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« on: July 26, 2006, 09:36:47 PM »

I was bored and devised a way in which we can assess CD in it's current form to fans (as per demos and best live versions) vs. the potential each song has.

Heres what I came up with:

Chinese Democracy (current state) =? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?8/10
The Blues (current state) =? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?9/10
Catcher in the Rye (current state) =? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 7/10
Better (current state) =? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?7/10
Madagascar (current state) =? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?5/10
IRS (current state) =? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 6/10
TWAT (current state) =? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 6/10
Rhiad (current state) =? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?5/10
OMG (current state) =? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 6/10
Silkworms (current state) =? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 3/10

That comes to a 62% rating in terms of what we have heard thus far.
If we exclude OMG and Silkworms which most likely wont figure on CD we get a 66% rating.
If we also exclude Rhiad (which again may not figure) we get a healthy 69% rating.

More interesting is if we look at what potential we believe each song from what we've heard could have. This, I believe, gives a fairly accurate picture of what we are all in for:

Chinese Democracy (potential) =? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 10/10
The Blues (potential) =? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 10/10
Catcher in the Rye (potential) =? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?10/10
Better (potential) =? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 9/10
Madagascar (potential) =? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?7/10
IRS (potential) =? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 8/10
TWAT (potential) =? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 9/10
Rhiad (potential) =? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?7/10
OMG (potential) =? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 8/10
Silkworms (potential) =? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 5/10


Given this, we can say that the potential for these songs is 83%.
Take off OMG and Silkworms and we arrive at 88%
With Rhiad off as well we get 90%.

These songs we have not heard but will likely be on CD,? could have the following potential:

Prostitue? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 10/10
Thyme ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?8/10
The General? ? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 9/10

If we add these to the others then we still arrive at a very promising 90%.

Of course other factors like cohesion, production, order of tracks and overall feel need to be factored to get a clear picture of a great album. But based on this, things are looking fairly hopeful? ok Its not an exact science! hihi

Id be interested to see how others rate the songs based on these criteria.





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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2006, 09:45:01 PM »

You have WAY too much time on your hands...Please tell me you were stoned when you posted this.
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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2006, 09:47:31 PM »

Chinese Democracy (current state) =               7/10
The Blues (current state) =                               9/10
Catcher in the Rye (current state) =                  7/10
Better (current state) =                                   9/10
Madagascar (current state) =                           8/10
IRS (current state) =                                        8/10
TWAT (current state) =                                    9/10
Rhiad (current state) =                                     5/10
OMG (current state) =                                      6/10
Silkworms (current state) =                              3/10
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« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2006, 09:52:46 PM »

Chinese Democracy (current state) =? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?8/10 (song rocks.. it wont be much different on CD)
The Blues (current state) =? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?9.5/10 (reallyh good song, doenst need any more improvements)
Catcher in the Rye (current state) =? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 7/10 (the song rocks but the demo is REALLY a DEMO!)
Better (current state) =? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?8.5/10? (intro and outro, mainly outro just doenst do it for me)
Madagascar (current state) =? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?7/10? ?(very good song but quotes for like 1:30 seconds r kinda lame)
IRS (current state) =? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 9/10? (amazing rocker, wont change to much)
TWAT (current state) =? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? ?8/10? (this ones gunna be very popular, and it shuld have some changes to make it better)
Rhiad (current state) =? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?6/10 ( i like it, but nothing special at all)
OMG (current state) =? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 6/10 ( i like it, and again.. only a demo, but nothing special to it)
Silkworms (current state) =? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 2/10 ( hihi)

and yeah, u got a lot of time on your hands rofl
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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2006, 09:54:42 PM »

Okay, uhm...wow.  First off, let me just say that I appreciate the initiative in doing what you did.  That said, I'm not evaluating anything until I have the finished album in my hand.  Everything else it just too subjective at this point (I'd give "Better" higher than a 7/10, for example).
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« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2006, 09:56:47 PM »

you have your opinion, but I believe it to be bullocks
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« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2006, 10:02:03 PM »

You have WAY too much time on your hands...

What he said.
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« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2006, 10:07:12 PM »

How can you evaluate songs you've never even heard?

Based on your ratings system I'd give IRS, TWAT, and The Blues at least an 8 maybe a 9, in their current form.  Chinese Democracy and Madagascar, 7's.

But to each his own.
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« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2006, 10:13:58 PM »

As President, I have heard "Chinese Democracy," the entire album...it's a classic. Trust me.
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« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2006, 10:20:03 PM »

As President, I have heard "Chinese Democracy," the entire album...it's a classic. Trust me.

If Richard Nixon says Chinese Democracy is a classic, than it must be.. ok
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« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2006, 10:25:00 PM »

As President, I have heard "Chinese Democracy," the entire album...it's a classic. Trust me.

If Richard Nixon says Chinese Democracy is a classic, than it must be.. ok

Yeah but he's a lying fucking crook.
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« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2006, 10:36:24 PM »

Two things, Id give TWAT a 9/10, the guitar work is unbelievable, and madagascar needs to get rid of the quotes in the middle and replace it with some sick guitar work, or a dizzy solo
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« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2006, 10:54:31 PM »

How can you evaluate songs you've never even heard?
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I alert you to this part of my post:

"These songs we have not heard but will likely be on CD,? could have the following potential:"

I say could have, and rated them highly from a potential standpoint because theyve been talked up alot
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« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2006, 10:56:54 PM »

You have WAY too much time on your hands...Please tell me you were stoned when you posted this.

yes, as stated I was bored when I devised this.(I work alot with figures in my job as well)

but in seriousness, if it doesnt interest you, dont waste your time responding

instead find a thread that interests you more to post in - perhaps "Axls underpants" or "Finck is greater than Slash" or something
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« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2006, 11:14:00 PM »

You have WAY too much time on your hands...Please tell me you were stoned when you posted this.

Yeah, I know, what the hell.

You know, potential for any song is limitless - its pointless to start limiting where a song can go. And for fucks sake, you are rating the potential of songs we havent heard/know nothing about?
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« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2006, 11:16:34 PM »

You have WAY too much time on your hands...Please tell me you were stoned when you posted this.

Yeah, I know, what the hell.

You know, potential for any song is limitless - its pointless to start limiting where a song can go. And for fucks sake, you are rating the potential of songs we havent heard/know nothing about?

dude, read the posts again - ive addressed that already

its supposed to be a bit of fun for those who want to be involved, its not foolproof or rocket science, christ!
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« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2006, 11:25:23 PM »

I just find it a bit bizarre thats all. Its your opinion put under the scrunity of number crunching. Like, who cares?
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« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2006, 01:13:46 AM »

Like I said before, you dont have to care - if you dont, which is clearly the case - avoid  posting in the thread  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2006, 01:32:41 AM »

Current State :

Chinese Democracy  7/10
The Blues 8/10
Catcher 7/10
Better 7/10
Madagascar 7/10
IRS 6/10
TWAT 7/10
Rhiad 5/10
OMG 3/10
Silkworms 1/10

3 months ago, the leaked songs would have had a better rating, but they've worn off.
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« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2006, 01:39:47 AM »

Just out of boredom, I'll also rate the current state of each song:

"Chinese Democracy"--- Haven't heard it, actually. So I can't give it a rating.

"The Blues" ---10/10  (It's already a masterpiece.)

"Better" --- 9/10 (To me, this song is just about perfect. With just a tad of tweaking, it WILL be perfect.)

"Madagascar"--- 9/10  (One of my favorite "new" tracks. And I happen to like the minute or so of movie quotes, especially the MLK part. When the quotes end, and Axl comes back on, it gives me chills every time. Love it, love it, love it.)

"Catcher in the Rye"--- 8/10  (At first it was my favorite of the new tracks, but after listening to it continuosly, I started to get just a little bored with it, which doesn't usually happen with me and GNR songs. It's still an amazing, amazing, amazing song, though. I really hope it's on the album.)

"IRS"--- 7/10  (This one continues to grow on me. I wasn't a huge fan of it at first, but now I love it.)

"TWAT"---  6/10  (I'm nowhere near as in love with this track as many of you others are.)

"Silkworms"--- 6/10 (Ah, the dreaded, hated, heavily chastised "Silkworms." Unlike nearly everybody else in the world, I don't hate this song. I actually . . . like it. And I have from the first time I heard it. The music part of it is really awesome; very different from anything I've heard before. The lyrics aren't that great, though. I think a studio version of the song would actually impress a lot of people.)

"Rhiad"--- 3/10  (Currently, this song sucks, imo. I can't stand it. But I've only heard a live version with very crappy quality, and so I think the song would probably sound very cool if it was cleaned up in a studio.)

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