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« on: August 14, 2007, 07:25:16 PM »

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HZgUjMFlYno

a good high quality clip.... No sure of the show. Says Sturgis South Dakota..  Oh well.  Great clip!
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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2007, 07:31:18 PM »

Wow, this version is more electric (duff's bass) and Matt plays the full kit for the ending.  This is more like the Live Era Version.  It kicks ass! 
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« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2007, 07:44:36 PM »

Only thing that could make this better is Slash busting out the oldschool Electric solo he did back in the day during use your illusion tour.
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« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2007, 07:48:34 PM »

Scott must have really loved doing another GN'R song.  It's funny how Axl said Slash and Duff didn't want to play these types of songs, but here they are in their own band, playing Patience. Maybe they'll make it a regular.
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« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2007, 07:52:02 PM »

 the performance rocked.
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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2007, 08:49:49 PM »

It still lacks the soul of the original.

The soul a song gets when the singer sings it like he means it.



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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2007, 09:13:46 PM »

It still lacks the soul of the original.

The soul a song gets when the singer sings it like he means it.



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It was better than OAR's cover of it.  It was better than Johm Mayer's cover of it.  Need I go on?  I am not saying its better than GNR's lies version.. Its not.  Its not better than Live Era.  It is better musically than Current GNR, and give vocals to Axl.  Last time I saw GNR, Fink butchered Patience sooo bad that he didn't do the ending all the way and no Paradise City. 
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« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2007, 09:57:34 PM »

It was better than OAR's cover of it.  It was better than Johm Mayer's cover of it. 

I haven't heard those.





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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2007, 10:12:00 PM »

It still lacks the soul of the original.

The soul a song gets when the singer sings it like he means it.



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i agree.

similiar to the band playing a song like they mean it. which is arguably only possible if you actually wrote it. 
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« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2007, 10:15:11 PM »

dude Finck does some amazing stuff on Patience.
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« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2007, 11:04:42 PM »

here's an mp3 256kbps of that Patience version in the YouTube link

http://rapidshare.com/files/49056952/VR-Patience-Sturgis-SD.mp3

info about this show:

http://www.velvet-revolver.com/concerts.php?s=date&p=070808

Date: August 8, 2007
Location: Sturgis, SD
Venue: Buffalo Chip Campground; 132nd Ave, Sturgis, SD 20603 [ Venue website ]
Box Office Number: 605-892-4101
Additional Info: Sturgis Rally 2007

Set List

    * Let It Roll
    * Do It For The Kids
    * Big Machine
    * She Mine
    * Fall To Pieces
    * Sucker Train Blues
    * Vasoline
    * Get Out The Door
    * The Last Fight
    * It's So Easy
    * Crackerman
    * Set Me Free
    * She Builds Quick Machines
    * Mr. Brownstone
    * Patience
    * Slither.
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« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2007, 11:06:52 PM »

similiar to the band playing a song like they mean it. which is arguably only possible if you actually wrote it. 

Have you ever heard/seen Pearl Jam cover Rockin' In The Free World?

How about Jimi Hendrix "All Along The Watch Tower"?

Johnny Cash "Hurt"?




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« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2007, 11:30:00 PM »

Excelente performance, better, much better how New guns n' roses play it..
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« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2007, 11:49:15 PM »

similiar to the band playing a song like they mean it. which is arguably only possible if you actually wrote it.?

Have you ever heard/seen Pearl Jam cover Rockin' In The Free World?

How about Jimi Hendrix "All Along The Watch Tower"?

Johnny Cash "Hurt"?




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all great covers. i love lots of great covers. but in my opinion, very few IF ANY have the same soul, or feeling, as the originals.

sex type thing is one of the greatest hard rock songs ever made. i'm a much bigger gnr fan than STP fan. but given the chouce i'd rather hear STP play it....it's more real.
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« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2007, 12:17:20 AM »

similiar to the band playing a song like they mean it. which is arguably only possible if you actually wrote it.?

Have you ever heard/seen Pearl Jam cover Rockin' In The Free World?

How about Jimi Hendrix "All Along The Watch Tower"?

Johnny Cash "Hurt"?




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all great covers. i love lots of great covers. but in my opinion, very few IF ANY have the same soul, or feeling, as the originals.

sex type thing is one of the greatest hard rock songs ever made. i'm a much bigger gnr fan than STP fan. but given the chouce i'd rather hear STP play it....it's more real.

I could name literally dozens of covers , studio and live, which are better than the original. That is extremely subjective of course, so if you always prefer the original, I can't really argue with you. Many of Led Zep's songs were covers. I've heard some of the originals, and not been blown away. "Last Kiss" by Pearl Jam. Huge hit and a good song, though the lyrics are super cliche. But the original is absolutely fucking awful.

I could go on and on.  But I have never heard anyone do a GNR cover better than the original and it will probably never happen. Maybe with "my world" or something like that.

It was better than OAR's cover of it. It was better than Johm Mayer's cover of it.

I haven't heard those.

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Neither have I. Are those live or studio?

 Anyway, it's pointless and unfair to compare VR's live performance with GNR's studio recordings... or anyone's live performance with anyone's studio.  VR patience should be compared to live GNR patience. I think this song is extremely reliant on the vocals and Axl's heartfelt lyrics, more than many other songs probably. Scott gives it a good try, and Slash obviously knows how to play it on guitar, but no Axl, no Patience to me. Interesting though, and I'm happy that they played it.
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« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2007, 04:55:31 AM »


Johnny Cash "Hurt"?

That song is so good yes

On the subject, I hate it that VR are playing Patience.

That band is just so full of shit. "We won't play GN'R or STP songs anymore". Yeah, right.
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« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2007, 04:58:49 AM »


Johnny Cash "Hurt"?

That song is so good yes

On the subject, I hate it that VR are playing Patience.

That band is just so full of shit. "We won't play GN'R or STP songs anymore". Yeah, right.

a few weeks later after Slash said that. Scott said that, its not true. That they are still going to play them because they are fun to play live. even though slash did say it in an interview
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« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2007, 05:00:00 AM »

That band is just so full of shit. "We won't play GN'R or STP songs anymore". Yeah, right.

Yeah after slash said that they made it clear that they actually would still do the covers....

They changed their mind so fucking what...
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« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2007, 05:10:51 AM »


They changed their mind so fucking what...

They change their minds all the time. They say this and that and never stick to it. I'm tired of that band. I hope they crash, soon.

I bet Weiland loves singing Axl's words hihi
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« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2007, 06:12:46 AM »

The music is great! But the vocals should be done with the correct melodies.. Great guitars and drums!
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