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« on: July 31, 2006, 01:39:59 PM »

I don't think anyone really understand what his place in GNR is. He is simply a role member. If he left, GNR would be done, as people have mentioned before.

Some people don't like his work on the old songs. You have to think that Slash and Robin are two completely different guitarists. Their styles don't fit. Yes, I agree that he does mess up the old songs a bit, and that Richard should take those lead parts, he'd restore them to glory, but Finck is just too good of a guitarist to just fire. His new work on Democracy would be almost impossible to recreate for ANY guitarist. THis is why Axl got Finck, because his guitar work is just so original and complex.
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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2006, 01:41:50 PM »

Finck is cool. His solo on Better is one of the highlights of the new Gn'R. The Blues being another  beer

Slash is cool too  Grin

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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2006, 01:43:03 PM »

4 years ago i would have agreed that he messes up old songs. But after seeing him play this year id say hes improved majorly.
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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2006, 01:44:09 PM »

If he left it wouldn't be the end of gnr you dumbass. Axl said that Paul Tobias was the reason GNR still exist, and where is he now? And yes richard is a far better player than Robin.
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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2006, 01:44:18 PM »

Im not hating but nothing he has done is impossible to recreate or make better. He has passion for the project and thats always a good thing. He has his points and he has his set backs. The other guitarists can pick him up when he's off.
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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2006, 01:53:09 PM »

I don't really care and I hope Finck doesn't care... the only argument I hear is that he is not Slash - which he isn't and that that better originals play originals - which can not happen as Slash has left GNR. There is thread on this board bashing his SCOM playing and he nails that solo almost every single time... and add some in!

If Finck leaves maybe it wouldn't be the end of new GNR, but it would make a huge confusion... much more than when Buckethead left.

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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2006, 01:53:54 PM »

If he left it wouldn't be the end of gnr you dumbass. Axl said that Paul Tobias was the reason GNR still exist, and where is he now? And yes richard is a far better player than Robin.

Yeah, Tobias kept GNR alive because when everyone quit on Axl, he was still there, but for fucks sake, he's not with them anymore, so enough about him.

Finck is now the new backbone of the band, along with Tommy.
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« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2006, 01:55:43 PM »

Finck is now the new backbone of the band, along with Tommy.

they all are  ok ... except maybe bbf for now
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« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2006, 01:56:11 PM »

Im not hating but nothing he has done is impossible to recreate or make better. He has passion for the project and thats always a good thing. He has his points and he has his set backs. The other guitarists can pick him up when he's off.



one thing is to recreate, and invent is something else.

who is a greater genious, Edison who made the 1st lightbulb, or some dickhead that made a bigger lightbulb?!

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« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2006, 01:57:58 PM »

Finck is now the new backbone of the band, along with Tommy.

they all are  ok ... except maybe bbf for now

Yeah, that's true peace
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« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2006, 02:01:21 PM »

Who said anything about Finck leaving? That was never a possibility! ?confused

It's an honour to have him in the band. I love his work in NIN and I love his work in GNR.

Finck rules! ?Cool
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« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2006, 02:01:32 PM »

His new work on Democracy would be almost impossible to recreate for ANY guitarist. THis is why Axl got Finck, because his guitar work is just so original and complex.

How do you know or are you just going by the demos?
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« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2006, 02:07:30 PM »

Robin wrote Better.  Enough said.  And I did always dig his work on tour with NIN even though to my knowledge he never played on any of Trent's records.  His style is complex and emotional.  I've never heard him actually talk.  I don't think he communicates that way.  After all he is "from an undiscovered planet" far far away. 
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« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2006, 02:09:08 PM »

i think Finck has done a good job with the old songs, if you go to newgnr.com and listen to SCOM from Hammerstein, to me its his best version of it. ?Based off what we heard from Better and TWAT, Im definitely glad he is in the band, he's been part of this line up since 97, so if he goes, GNR is in trouble, i think the main core of this line up is Axl, Tommy, Finck, and Fortus.
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« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2006, 02:10:26 PM »

Robin wrote Better.? Enough said.? And I did always dig his work on tour with NIN even though to my knowledge he never played on any of Trent's records.? His style is complex and emotional.? I've never heard him actually talk.? I don't think he communicates that way.? After all he is "from an undiscovered planet" far far away.?

He only played on "Further Down the Spiral" - best NIN album IMO.
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« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2006, 02:10:43 PM »

Robin is my alltime favorit guitarplayer! He belongs to GNR ! Thats for fucking sure..
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« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2006, 02:11:59 PM »

His new work on Democracy would be almost impossible to recreate for ANY guitarist. THis is why Axl got Finck, because his guitar work is just so original and complex.

How do you know or are you just going by the demos?

Tell me, do you play guitar fluently? You should be able to tell just what I'm talking about. His solos on the demos and live are so complex it's just ridiculous. They are so well thought-out and very strongly composed. I don't think anyone could recreate his work on the album OR the demos. Well, maybe the demos. Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2006, 02:12:06 PM »

After all he is "from an undiscovered planet" far far away.?

I bet Finck lost the only copy of "chinese democracy" when he went to that planet for a vacation back in 2001, and theyve been lookin for it ever since.
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« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2006, 02:13:26 PM »

Isn't this dead horse ? No hurt intented peace

I am really happy that Robin Finck is in GN'R. I love the solo he wrote for TWAT and The Blues, and apparently we need to thank him fot bringing Better to the band. I sure hope he will be in for a long time an gets the credit he deserves.
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« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2006, 02:14:14 PM »

Yeah, Finck is so unreplaceable he is only the 3rd best guitarist (out of 3) in his own band.

The demo of TWAT with Bucket and without is proof positive that Robin Finck is not skilled enough a guitar player to truly be a lead guitarist for GNR. He is too limited. He is not capable of writing an outro like Bucket did, and without it the song is average. Same goes for IRS, without Bucket the song is average.

The argument for Finck on this board revolves around "he wrote Better". Izzy was a good writer in the studio too, didn't mean they stripped Slash of his lead guitar duties. Finck should be nothing more than a rythm player who should be seen and not heard.
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