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unfortunately i doubt we will be getting CD this Spring ...in fact i doubt we get it this summer too
if Axl doesnt finish it up by the time they hit the road then we wont be getting it until either next fall or spring...and that blows....all this excitement....i really dont knwo why he wants to tour without the album. I wanna see them play some old songs but I dont want another 02 setlist. And I also dont want all the new songs in a live fashion for the 1st time....
why cant he just finish the album, release the single and album before the tour, go tour in europe then tour in the states....what is so hard about that i dont get it....
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Quote from: younggunner on February 22, 2006, 12:51:16 PM
unfortunately i doubt we will be getting CD this Spring ...in fact i doubt we get it this summer too
if Axl doesnt finish it up by the time they hit the road then we wont be getting it until either next fall or spring...and that blows....all this excitement....i really dont knwo why he wants to tour without the album. I wanna see them play some old songs but I dont want another 02 setlist. And I also dont want all the new songs in a live fashion for the 1st time....
why cant he just finish the album, release the single and album before the tour, go tour in europe then tour in the states....what is so hard about that i dont get it....
CD should be out till the live performances. But if the old band plays these dates then it's quite logical not to release CD this spring.
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what old band
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stop and think about this situation guys. it does make sence. personally i hope its not true, but, it does make sence. and do you honetly think the old band will get together
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It don't look good for a release anymore.. Thats for sure. Buzz kill and a half.
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don't worry, we have a tour to look forward to
and you know axl will play more cd titles at the shows.
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Don't we already have a GH? What's the sense in releasing the same material AGAIN to gage fan interest?
You want fan interest? Release Chinese Democracy!
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Quote from: younggunner on February 22, 2006, 12:51:16 PM
unfortunately i doubt we will be getting CD this Spring ...in fact i doubt we get it this summer too
if Axl doesnt finish it up by the time they hit the road then we wont be getting it until either next fall or spring...and that blows....all this excitement....i really dont knwo why he wants to tour without the album. I wanna see them play some old songs but I dont want another 02 setlist. And I also dont want all the new songs in a live fashion for the 1st time....
why cant he just finish the album, release the single and album before the tour, go tour in europe then tour in the states....what is so hard about that i dont get it....
If that is the case, then maybe hes just doing this euro tour to get some extra cash, get his ego up a bit (euro fan base LOVES gnr)...then come home at the end of summer, release CD, do some big interviews and start a fall tour in the US. I mean, he HAS to release it this year....
right??
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Quote from: younggunner on February 22, 2006, 12:51:16 PM
unfortunately i doubt we will be getting CD this Spring ...in fact i doubt we get it this summer too
if Axl doesnt finish it up by the time they hit the road then we wont be getting it until either next fall or spring...and that blows....all this excitement....i really dont knwo why he wants to tour without the album. I wanna see them play some old songs but I dont want another 02 setlist. And I also dont want all the new songs in a live fashion for the 1st time....
why cant he just finish the album, release the single and album before the tour, go tour in europe then tour in the states....what is so hard about that i dont get it....
I'm surprised you weren't flamed for that post, since it deals with reality.
Honestly, I want to believe its coming before the Euro tour. Could Axl really be dumb enough to repeat the 2002 fiasco?
I certainly hope not. If we dont get CD before the tour starts, then we're never getting it. Because 2002 will happen again, but on a much worse scale because it will be the second time at failure. The band's credibility is already hanging by a thread, and another failed tour will send it tumbling into an abyss. If we're reaching another 'no CD and failed tour' phase, bandmembers will leave.
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Quote from: younggunner on February 22, 2006, 12:51:16 PM
unfortunately i doubt we will be getting CD this Spring ...in fact i doubt we get it this summer too
if Axl doesnt finish it up by the time they hit the road then we wont be getting it until either next fall or spring...and that blows....all this excitement....i really dont knwo why he wants to tour without the album. I wanna see them play some old songs but I dont want another 02 setlist. And I also dont want all the new songs in a live fashion for the 1st time....
why cant he just finish the album, release the single and album before the tour, go tour in europe then tour in the states....what is so hard about that i dont get it....
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Quote from: younggunner on February 22, 2006, 12:51:16 PM
unfortunately i doubt we will be getting CD this Spring ...in fact i doubt we get it this summer too
if Axl doesnt finish it up by the time they hit the road then we wont be getting it until either next fall or spring...and that blows....all this excitement....i really dont knwo why he wants to tour without the album. I wanna see them play some old songs but I dont want another 02 setlist. And I also dont want all the new songs in a live fashion for the 1st time....
why cant he just finish the album, release the single and album before the tour, go tour in europe then tour in the states....what is so hard about that i dont get it....
There is NO WAY in my opinion that the tour is even a remote possibility without a record to go along with it.
Didn't one of the tour press releases say "Guns n roses present: Chinese Democracy"?
Seriously...with the failure of the 2002 tour (without a record) there HAS to be a CD out. Even if it is GH with a couple new tracks (I hope not!) they can't tour without a new CD. It's pointless.
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If Axl gives an official interview through a major media outlet ie/ MTV and says Chinese Democracy isn't finished but close, then we'll never see CD regardless of a tour.
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Re: GH2 Before Democracy?!?
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Quote from: GnR-NOW on February 22, 2006, 10:27:37 PM
If Axl gives an official interview through a major media outlet ie/ MTV and says Chinese Democracy isn't finished but close, then we'll never see CD regardless of a tour.
He's not going to do that, because any negative comments towards CD will affect ticket sales. He needs you to think 'soon is the word'.
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This band does not have the fan base to just tour on their name. If he wants to re-establish this band, make them relevant, make newbies see this band as GNR then he doesn't need another nostalgia tour. This band needs a record for a successful tour. Its just pathetic.
Right before the 2002 tour I said (along with others) the tour was doomed if they didn't tour with the album and look what happened
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First, I am DYING to hear CD.
However, I do believe launching GH2 first makes sense:
- It gets the general public interested in GNR again- most record sales are not from people who check the message boards every day
- It convinces promoters, retailers, etc. that GNR can still sell and gives them confidence to support CD
- Assuming like GH1 it has minimal promotion, it provides funding to support CD
- It's probably part of the agreement Axl has to recoup some of the enormous costs of CD
Remember, the majority of the world doesn't think about Axl and GNR every day. Most people love the "flavour of the month" crap band and song and need to be spoonfed even great music like TWAT/IRS. Hearing GH2 songs and DJs/MTV/TRL saying "that's the great hit Estranged and I hear there's more great new stuff coming out from Axl in two months, some of which was previewed last night in Dublin- our reporter on the streets loved it"- that's what will fuel the frenzy for the casual fan.
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old news i think...
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Soudns like a joke...
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Quote from: 88 Days on February 23, 2006, 02:14:15 PM
according to a guy over at mygnr.com, he emailed with one of the guys who spoke to axl in new york, and axl told him geffen was planning to release anothe GH before CD.
this is what he posted:
I sent an email to that cornmo guy. The magician that met Axl at that Victoria Secret party. Here is what he emailed me.
he (axl) said the label was going to put out another greatest hits cd and see
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i hope he puts it out himself. like prince did. that would be
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> Hey saw your Blog...you met Axl. Very cool.
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> Please tell me you asked him when Chinese Democracy is going to be
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> I would appreciate any info you have...
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> Thanks so much
Decide what? I really don't see the point here. GH sold great last year.
If this is true, it's more like the label making a cash grab - fuck em.
If Axl doesn't sign off on a GH, if it's not the tracklisting he did that Slash approved of, then I ain't buying it.
This greedy fucking industry makes being a fan SUCK.
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I wonder why he said "and then they'll decide"? If they allow GHII to run its full course, we might not see CD till 07.
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Quote from: kyrie on February 23, 2006, 02:16:23 PM
This greedy fucking industry makes being a fan SUCK.
You don't have to buy it
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