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« on: January 29, 2016, 08:47:38 PM »

Slash is kind of a one-note player. Meaning he only does blues rock well. He can't do progressive or complex stuff, which is the direction Axl wanted to head in. We see the players Axl picked: Bucket, Bumblefoot - virtuoso players skilled in many different kinds of music, especially Bucket who could literally play anything. You had avant garde guys like Robin who could play a variety of different kinds of stuff, riffs and leads Slash would never dream of.

Now, Slash is back in the band. I have to question, could his presence hamper GN'R's musical progress? Axl said back in 2000 or so that Slash wasn't willing or able to take GN'R forward musically. Replacing Bumblefoot with Slash, in terms of pure talent, promise and ability, would be like Led Zeppelin replacing Jimmy Page with Keith Richards.
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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2016, 08:53:00 PM »

Progress? Don't talk about progress! You kidding me? Progress?
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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2016, 08:57:51 PM »

? "I originally wanted to do an Appetite-type of album, because that would have been a lot easier to do, but I was really not allowed to do that"

"What prevented you from doing like a traditional rock record?"

? "Slash."

"You could've found another guitar player, right?"

? "Somebody didn't come into my radar that would have replaced Slash in a proper way"





If they record new music, I don't think there's anything wrong with a "traditional rock" record. If Estranged is traditional rock, and they make another song like that.... well.
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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2016, 09:08:40 PM »

Progress? Don't talk about progress! You kidding me? Progress?

Progress! Haha! No chance, sadly. At this point we'd regard a lineup confirmation as progress, let alone new material!
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« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2016, 09:27:56 PM »

WTF?

There's a reason Slash has the respect of classic guitar players and new ones each day...There's a reason the Gn'r name is blowing up again...

My answer is a loud and clear - NO
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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2016, 09:35:28 PM »

I agree with the style comment. Slash has his style, and it's not something that's considered progressive or highly technical.

That said, I don't think you can claim he's holding GN'R back. Guns put out one album, and one live set, in his absence. They played lots of shows, and frankly, I loved the most recent line-up, but in no way is Slash holding anyone back. If they wanted, they could still put out some of the songs they have in the vault, or they could do new bluesy stuff with Slash, or anything else.
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2016, 10:07:16 PM »

You people saying Slash is not technical enough make me laugh.

Slash plays technically enough but knows when to stop.

If you play too technical, it sounds like atari masturbation.

Slash plays with feeling, which is what music is all about.

Slash could've probably learned how to play like buckethead and bumblefoot, but probably doesnt like that style.

Plus, he writes cool music on his own, BH and BBF do not.

As for Robin Fink playing stuff that Slash can't ? are you kidding me. I love Robin, but in the early 2000's he was struggling to play AFD.
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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2016, 10:11:38 PM »

I felt that the playing from BBF and DJ was a step back from Robin and Bucket. Slash is one of the main reasons we all came to love GNR from the start.
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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2016, 10:22:29 PM »

. Replacing Bumblefoot with Slash, in terms of pure talent, promise and ability, would be like Led Zeppelin replacing Jimmy Page with Keith Richards.

I know a lot of people, myself included, who prefer Keith Richards guitar playing to Jimmy Page, although they are more similar than Slash and Bumblefoot are to eachother.   Talent and ability only go so far, its more about what you do with the talent you have.  That's why Kurt Cobain and Billie Joe Armstrong are better known guitar players than Yngwie Malmsteen and John Petrucci.  Talent and ability wise, Cobain and Armstrong aren't in the same stratosphere as those guys, but when it comes to songwriting forget about it.  Each wrote genre defining records, (Billie Joe actually wrote 2 of them in seperate decades)  meanwhile most people couldn't even tell you who Malmsteen or Petrucci are, nevermind any songs they wrote.
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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2016, 10:28:28 PM »

I prefer Bucket's solo work over Slash's, but that doesn't mean the band would have Rocket Queen or Estranged for example with Bucket ...
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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2016, 10:54:35 PM »

Nah. Slash is a legend. You can definitely work with that. Having him in the fold allows Guns to progress in a different, "more traditional" way- but progress nonetheless IMHO. In a way- I kind of look at Axl as a great all-time NFL offensive coordinator- who through free agency or whatever was separated from his top weapons for several seasons. To his credit- he was able to improvise/create (brilliantly IMHO) w/o them and stay in the hunt- but now he's got his top weapons back and can gun for the title. Exciting times... ok
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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2016, 11:03:10 PM »

Robin is one of the worst guitar player to play Gn'R style. No Slash is not holding back gn'r. He has come home  beer
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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2016, 11:22:18 PM »

Not even a little bit.

His guitar sound is the band.  Not the whole band, obviously, but an enormous part of why I became a fan.

My only regret is that we didn't get more of what he had to offer under the GNR banner.  He's awesome.

I never got to terribly into his solo stuff.  But whenever it came on the radio, I instantly recognized that guitar and appreciated it.
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« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2016, 12:57:54 AM »

Dude hasn't even played his first show back yet.

I think he will be fine.
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« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2016, 01:05:59 AM »

No. Not even a little bit. There is nothing on CD better than slash's good work. Not slash's best, just his good stuff. Because to compare slash's best work to anything on CD is just unfair. And i love CD and think the is great guirars on there. But slash's best blows it all away.
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« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2016, 02:07:33 AM »


Plus, he writes cool music on his own, BH and BBF do not.

lol rofl yeah, right rofl you should check their stuff first, before you write something so utterly untrue.
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« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2016, 02:40:30 AM »

Yeah and what we got with prgrresive rock music...Now we haven't young band who replace bands like Guns n roses,Acdc,BonJovi,Pearl jam,Metallica...
I wanna see Slash part like on uyi era and everything will be perfect
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« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2016, 02:47:29 AM »

dude, progressive rock genre is something totally different and trust me, there are tons of bands. of course, not "replacing" those you wrote, those can be considered classic or radio rock, which was popular in the 1980's and early 1990's. that era is just completely gone, that's why such bands don't exist, or to be more accurate - of course exist, but are not that visible, because radios today play totally different... things (I hesitate to say "music" confused )
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« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2016, 03:46:31 AM »

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« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2016, 05:08:01 AM »

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