Locomotive--most underrated song?

[ftheup]

I believe Locomotive is the basis for the Use Your Illusion titles.  By far the greatest song on UYI2 (my favorite album) but breakdown is close.  Locomotive is a strong contender for my favorite song with November Rain, but in the end, November Rain takes it.

Absolutely!!!  Locomotive is the "title track" for the illusions records even though the name of the song isn't use you illusion.  The one song that sticks out to me most from the July 1991 forum show I attended(remember, the albums weren't out for these shows).  In 1991, I was 8 months away from hiring out with the Southern Pacific Railroad.  The Union Pacific railroad bought us in 1996.  In 1998, I became a locomotive engineer.  I had a 60 minute drive into work my first night as an engineer.  I listened to Locomotive 6-7 times.  90-100 miles per hour on the empty 91 freeway.  My favorite line:  But you're such a stupid woman, and I'm such a stupid man.  It calls her out but he admits to his fuckedupedness.

Therein lies the FtheUP.  To know em' is to f'm

[phi_kai_phi]

well on a GNR fan board isn't every song "under rated"?  Now.... MOST under rated is a big debate.

[COMAMOTIVE]

Well, my name is not Coma-Yesterdays ...is it?

[Guns N RockMusic]

No, it's not. The artwork is the basis for the titles.

Well, since they wrote the music before Axl chose the artwork.  The chosen artwork would be based from the music.  Since Locomotive is the only song that mention illusion, it seems like a logical assumption, though I seem to remember Axl saying he got the idea from this song.  I could be wrong though.

[ARC]

No, it's generic.

One of the UYI's fillers.

[polluxlm]

No, it's not. The artwork is the basis for the titles.

Well, since they wrote the music before Axl chose the artwork.? The chosen artwork would be based from the music.? Since Locomotive is the only song that mention illusion, it seems like a logical assumption, though I seem to remember Axl saying he got the idea from this song.? I could be wrong though.

It's not the only song, DDM also mentions it.

Axl was cleary into illusions and everything that goes with it, still is, so it's no wonder that a couple of songs among 30 would mention the word. A word which is also very fitted for lyrics.

But as to what determined the choice of album title I'm only going after what Axl said himself. By using your logic, isn't it also strange that the paintings the artwork is based on is named Use Your Illusion? It's a chicken and egg thing both ways, that's why I'm leaning towards what Axl said.

[freedom78]

I love this lyric:

SWEETNESS IS A VIRTUE
AND YOU LOST YOUR VIRTUE LONG AGO
YOU KNOW I'D LIKE TO HURT YOU
BUT MY CONSCIENCE ALWAYS TELLS ME NO
YOU COULD SELL YOUR BODY ON THE STREET
TO ANYONE WHOM YOU MIGHT MEET
WHO'D LOVE TO TRY AND GET INSIDE
AND BUST YOUR INNOCENCE OPEN WIDE

But I don't know if it's MOST underrated.

[dave-gnfnr2k]

btw the song is really called Loco Motive but there was a spelling error when they printed the cd and lyrics.

[ARC]

I love this lyric:

SWEETNESS IS A VIRTUE
AND YOU LOST YOUR VIRTUE LONG AGO
YOU KNOW I'D LIKE TO HURT YOU
BUT MY CONSCIENCE ALWAYS TELLS ME NO
YOU COULD SELL YOUR BODY ON THE STREET
TO ANYONE WHOM YOU MIGHT MEET
WHO'D LOVE TO TRY AND GET INSIDE
AND BUST YOUR INNOCENCE OPEN WIDE

But I don't know if it's MOST underrated.

Axl is really quite an aggressive person isn't he...

Why does he want to 'hurt' women...?

[dave-gnfnr2k]

estranged is the most underrated gnr song. Its their best and the aveage gnr fan doesnt even know about it. Sad, really

[COMAMOTIVE]

estranged is the most underrated gnr song. Its their best and the aveage gnr fan doesnt even know about it. Sad, really

Anyone that does'nt " know " this song cannot even be given the title " Average fan "

[dave-gnfnr2k]

estranged is the most underrated gnr song. Its their best and the aveage gnr fan doesnt even know about it. Sad, really

Anyone that does'nt " know " this song cannot even be given the title " Average fan "

Causal fan is a better word. The causal fan just knows the hits like wttj, mr b, nov rain, scom, pc etc

[RitzWalker8]

Locomotive is one of my favorite GNR songs.  Anyone who sayd it is a filler is dead wrong.  There aren't any GNR fillers anyway.

[Bang Bang]

estranged is the most underrated gnr song. Its their best and the aveage gnr fan doesnt even know about it. Sad, really

Anyone that does'nt " know " this song cannot even be given the title " Average fan "

Re: Estranged

Beautiful song.? My favorite too.? The problem is, its drippy!? Every chick I was ever with says its drippy, and I can't share my appreciation for this song with them.? Nobody is willing to "give it time, to read between the lines".  It makes sense though.? Its a song about losing your love so its a catch 22:? Beautiful song about love, that portends its end...? Sad.? Drippy, yet brilliant and beautiful.

[Risico]

Average song. The outro, however, is freaking amazing.

The song's just so repetitive, in my opinion.

How is it repetive?

Aside from the outro, which as I said, is terrific, the song just sounds generic - And for some reaon, I find the chorus to be extremely irritating. Perhaps the only Guns song that really makes me feel that way. It just goes on far too long without changing itself up, then that random but glorious outro caps it off.

This song didn't need to be longer than 5 minutes, but it goes on for nearly 8 (if memory serves) and it just drags.

Now Estranged, on the other hand - That's a truly underrated and incredible song.

[Albert S Miller]

I love this lyric:

SWEETNESS IS A VIRTUE
AND YOU LOST YOUR VIRTUE LONG AGO
YOU KNOW I'D LIKE TO HURT YOU
BUT MY CONSCIENCE ALWAYS TELLS ME NO
YOU COULD SELL YOUR BODY ON THE STREET
TO ANYONE WHOM YOU MIGHT MEET
WHO'D LOVE TO TRY AND GET INSIDE
AND BUST YOUR INNOCENCE OPEN WIDE

But I don't know if it's MOST underrated.

Axl is really quite an aggressive person isn't he...

Why does he want to 'hurt' women...?

I don't think he wants to hurt women, I think the women have hurt him, how he deals with the pain, is obviously through lyrics.

[King Axl]

"Locomotive" is one of the better songs on Use Your Illusion II, but my favorite off that album has always been "Breakdown". I can completely identify with the lyrics of that song.

[chriskon72]

"If love is blind I guess I'll buy myself a cane" ....fuckin brilliant. I'd love for dizzy to do the outro with the band as a solo that would be awesome. One of my fav's from the UYI set.

[CheapJon]

btw the song is really called Loco Motive but there was a spelling error when they printed the cd and lyrics.

source to that statement?

[Juanjay]

"Sweet heart don't make me laugh, you's getting too big for your pants" has always been my favorite line from that song.