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Re: Velvet Revolver To Part Ways With Scott Weiland
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I'm not sure Scott will appreciate Billboard's title...
Velvet Revolver Boots Scott Weiland
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003783878
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Re: Velvet Revolver To Part Ways With Scott Weiland
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Quote from: FunkyMonkey on April 01, 2008, 04:19:48 PM
Press Release Source: Sanctuary Artist Management
Velvet Revolver to Part Ways With Singer
Tuesday April 1, 3:46 pm ET
LOS ANGELES--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Velvet Revolver founding members Slash, Duff McKagan, Matt Sorum and Dave Kushner announced today that they are parting ways with singer Scott Weiland. "This band is all about its fans and its music and Scott Weiland isn't 100% committed to either," said Slash. "Among other things, his increasingly erratic on-stage behavior and personal problems have forced us to move on."
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/080401/20080401006700.html?.v=1
I'm not a fan of the tone of the above,
at all.
Just say you're parting ways and move forward.
The finger pointing at Weiland sits no better with me than Weiland's goofy press release aimed at Sorum.
That said...
It makes for very interesting rock n roll theatre....
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im awaiting scott weilands venemous rant towards slash and all of this....the next few months might be pretty fun to watch..
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Re: Velvet Revolver To Part Ways With Scott Weiland
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Quote from: FunkyMonkey on April 01, 2008, 05:56:17 PM
I'm not sure Scott will appreciate Billboard's title...
Velvet Revolver Boots Scott Weiland
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003783878
Considering he was open about how this was the last tour (unlike the rest of the band), I wouldn't be surprised if he actually told the band he was leaving some time ago.
Then they put out that press release to make it seem like he was fired.
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I appologize for bringing A... eeh, I mean MR X into this even if I kind of complimented him, sorry!
Yeah I know they are doing things that makes them money, but it dosent mean that they are only about the money. With that reasoning all recording/touring artist are in it for the money in some way...
Dont know if you (Jarmo) directed your last sentance at me, but I dident even hint at you being in VR??
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Re: Velvet Revolver To Part Ways With Scott Weiland
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Quote from: jarmo on April 01, 2008, 05:59:19 PM
Then they put out that press release to make it seem like he was fired.
I agree 100%.
The day he confirmed the STP reunion he in effect fired them, made STP his priority.
This was a face saviing move at best, a classless one at that.
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Quote from: Falcon on April 01, 2008, 05:58:45 PM
Quote from: FunkyMonkey on April 01, 2008, 04:19:48 PM
Press Release Source: Sanctuary Artist Management
Velvet Revolver to Part Ways With Singer
Tuesday April 1, 3:46 pm ET
LOS ANGELES--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Velvet Revolver founding members Slash, Duff McKagan, Matt Sorum and Dave Kushner announced today that they are parting ways with singer Scott Weiland. "This band is all about its fans and its music and Scott Weiland isn't 100% committed to either," said Slash. "Among other things, his increasingly erratic on-stage behavior and personal problems have forced us to move on."
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/080401/20080401006700.html?.v=1
I'm not a fan of the tone of the above,
at all.
Just say you're parting ways and move forward.
The finger pointing at Weiland sits no better with me than Weiland's goofy press release aimed at Sorum.
That said...
It makes for very interesting rock n roll theatre....
I understand what you're saying, but to me it's honestly not as bad as Weiland's press release against Sorum or Weiland's other infamous press release a couple of years ago.
Overall, Slash could have been a lot more venomous, but he wasn't. It was honest without being childish and resorting to name-calling.
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Quote from: coolman78SLASH on April 01, 2008, 06:01:12 PM
Yeah I know they are doing things that makes them money, but it dosent mean that they are only about the money. With that reasoning all recording/touring artist are in it for the money in some way...
I didn't say
only
either!
I hinted at it being a possible motivator in at least some cases while Slash says "This band is
all
about its fans and its music".
Quote from: coolman78SLASH on April 01, 2008, 06:01:12 PM
Dont know if you (Jarmo) directed your last sentance at me, but I dident even hint at you being in VR??
No.
/jarmo
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Re: Velvet Revolver To Part Ways With Scott Weiland
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Quote from: jarmo on April 01, 2008, 06:08:21 PM
Quote from: coolman78SLASH on April 01, 2008, 06:01:12 PM
Yeah I know they are doing things that makes them money, but it dosent mean that they are only about the money. With that reasoning all recording/touring artist are in it for the money in some way...
I didn't say
only
either!
I hinted at it being a possible motivator in at least some cases while Slash says "This band is
all
about its fans and its music".
Quote from: coolman78SLASH on April 01, 2008, 06:01:12 PM
Dont know if you (Jarmo) directed your last sentance at me, but I dident even hint at you being in VR??
No.
/jarmo
Jarmo, like you even said, Slash is a Rock Icon, a brand name, and a Session player to the stars. I really do think they do VR for themselves. Would they like to be successful? Sure, but he doesn't need VR to make a living.
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Re: Velvet Revolver To Part Ways With Scott Weiland
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Well that is that, I guess. At the very least, fans could have hoped for a reconciliation after STP was through, but this even kills that possibility. Scott looked great up there with Slash N' Duff even though I felt his voice was overwhelmed by the freight train from VR's harder tracks. He wrote some terrific ballads and I truly appreciate Loving the Alien and Messages as two truly terrific contributions to my life.
And now he's moving on....
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Quote from: Falcon on April 01, 2008, 06:03:45 PM
Quote from: jarmo on April 01, 2008, 05:59:19 PM
Then they put out that press release to make it seem like he was fired.
I agree 100%.
The day he confirmed the STP reunion he in effect fired them, made STP his priority.
This was a face saviing move at best, a classless one at that.
Falcon, I don't see the need for the release either. I rather not burn bridges. There must be some behind the scenes stuff we don't know about. That being said, Slash's comments were dead on. Scott this past tour was aweful and disrespectful and they often had to turn his mike off cause he was wasted and was fucking up a good performance.
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Quote from: killingvector on April 01, 2008, 06:15:13 PM
Well that is that, I guess. At the very least, fans could have hoped for a reconciliation after STP was through, but this even kills that possibility. Scott looked great up there with Slash N' Duff even though I felt his voice was overwhelmed by the freight train from VR's harder tracks. He wrote some terrific ballads and I truly appreciate Loving the Alien and Messages as two truly terrific contributions to my life.
And now he's moving on....
You Got No Right, his finest lyrical moment in VR. The other ballads were good too, even if repetitive.
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Quote from: Smoking Guns on April 01, 2008, 06:17:12 PM
Quote from: killingvector on April 01, 2008, 06:15:13 PM
Well that is that, I guess. At the very least, fans could have hoped for a reconciliation after STP was through, but this even kills that possibility. Scott looked great up there with Slash N' Duff even though I felt his voice was overwhelmed by the freight train from VR's harder tracks. He wrote some terrific ballads and I truly appreciate Loving the Alien and Messages as two truly terrific contributions to my life.
And now he's moving on....
You Got No Right, his finest lyrical moment in VR. The other ballads were good too, even if repetitive.
That was a good one, too. With a great Slash solo.
Cheers.
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Re: Velvet Revolver To Part Ways With Scott Weiland
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Quote from: Smoking Guns on April 01, 2008, 06:14:00 PM
Sure, but he doesn't need VR to make a living.
Compare where he was before VR and where he is today.
It's not a question about just making a living. Look at Izzy. He seems to manage just fine without all the attention and stuff.
He's way more in the spotlight today than he was in say 2002.
And once again I'd like to remind you that I don't care how he makes a living. It's up to him.
But don't tell us "it's all about the music and fans".
/jarmo
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Quote from: jarmo on April 01, 2008, 05:44:19 PM
Quote from: FunkyMonkey on April 01, 2008, 04:19:48 PM
"This band is all about its fans and its music and Scott Weiland isn't 100% committed to either," said Slash.
Not about the money?
Oh darn....
/jarmo
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Please name me one band that doesnt do this shit for the money?
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Quote from: D on April 01, 2008, 06:26:42 PM
Quote from: jarmo on April 01, 2008, 05:44:19 PM
Quote from: FunkyMonkey on April 01, 2008, 04:19:48 PM
"This band is all about its fans and its music and Scott Weiland isn't 100% committed to either," said Slash.
Not about the money?
Oh darn....
/jarmo
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Please name me one band that doesnt do this shit for the money?
D!!!!!!!!! No you didn't... You know who he is gonna say. Now you are guilty of bringing "them" up in the VR section. UGH.
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Quote from: Ali on April 01, 2008, 06:05:59 PM
I understand what you're saying, but to me it's honestly not as bad as Weiland's press release against Sorum
There's really no justification or levels of "bad" for me on this one, both were sheer idiocy
Quote from: Ali on April 01, 2008, 06:05:59 PM
or Weiland's other infamous press release a couple of years ago.
Lets not forget the
other
press release and chain of events that prompted that one, easily the lowest point in their whole history for me.
Quote from: Ali on April 01, 2008, 06:05:59 PM
Overall, Slash could have been a lot more venomous, but he wasn't. It was honest without being childish and resorting to name-calling.
Ali
Sure it could've been worse...but...
It still looks like a face saving move to me, simple as that.
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Quote from: D on April 01, 2008, 06:26:42 PM
Jarmo
Please name me one band that doesnt do this shit for the money?
Pearl Jam.
Happy?
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Quote from: Falcon on April 01, 2008, 05:58:45 PM
It makes for very interesting rock n roll theatre....
That's for damn sure.
This was mishandled by all parties involved. They all just kept stooping lower and lower. The bigger thing to do would have been to just do the press release without attacking Scott in the process. They could have just stated they were parting ways and have been done with it.
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Quote from: jarmo on April 01, 2008, 05:53:54 PM
Don't bring Axl into this.
LOL!
Dude ... you really have to jump off that train ... he didn't bring Axl up
His point was entirely about the course of Slash and Duff's career choices, and entirely not about Axl.
Personally I'm glad about this situation ... VR needs stability and Scott doesn't offer that. I'm in a band and if my singer was THAT flakey, I'd be fucking pissed off a LOT.
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