lack of interacton with crowd

[jarmo]

Crwod interaction when done right is great but the way Axl has always done it, is lame. Half the time his interaction has nothing to do with the show and does nothng to improve the show. They're simply rants about nothing.

Please give eamples.

I remember him asking the crowd if they were having a good time, him asking for some security guys to be kicked out and him making fun of the incident in Sweden....


/jarmo

[Bono]

Crwod interaction when done right is great but the way Axl has always done it, is lame. Half the time his interaction has nothing to do with the show and does nothng to improve the show. They're simply rants about nothing.

Please give eamples.

I remember him asking the crowd if they were having a good time, him asking for some security guys to be kicked out and him making fun of the incident in Sweden....


/jarmo

Dude the Warren Beaty thing was lame. the stopping of YCBM at the exact same point(it's staged) on numerous occasions to lecture the crowd on throwing things(which is bad) or to kick out his own security .  I think his rants are lame as hell. they come off as some guy rambling on about nothing. Asking the crowd if they're having a good time is not interaction. That's standard.  You can interact with the crowd without saying a word.  Even back when I thought Axl was the coolest I never liked his rants and always felt like rolling my eyes whe he did them.  Top be honest I've never thought there is a real connection between fans and Axl durring the shows. In my opinion he seems to distance himself from it and any interaction that he does have comes across as forced or fake in my opinion. I even felt this way at the Hammerstien gig I went to.  He's a great performer but as far as interacting and connecting with the crowd I don't think so. And yes I think you can be one without the other.

[ppbebe]

the Warren Beaty thing

when was it? can't you give an example more recent and clearer? Otherwise that will be taken as an example of decided improvements.

[Voodoochild]

He interacted A LOT in RIR3 with Brazilian fans, so I dunno wtf are you talkin' about.

[Bono]

the Warren Beaty thing

when was it? can't you give an example more recent and clearer? Otherwise that will be taken as an example of decided improvements.

Wow. Did you not read the entire post. How come some of you feel the need for such extreme specific examples. I gave the examples about stopping the song durring YCBM and in general about his rants.  that's enough. I don' t feel Axl interacts well with the crowd. I don't  feel he ever has and I don't feel he did when I saw him at hammerstein.  there, that's my current example. I saw a freaking show live in 2006 and based my opinion on that.

[holtzmn73]

 the stopping of YCBM at the exact same point(it's staged) on numerous occasions to lecture the crowd on throwing things(which is bad) or to kick out his own security . 

How many times has Axl stopped YCBM? I remember once in '92 and then once again in '06, its not staged. The rants were kinda boring though, I'd rather hear more songs.

[ppbebe]

Wow.

And what this wow stands for?

Did you not read the entire post. How come some of you feel the need for such extreme specific examples.

I did that's why the request. In short you can't think of any clear case.

I gave the examples about stopping the song durring YCBM and in general about his rants.  that's enough. I don' t feel Axl interacts well with the crowd. I don't  feel he ever has and I don't feel he did when I saw him at hammerstein.  there, that's my current example. I saw a freaking show live in 2006 and based my opinion on that.

what holtzmn73 said.
He doesn't make rants lately. instead he makes many witty one liners to the fans and with his band mates.

Those fall flat on a man without understanding.....
that's not his lack of interaction but yours, essesentially I'm afraid.

[Danny]

This is sort of off-topic, but the first post reminded me of something I had'nt thought about in awhile.  I saw GNR/Metallica at the Metrodome in Minneapolis.  During KOHD, the big screens showed different shots backstage.  They showed Hetfield smiling and waving at the camera, and at one point they showed Jim Martin (Faith No More was the opener--this was their last show on the tour--Mike Patton told the crowd that they were "Getting out of the ring").


Just remembered that and thought it was funny.


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[Bono]

what holtzmn73 said.
He doesn't make rants lately. instead he makes many witty one liners to the fans and with his band mates.

Those fall flat on a man without understanding.....
that's not his lack of interaction but yours, essesentially I'm afraid.

I made my case. I? gave my examples. I'm not gonna list the entire history of Guns to prove my opinion. I saw them this year and made my opinion based on that as well as past concerts. You need to get over the fact that my opinion on this is different than yours. If you guys feel one liners and rants and stopping songs and all that shit is interaction than fine that's great. I think Axl's one liners are lame. I said it before. I don't think he comes across as a guy who feels the need or want for a connection between fan and performer durring the shows. I said I feel his "interaction" comes across as fake or forced. That's my opinion. I'm not trying to tell you guys otherwise or that you're wrong. I don't need to give any further examples. I think seeing them live this year is basis enough for me to form a valid opinion. Like I said I think he's a great performer but as far as interacting with the crowd I think he's pretty poor at it.

[BluesGNR]

Crowd interaction's kinda cheesy.

Agreed. This is Guns N' Roses - Not some kind of skidda-marinky-rinky-dink kind of Elephant Show sing along...

[Miggy]

I hope Axl never interacts with the crowd like James Hetfield does!? Let's see, it would go something like this:

- My friends!
- My lovely friends!
- You make GN'R very happy!
- We looooove you!
- You make us feel sooooo good.
- You make us proud to be in GN'R.
- blablabla ...

[BluesGNR]

Hahaha.. and it's so true.... 

[anythinggoes]

Do any of the other band members banter with the crowd?

Tommy told the Download crowd to stop throwing shit or he'd go home...


/jarmo

ha good positive interaction

i always thought the solos were crowd interaction like the Dont cry solo and the things like the band menbers going down to crowd front row at the end of the day this band plays too the crowd not at the crowd they feed of the energy and it shows through

[liesin]

I\m happy with his interaction with the crowd, you must take in considaretion that axl never was the fans kind of guy imo. he does what he should and I fucking respect him for the music, However it would be nice if the whole band participated more.

[babydolls]

the first thing that springs to my mind re Axl's crowd interaction is Wembley 29th this year - stopping the show to tell us all about the acoustic gig happening later that night and then reading out a list of people's names who were invited to go.  i'd say that was pretty awesome interaction with a crowd!   

[jarmo]

Dude the Warren Beaty thing was lame. the stopping of YCBM at the exact same point(it's staged) on numerous occasions to lecture the crowd on throwing things(which is bad) or to kick out his own security .? I think his rants are lame as hell. they come off as some guy rambling on about nothing.

Looks like your "always" means "the early 90s". He hasn't ranted about Warren since June 6th, 1992.


I guess you think the incident in Newcastle was staged as well.




/jarmo

[Warchild]

Crwod interaction when done right is great but the way Axl has always done it, is lame. Half the time his interaction has nothing to do with the show and does nothng to improve the show. They're simply rants about nothing.

OPinions Vary....maybe you can go to a fallout boy's show to "Interact"

[miss bomb]

Do any of the other band members banter with the crowd?

Tommy told the Download crowd to stop throwing shit or he'd go home...


/jarmo

 

considering how long gnr shows are, i appreciate axl keeping the talking to a minimum, more time for music 

[darkmonth]

Crowd interaction's kinda cheesy.

Doesn't matter ... it's part of being at a show ... and if you're saying that just to excuse it, because you're a GnR fan, that's sad.

I don't NEED the interaction... but a lot of people love it.  It doesn't matter how 'cheesy' it is.  GnR did it all the time in the old days... a show is a show.

[WARose]

i can?t see the point here unfortunately...

i saw gnr twice this year and axl was in a great mood and interacted more than i expected him to do. he was speaking to the crowd after every song at rock am ring and it never came over as cheesy oder fake.....   axl`s one of the most real guys in the music business today imo...

most people have friends, family and lovers to tell them that they?re loved..... if not let james hetfield do the job and go to a metallica concert to feel better.....  that`s not axl?s job...



oh and... perhaps it`s just striking me.... but...i`m really wondering why a guy called "bono" with a "U2" pic in his avatar and a quote from "bono" in his signature needs to bitch about axl`s way of interacting with the crowd - on this board...  are the whiners calling for reinforcement from other fanboards now???