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Why didn't Steven Tyler lose his voice?
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Topic: Why didn't Steven Tyler lose his voice? (Read 11579 times)
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Because death metal is MORE than just grunting, even if it's the most popular type of vocals, since it's not so hard to do. The first death metal band ever, Possessed, had more of a punkish vocalist, but it was the MUSIC that defined Possesssed as death metal, not the vocals.
The whole grunt thing really picked up in the early 90's, almost a decade after death metal was created. You can thank grindcore and Napalm Death for that, for good or ill.
Death metal lyrics are often about death, but not as much now, since that subject has gotten old to a lot of people. It was much more prevalent in the 80's and early 90's than it is now. The lyrics can be about anything, just as with any other musical genre. It's just that medical terminology sounds good grunted, that's all.
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Quote from: Walk on October 23, 2006, 07:17:11 PM
Because death metal is MORE than just grunting, even if it's the most popular type of vocals, since it's not so hard to do. The first death metal band ever, Possessed, had more of a punkish vocalist, but it was the MUSIC that defined Possesssed as death metal, not the vocals.
The whole grunt thing really picked up in the early 90's, almost a decade after death metal was created. You can thank grindcore and Napalm Death for that, for good or ill.
Death metal lyrics are often about death, but not as much now, since that subject has gotten old to a lot of people. It was much more prevalent in the 80's and early 90's than it is now. The lyrics can be about anything, just as with any other musical genre. It's just that medical terminology sounds good grunted, that's all.
Well surely if these bands are much more now, why are they classed as death metal still?
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and whats melodic death metal? dokken except gone evil lmao?
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Steven Tyler in my opinion is probably the greatest rock singer ever.
He is the only person I have ever seen that actually sang over Axl.
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Re: Why didn't Steven Tyler lose his voice?
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Quote from: mrlee on October 23, 2006, 07:37:16 PM
Well surely if these bands are much more now, why are they classed as death metal still?
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Sound. Death metal is very similar to thrash, but has less "machine gun" riffing and more rhythmic complexity. The drumming is very technical as well, and the vocals are usually harsh, but not always grunted.
Quote from: mrlee on October 23, 2006, 07:37:16 PM
and whats melodic death metal? dokken except gone evil lmao?
Try Skyfire, In Flames, At The Gates, Opeth, and Children of Bodom. You'll get a general idea of what it sounds like from these bands.
As for rock singers, Freddy Mercury is probably the best pure rock singer. But, since Judas Priest's albums Point of Entry and Turbo can be considered rock, rather than metal, Rob Halford can probably claim the title as well.
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Quote from: D on October 23, 2006, 07:47:12 PM
Steven Tyler in my opinion is probably the greatest rock singer ever.
He is the only person I have ever seen that actually sang over Axl.?
Steven Tyler is definitely one of the best out there. I also think Brian Johnson from AC/DC is pretty damn good as well.
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Quote from: gnr1967 on October 24, 2006, 12:22:10 AM
Quote from: D on October 23, 2006, 07:47:12 PM
Steven Tyler in my opinion is probably the greatest rock singer ever.
He is the only person I have ever seen that actually sang over Axl.
Steven Tyler is definitely one of the best out there. I also think Brian Johnson from AC/DC is pretty damn good as well.
ohh his voice got worn too fast...id prbz have to go with bon scott on the ac/dc front.
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Haha Brian is like nails on a chalkboard. I'm a huge Bon Scott-ac/dc fan, not so much the Brian Johnson stuff. I think Freddie hands down gets the best vocalist ever award. That guy could wail and then some. I love Tyler and Axl, but Freddie has a charm with his voice that nails it.
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Quote from: bill213 on October 24, 2006, 08:02:42 AM
Haha Brian is like nails on a chalkboard. I'm a huge Bon Scott-ac/dc fan, not so much the Brian Johnson stuff. I think Freddie hands down gets the best vocalist ever award. That guy could wail and then some. I love Tyler and Axl, but Freddie has a charm with his voice that nails it.
problem with freddie is, the music he made on alot of albums was really rock music. only particular albums by queen are rock (more 70s era).
Whereas aerosmith and gnr have got that sleazy blues rock style which i just think is ace. Maybe its personal oppinion i dunno but thats how i feel bout it. Freddie was a good singer...thinking bout that though, would his voice have lasted as well as stevens and axls have?
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That's definitely true ... GNR and Aeromsith have that sleaze-rock factor that makes them appealing. Freddie was an awesome vocalist, but was a little too clean in comparison.
Regarding Brian Johnson, I realize his voice has deteriorated some over the years - more than Steven Tyler's voice. But I still love hearing some AC/DC classics with him on vocals. Bon Scott was also a great singer - that band was fortunate to have had two great frontmen.
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Quote from: Walk on October 22, 2006, 10:01:08 PM
It's mostly because he sounded terrible in the first place. Lemmy hasn't lost any of his voice, either.
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Quote from: Krispy Kreme on October 28, 2006, 12:13:02 AM
Quote from: Walk on October 22, 2006, 10:01:08 PM
It's mostly because he sounded terrible in the first place. Lemmy hasn't lost any of his voice, either.
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agreed lol. tylers voice is ace...and lemmys voice, to say its the same as it was in the 70s is madness
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The thing is that Steven had some good singing lessons in the late 90's, then he learned how to control his voice...is really THAT simple...
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Quote from: Pinball Wizard on October 28, 2006, 07:00:37 PM
The thing is that Steven had some good singing lessons in the late 90's, then he learned how to control his voice...is really THAT simple...
his voice was fine before lol.
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Quote from: mrlee on October 28, 2006, 07:17:50 PM
Quote from: Pinball Wizard on October 28, 2006, 07:00:37 PM
The thing is that Steven had some good singing lessons in the late 90's, then he learned how to control his voice...is really THAT simple...
his voice was fine before lol.
Yeah, but now it's better!
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Quote from: Pinball Wizard on October 28, 2006, 07:38:35 PM
Quote from: mrlee on October 28, 2006, 07:17:50 PM
Quote from: Pinball Wizard on October 28, 2006, 07:00:37 PM
The thing is that Steven had some good singing lessons in the late 90's, then he learned how to control his voice...is really THAT simple...
his voice was fine before lol.
Yeah, but now it's better!
ahh good, thought you were making a dig at the man that is known as steve tyler.
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Re: Why didn't Steven Tyler lose his voice?
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Steven changed his voice, if you listen to the first record, especially, he used a voice he thought sounded more like a black man's and he didn't like his real voice. The only song he used his real voice for was Dream On.
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Tyler's prolly one of few to have a range much higher than Axl's.
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Because for some unknown reason I have to pay for some past crime by listening to his God awful voice. Sorry I just don't like Aerosmith.
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Quote from: axlslasher on October 30, 2006, 09:08:45 PM
Because for some unknown reason I have to pay for some past crime by listening to his God awful voice. Sorry I just don't like Aerosmith.
you told us this in the other thread. and even if you dont like them, theres no way you can say his voice is "god aweful"
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