The leaks (Why now? Who leaked them? Are they on CD? Comparisons to old demos)

[ARC]

Do you think all four leaked songs are demo's...? ?

Is there no chance they could have been recorded to tape, from the finished versions, and then tranfered to CD/MP3 - which would account for their 'demo' like sound...?

CITR, IRS and Better all sound pretty good to me...

I'm 90% sure they are demo's... but who knows.

[Thorned Rose]

The songs were obviously leaked by someone with the copyrights.

Otherwise people couldn't just play IRS on Sirus radio...

It's funny... no announcement and somehow we can't mention a download on here. I've got all 4  people 

[Siliconmessiah]

Yes. Almost everyone agrees that this was a great PR-move from gnr-camp. The buzz is now greater than ever and I hope this week will bring more clarity!
Cheers! 

[Chief]

I Still maintain that these leaks were Not intentional.  These demos are probably 1-5 years old i'm guessing. still have no idea who got a hold of them however....

[VRslash]

there is infinant posibilitys. in my opinion. the leaks where leaked by axl him self. build hype, suspence. why not. just a few demos of songs. hes prolly got them on CD finished and thought if i leak the demo it doesnt ruin the song cause that havent heard the finished CD version. but if it wasnt leaked by axl him self i think its up to some one who hacked on to a computer at his studio or where ever. it seems nearly imposible that axl even let a demo CD out of his sight. and the CD's hes takeing around now are finished versions of the songs. the leaks are unfinished and there are good but there not to point of great yet but have infinant potential. i think he leaked them now to shack shit up it the GNR world.

[grover]

This probably isn't earth-shattering to most of you, but as I was thinking about it, I have now convinced myself that the leaks (minus CITR) were completely intentional by Axl and crew.  I came to this REVELATION  when I thought how ironic it was that the only new songs that were played were the ones that leaked.

However, it leads me to the next question, a very "Chicken or the egg" scenario:   Do they only play the leaks at the concerts because they WERE leaked, or did they LEAK those songs because these were the ones they wanted to play during the upcoming tour?

I believe it is the latter - that they intentionally leaked those songs, because they were the ones that they wanted everyone to hear while on the upcoming tour.  Since that is the case, I don't anticipate hearing CITR or any other unknown (as of yet) song during the remaining dates, until the album is released.

[Kujo]

They were intentionally leaked because the shows are being recorded for future use. It looks and sounds better to see the crowd singing along and reacting to the songs instead of just standing there with a glazed over look on their faces.

[axlsalinger]

Do they only play the leaks at the concerts because they WERE leaked, or did they LEAK those songs because these were the ones they wanted to play during the upcoming tour?

Amazing that we are still no closer to solving this mystery. Only in the world of G and R. At this point, I am actually leaning in the other direction: they are only playing these songs because they were leaked. So they figure they're already out there in studio form, playing 'em live doesn't really change anything. Plus it adds an extra dimension to differentiate this tour from 2002.

[johnnythunders24]

I dont think they were intentionally leaked at all...but what i do understand is these were songs recorded in 2001 or around that time...so the songs are old in terms of the new gn'r. i think that cd's 2 and 3 of the three cd's that are supposedly mostly recorded will be the songs that will be from the real gn'r (2006) and not by the band in its transition period, recorded or written by ex-members and some of the new band. my guess is they are playing irs and better and twat because these songs are already out there. citr is out there but it must be special ie a single cause thats the one they havent played live, and maybe twat also since its only been played in nyc.

[bigcash2002]

Johnny,

I heard TWAT in NYC, however, I think they have played it 1-2 more times since new york

[EFISH]

umm.. twat was only played once on the 12th in nyc hammerstein

[IndiannaRose]

umm.. twat was only played once on the 12th in nyc hammerstein

Umm...no.

It was played in Madrid as well.

[EFISH]

really? ugh how did i miss that.

alright sorry then..


any audio of it?

[estranged.1098]

Don't know  if it's been posted, but...

Merck interview from mygnrforum:

My anger around the recent leaks has more to do with people
hearing something that is not finished and therefore does not represent what the
artist intended the audience to hear.

I personally can't believe how anyone believes the leaks were intentional.

[Jonx]

Don't know  if it's been posted, but...

Merck interview from mygnrforum:

My anger around the recent leaks has more to do with people
hearing something that is not finished and therefore does not represent what the
artist intended the audience to hear.

I personally can't believe how anyone believes the leaks were intentional.

Its hard to say, these are troubled times for the music industry...... they are trying new and inventive ways to promote their artists so its certainly possible that these were put out their intentionally. Axl said in the Trunk interview that he hadnt heard the leaks, and didnt really know anything about them......... yet he had obviously had the band rehearsing them at least 4 or 5 weeks before that interview took place. I dunno, i doubt they were leaked intentionally but its certainly possible!

Jonx

[BurningHills]

The only thing I don't get is that the band is pretty much playing the leaks note for note in concert...hence why I find it hard to believe the tracks are unfinished.

[Krispy Kreme]

To say that the leaks were not intentional is imbecile and for Axl to deny that he  has heard them is insulting and reminds one of how he alleged a certain conversation with Slash (that did not occur). The leaks were made in front of a mini tour during which the new  songs are being promoted in front of the album to come out in the Fall. To not recognize how the pieces fit makes no sense.

[estranged.1098]

To say that the leaks were not intentional is imbecile and for Axl to deny that he  has heard them is insulting and reminds one of how he alleged a certain conversation with Slash (that did not occur). The leaks were made in front of a mini tour during which the new  songs are being promoted in front of the album to come out in the Fall. To not recognize how the pieces fit makes no sense.

Yes, it's imbecile to think that an artist would not want us listening to an inferior version of their work. 

How about this, if the leaks were intentional then why are IRS and specially TWAT so badly produced?

[misterID]

To say that the leaks were not intentional is imbecile and for Axl to deny that he? has heard them is insulting and reminds one of how he alleged a certain conversation with Slash (that did not occur). The leaks were made in front of a mini tour during which the new? songs are being promoted in front of the album to come out in the Fall. To not recognize how the pieces fit makes no sense.

Yes, it's imbecile to think that an artist would not want us listening to an inferior version of their work.?

How about this, if the leaks were intentional then why are IRS and specially TWAT so badly produced?

Because no matter what the response is they will always be able to say that they're still a work in progress 

[jameslofton29]

Because no matter what the response is they will always be able to say that they're still a work in progress?

Yeah, like how Oh My God was a real song, and he even discussed it on MTV. When it got panned by fans and the media, it quickly was referred to as a demo.