2012 US Presidential Election.

[MR.BROWNSTONE]

Can use this thread for anything about this years election. Still got some time to go but here are the candidates.

Republicans:

Newt Gingrich

Ron Paul

Mitt Romney

Rick Santorum



Democrats:

Barack Obama

[CheapJon]

last election thread got over 800 pages.

this gets 1 post.

from a Swede!

[new gnr fan]

I think it doesn't matters who is the next president because it can't be worser than Bush or Obama.

[GeorgeSteele]

I'd like to see a political party formed whose platform promotes the Northern States seceding from the U.S. and joining Canada.  Not only would we get universal health care, we'd get a major national anthem upgrade. 

For the record, I know how unrealistic that is.  Canada would never take us. 

[new gnr fan]

I'd like to see a political party formed whose platform promotes the Northern States seceding from the U.S. and joining Canada.  Not only would we get universal health care, we'd get a major national anthem upgrade. 

For the record, I know how unrealistic that is.  Canada would never take us. 

Not Canada, but new foundet USSR? 

[Dr. Blutarsky]

There are other people running as 3rd party candidates.

I am going to take a look who is running as the Libertarian Party candidate before I decide. Don't always vote for the winning team!

Its still way to early for me to get out the pom poms for anyone. But I do know who I won't be voting for 

[Smoking Guns]

Time to get this going??

[westcoast_junkie]

American election is always fun! It's like a gigantic commercial

I hope the Americans have their brain intact so Obama can continue with what he's started 

[Sober_times]

American election is always fun! It's like a gigantic commercial

I hope the Americans have their brain intact so Obama can continue with what he's started 

It is like a giant commercial. Its hilarious. I love it and hate it the same time.

I'm in Texas and will be voting for Obama. Unfortunately i'm in the minority in these parts. State definitely going republican.

[axlrosegnr]

I just can't wait until the whole "big commercial" is over. It get's sickening.

[zosobob6]

American election is always fun! It's like a gigantic commercial

I hope the Americans have their brain intact so Obama can continue with what he's started 

It is like a giant commercial. Its hilarious. I love it and hate it the same time.

I'm in Texas and will be voting for Obama. Unfortunately i'm in the minority in these parts. State definitely going republican.

Thats about how I feel about it.  You and me are about the same too, Im here in Kentucky supporting Obama....and you know just like Texas, Kentucky aint gonna be voting for no black man.

[Smoking Guns]

Campaigns are so time consuming how can Barack get anything done?

[Smoking Guns]

The debates are going to be fun!

[Axl4Prez2004]

The debates are going to be fun!

Obama handed it to McCain 3 times in '08, and Biden handled Palin easily.

I think Ryan will be a lot tougher than Palin in the Veep debate...but a lot will hinge on Romney's performance. 
Obama gets a lot of crap for using teleprompters in speeches, but he obviously didn't use them when he debated Hillary and McCain in '08...and he only lost one debate that year...the one in Feb.? to Hillary.

The debates will definitely be fun.

[Smoking Guns]

Romney and Ryan are both much more Savy than McCain and Palin. Barack will have to be in defense mode because of his first 4 years. He could be on the attack in 2008 because he hadn't been pres yet and he had the hope and change thing going. Romney and Ryan and now play up how they will be different, like Obama did in 2008.

[LunsJail]

Romney and Ryan are both much more Savy than McCain and Palin. Barack will have to be in defense mode because of his first 4 years. He could be on the attack in 2008 because he hadn't been pres yet and he had the hope and change thing going. Romney and Ryan and now play up how they will be different, like Obama did in 2008.

I agree, the incumbents definitely have the advantage in that sense. However, I'm still waiting for Romney to actually talk about what his platform is rather than convince us the last 4 years have been a waste.

[Axl4Prez2004]

Romney and Ryan are both much more Savy than McCain and Palin. Barack will have to be in defense mode because of his first 4 years. He could be on the attack in 2008 because he hadn't been pres yet and he had the hope and change thing going. Romney and Ryan and now play up how they will be different, like Obama did in 2008.

Romney did improve as his Republican debates progressed.
Ryan's a wildcard for me, but anybody can outperform Palin.
One thing's for certain, a booming stock market and high 401k's are a plus for the Democrats.
Relatively high unemployment along with the biggest drought since the 1930's, make things tough on the incumbent.

The biggest challenge facing Romney and Ryan is the same thing McCain/Palin faced in '08.
The Republican candidate will have to try and convince citizens that:
a) lowering taxes on the wealthiest Americans, benefits MOST Americans...that will be difficult.
b) just like McCain, they have to tell the American people they will be cutting federal spending...spending that benefits many Americans.
and c)  okay, we're cutting spending...but who will they will be cutting benefits from?  Ryan's plan for Medicare is a definite political liability.

Just like T.O. said, "Getcha popcorn ready!"
 

 
       

[Dr. Blutarsky]

Obama has a tough road ahead of him. Unemployment is bad, really bad. Fiscally the country is in dire straits with the debt and he's done nothing but make it worse.

Romney still has to prove himself.

[Axl4Prez2004]

Obama has a tough road ahead of him. Unemployment is bad, really bad. Fiscally the country is in dire straits with the debt and he's done nothing but make it worse.

Romney still has to prove himself.

Again, as I said earlier, Romney will have to be quite persuasive to convince Americans lowering taxes on millionaires and billionaires will benefit a majority of Americans.
Also, in "swing" states, unemployment is better than the national average, which obviously benefits the president.

[Dr. Blutarsky]

Obama has a tough road ahead of him. Unemployment is bad, really bad. Fiscally the country is in dire straits with the debt and he's done nothing but make it worse.

Romney still has to prove himself.

Again, as I said earlier, Romney will have to be quite persuasive to convince Americans lowering taxes on millionaires and billionaires will benefit a majority of Americans.
Also, in "swing" states, unemployment is better than the national average, which obviously benefits the president.

Obama wants to raise taxes on people making over $250K which is hardly wealthy. I have no issue with asking MILLIONAIRES for more but we need to stop grossly wasting taxpayers money first.  An increase of money going down the toilet won't help matters.