Slash & Duff to sue Axl!

[Naupis]

Let me repeat for those who can't read..........

They are not trying to say they own the name. They readily admit Axl does. What they are alleging is that the original partnership owned the back catalog and right to license, and that he legally signed away his right to make decisions on that stuff when he left the original partnership. And that he has been in breach the entire time when excersing authority he doesn't have in regards to properties held by the orinigal GNR partnership.


I don't wanna see anymore "OH MY GOD, THEY ARE TRYING TO SAY THEY OWN THE NAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

[killingvector]

slash and duff want it all. the songs, the films, the licensing, the vids....they want it all.

they say axl left the band and the partnership in 95.

[Naupis]

If they can really prove he left the partnership in 95, which they claim they have a written document that can....

Axl is potentially screwed and in for a world of hurt because he will essentially have lost control of his band from 85 until he releases CD with his GNR. Not good, not good at all.

[Will]

No matter what, if what they claim to have is legit, that sounds not good at all for Axl, GN'R, and a future album.

[charl!edontsurf]

With "His" GnR?  

Axl seems to be done. He is going to be poor unless he releases that album we all want to hear.   Fortunately it wont be called "Guns n Roses" anymore.

[killingvector]

why weren't duff and slash licensing the gnr name all the way back to 95 if they were the only ones left? surely they must have know that axl took the name with him but quit the GnR partnership.

[Naupis]

That is the issue, they are claiming he has been doing things legally he wasn't able to do in regards to the partnership and thats why their suing him. Maybe after seeing how well greatest hits was doing they had a lawyer look over the old contracts and they realized they had a case with some merit that they never even realized. They aren't rocket scientists exactly, and I am going to go out on a limb and say they had no idea really until a lawyer pointed out to them that by him withdrawing from the partnership, that he actually forfeited those control rights. Like has been said, if the paper trail proves its true, he is totally screwed.

[killingvector]

screwed and living in a condo again....hope he gets better neighbors.

[D]

why would axl sign off on something and lose say in the bands catalogue? thats bullshit!

i think slash and duff are trying to sabotage axl, if they had control we'd see gnr stuff on fuckin tv commercials and everything

lets see slash and duff put gnr stuff on tv commercials and whore it out that way, and then i dont wanna see anyone of u on here that support this shit whining about it

axl has made mistakes which he admits to, but god damn it slash and duff do not deserve a get out of jail free card, they arent little angels who were scorned by axl and im sick and tired of reading how they are the victims!

[Eva GnRAxlRosette]

They are not contesting that he owns the name!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can fucking read dude... I see that now.  I was posting what I did at the same time as i just started reading it.  It was just the impression I got right off the bat.

So yeah my post was wrong... they aren't trying to get the name...

now back the fuck off

I'm really upset and I don't need anyone on my case

[killingvector]

we have to find this letter and destroy it....who's with me?

[Eva GnRAxlRosette]

i think slash and duff are trying to sabotage axl

thats it in nutshell

[Will]

There's no letter...

[D]

axls a smart fuckin guy, i bet he's smarter than slash and duff combined when it comes to shit like this

i bet axl has fucked them and made them actually sign their rights away to the songs etc when they signed away the rights to the name
bet it was in very small print!

if he did that would be the ultimate fuck u and id laugh my god damn ass off!

axl isnt stupid he wouldnt sign away his say in anything

[killingvector]

axl's letter of withdrawl  

[charl!edontsurf]

This a great day as I see it. We finally have NEWS. Understand people? We actually are behind the scenes kinda. Its a pretty good rush.

I also agree that Slash/Duff probably didn't even know what they owned until recently.

[Naupis]

This might actually be a good thing for CD. If Axl really did resign from the original partnership, and they have the letter to prove it, then he is going to owe them some serious cash for 9 years of all that has happened. He is going to have to release CD to get some positive cash flow coming in to pay out punitive damages.

I just think it would be the ultimate irony that Slash and Duff would end up controlling the back catalog, video's, licensing and all that because of a clerical error on his part. He was the one always nuts about getting people to sign this that and the next thing to gain control of everything, and may have inadvertantly signed away his control without even realizing it.

[D]

just because he resigned from a partnership doesnt mean he gave up his rights to anything

dave grohl and krist novoselic dissolved their partnership withcourtneylove and neither party lost control over the nirvana estate
he just decided to not be partners with them he decided to be independent where he didnt have to consult them

[Naupis]

From what Slash and Duff's brief are saying though, that by re-signing from the partnership he forfeits any right to make decisions about what is to be done with the various properties owned by the partnership. They even say that there was a provision inthere about how partners who left would be dealt with and what they could expect to receive. It's like Slash and Duff forfeited their right to the GNR name by leaving the band, it is very possible that Axl has forfeited decision making rights by leaving the partnership according to the plaintiffs legal team. Logically, it makes sense.

The difference between your example and this one is Slash/Duff are not looking to dissolve the partnership as technically they never left. If the Original GNR partnership owns all of the aforementioned stuff, and Axl left the partnership, that leaves Slash and Duff as the only two partners left. Unless they want to dissolve it, Axl may be up a creek without a paddle because if the court rules the partnership owns that stuff, he has no way of contesting what they do with it as he signed away he veto powers by leaving the partnership. He may have actually outsmarted himself.

[D]

not true slash and duff didnt forfeit their rights by leaving gnr

axl made them all turn their rights over to him one night at a concert or he wouldnt perform so they signed away the rights to the name then

i still dont think that will hold up, i dont think u can sign away your rights to something like that, why would he? god damn if he did he will be the biggest fuckin loser and idiot of all time