:03:01 AM »

where did brian may say he has  2 or 3 albums with vocals?

vocals are usually last folks if he had the vocals done we'd have an album thats a fact


didnt tommy or one of the members say that all their parts were done but axls?


i believe its true

this doesnt mean he doesnt have lyrics


its just he hasnt gotten around to recording them
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« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2004, 01:08:52 AM »

Strange.

Whatever though. Maybe it was taken out of context.

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« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2004, 01:13:12 AM »

Brian May said in 2000 axl had 2-3 albums worth of material with vocals on it.
This is just more proof is a LIAR

Maybe Axl was upset with his vocals and deleted them. Who knows?

However I think and hope it's not true.
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« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2004, 01:32:10 AM »

where did brian may say he has  2 or 3 albums with vocals?

vocals are usually last folks if he had the vocals done we'd have an album thats a fact


didnt tommy or one of the members say that all their parts were done but axls?


i believe its true

this doesnt mean he doesnt have lyrics


its just he hasnt gotten around to recording them

he heard them
he said axl played him pretty much everything he had done
and that was 2 or 3 albums with vocals.
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« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2004, 01:34:31 AM »

"I don't know any more than you do," Slash says of Chinese Democracy. "There's only a couple of songs with vocals on it -- I know that for a fact. But it will come out one of these days.""

We follow GN'R pretty closely, I'd say..... and that "fact" is a lot more than any of us know.

The one thing that makes me think Slash is right would be the Rolling Stone article from a few years back. Axl played the tracks for the writer, but the vocals for those tracks hadn't been recorded yet. So that is one piece of evidence suggesting GN'R/Axl are taking a long time with the vocals.

But if that's the most negative rip Slash can come up with though, I'm guessing he really is out of the loop. As far as Axl is concerned, I'd prefer for him to get the vocals right rather than rush things because the album has taken so long. It's already been eleven years; there's no reason to sacrifice quality to get the album out a few months earlier.

Does anyone have a transcript of the "dive in and find the monkey" (?!) fax referenced in this article? I'd never heard anything about it before, especially the part where Axl promises to have Chinese Democracy completed.
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« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2004, 05:15:37 AM »

Slash wishes Roll Eyes
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« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2004, 05:59:10 AM »

God I'm so fucking sick of Slash & Duff talking shit about Axl for a bit of cheap publicity. I like Velvet Revolver, I really do, they're a good band so why the fuck do they feel the need to do this? They're not in GN'R and they don't know shit about what Axl's doing.

Ok, you're gonna have to forgive me for this, I don't remember all the facts, but last summer Axl went into some LA club and played some tracks from Democracy on CD, right? Don't you think we'd have heard more about it if the vocals weren't even on the damn songs? There's just no fucking way that Axl hasn't done the vocals yet, it's impossible. And HOW would Slash know?!

Tommy Stintson said the album was nearly complete. No vocals isn't nearly complete.

AND.....what about that clip that you can download from (I think) Newgnr.com, the radio advert used to publicise the 2002 tour? That included clips of the new songs, from the studio, and OH YEAH - THEY HAD FUCKING VOCALS.  rant rant rant
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« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2004, 07:41:03 AM »

God I'm so fucking sick of Slash & Duff talking shit about Axl for a bit of cheap publicity. I like Velvet Revolver, I really do, they're a good band so why the fuck do they feel the need to do this? They're not in GN'R and they don't know shit about what Axl's doing.

Ok, you're gonna have to forgive me for this, I don't remember all the facts, but last summer Axl went into some LA club and played some tracks from Democracy on CD, right? Don't you think we'd have heard more about it if the vocals weren't even on the damn songs? There's just no fucking way that Axl hasn't done the vocals yet, it's impossible. And HOW would Slash know?!

Tommy Stintson said the album was nearly complete. No vocals isn't nearly complete.

AND.....what about that clip that you can download from (I think) Newgnr.com, the radio advert used to publicise the 2002 tour? That included clips of the new songs, from the studio, and OH YEAH - THEY HAD FUCKING VOCALS.  rant rant rant


axl played tracks!

didnt mention either way about vocals

maybe it was just instrumental tracks, which is why axl wasnt worried about playing them and getting them ripped off

that advert may be clippings of one song, slash said 2

jus cause we've heard 4 or 5 new songs doesnt mean he's actually finished recording them

this doesnt mean axl doesnt have the songs finished, he just hasnt recorded them

slash probably knows people still in axl's camp and im sure the convo has came up

slash has nothing to gain from lying about this
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« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2004, 07:45:30 AM »

First off all there's Brian may's 3 albums of finished songs with Axl's  "OUTRAGEOUS" vocals see newgnr for the radio innerviews to sownload). Then there's Moby saying it took ages to coax Axl to sing as he fe;lt he was being pushed to fast. There's the Boston promo songs, recorded no doubt years after and with different players and producers to Oh My God.

I mean, HELLO?! I imagine Slash really believes what he says and may have a good source, but we probably all know infinitely more about what HAS been said about GnR the past years. I bet he has no idea Brian May went near it.


I think it's funny in this interview how Matt tries too hard to come across as harcore as Slash, Duff and Weiland.It may be true that he snorted half of Columbia, but he seems so anxious to be remembered as a bad boy like the others not just 'the drummer'.
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« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2004, 07:57:15 AM »

yes,slash know that,as i know!
slash i like you,but slash fuck you
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« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2004, 08:25:45 AM »

Sounds like Slash is getting really sick about being asked about the old GNR and Axl, etc...sounds like a very annoyed and off the cuff response to me...he had to know that the media would ask him that kind of crap once VR's album came out though...ah, just another mad, mad day on the road....
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« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2004, 08:46:46 AM »

God I'm so fucking sick of Slash & Duff talking shit about Axl for a bit of cheap publicity.

Yeah, because Rolling Stone wouldnt have run the VR feature if Slash and Duff didnt make those comments... Roll Eyes  I also didnt know that qualified as "talking shit," but leave it to fans such as yourself.

Ok, you're gonna have to forgive me for this, I don't remember all the facts, but last summer Axl went into some LA club and played some tracks from Democracy on CD, right? Don't you think we'd have heard more about it if the vocals weren't even on the damn songs?

I dont think weve heard anything about the songs as it is, so what difference would it make?

Tommy Stintson said the album was nearly complete. No vocals isn't nearly complete.

Doug Goldstein said the same thing in 2000...

AND.....what about that clip that you can download from (I think) Newgnr.com, the radio advert used to publicise the 2002 tour? That included clips of the new songs, from the studio, and OH YEAH - THEY HAD FUCKING VOCALS.  rant rant rant

Ive never seen or heard anything that definitively identifies those clips as studio ones...

Slash is probably wrong about it...but hes hardly "talking shit" and if he is wrong we should see the album soon.  If not, then maybe he wasnt far off...
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« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2004, 08:55:34 AM »

Well
1)Axl didnt have a problem laying down vocals for Oh My God when he wanted 2

2) his voice sounde amazing on the new songs(and old) live

so why wouldnt there be vocals on more than a couple of songs....
it doesnt make any sense... he  has the money to be in the best studios and have all the time he wants... its bullshit

not to mention we've known lyrics to the songs he played live
and song titles to a lot of the other songs.... so its not like he's having writers block and cant write words.

slash is a loser
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