WHY?

[Lisa]

why was the Kevin Cogill interview axed? there was over a 100 views..people WERE reading it.
What rule did I infringe upon?
thanks.

[AdZ]

It wasn't deleted because you did anything wrong.

[D]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWTdbPjsBSs&NR=1

I am so sorry for posting this. Im not tryin to be a dickhead but this is just too perfect

[Lisa]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWTdbPjsBSs&NR=1

I am so sorry for posting this. Im not tryin to be a dickhead but this is just too perfect

D..explain why you posted this? how is it relevant? I merely asked a compound question.
if you would like to insult me, save everyone the time and PM me. You DO NOT want to get in a pissing match with me.

[D]

I am so sorry Lisa

It was just the perfect thread title and it made me think of that.

one of those can't resist moments.

I am guessing they don't want to give this guy anymore publicity or coverage than he already has gotten by ripping off GNR.

[GNRreunioneventually]

i don't know whats funnier that youtube link of kerrigan or D's avatar

[Nicos]

Good question Lisa!!

I really wonder why as well, but then again I just might know the answer (as well as you do?).

 

[14 Yrs Of Silence]

Its a shame that this interview was removed because here you have posted a headline in the news section about the guy's case and when he finally responds its censored.  This site is certainly not fair and balanced like our friends at Fox News 

[Jim Bob]

to be fair, its understandable that jarmo wouldn't want to give the guy anymore publicity after he did what he did to harm the band.   on the other hand, I can understand why syndicate wanted to interview him and thats fine too.

[$$$$]

it did not speak highly of fernando. thats why it was deleted.

[lynn1961]

Interesting that a legitimate question was asked and no real answer was given as to why.  Whoever chose to delete it should have the balls to answer her question. 

I read the interview at another site, where the interview originally came from.  I thought it was a very interesting interview and pertinent - as pertinent as being able to discuss the entire incident, here, in the first place.  Apparently we can talk about it but not allow the guy to speak for himself.  So, why was it pulled?  Because it's not an interview with someone directly involved with GnR?  Because it was with him?  Because it originated from a site and admin that is apparently not well thought of by some here?  Comments about Fernando?  (doubt it)  Comments about fan sites?   mmmmm.....I think that was probably it...comments not appreciated.   

Bottom line is.........Lisa deserves to have her question answered by whomever deleted it, as to why it was deleted.  Don't keep us guessing.   


 

[jarmo]

I'm not here to promote the activities of him or any other person who thinks leaking songs is up to him/her. That's the main issue.

Some of you see these guys as some kind of heroes, like a modern Robin Hood figure. I don't.



He was caught, he was found guilty and sentenced. That's all the interest I have.

If you guys want to extend his 15 minutes and promote your own sites doing so, you're obviously free to do so, but don't get upset if we don't play along.



The most amusing part is that some of you are annoyed about me posting news relating to the band members' side projects in the GN'R section, but you want to read interviews by guys who stole from the band?
Or the old "I don't care what Axl's assistant/old friend/band mate says, I want to hear from Axl!"..... Amusing.





/jarmo

[Lisa]

could we have left it up if he had gotten jail time? so we all could jump on him?
It was just an interesting interview and alot of people agreed with me. I don't know where you get off saying we are/were trying to promote his activities, I don't think there is one person who condones what he did.The interview was merely a chance to explain his side to some extent...to let us know as fans, what the hell went on. I think normal people were just interested in knowing more about how it came about,regardless if they agreed with it or not.

Thanks for the answer anyhoo,

Maid Marion

[jarmo]

Typical.

You asked a question, you got the truthful answer but it's not good enough. You have to come back with some supposedly witty remarks.....



You don't think it's promoting him? Maybe others do! Why can't you just respect that others might have different opinions? 

Explain his side? Why does he need to explain anything to the fans in the first place? He explained it to the court didn't he? With that in mind, they gave him his punishment. That's all that matters.

Maybe you want "his side of the story" so you can feel sorry for the guy?


To me it seems like certain GN'R fans are interested in anybody who goes against the band. The band = bad. Anybody who goes against them = good. That seems to be the general idea for some.

 




/jarmo

[Lisa]

Typical. 

[CheapJon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j6IBdHW_rY

[norway]

It's out there tho, for those who wanna read.

I do agree that this place is too much a gnr-propaganda network than a reliable source for acurate information-
-which is what it would seem to be themewise.

Will we ever see it in the archives at least?

If it is someone that would defend gnr in this matter it's certainly the HTGTH-peeps too.

[jarmo]

I do agree that this place is too much a gnr-propaganda network than a reliable source for acurate information-

Because in your mind reliable information comes from people who are against the band. Leakers, the media, Mick Wall etc.



/jarmo

[cotis]

I do agree that this place is too much a gnr-propaganda network than a reliable source for acurate information-

Because in your mind reliable information comes from people who are against the band. Leakers, the media, Mick Wall etc.



/jarmo

I don't think so. I think it is just nice to read any article/information on the band. Sucks you have to go elsewhere to get it....sometimes you even have to dig for it because other sites have followed the same model so they don't piss off GNR management. The site here is great, IMO, but perhaps a section with posts that GNR/You(Jarmo) don't agree with could be put there. An uncensored part so that all the 'untrue' information as you guys say, or articles by that-which-we-do-not-speak-of could go there. Just an idea...

[norway]

Because in your mind reliable information comes from people who are against the band. Leakers, the media, Mick Wall etc.



/jarmo

A source for gnr-related information, I'm pointing out that you are selective.

If it something we on HTGTH can do is infact say 'this and that has Mick Wall said, and this is because Mick Wall is wrong and biased'.

I'd say the posters here are mostly fans-
-and I always seen this as an objective and acurate source for information/gnr-history as far as the frontpage goes.

Many view it as such too, then the forum for fans of the band.

Then again, as papermedia gets less relevant, you're in a whole diferent world of legalities.

[jarmo]

I don't think so. I think it is just nice to read any article/information on the band. Sucks you have to go elsewhere to get it....sometimes you even have to dig for it because other sites have followed the same model so they don't piss off GNR management. The site here is great, IMO, but perhaps a section with posts that GNR/You(Jarmo) don't agree with could be put there. An uncensored part so that all the 'untrue' information as you guys say, or articles by that-which-we-do-not-speak-of could go there. Just an idea...

And why do you think I would be happy to spread lies and false information in the name of free speech?


I never understood the fascination with talking about something that's not true.



It's not easy. Some of you think that we only remove shit that's true! Which is hilarious.....

Some obviously get it.

Then you got those that believe anything they read. So if we post everything, they'll believe it.


Personally if I post something, I believe in it.

That's why I'm selective.

but perhaps a section with posts that GNR/You(Jarmo) don't agree with could be put there

Already exists: http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?board=15.0

 



/jarmo

[GypsySoul]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IcjHK4Llg4

[lynn1961]

but perhaps a section with posts that GNR/You(Jarmo) don't agree with could be put there

Already exists: http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?board=15.0

 



/jarmo

Was that even really necessary?


As for the interview being deleted, you gave your reasons and the question was answered and your reasons are valid ones.  However, I don't feel that by reading the interview it means anyone is feeling sorry for him.  And I don't feel it means that there was any interest in people who are "against" the band or that in being interested in the interview that it means that any of us are against the band.  I'm not looking for an argument, here, just defending myself and perhaps others for even having had an interest in it in the first place.   Others have different opinions and those opinions deserve respect, as well.

Thanks for answering the original question, anyway.

[jarmo]

but perhaps a section with posts that GNR/You(Jarmo) don't agree with could be put there

Already exists: http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?board=15.0

 



/jarmo

Was that even really necessary?

Not really. But it's funny. He said things I don't agree with.

Lots of those in that section.... 

As for the interview being deleted, you gave your reasons and the question was answered and your reasons are valid ones.  However, I don't feel that by reading the interview it means anyone is feeling sorry for him.  And I don't feel it means that there was any interest in people who are "against" the band or that in being interested in the interview that it means that any of us are against the band.  I'm not looking for an argument, here, just defending myself and perhaps others for even having had an interest in it in the first place.   Others have different opinions and those opinions deserve respect, as well.

And I don't see it that way.

I think the less we we hear from people like this, the better.

 

Thanks for answering the original question, anyway.

No problem.




/jarmo

[Bodhi]

are you guys serious?  Ever hear of google?  Kevin Cogill has over 448,000 google references, and the top 10 are all GNR related from various news sites like the NY Daily News.  Why do you HAVE to read about him here? 

[D]

I feel the guy has already stole his 15 minutes of fame, no need to add a 16th

and that is nothing against Lisa or any of those other people from there. I gave huge kudos to the BUmblefoot interview from there.

Kevin Cogill... I don't care if it was Jarmo or Lofton or any other GNR forum, I am tired of the guy.
His I am the Jesus of the GNR fan complex gets on my nerves.

[norway]

When we're at a why-topic, why was mine in the Obama thread removed?

If he can use statistics of arrestations, why can't I use statistics of gang-rapes to make lame hints?
That was an anti-racist comment infact.

Thinking doesn't hurt, not too much at least...

[jarmo]

The Obama thread has nothing to do with your white power propaganda.

That kind of shit has no place on this board. Get it?


Next time I find you posting your "white power" shit and trying to hide it, I won't be as nice.

Consider yourself warned.



/jarmo

[norway]

Next time I find you posting your "white power" shit and trying to hide it, I won't be as nice.

Not true, I like my people and culture thereof. You're looking for something that isn't there.

That was a comment to ridicule his assertion, but fine!

[jarmo]

Maybe you should stick to your people and culture and not try to mix with the rest of us.





/jarmo

[norway]

I sometimes become the stereotypes of racist, nazi and anti-semite purposedly to attack intoleranse.

If people gonna base discrimination on indoctrination,-
- and not by understanding a person sufficently then a goverment gets too much power.

People will then legislate discrimination if they fit into the description of whatever word triggers the mechanic.

Seems like a neverending cycle of lame, just shuffle the flags a bit.

So what if I am against interacial marriages?
Obama has a white mom, why are people calling him the first black president?

[jarmo]

You become a racist on purpose?

Priceless.


We've had this discussion before.

You made your point clear. No need to explain your close minded views.



I have no interest in associating myself with close minded morons who judge people based on the color of their skin.

Race isn't an issue on this board. Everybody is welcome.

You don't seem to promote that kind of thinking with your views. You can say that you love everybody, but it's always followed by a "but.....".

You love every race, but you don't want them to marry each other. You love all the people on the planet, as long as they stay in their corners. Etc etc.

Humanitarian of the year!



Next time you start talking about race on this board, you will get kicked out.

That's a promise.





/jarmo

[norway]

You made your point clear. No need to explain your close minded views.

 

Obama was the one that tried to make his point with statistics, I made an example of how close minded it was.

I get the not the 'no interacial' talk ban, peace.
- But you're confusing things.

I know what I seem like, it's certainly not anything like that.

[Lisa]

hey you guys, stop mucking up my why thread..go argue in your own!

Thanks for the answer even though I in no way agree with it Jarmo.

and D is just pissing about the guy cuz he thinks he(D) should have got some recognition for all the leaks he posted in his old site....just sayin

[D]

hey you guys, stop mucking up my why thread..go argue in your own!

Thanks for the answer even though I in no way agree with it Jarmo.

and D is just pissing about the guy cuz he thinks he(D) should have got some recognition for all the leaks he posted in his old site....just sayin

Oh please

I wouldn't want to be Kevin Cogill.

posting leaks on what was basically a private forum for 6 people is way different than promoting yourself to Rolling Stone and trying to come off like Jesus.

I got banned for that on here anyway remember? So I did my time.

Your Boss over at syndicate let us do his dirty work while he walked away hands clean.

[Lisa]

hey you guys, stop mucking up my why thread..go argue in your own!

Thanks for the answer even though I in no way agree with it Jarmo.

and D is just pissing about the guy cuz he thinks he(D) should have got some recognition for all the leaks he posted in his old site....just sayin

Oh please

I wouldn't want to be Kevin Cogill.

posting leaks on what was basically a private forum for 6 people is way different than promoting yourself to Rolling Stone and trying to come off like Jesus.

I got banned for that on here anyway remember? So I did my time.

Your Boss over at syndicate let us do his dirty work while he walked away hands clean.

oh bullshit D..YOU did the dirty work..you bragged about it, you posted them and wanted a huge pat on the ass for them and you know it.Don't try passing the buck as everyone else does..you basically bragged to all of us that you knew who he was and close to the GnR camp..you got banned from here for posting them cuz YOU thought it was a good idea...and for 6 people or 600, you were stillpart of the madness.

[D]

anybody want the story and the truth, hit me with a PM

Im no longer feeding this

Comparing me to this is just ridiculous

sharing something with 6 people compared to 600k is just ludicrous


I never said I had a problem with the leaks.

See this is the problem u guys have. U don't read the entire post

I have nothing against leaking

This guy goes beyond just sharing with a few friends though.

[Lisa]

oh please. ::)jesus D..thanks for the PM.

[norway]

How about just adding it to the jungle, in a piracy/downloading discussion thread?

Ssssssklermo.

[jarmo]

How about you shut up, Mmmmmmoron. 




/jarmo

[AdZ]

I sometimes become the stereotypes of racist, nazi and anti-semite purposedly to attack intoleranse.

You are absolutely retarded and make me sick.

[Robman?]

Did I miss something? 

[CheapJon]

not really, lame internet arguements, that's all

[norway]

You are absolutely retarded and make me sick.

Anti-nordite much?

Anyway, you're entitled your opinion, not as if it's based on reason as far as I can tell. Meh, why I reply?

[jarmo]

not really, lame internet arguements, that's all

You're anti-Nordite!

Your anti-Nordism makes me sick!

 



/jarmo


 

[Lisa]

anybody want the story and the truth, hit me with a PM

Im no longer feeding this

Comparing me to this is just ridiculous

sharing something with 6 people compared to 600k is just ludicrous


I never said I had a problem with the leaks.

See this is the problem u guys have. U don't read the entire post

I have nothing against leaking

This guy goes beyond just sharing with a few friends though.

and after you are done pm'ing D for his little story, you can pm me for the truth

[CheapJon]

anybody want the story and the truth, hit me with a PM

Im no longer feeding this

Comparing me to this is just ridiculous

sharing something with 6 people compared to 600k is just ludicrous


I never said I had a problem with the leaks.

See this is the problem u guys have. U don't read the entire post

I have nothing against leaking

This guy goes beyond just sharing with a few friends though.

and after you are done pm'ing D for his little story, you can pm me for the truth

if anyone wants the truth they'd better PM Matt Sorum

[Lisa]

HA!!! good one....gawd know we don't want the 'real' story to get out

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

anybody want the story and the truth, hit me with a PM

Im no longer feeding this

Comparing me to this is just ridiculous

sharing something with 6 people compared to 600k is just ludicrous


I never said I had a problem with the leaks.

See this is the problem u guys have. U don't read the entire post

I have nothing against leaking

This guy goes beyond just sharing with a few friends though.

and after you are done pm'ing D for his little story, you can pm me for the truth

if anyone wants the truth they'd better PM Matt Sorum

The truth, rock on!