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« on: March 17, 2004, 06:51:02 PM »

The only solution to save Guns n' Roses is... TO REFORM THE BAND BEFORE CONTABAND IS RELEASED.
Either Axl AND The former members (Duff, Slash...) decide to TALK or Guns n' Roses will die in the next 2-3 months.

Axl, take your responsability. It's a run against time...
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« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2004, 06:53:27 PM »

nah man it's over........there's no where to go anymore.  BH was the greatest thing about the new GNR.  I'm sorry but you have to face the facts.  GNR is officially over now. There's no way to rebound successfully from this.
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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2004, 06:53:59 PM »

Because one member is rumored to have left and the fact that there's a lawsuit doesn't mean this is the end of GNR. Wait for something tangible before you start talking about reuniting the old band.
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« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2004, 06:55:52 PM »

nah man it's over........there's no where to go anymore.  BH was the greatest thing about the new GNR.  I'm sorry but you have to face the facts.  GNR is officially over now. There's no way to rebound successfully from this.

You're right. Axl screwed the whole thing. The only thing he can do is release solo albums.
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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2004, 06:59:18 PM »

Because one member is rumored to have left and the fact that there's a lawsuit doesn't mean this is the end of GNR. Wait for something tangible before you start talking about reuniting the old band.
Uh hello maybe you should just stop dreaming and face the fact.  After the past years of all the bullshit happening this is the most devastating blow to GNR.  I mean this band was on point and performing well but now it's all back to the drawing board.  Do you think Brain is gonna stay now?  hell no.  It's over unless somehow axl goes crawling back to the original guys.  There's no way in hell to rebuild this catastrophe again?  Are you willing to wait another 8 years for the new new band to get their shit together?  It's now or never to reunite or Axl's done.
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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2004, 06:59:26 PM »

Who fucking gives a shit? Huh



Axl should just stop smoking so much CRACK and release the fucking album.



Release it as a solo effort Axl, you fucking dumbass CRACKHEAD.
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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2004, 07:02:58 PM »

I'm just saying, don't bite so deep into all the rumors. The fact is, you don't know who is in or who is out (if anyone), so don't jump to conclusions.
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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2004, 07:04:14 PM »

Axl can save GN'R as soon as he wants to. If BH is gone, that sucks because it's a set back but it doesn't mean it's over unless Axl gives up completely.
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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2004, 07:05:06 PM »

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It's now or never to reunite or Axl's done.

this is a run against time...AXL TAKE YOUR PHONE!
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« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2004, 07:07:51 PM »

Hmmm...one guitarist out of three has left. That still leaves two guitarists. I'm sure Finck and Fortus can handle the parts.

I really like Buckethead, but he was more about noodling and shredding, rather than the blusier styles that Finck and Fortus play, which is what suits GN'R better anyway.

Buckethead was too freakish to me anyway, even though I liked him, but it didnt suit GN'R.
I'd like to see them continue without him, but in the ever elusive world of Axl Rose, who knows what will happen???
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« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2004, 07:13:55 PM »

This does look bad...Axl needs to get hold of members of old GNR if he wants to recover from this - its got to the point where even i am beginning to view whats going on as a fucking joke......

Though on the positive side - Axl has 10 years worth of material, Chinese Democracy only needs vocals to be released, Buckethead's role is finished.
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« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2004, 07:14:09 PM »

Of course, Finck and Fortus could definitely bear the burden.
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« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2004, 07:14:45 PM »

Okay but here's what I'm saying.  And this is no fucking conspiracy theory or anything but look at it this way.  Don't you think that if CD was gonna be released this year followed by a comeback tour and round 2 or whatever that BH woulda been willing to stick by this project.  I seriously think that Axl still doesn't have CD complete yet and is still lost in his own little fucking world.  I mean to be in a band for four years and then leave is a good sign to me that the ball wasn't even about to begin rolling anytime soon.  Who knows.  And by the way to think Finck can hold the ropes is a sad thing to imagine.
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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2004, 07:17:42 PM »

If we go with the "Axl = GNR" approach, then Bucket leaving (or staying) doesnt matter one bit.

But some people like to think of a band as a unit, a brotherhood.  It hurts when a member leaves, it takes something away.

If Axl treats this band like a business (having people on contract), then replacements can come and go without any emotional attachment.
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« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2004, 07:21:38 PM »

Of course, Finck and Fortus could definitely bear the burden.

Very true....but lets face it they ain't word class guitarits, competant yes, but hardly Slash, Buckethead, Perry, Wylde quality...and GNR needs that quality guitarist

Finck as GNR guitar dynamo.....man its horrible to think of....i don't know whats worse..Bucketheads left or that Finck's still there....
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« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2004, 07:25:26 PM »

To those resting easy on the grounds that losing one of three guitarists isn't the end of the world, I agree. However, it isn't simply the departure of the most talanted of the three that makes this a pretty clear indication that we've heard the last from Guns n' Roses. It's the fact that he left, by all indications, because the band isn't going anywhere. Any rumors connected with Buckethead discontent started and ended with the fact that the band never plays live and never releases new music. It reasonably follows that if the band was soon going to play live and/or publish new music that Buckethead's gripes would end and he would stay with the band. Ergo, Buckethead leaving the band serves as a pretty obvious clue that all the other obvious clues have been worthwhile and pointing to the same conclusion: this band is dead.

I'll say now what I said the night of the Phili riot: We won't see Axl Rose, Guns n' Roses or, most importantly, any new music, until Axl is dead. I hope that Crowebar is right, that Axl is sending himself to an early grave with mountains of crack. That way, with him and his bullshit out of the way, his publisher and handlers can loot the vault and release everything he's holding back.

Yes, yes, I know. I'm awful and insensitive and inconsiderate, wishing death upon poor, innocent and pure Axl Rose. *Yawn.* I guess I'm just selfish. I like listening to good music, and the odds of that happening are far greater, as I see it, with Axl dead than with Axl alive.

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« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2004, 07:27:40 PM »

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If Axl treats this band like a business (having people on contract), then replacements can come and go without any emotional attachment.

Everytime I said that, some people bashed me. I have been right since the begining of this "new" Guns n' Roses. Rock n' Roll is something you can't buy. It's a human feeling, an association of human beeings. that's why the original band was SO great TOGETHER. making rock n' roll and playing rock n' roll is not a business. promotion, concert are business. but MAKING Rock n' Roll is not a business.
It's a human feeling. YOU CAN'T PUT A CONTRACT ON IT.
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« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2004, 07:36:47 PM »

Okay, not to discredit Bucket in any way, but he hardly ever played  Undecided I mean, I absolutely love the guy, but he wasn't *THE* x-factor, at least from what we've all seen and heard from this band. You can only shred on so many songs before it becomes cheesy. Think about it: I can't even pick out Bucket's playing, when he's playing with everyone else. On a solo, yes, but he's inaudible about 80% of the time he's playing non-solo. I can't hear him play a note on 'The Blues', 'Madagascar' (except the solo), or 'Chinese Democracy' (except solo after Finck's).
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« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2004, 07:38:47 PM »

During the US tour I think bucket handled the majority of the solo's from what I observed.
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« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2004, 07:39:57 PM »

Okay, not to discredit Bucket in any way, but he hardly ever played  Undecided I mean, I absolutely love the guy, but he wasn't *THE* x-factor, at least from what we've all seen and heard from this band. You can only shred on so many songs before it becomes cheesy. Think about it: I can't even pick out Bucket's playing, when he's playing with everyone else. On a solo, yes, but he's inaudible about 80% of the time he's playing non-solo. I can't hear him play a note on 'The Blues', 'Madagascar' (except the solo), or 'Chinese Democracy' (except solo after Finck's).

I believe what you are trying to say is that only Axl matters in nuGNR.  It's not Guns N' Roses, it's not Hired Guns N' Roses, it's Roses and Roses.
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