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« Reply #200 on: April 15, 2009, 05:49:30 PM »

He doesn't parody Axl Rose.

That video is hilarious though, and the genius part of the video is, Everyone has bought into saying Eminem is "spoofing" and making fun of people.

IF u dig deeper into his genius, u will realize he is actually making a statement with this video. He isn't putting a bunch of celebrities on blast, the video is actually a social commentary on celeb obsessed culture and the way paparazzi and people buy into stuff.

The whole song is based off the stupid public outcries over dumb shit

the jessica simpson weight gain, how Palin was made out to be this hot sex symbol, the reality obsessed culture etc.

We're the ones who Made You"  is basically echoing a lot of what Axl said and how people think they own you cause you are famous and can say or do whatever they want about you or to you  because you are famous.
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« Reply #201 on: April 15, 2009, 05:56:47 PM »

Social critiques have been around for hundreds, if not thousands of years.

Eminem doing one via a song is hardly genius or groundbreaking.
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« Reply #202 on: April 15, 2009, 06:36:56 PM »


He doesn't parody Axl Rose.


I didn't think so...I didn't see it.  And I couldn't watch the video another time to be sure.
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« Reply #203 on: April 15, 2009, 06:49:36 PM »

Most of the media reported it as him mocking "Brett Michaels", plus the bleach blonde wig should have ended the argument before it begun.
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« Reply #204 on: April 15, 2009, 07:10:50 PM »

Social critiques have been around for hundreds, if not thousands of years.

Eminem doing one via a song is hardly genius or groundbreaking.

obviously all genius isn't created equal. But considering how shitty music is today, i find this to be quite genius. Maybe that is an indictment on today's music scene.
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« Reply #205 on: April 15, 2009, 07:18:48 PM »

Social critiques have been around for hundreds, if not thousands of years.

Eminem doing one via a song is hardly genius or groundbreaking.

obviously all genius isn't created equal. But considering how shitty music is today, i find this to be quite genius. Maybe that is an indictment on today's music scene.

Yeah, I've lost all hope on today's music scene hihi

If you like Eminem, I highly recommend Royce Da 5'9"

He's not as fast as Eminem, but I think his beats are way better and he doesn't rap about the same shit over and over again.

I & Me, Boom and Hip Hop are all solid tracks.
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« Reply #206 on: April 16, 2009, 09:21:09 AM »

In the "My band" video for d12 he has a little GN'R parody, but it's all in good spirtits. He has been compared to Axl by Kurt Loder in an interview, and he also says of himself in one of his songs "Updated Axl Rose...". Personally, there are too many similarities to even mention. The type of childhood, coming from the midwest, making it in L.A., all the controversy, being icons for a generation, homophobia accusations, racism accusations, dueting with Elton John... The list goes on.
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« Reply #207 on: April 16, 2009, 03:18:23 PM »

i think eminem has just ran out of things to say. his first few albums were excellent but he has tailed off a bit. there havent been any new songs that are up to par with his great ones like Sing For The moment, till i collapse or stan. its always great hearing dr. dre's beats but eminem just doesnt have it anymore IMO. maybe this new album will change my mind.
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« Reply #208 on: April 16, 2009, 04:18:46 PM »

i think eminem has just ran out of things to say. his first few albums were excellent but he has tailed off a bit. there havent been any new songs that are up to par with his great ones like Sing For The moment, till i collapse or stan. its always great hearing dr. dre's beats but eminem just doesnt have it anymore IMO. maybe this new album will change my mind.

Sing for the Moment was just a couple albums  ago dude


I think his song "Stan" is one of the most brilliant songs ever written
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« Reply #209 on: April 16, 2009, 05:26:59 PM »

In the "My band" video for d12 he has a little GN'R parody, but it's all in good spirtits. He has been compared to Axl by Kurt Loder in an interview, and he also says of himself in one of his songs "Updated Axl Rose...". Personally, there are too many similarities to even mention. The type of childhood, coming from the midwest, making it in L.A., all the controversy, being icons for a generation, homophobia accusations, racism accusations, dueting with Elton John... The list goes on.
what song?  Huh

I think his song "Stan" is one of the most brilliant songs ever written

dude, how long is your list of brilliant songs?
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« Reply #210 on: April 16, 2009, 06:16:20 PM »

Ah a music snob i see.


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« Reply #211 on: April 16, 2009, 10:32:25 PM »

In the "My band" video for d12 he has a little GN'R parody, but it's all in good spirtits. He has been compared to Axl by Kurt Loder in an interview, and he also says of himself in one of his songs "Updated Axl Rose...". Personally, there are too many similarities to even mention. The type of childhood, coming from the midwest, making it in L.A., all the controversy, being icons for a generation, homophobia accusations, racism accusations, dueting with Elton John... The list goes on.
what song?  Huh

I think his song "Stan" is one of the most brilliant songs ever written

dude, how long is your list of brilliant songs?
It's long enough to circle the earth 4 times over. rofl
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« Reply #212 on: April 16, 2009, 10:42:40 PM »

So because its hip hop it can't be brilliant?

Stan and Lose Yourself are brilliant songs no matter what genre.
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« Reply #213 on: April 16, 2009, 11:38:47 PM »

i dont know about Lose yourself but i would consider "Stan" brilliant.
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« Reply #214 on: April 17, 2009, 12:57:02 AM »

So because its hip hop it can't be brilliant?

That's the most reactionary, retarded attitude in the world.
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« Reply #215 on: April 17, 2009, 07:40:38 AM »

Ah a music snob i see.
what? where? me?  Huh
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« Reply #216 on: April 17, 2009, 09:49:56 AM »

So because its hip hop it can't be brilliant?

That's the most reactionary, retarded attitude in the world.

Explain exactly how that's retarded
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« Reply #217 on: April 17, 2009, 01:37:15 PM »

So you admit it's reactionary? Why don't you focus on that? "Retarded" was used as a figure of speech, to best describe the mindstate of the subjects involved.
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« Reply #218 on: April 17, 2009, 02:07:11 PM »

So are u saying my opinion is retarded, or people who automatically dismiss hip hop?


couldn't quite follow that one.


There have been plenty of brilliant hip hop songs BTW
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« Reply #219 on: April 17, 2009, 03:14:06 PM »

I just think he's lost that edge for the same reason a lot of artists lose that edge.

They become wealthy, don't live dangerous street lifestyles, get clean and mentally stable etc...

M is still awesome though.

And fuck that Asher Roth guy for ripping him off.
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