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« Reply #40 on: March 11, 2004, 11:46:40 AM »

I am probably the biggest fan of Slash and this song is not good. This sounds like the guitar player from STP, Creed, Nickleback. I see this single as pandering to a younger audience who might not get the punk/hard rock image of GNR. I hope the rest of the album is better, but so far both songs released are mediocre at best. At least the riff in Set Me Free sounds like Slash.
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« Reply #41 on: March 11, 2004, 12:47:51 PM »

isnt this what happend to the St. Anger album too? people said "this is thrash coming back to its basic! meatl is back" and then they got a Queen of the Stone age-copying metallica.....

but they might have picked this song for a first single to make them "hit" bigger with the kids though...
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« Reply #42 on: March 11, 2004, 01:43:55 PM »

First of all I hate to compare "Contraband" to AFD but you can't help it with Slash in it.  But come on, how long was Welcome to the Jungle falling on deaf ears until Sweet Child O'Mine was released as a single.  That is when the band become the huge act they were.  And does anybody here think that Jungle is just ok, but alot of people did back then.  And didn't we here that the next single is going to be "Fall to Pieces".  The albums start to move when the younger audiences start to like a song.  Which I think is there plan.  The start off with a good rock song then lure the younger audience in, it seems to me to be all about business.

BTW I like the song, especially the chorus, plus Slash's badass solo.
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« Reply #43 on: March 11, 2004, 03:54:20 PM »

After listening to this song a few more times, i dont think its just a rock n roll song now. i think its really one great fucking song all around. the solo is badass too!

and i love how the guitar sounds like a chainsaw right before the riff kicks in  hihi
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« Reply #44 on: March 11, 2004, 04:15:24 PM »

Chorus is really lame...

Was that Matt who talked about that they wanted to do something fresh/new

well this is from 80s
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« Reply #45 on: March 11, 2004, 04:33:51 PM »

nah when i think of 80s i think of Poison and skid row doing "I remember you"
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« Reply #46 on: March 11, 2004, 04:40:36 PM »

Nah the song is actually pretty ok. It's pretty driven as well. The only thing I have a problem with is that Scot doesnt seem to have such an amazing voice or if he does he is not using it here. I mean no screams, no nothing....for instance right before the solo when he goes 'meeeee' oh c'mon...I hope he can do better than that.....


But overall, it's a great song. Btw, who ever was comparing this to AFD and WTTJ success after SCOM.. Sure I can see it working that way..but that said, but this is no WTTJ   Wink
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« Reply #47 on: March 11, 2004, 05:24:48 PM »

we'll you'll problably never hear scott scream. he's not a metal singer. I recommend the STP greatest hit DVD/CD package. Once you watch the video you see how great a frontman scott is and the many different voices he has.
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« Reply #48 on: March 11, 2004, 05:46:43 PM »

First of all I hate to compare "Contraband" to AFD but you can't help it with Slash in it.  

You can compare them in the sense that Contraband and AFD are both debut albums, but the VR guys arent poor and living on the streets.  Slash as a father pushing 40 is gonna be different from Slash as a drunken rebel in his 20s.  So I think the comparison ends there.

SCOM is a love song.  For a hard rock band to make such a great love song caught many people's attention especially when compared to the ferociousness of WTTJ.
It did its job as a single.

Slither, the single, will catch people's attention for different reasons, a primary one being that VR is a supergroup.  Duff & co want to be heard on modern rock stations, and this will do it.  

"Luring a younger audience" isnt such a sinister thing.  After all, many of us (as youngsters) were lured into GNR by their singles.

Slash's solo puts Slither a cut above most of the radio-friendly songs we hear these days  I've begun to like it more, but SMF is still better.   smoking
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« Reply #49 on: March 11, 2004, 06:49:47 PM »

First of all I hate to compare "Contraband" to AFD but you can't help it with Slash in it.  



Duff & co want to be heard on modern rock stations, and this will do it.  


Finally someone gets it.

The song (guitar wise) is built for modern rock station airplay.  Swrling intro, locomotive riff, stealth solo.

Slash is no longer Joe Perry's bastard son.
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« Reply #50 on: March 11, 2004, 10:58:41 PM »

I think I am in the minority but I really liked this song.  It wasn't the greatest song I have ever heard but I enjoyed everything about it, especially Slash.
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« Reply #51 on: March 12, 2004, 01:53:51 AM »

First of all I hate to compare "Contraband" to AFD but you can't help it with Slash in it.  But come on, how long was Welcome to the Jungle falling on deaf ears until Sweet Child O'Mine was released as a single.  That is when the band become the huge act they were.  And does anybody here think that Jungle is just ok, but alot of people did back then.  And didn't we here that the next single is going to be "Fall to Pieces".  The albums start to move when the younger audiences start to like a song.  Which I think is there plan.  The start off with a good rock song then lure the younger audience in, it seems to me to be all about business.

That's a good point.  I really hope that's the case.  I never thought Welcome to the Jungle was that great for Gn'R (I mean, it's a great song, but compared to so many other awesome Gn'R songs?), and I would probably fall into the category that wouldn't be impressed by WTTJ but would be by SCOM, if I had been listening back then.

The more I've listened to this song, the more it's grown on me, which is a good sign.  It still lacks the immediate connection I've felt with New Gn'R songs (sorry to bring up that comparison, but it's a valid one), but reminds me more of how UYIs took a few listens before I started to "get" the songs.  I'm still extremely excited about Contraband.

Edit: Btw, this may be a song intended to get airplay on modern rock stations, etc, but I still think it's possible to do that, while wowing us Gn'R fans - which I think it's fair to say, they haven't done.  I'm still looking forward to the album, and I may yet to be extremely impressed, but to argue this song is lacking the "wow" factor because it's made for modern rock stations is a bit of a copout, imo.
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« Reply #52 on: March 12, 2004, 04:39:21 AM »

A special thanks to someone (I think at the VR forum) who sent me the link for the mp3, and I have now listened to the whole song, finally!

I'm kinda wishing I didnt hear the live version because I've already got a pre-concieved idea as to how it should sound, but listening without the live bootleg in mind, I think it kicks ass!

The production is a little too polished for my liking, and the drums arent as in-yer-face as I'd like, but this isn't an album quality version I heard, so I wont pass full judgement until I hear it.

But after several listens, it is quite impressive.
It doesnt really sound like GN'R or STP too much, it actually sounds quite modern, which I quite like, and Slash rips out the best solo I think he's played since his GN'R days.
And the chorus is brilliant, I can't get it out of head!

Bring on the album!
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« Reply #53 on: March 12, 2004, 07:12:36 AM »

Damn Damn Damn!!!!

With each listen this song gets better and better, I love it, the guitar textures, the solo, the chorus, the verses, f**kin everything. It's kinda grown on me like how I was with Set Me Free, which I thought was just ok when I first heard it.

If you have any doubts about this song, just crank it up f**kin loud and rock out! ok

I'm surprised at how modern it sounds, I guess Jarmo has been right about Slash trying new things instead of sticking to his old set ways.
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« Reply #54 on: March 12, 2004, 08:04:36 AM »

Sorry Falcon, but I find out and out "pandering" to a modern rock format or any format for that matter a disgrace and a complete sellout. God knows I hope Axl can come up with a better "sound" than this shit. If the "tone" of the record is like this, then I won't be purchasing it. ANY musical comparisons to AFD are a complete joke.  Grin
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« Reply #55 on: March 12, 2004, 09:49:14 AM »

there's some great rockin parts, and a real cool groove to the song overall.

but like others have mentioned, the chorus is kinda weak. it just kinda drags on and gets a little boring - which reminds me of some stp songs.

it's probably more like 75% stp and 25% gnr. i'm a big stp fan, but i'd much rather have those percentages reversed.

i do think it's fresh sounding. something about it reminds me ALOT of set me free - the tempo or something is similar.

overall i think it's a very good song. i like it more and more with each listen.

i've heard 2 studio songs.....10 more to go. so far so good, but at this point i'm not blown away by anything.  
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« Reply #56 on: March 12, 2004, 12:29:45 PM »

Anyone transcribe the lyrics?

SLITHER              

(intro)

oh!   oh!    oh!

When you look you see right through me,
Cut the rope, that fell to my knees,
Boning broken* every single time  
I always keep me under* finger,
That?s the sparkle you want chew me ,my
Seasoned type of flesh*  in my mind

Yeah, here* come to one world*,
Here comes to wash away the sins of you and I
This time, you?ll see

oh!   oh!    oh!

When you seek me you'll destroy me,
Rape my mind and spell those poppies
Born in blood in every single time
I always keep me under finger,
That?s the spot we, you might linger,  might
See some type of pleasure in my mind

Yeah, here* come to water,
It comes to wash away the sins of you and I
This time, you'll see    
Like holy water,
it'll/Till* only punch you back to, then you ever tried
This time, with me

(guitar solo)

When you look you see right through me,
Cut the rope, that fell to my knees,
Bone and blood in every single time

Yeah here come to water,
It comes to wash away the sins of you and I      
This time, you?ll see
Like holy water,  
ill* only punch you back to, then you ever tried
This time, with me

oh!  oh!  oh!

Hey, this is what I got . not very sure.  ???esp. the words with*  .
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« Reply #57 on: March 12, 2004, 01:14:36 PM »

Sorry Falcon, but I find out and out "pandering" to a modern rock format or any format for that matter a disgrace and a complete sellout. God knows I hope Axl can come up with a better "sound" than this shit. If the "tone" of the record is like this, then I won't be purchasing it. ANY musical comparisons to AFD are a complete joke.  Grin

No need to be sorry, everyone has their owm opinion and you're entitled to yours as well.

However, I find the terms "pandering" and "sellout" a bit premature.  

If they were having "special guest" rappers, a DJ or releasing cover songs as singles (see Bizkits "Behind Blue Eyes) I'd agree with you.

Seeing how this is obviously not the case, I don't hold the same opinion.  
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« Reply #58 on: March 12, 2004, 01:14:58 PM »

Any idea why the song is called Slither?

I dont think Slash wanted to write a song about his snakes  Tongue
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« Reply #59 on: March 12, 2004, 02:44:01 PM »

Any idea why the song is called Slither?

I dont think Slash wanted to write a song about his snakes  Tongue

My guess: It lends to the songs dark, cavernous imagery and feel...and it just sounds cool.

Heres the lyrics to how I hear them...

Hey! Hey! Hey!

When you look you see right through me,
Cut the rope, then fell to my knees,
Born and broken every single time  
I always keep me under finger,
That's the spot where you would soon be might
See some type of pleasure in my mind

Yeah, here comes the water,
It comes to wash away the sins of you and I
This time, you'll see

Hey! Hey! Hey!

When you seek me you'll destroy me,
Rape my mind and spell the poppies,
Bone and blooded every single time
Always keep me under finger,
That's the spot where you might linger might
See some type of pleasure in my mind

Yeah, here comes the water,
It comes to wash away the sins of you and I
this time, you'll see
Like holy water,
It only finds you faster than you've ever tried
This time, with me

When you look  you see right through me,
Cut the rope, then fell to my knees,
Bone and blooded every single time

Yeah, here comes the water,
It comes to wash away the sins of you and I      
This time,  you'll see        
Like holy water
It only finds you faster than you ever tried
This time, with me

Hey! Hey! Hey!
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