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« Reply #120 on: December 04, 2007, 07:23:50 PM »

Do all those people you mentioned get arrested repeatedly or is it just Scott?

This isn't his first time.....




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Hell, I've had two. They were both 20 years ago, and I would never drive drunk today, but when ?was in school, ?I used to drive drunk every night ... a lot of times after knocking off a liter or more of liquor. I have also had a few accidents, but never when I was drunk.
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« Reply #121 on: December 04, 2007, 07:34:53 PM »

Prosecutor:   "Your honor, I would like to display Evidence 1A: The album titled Contraband, a song called Superhuman, lyrics and vocals by Scott Weiland..."  (inserts CD)

"...gETTin' Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh
CrASHin' caaaaaaaaaars
and mAKin' mistaaaaaakes..."

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« Reply #122 on: December 04, 2007, 09:58:51 PM »

Do all those people you mentioned get arrested repeatedly or is it just Scott?

This isn't his first time.....




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i work with a guy who has 3

Hell, I've had two. They were both 20 years ago, and I would never drive drunk today, but when  was in school,  I used to drive drunk every night ... a lot of times after knocking off a liter or more of liquor. I have also had a few accidents, but never when I was drunk.
There's a guy I know, and he drinks CONSTANTLY... I don't even know how he gets this alcohol... he has no job or money, but drives drunk ALL the time, and seems to do it well, apparently...
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« Reply #123 on: December 04, 2007, 10:45:56 PM »

MOST of you people here are crazy for saying that DUI is such a terrible "crime".  I'm not saying that it is good but....

1.4 million people were arrested for DUI in the United States in 2004

source:  http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/pdf/nrd-30/NCSA/TSF2005/810616.pdf

Now, only a small percentage of people who drink & drive actually get arrested for it. 

People who get DUI are
Grandmothers , Grandfathers, everyday housemoms & fathers, teachers, even police officers and politicians. 
POINT  Everyday people get DUI, people just like YOU!   DUI is not a felony!

Velvet Revolver booked the 2 new years gigs after Scotts arrest, so what does that say to you?   VR is alive and well.  This may be a bump in the road, but not a big one.

Point aside, R&R is a dangerous lifestyle.

R&R is awesome fucking music, being a reckless moron leads to a dangerous lifestyle. They are a completely different entity.
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« Reply #124 on: December 04, 2007, 10:50:02 PM »

MOST of you people here are crazy for saying that DUI is such a terrible "crime".? I'm not saying that it is good but....

1.4 million people were arrested for DUI in the United States in 2004

source:? http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/pdf/nrd-30/NCSA/TSF2005/810616.pdf

Now, only a small percentage of people who drink & drive actually get arrested for it.?

People who get DUI are
Grandmothers , Grandfathers, everyday housemoms & fathers, teachers, even police officers and politicians.?
POINT? Everyday people get DUI, people just like YOU!? ?DUI is not a felony!

Velvet Revolver booked the 2 new years gigs after Scotts arrest, so what does that say to you?? ?VR is alive and well.? This may be a bump in the road, but not a big one.

Point aside, R&R is a dangerous lifestyle.

R&R is awesome fucking music, being a reckless moron leads to a dangerous lifestyle. They are a completely different entity.

exactly. im a fan...but the people scoffing off what he did and actually Encouraging him on some forums...is just Lame.

and it might not be the end of VR, but the ship IS sinking and its a matter of time before it goes under. poor sales of libertad, slash looking to do a solo album, scott relapsing, scott showing interest in an STP reunion..poor attended shows..duff/slash showing interest in GNR

maybe theyll surprise me and come out of this strong, make a killer 3rd cd...but idk...2007 hasnt been the best year to VR

me personally, i dont mind. as long as duff/slash/scott keep going in another band and maybe hook up with a more RNR singer to make some hard rock
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« Reply #125 on: December 04, 2007, 10:59:51 PM »

He recently signed a book deal to write his memoirs, I suppose this will be another chapter, lol. 


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« Reply #126 on: December 05, 2007, 06:18:29 AM »

You wonder where rumors gets started...this from eNews 2.0

This is the last line of the report... rofl


Weiland was set on fire by his wife, literally after a domestic fight that ended with his clothes turned into ashes and his wife released on a $50,000 bond.

http://www.enews20.com/news_Velvet_Revolvers_Singer_Weiland_Arrested_For_DUI_04186.html






fuck, i want a wife like that! That would be so exciting! I'd be a fuckin' rush just waking up in the mornig?

Wonder why the police was contcated in the first place? Usually police have better things to do... He could've easily settled this on his own...
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« Reply #127 on: December 05, 2007, 10:02:33 AM »

This from AP

Weiland's publicist said in a statement that Weiland was involved in a "minor accident," but denies he was driving under the influence.

"Scott was not driving under the influence of a drug, legal or illegal," Kristine Ashton-Magnuson said. "He voluntarily took a breathalyzer test which the defense believes registers well within the legal limit."

"He is anxious to get to court ... and clear this matter up," she said.

The statement doesn't specify whether Weiland denies driving under the influence of drugs or of alcohol.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iBZ8bW71cstdOVS7uoVw6e17aqCgD8TAF5881
Does drug use register in a breathalyzer?? If it was drugs (as opposed to alcohol), then wouldn't the "breathalyzer test which the defense believes registers well within the legal limit" be a moot point and the refusal to take a blood or urine test be an admission of drug use (again, as opposed to alcohol)?
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« Reply #128 on: December 05, 2007, 10:33:22 AM »

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A breathalyzer (or breathalyser) is a device for estimating blood alcohol content (BAC) from a breath sample.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breathalyzer



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« Reply #129 on: December 05, 2007, 12:04:44 PM »

The bright side of this is we no longer have to BS about Slashs autobiography, hihi
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« Reply #130 on: December 05, 2007, 12:51:04 PM »

If the laws in Cal. are anything like NY refusing to take a breath or blood test guarantees Scott at least one thing. Regardless of the out come of the case he'll be walking to work for the next 6 months..
The reason for the 40K bail is due to his past convictions and celeberty/financial situation.
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« Reply #131 on: December 05, 2007, 02:32:39 PM »

This from AP

Weiland's publicist said in a statement that Weiland was involved in a "minor accident," but denies he was driving under the influence.

"Scott was not driving under the influence of a drug, legal or illegal," Kristine Ashton-Magnuson said. "He voluntarily took a breathalyzer test which the defense believes registers well within the legal limit."

"He is anxious to get to court ... and clear this matter up," she said.

The statement doesn't specify whether Weiland denies driving under the influence of drugs or of alcohol.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iBZ8bW71cstdOVS7uoVw6e17aqCgD8TAF5881
Does drug use register in a breathalyzer?? If it was drugs (as opposed to alcohol), then wouldn't the "breathalyzer test which the defense believes registers well within the legal limit" be a moot point and the refusal to take a blood or urine test be an admission of drug use (again, as opposed to alcohol)?

Totally moot.  Them stating he wasn't liquored up is going to mean nothing since he isn't being charged with driving while drunk.
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« Reply #132 on: December 05, 2007, 05:21:32 PM »

This from AP

Weiland's publicist said in a statement that Weiland was involved in a "minor accident," but denies he was driving under the influence.

"Scott was not driving under the influence of a drug, legal or illegal," Kristine Ashton-Magnuson said. "He voluntarily took a breathalyzer test which the defense believes registers well within the legal limit."

"He is anxious to get to court ... and clear this matter up," she said.

The statement doesn't specify whether Weiland denies driving under the influence of drugs or of alcohol.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iBZ8bW71cstdOVS7uoVw6e17aqCgD8TAF5881
Does drug use register in a breathalyzer?  If it was drugs (as opposed to alcohol), then wouldn't the "breathalyzer test which the defense believes registers well within the legal limit" be a moot point and the refusal to take a blood or urine test be an admission of drug use (again, as opposed to alcohol)?

Totally moot. Them stating he wasn't liquored up is going to mean nothing since he isn't being charged with driving while drunk.

See the relavent part that I emphasized.

23152.  (a) It is unlawful for any person who is under the influence of any alcoholic beverage or drug, or under the combined influence of any alcoholic beverage and drug, to drive a vehicle.]/i]

(b) It is unlawful for any person who has 0.08 percent or more, by weight, of alcohol in his or her blood to drive a vehicle.


 I think you are misinterpreting the statue. Though, I could be wrong.
 Do you have a background in Law?


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« Reply #133 on: December 05, 2007, 07:00:47 PM »

This from AP

Weiland's publicist said in a statement that Weiland was involved in a "minor accident," but denies he was driving under the influence.

"Scott was not driving under the influence of a drug, legal or illegal," Kristine Ashton-Magnuson said. "He voluntarily took a breathalyzer test which the defense believes registers well within the legal limit."

"He is anxious to get to court ... and clear this matter up," she said.

The statement doesn't specify whether Weiland denies driving under the influence of drugs or of alcohol.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iBZ8bW71cstdOVS7uoVw6e17aqCgD8TAF5881
Does drug use register in a breathalyzer?  If it was drugs (as opposed to alcohol), then wouldn't the "breathalyzer test which the defense believes registers well within the legal limit" be a moot point and the refusal to take a blood or urine test be an admission of drug use (again, as opposed to alcohol)?

Totally moot. Them stating he wasn't liquored up is going to mean nothing since he isn't being charged with driving while drunk.

See the relavent part that I emphasized.

23152.  (a) It is unlawful for any person who is under the influence of any alcoholic beverage or drug, or under the combined influence of any alcoholic beverage and drug, to drive a vehicle.]/i]

(b) It is unlawful for any person who has 0.08 percent or more, by weight, of alcohol in his or her blood to drive a vehicle.


 I think you are misinterpreting the statue. Though, I could be wrong.
 Do you have a background in Law?




So was he arrested for being under the influence of any alcoholic beverage or drug? Or for "being under the influence of a drug?".  Because even if he passed the breathalizer, police can still choose to not release the person.
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« Reply #134 on: December 05, 2007, 08:12:10 PM »

See the relavent part that I emphasized.

23152.  (a) It is unlawful for any person who is under the influence of any alcoholic beverage or drug, or under the combined influence of any alcoholic beverage and drug, to drive a vehicle.]/i]

(b) It is unlawful for any person who has 0.08 percent or more, by weight, of alcohol in his or her blood to drive a vehicle.


 I think you are misinterpreting the statue. Though, I could be wrong.
 Do you have a background in Law?
I'm not sure if you are addressing this reply to me but the point I was trying (obviously unsuccessfully) to make was that a breathalyzer would NOT register drugs in a person's system and the refusal to take a blood/urine test is usually considered in court as an admission of guilt for being under the influence of drugs.  So the statement by his own publicist could probably be used against him.

As for my "background in Law" ... I have been a participant in the Legal System ... just not in the way I believe you're referring to.  Tongue
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« Reply #135 on: December 05, 2007, 08:34:45 PM »

^ No, it was to Bandita. A page or two back, we were trying to interpret the statue. I think part a) is qualitataive, and part b) is quanitative. I think that the point she is trying to make, is that part a) is quantitative.
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« Reply #136 on: December 05, 2007, 08:58:09 PM »

^ No, it was to Bandita. A page or two back, we were trying to interpret the statue. I think part a) is qualitataive, and part b) is quanitative. I think that the point she is trying to make, is that part a) is quantitative.

Actually the information I gave was from some legal websites involving getting charged with DUI (drugs) in California not my own personal interpretation.

Also, it is common knowledge that when they state he is being charged with DUI (driving while under the influence of an unspecified DRUG) that it isn't alcohol or it would have been specified as such and would have registered on the breathalyzer which is why they were asking him to take a blood/urine test.? This is what makes his statement to the press moot.

If he was being charged with an alcohol crime he would have been charged with both parts A and B, that is how a DUI pertaining to alcohol is charged.

See the site below for further explanation.


http://www.duicentral.com/dui/drugs.html
Driving under the influence of drugs (DUI drugs, DUID or drugged driving), or the combined influence of alcohol and drugs, is a criminal offense in California, punishable in most cases in the same way as driving under the influence of alcohol. The relevant statute for driving under the influence of drugs is Vehicle Code section 23152a:
It is unlawful for any person who is under the influence of any alcoholic beverage or drug, or under the combined influence of any alcoholic beverage and drug, to drive a vehicle.

There are a number of other differences between the two offenses. For example, while the most common chemical test given in most drunk driving arrests is a breath test, the chemical test given a person suspected of driving under the influence of drugs will be a blood test, although occasionally a urine test will be used; the breath test cannot detect the presence of drugs.


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« Reply #137 on: December 05, 2007, 09:56:35 PM »

^Thanks, I'll look at more tomorrow when I have more time.
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« Reply #138 on: December 05, 2007, 10:01:26 PM »

A sidenote: Kiefer Sutherland was sentenced to 48 days in jail in connection with his September arrest for driving under the influence (30 days for a DUI-related charge, 18 days for probation violation). He was also sentenced to five years' probation and ordered to enroll in an 18-month alcohol education class and attend weekly AA sessions for six months. And pay a fine....




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« Reply #139 on: December 05, 2007, 10:44:24 PM »

^Thanks, I'll look at more tomorrow when I have more time.

No problem! Wink

Jarmo, Kiefer is a mess, I think that guy has been arrested more times than he can count.  He is famous for getting wasted in public and removing his pants. hihi
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