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« Reply #620 on: September 17, 2006, 04:48:52 PM »


people meet GNR again to discover the guys to be marvelous and then a new love story begins and continues involving more and more people in it. Once in, who'd wanna miss any installment of this?

I'm not in agreement that playing the old stuff is part of the plan to sell more of a new album.

Why not buy AFD?

Also, when you go see "GNR" would you not expect the best out of them when it comes to playing their back catalogue?

I want to hear new stuff and enjoy it as well.



I think it's safe to say that most of us here agree with you. We'd like to hear more new stuff too. But the average GNR fan doesn't know shit about this band and they're gonna judge them mostly by how they play tunes like Jungle, PC & SCOM.
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« Reply #621 on: September 17, 2006, 04:53:27 PM »


people meet GNR again to discover the guys to be marvelous and then a new love story begins and continues involving more and more people in it. Once in, who'd wanna miss any installment of this?

I'm not in agreement that playing the old stuff is part of the plan to sell more of a new album.

Why not buy AFD?

Also, when you go see "GNR" would you not expect the best out of them when it comes to playing their back catalogue?

I want to hear new stuff and enjoy it as well.



I think it's safe to say that most of us here agree with you. We'd like to hear more new stuff too. But the average GNR fan doesn't know shit about this band and they're gonna judge them mostly by how they play tunes like Jungle, PC & SCOM.

Sometimes it seems most people here don't agree with me on this.

But I still maintain my stance. If the average GNR fan judge the band by PC, NR and such, why would they buy an album that doesn't contain those tracks?
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« Reply #622 on: September 17, 2006, 05:07:31 PM »

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09-16-06 | Hard Rock Hotel - The Joint Review 2
by Rex

 
I believe that show (at least to those of who were there) may very well go
down in history as the best concert that Las Vegas has ever seen, or any
town has ever seen.

I have been to more concerts than I care to county by many different
bands, but this was sick, just sick.

Axl lost the botox, and sounded like he just finished Appetite for
Destruction'.  Better if you can imagine it.  The scream was back, his
range was actually better, and
the energy was insane.   

They did triple lead guitar on several songs, and from the moment the
concert burst out with "Welcome to the Jungle" to 2+ hours later when
it ended with "Paradise City", everybody ... the band, the crowd,
security ... everybody was ready to collapse.

That show was like a crystal meth enema.  It was like the band was shot
out of a cannon and they torn through nearly every GNR song (plus a
little new material) like it was 1988 ... but their wore more band
members and every single member was completely at the top of their
game.

I heard a bunch of bad shit from the music press.  I head some bad crap
from Europeans.  I heard he would be three hours late and do a half-assed
show. I almost didn't go, because I expected to be disappointed.  But .....
Holy Shit.   Just .... Holy Shit.

I talked with people in the crowd who had seen them 20+ times since the 80's
remarking that this was far and away, the best GNR show they had ever
seen.  It was the best concert of any kind I have ever been witness to.
  I'm still speechless.

Some guys were there after the show who had seen them at Hammerstein in NYC
and they said "Manhattan has nothing on Las Vegas, the greatest shows are
always here.  This show was way better than Hammerstein."

The fed of the crowd who was giving as much back to the band as they were
getting, and you can sense the band saing in their heads "We are finally home".

Seriously, if you have never seen GNR in Las Vegas, then you may not have
seen GNR's best live work.

There was a good deal of crowd interaction, the whole band seemed to be
thrilled that they were in Las Vegas, and Axl even laughed when some
dumbass was kicked out for throwing things instead of having a hissy
fit.  The place was packed, and every single person sang every word to
every song from start to finish.  They just tore the place apart.
Seriously, I don't know how that show could possibly be topped by and
band in any place.

Richard was on fire screaming "fuck yeah!" as he was hammering out the
rhythm section of "Jungle", Robin had me thinking "Slash Who?"  This guy is
second  to nobody, and this is coming from someone who got into guitar
playing because of Slash.  I emulated Slash in my early playing years, and
this was the guy who I always took as the greatest player of all time.  I
saw Velvet Revolver last year simply to watch Slash play.  And here I was
feeling like a complete traitor when I was standing their saying "Holy
Shit, this guy plays Slash better than Slash".  But what can I say?  He
does.  I never thought I would EVER say that, but this guy plays GNR leads
that make you think he had to have written the songs himself.  And his
energy and stage presence is, dare I say it, more dramatic.  He's all over
the stage, going nuts while not missing a note.  He collided with Axl with
one point, hit the deck, and still didn't miss a note!

Robin came out into the audience at one point.  These guys were psyched
beyond belief.

Richard's (who I thought was playing RHYTHM and not lead) took the lead
solo on "November Rain" that damn near brought a tear to my eye.  When your
rhythm player can play lead better than most lead players, you've got an
untouchable band.

I got right in front of the stage.  Almost got hit by Robin's guitar neck
at one point.  Axl laughed at my huge Pocket PC cellphone when I held
it up in leui of a lighter for "Patience".  My phone looked less like a
lighter and more like a frigging stage light.

Anyway, greatest ... concert ... ever.   Seriously, ever.  Since the
invention of the amplified sound, this was the best single set by any
particular band in the history of rock music.

At least from near the stage.  The celebrities and rock critics who
were preening and licking each other's nuts in the balcony so as to be
isolated from us riff-raff may have a different story, but who gives a
damn?

This was one to tell your grand kids about.  It was one of the classic
"great" shows. I don't think it can be topped.  And  whether you like Axl,
hate Axl,
it became apparent very quickly why he is arguably the best front man
in the last 20 years.  Maybe he's an ass, maybe he's insane, but when
he's on, he cannot be topped.  Period.

I think that was the show against which all others will be judged.  And I
think it will be king.

I tried to put it into words the best I could, but it's really not
possible.  You had to be there to understand what I mean.

I really hope the rest of you get a show 1/2 as good as this one.  Because
if you do, it will still be the best show you have ever seen.  I make very
few promises, but I promise everyone this ... if they are anywhere near
where they were last night, if you ever seen one show in your entire life,
this would have to be it.
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« Reply #623 on: September 17, 2006, 05:12:56 PM »

Now, that's a bit much.... hihi rofl
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« Reply #624 on: September 17, 2006, 05:15:48 PM »



It was like the band was shot out of a cannon and they torn through nearly every GNR song (plus a little new material) like it was 1988 ...


I stopped reading after that line
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« Reply #625 on: September 17, 2006, 05:16:16 PM »


people meet GNR again to discover the guys to be marvelous and then a new love story begins and continues involving more and more people in it. Once in, who'd wanna miss any installment of this?

I'm not in agreement that playing the old stuff is part of the plan to sell more of a new album.

Why not buy AFD?

Also, when you go see "GNR" would you not expect the best out of them when it comes to playing their back catalogue?

I want to hear new stuff and enjoy it as well.


because they already have it or GH? save that those are quite old and different from the sound by the band alive. 
seeing them live makes people want to hear new stuff from this band as well.
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« Reply #626 on: September 17, 2006, 05:16:50 PM »

Was there any after parties last night?
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« Reply #627 on: September 17, 2006, 05:28:37 PM »

badass review, thanks for posting that here kiko. now i really wanna see them bad.
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« Reply #628 on: September 17, 2006, 05:34:59 PM »

badass review, thanks for posting that here kiko. now i really wanna see them bad.

Agreed.... Can't wait for the Northeastern dates to pop up ?hihi
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« Reply #629 on: September 17, 2006, 05:48:48 PM »

I can't get enough of these reviews!! Valeu, Kiko!  ok
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« Reply #630 on: September 17, 2006, 05:50:08 PM »

too bad i wont be able to stay up tonight, only until 10, 8pm Las Vegas time, i look  forward to more reviews tommorrow thanks to thos who reviewed  ok
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« Reply #631 on: September 17, 2006, 06:27:27 PM »

Too much exageration... be carefull with some reviews you read from ultra mega die-hard fans.... they are biaised....sometimes they sound like Britney Spears 12 years old fans... "who is Slash?" "best show of the entire universe" "Axl is god" "I cried!".... come on...let's be serious.

I saw he band aswell 3 month ago. It was good, but it was NOT "the best show in the Univers", it was not also as good as some other shows I went to (especially Oasis, it was a better show than GN'R, and with just 2 guitar players, they sounded louder... less players, less people onstage, tigher, no solos/jams every 10 minutes etc...)

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« Reply #632 on: September 17, 2006, 06:27:43 PM »

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Maybe it won't ?- Read the post - I said it " may " ?- ?I'm reaching here, because I want less old tunes and more new tunes - just trying to gain some perspective
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« Reply #633 on: September 17, 2006, 06:34:09 PM »

Too much exageration... be carefull with some reviews you read from ultra mega die-hard fans.... they are biaised....sometimes they sound like Britney Spears 12 years old fans... "who is Slash?" "best show of the entire universe" "Axl is god" "I cried!".... this is ridiculous.
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« Reply #634 on: September 17, 2006, 06:38:12 PM »

Well, he is.... but that's not the topic.
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« Reply #635 on: September 17, 2006, 06:43:44 PM »

I saw he band aswell 3 month ago. It was good, but it was NOT as good as some other shows I went to (especially Oasis, it was a better show than GN'R, and with just 2 guitar players, they sounded louder... less players, less people onstage, tigher, no solos/jams every 10 minutes etc...)

You should check out Spinal Tap. Their amps go to 11! One louder.

I'm happy you prefer watching Liam stand in his spot singing about his Wonderwall. Good for you. ?ok


I prefer to be fair than to be blind.

Ok....


If Axl just stood there for the whole show, you'd be complaining about him being boring....

I bet a GN'R show is more intense than an Oasis show. It's only natural that you slow down after a few songs.


I think you're comparing apple to oranges.



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« Reply #636 on: September 17, 2006, 06:50:29 PM »

^ absolutally agree with you jarmo!

plus Oasis have a cockier singer than GnR & also dont have all those great solo's in the songs!

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« Reply #637 on: September 17, 2006, 06:52:50 PM »

I will say this, I saw GNR in that very venue Dec. 29, 2001....  It was mindblowing.. I was so close..  It is a whole different ball game there.  So I am sure it was truly awesome...
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« Reply #638 on: September 17, 2006, 06:56:41 PM »

If GN'R had played 20 songs in a row, like Oasis did, yes it would have been a better show. But they did not. I don't know Jarmo, but maybe, you know maybe there was a problem at the Paris show. Because I have the feeling EVERYBODY who went to the Paris show was really bored by the solos. read the reviews of the Paris show on this board.

Maybe I went to the wrong show? i don't "regret it", but I expected something different, more exiting, less boring, ?people were so bored and exausted by all the solos every 10 minutes (really, every 10 minutes the band stopped the show that night! can you believe it?) that Bumblefoot was booed. First time in my life I heard a main act beeing booed. I never saw that before, at any concert. My friend left before the end of the show. people around us left aswell... and not only for the metro. Jarmo this is the fucking truth dude: people were bored. I'm sorry, but this is what happened... Undecided

Are we more exigent in Paris? I don't think so. People are people. They are the same everywhere. But there was something wrong in the band's attitude after the 4 first songs. The show quickly went down. It's like if they gave us something to sleep. I just hope that next time they come in Paris, they really play like a fast train in a row, like "take that in your face", instead of stopping the show every 10 minutes.

It's not whining or complaining, it's beeing honnest. I don't want to lie. Good things and bad things have to be said. There were also many good things, don't worry? Wink

Now, maybe in Vegas they didn't stop the show every 10 minutes Smiley
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« Reply #639 on: September 17, 2006, 07:13:41 PM »

Too much exageration... be carefull with some reviews you read from ultra mega die-hard fans.... they are biaised....sometimes they sound like Britney Spears 12 years old fans... "who is Slash?" "best show of the entire universe" "Axl is god" "I cried!".... this is ridiculous.

I saw he band aswell 3 month ago. It was good, but it was NOT as good as some other shows I went to (especially Oasis, it was a better show than GN'R, and with just 2 guitar players, they sounded louder... less players, less people onstage, tigher, no solos/jams every 10 minutes etc...)

I prefer to be fair and honnest than to be blind.

People on here never fail to amaze me. Yes, it was a very enthusiastic review, but you don't know this guy, how do you know he is biased? How do you know anything? I just love the way people talk like they know everything.

I've seen Oasis twice and the new GNR twice, both great bands, but there's no way I'd consider the Oasis shows on a par with the musicianship and the performance of these guys. My opinion.

Of course it's invalid because some random person on the internet knows everything about me and will tell you that I'm biased, or have alterior motives, etc....? Roll Eyes

... because God forbid someone likes this band enough to heap praise upon them.

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