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« on: March 21, 2018, 09:42:18 AM »

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Guitar legend Angus Young is reportedly at work on a new AC/DC album with Axl Rose.

The Guns N? Roses frontman has leant his services to the band as touring singer in recent years, after Brian Johnson was forced to retire from performing after suffering from hearing loss.

After reports emerged earlier this year that the partnership between Young and Rose would be set to continue, Rose Tattoo frontman Angry Anderson has confirmed that the pair are currently writing new material together.

?I was talking to Angus earlier last year when we were doing the encores and we were opening for Guns ?n? Roses, but Angus and I were asked to do the encores and I said to him ?What are you going to do?? and he said ?Mate I?m writing a new album?,? he told The Rockpit.

?I thought ?cool? so I asked him who was in the band and he said ?Axl?.?


Read more at http://www.nme.com/news/music/angus-young-writing-new-acdc-album-axl-rose-2270741#UIwqC3DFvF4SJV7v.99
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« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2018, 10:03:20 AM »

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Guitar legend Angus Young is reportedly at work on a new AC/DC album with Axl Rose.

The Guns N? Roses frontman has leant his services to the band as touring singer in recent years, after Brian Johnson was forced to retire from performing after suffering from hearing loss.

After reports emerged earlier this year that the partnership between Young and Rose would be set to continue, Rose Tattoo frontman Angry Anderson has confirmed that the pair are currently writing new material together.

?I was talking to Angus earlier last year when we were doing the encores and we were opening for Guns ?n? Roses, but Angus and I were asked to do the encores and I said to him ?What are you going to do?? and he said ?Mate I?m writing a new album?,? he told The Rockpit.

?I thought ?cool? so I asked him who was in the band and he said ?Axl?.?


Read more at http://www.nme.com/news/music/angus-young-writing-new-acdc-album-axl-rose-2270741#UIwqC3DFvF4SJV7v.99


The NME is shit now - this has been doing the rounds for days, and comes from another news source. They're about a week behind with all their news!

I'll believe it when it happens, or is officially confirmed by AC/DC. Until then, it's just more speculation to me.
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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2018, 01:10:45 PM »

Should be interesting to see what kind of songs this will produce.

I'm thinking this could force Axl back in some sort of Appetite-way of writing lyrics, a little bit more straight-forward. The same could be said of the next GNR record, we know Axl wanted this back in the late 90s, but then Slash left.
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« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2018, 10:47:40 AM »



well now that there's two reliable sources who confirmed that Axl & Angus will write a new chapter of AC/DC
I'm curious aswell about what kind of lyrics he'll write and how it can influence AC/DC stuff. could be less
self-centered and maybe more social & political...well, the timing between AC/DC & Guns will be interesting to
see to, I suppose we can have two albums, but touring will be a problem (for Guns)
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« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2018, 10:59:32 AM »

Should be interesting to see what kind of songs this will produce.

I'm thinking this could force Axl back in some sort of Appetite-way of writing lyrics, a little bit more straight-forward. The same could be said of the next GNR record, we know Axl wanted this back in the late 90s, but then Slash left.

what..?. I thought Axl was doint NIN in late 90's, not "Appetite-way."
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well now that there's two reliable sources who confirmed that Axl & Angus will write a new chapter of AC/DC
I'm curious aswell about what kind of lyrics he'll write and how it can influence AC/DC stuff. could be less
self-centered and maybe more social & political...well, the timing between AC/DC & Guns will be interesting to
see to, I suppose we can have two albums, but touring will be a problem (for Guns)

I do agree that it's an interesting environment for Axl. He has respect for his elders so his effort won't come from trying to control, but rather from trying to impress, which I think is more freeing for him and will be more productive artistically.
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« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2018, 11:37:46 AM »

Should be interesting to see what kind of songs this will produce.

I'm thinking this could force Axl back in some sort of Appetite-way of writing lyrics, a little bit more straight-forward. The same could be said of the next GNR record, we know Axl wanted this back in the late 90s, but then Slash left.

what..?. I thought Axl was doint NIN in late 90's, not "Appetite-way."

I the Loder interview, he said he originally wanted to do an Appetite-type of record, probably reflecting back to 95-96. Once Slash left he sought out different alternatives.
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« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2018, 12:58:00 PM »

Should be interesting to see what kind of songs this will produce.

I'm thinking this could force Axl back in some sort of Appetite-way of writing lyrics, a little bit more straight-forward. The same could be said of the next GNR record, we know Axl wanted this back in the late 90s, but then Slash left.

what..?. I thought Axl was doint NIN in late 90's, not "Appetite-way."

I the Loder interview, he said he originally wanted to do an Appetite-type of record, probably reflecting back to 95-96. Once Slash left he sought out different alternatives.

Hmm Sure if you only read that interview you might arrive to that conclusion, but there's been plenty of other statements and evidence to point to different directions.
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« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2018, 02:26:30 PM »



well, now that we know Slash is doing a new solo record it is reasonable to think
that Axl will work with Angus in that same space of time, meaning no GNR album
in the near future. Slash will tour with The Conspirators and Axl with AC/DC.

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« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2018, 02:56:17 PM »


Hmm Sure if you only read that interview you might arrive to that conclusion, but there's been plenty of other statements and evidence to point to different directions.

Well, he pretty much says it straight out.



From the interview:

Loder: What have you been doing for the last six and a half years, since the last tour ended?

Rose: Trying to figure out how to make a record.

Loder: Ah, you already knew how to do that, right?

Rose: I originally wanted to make a traditional record or try to get back to an "Appetite [For Destruction]" thing or something, because that would have been a lot easier for me to do. I was involved in a lot of lawsuits for Guns N' Roses and in my own personal life, so I didn't have a lot of time to try and develop a new style or re-invent myself, so I was hoping to write a traditional thing, but I was not really allowed to do that.

Loder: What prevented you from doing, like, a traditional rock record?

Rose: Slash.

Loder: [Laughs] But you could have found another guitar player or something, right?

Rose: Well, not really.... Not to make a true Guns record. It's kind of like, I don't know, if you know somebody has a relationship, and there's difficulties in that, and Mr. or Mrs. Right doesn't kind of just stumble into their path, or they don't stumble across that person, they can't really get on with things. Somebody didn't come into my radar that would have really replaced Slash in a proper way.

Loder: Yeah.

Rose: And it really wasn't something we were trying to do. We were trying to make things work with Slash for a very, very long time... about three and a half years.



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Hmm Sure if you only read that interview you might arrive to that conclusion, but there's been plenty of other statements and evidence to point to different directions.

Well, he pretty much says it straight out.



From the interview:

Loder: What have you been doing for the last six and a half years, since the last tour ended?

Rose: Trying to figure out how to make a record.

Loder: Ah, you already knew how to do that, right?

Rose: I originally wanted to make a traditional record or try to get back to an "Appetite [For Destruction]" thing or something, because that would have been a lot easier for me to do. I was involved in a lot of lawsuits for Guns N' Roses and in my own personal life, so I didn't have a lot of time to try and develop a new style or re-invent myself, so I was hoping to write a traditional thing, but I was not really allowed to do that.

Loder: What prevented you from doing, like, a traditional rock record?

Rose: Slash.

Loder: [Laughs] But you could have found another guitar player or something, right?

Rose: Well, not really.... Not to make a true Guns record. It's kind of like, I don't know, if you know somebody has a relationship, and there's difficulties in that, and Mr. or Mrs. Right doesn't kind of just stumble into their path, or they don't stumble across that person, they can't really get on with things. Somebody didn't come into my radar that would have really replaced Slash in a proper way.

Loder: Yeah.

Rose: And it really wasn't something we were trying to do. We were trying to make things work with Slash for a very, very long time... about three and a half years.



http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=28

Yeah, that's obviously bullshit. Slash presented him with the riffs for 5 O Clock Somewhere and Axl rejected them saying it wasn't the direction he wanted to go in.
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well now that there's two reliable sources who confirmed that Axl & Angus will write a new chapter of AC/DC
I'm curious aswell about what kind of lyrics he'll write and how it can influence AC/DC stuff. could be less
self-centered and maybe more social & political...well, the timing between AC/DC & Guns will be interesting to
see to, I suppose we can have two albums, but touring will be a problem (for Guns)

Social/political AC/DC album?  rofl

Axl is a huge fan of AC/DC and Bon, so he will know to respect the legacy and write witty, humorous and sexual lyrics.

"Gonna bend you like a G-string
Conduct you like a choir"

"As you lie there, naked
Like a body in a tomb
Suspended animation
As I slip into your room"

And occasionally the serious:

"I know that it's evil
I know that it's got to be
No, I ain't doing much
Doing nothing means a lot to me

Feelin' like a paper cup
Floatin' down the storm drain
Got myself a sailin' boat
But I can't afford a drop of rain"
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Yeah, that's obviously bullshit. Slash presented him with the riffs for 5 O Clock Somewhere and Axl rejected them saying it wasn't the direction he wanted to go in.


I don't know about "obviously bullshit". It's certainly what he felt like at the time of the interview, but things could certainly have been more nuanced than what comes through there.

I couldn't find any sources where he actually said that Slash's material wasn't the direction he wanted to go in. Though, I know I've read somewhere he thought some of the material was worth working on, but not all. It seemed like in his mind it was about the quality/potential of the material, not direction.

Some interviews mention Axl's interest in electronic elements to the music, so yeah there probably was a certain degree of wanting to evolve the songwriting at the time just after the UYI tour.
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well now that there's two reliable sources who confirmed that Axl & Angus will write a new chapter of AC/DC
I'm curious aswell about what kind of lyrics he'll write and how it can influence AC/DC stuff. could be less
self-centered and maybe more social & political...well, the timing between AC/DC & Guns will be interesting to
see to, I suppose we can have two albums, but touring will be a problem (for Guns)

Social/political AC/DC album?  rofl

Axl is a huge fan of AC/DC and Bon, so he will know to respect the legacy and write witty, humorous and sexual lyrics.


you would have used the same smiley if I'd told you 5 years ago that Axl will be the next ACDC singer. 

it's not because Axl is a huge fan of Bon that he will emulate Bon's lyrics and wearing a jeans jacket either,
it would be as ridiculous as it sounds. plus, it would be counterproductive in the goal to be accepted by
ACDC's fanbase. (look what happened when DJ Ashba tried to poorly emulate Slash)

what I said is writing for AC/DC would be a different exercice than in GNR, way less autobiographic and
self centered, and I don't see Axl singing about beers & boobs, and yeah social comments would not surprised
me on a "in your face" LP who'll come out under Trump's presidency...




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Hmm Sure if you only read that interview you might arrive to that conclusion, but there's been plenty of other statements and evidence to point to different directions.

Well, he pretty much says it straight out.



From the interview:

Loder: What have you been doing for the last six and a half years, since the last tour ended?

Rose: Trying to figure out how to make a record.

Loder: Ah, you already knew how to do that, right?

Rose: I originally wanted to make a traditional record or try to get back to an "Appetite [For Destruction]" thing or something, because that would have been a lot easier for me to do. I was involved in a lot of lawsuits for Guns N' Roses and in my own personal life, so I didn't have a lot of time to try and develop a new style or re-invent myself, so I was hoping to write a traditional thing, but I was not really allowed to do that.

Loder: What prevented you from doing, like, a traditional rock record?

Rose: Slash.

Loder: [Laughs] But you could have found another guitar player or something, right?

Rose: Well, not really.... Not to make a true Guns record. It's kind of like, I don't know, if you know somebody has a relationship, and there's difficulties in that, and Mr. or Mrs. Right doesn't kind of just stumble into their path, or they don't stumble across that person, they can't really get on with things. Somebody didn't come into my radar that would have really replaced Slash in a proper way.

Loder: Yeah.

Rose: And it really wasn't something we were trying to do. We were trying to make things work with Slash for a very, very long time... about three and a half years.



http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=28

Yeah, that's obviously bullshit. Slash presented him with the riffs for 5 O Clock Somewhere and Axl rejected them saying it wasn't the direction he wanted to go in.

It's not bullshit at all. Axl wanted to do a quick appetite style album. Slash did present riffs and so vs to be used but wanted them used as is. Axl thought there was promise in them but wanted to work on making them into something better but slash wouldn't let him. It's been backed up by duff or gilby can't remember which one.
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Hmm Sure if you only read that interview you might arrive to that conclusion, but there's been plenty of other statements and evidence to point to different directions.

Well, he pretty much says it straight out.



From the interview:

Loder: What have you been doing for the last six and a half years, since the last tour ended?

Rose: Trying to figure out how to make a record.

Loder: Ah, you already knew how to do that, right?

Rose: I originally wanted to make a traditional record or try to get back to an "Appetite [For Destruction]" thing or something, because that would have been a lot easier for me to do. I was involved in a lot of lawsuits for Guns N' Roses and in my own personal life, so I didn't have a lot of time to try and develop a new style or re-invent myself, so I was hoping to write a traditional thing, but I was not really allowed to do that.

Loder: What prevented you from doing, like, a traditional rock record?

Rose: Slash.

Loder: [Laughs] But you could have found another guitar player or something, right?

Rose: Well, not really.... Not to make a true Guns record. It's kind of like, I don't know, if you know somebody has a relationship, and there's difficulties in that, and Mr. or Mrs. Right doesn't kind of just stumble into their path, or they don't stumble across that person, they can't really get on with things. Somebody didn't come into my radar that would have really replaced Slash in a proper way.

Loder: Yeah.

Rose: And it really wasn't something we were trying to do. We were trying to make things work with Slash for a very, very long time... about three and a half years.



http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=28

Yeah, that's obviously bullshit. Slash presented him with the riffs for 5 O Clock Somewhere and Axl rejected them saying it wasn't the direction he wanted to go in.

It's not bullshit at all. Axl wanted to do a quick appetite style album. Slash did present riffs and so vs to be used but wanted them used as is. Axl thought there was promise in them but wanted to work on making them into something better but slash wouldn't let him. It's been backed up by duff or gilby can't remember which one.


The fact alone that the thought about reinventing himself crossed his mind means that the obvious and only choice was not just do a traditional record. And My World was part of that too.
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Hmm Sure if you only read that interview you might arrive to that conclusion, but there's been plenty of other statements and evidence to point to different directions.

Well, he pretty much says it straight out.



From the interview:

Loder: What have you been doing for the last six and a half years, since the last tour ended?

Rose: Trying to figure out how to make a record.

Loder: Ah, you already knew how to do that, right?

Rose: I originally wanted to make a traditional record or try to get back to an "Appetite [For Destruction]" thing or something, because that would have been a lot easier for me to do. I was involved in a lot of lawsuits for Guns N' Roses and in my own personal life, so I didn't have a lot of time to try and develop a new style or re-invent myself, so I was hoping to write a traditional thing, but I was not really allowed to do that.

Loder: What prevented you from doing, like, a traditional rock record?

Rose: Slash.

Loder: [Laughs] But you could have found another guitar player or something, right?

Rose: Well, not really.... Not to make a true Guns record. It's kind of like, I don't know, if you know somebody has a relationship, and there's difficulties in that, and Mr. or Mrs. Right doesn't kind of just stumble into their path, or they don't stumble across that person, they can't really get on with things. Somebody didn't come into my radar that would have really replaced Slash in a proper way.

Loder: Yeah.

Rose: And it really wasn't something we were trying to do. We were trying to make things work with Slash for a very, very long time... about three and a half years.



http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=28

Yeah, that's obviously bullshit. Slash presented him with the riffs for 5 O Clock Somewhere and Axl rejected them saying it wasn't the direction he wanted to go in.

It's not bullshit at all. Axl wanted to do a quick appetite style album. Slash did present riffs and so vs to be used but wanted them used as is. Axl thought there was promise in them but wanted to work on making them into something better but slash wouldn't let him. It's been backed up by duff or gilby can't remember which one.


The fact alone that the thought about reinventing himself crossed his mind means that the obvious and only choice was not just do a traditional record. And My World was part of that too.

Read what was posted above again. It's clear as day what Axl says. He wasn't able to reinvent himself so he wanted to do a more traditional record as it would have been quicker and easier.  It can't be any more plain dude.  Huh
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Yeah, that's obviously bullshit. Slash presented him with the riffs for 5 O Clock Somewhere and Axl rejected them saying it wasn't the direction he wanted to go in.


I don't know about "obviously bullshit". It's certainly what he felt like at the time of the interview, but things could certainly have been more nuanced than what comes through there.

I couldn't find any sources where he actually said that Slash's material wasn't the direction he wanted to go in. Though, I know I've read somewhere he thought some of the material was worth working on, but not all. It seemed like in his mind it was about the quality/potential of the material, not direction.

Some interviews mention Axl's interest in electronic elements to the music, so yeah there probably was a certain degree of wanting to evolve the songwriting at the time just after the UYI tour.

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Axl said, "that's not the kind of music I want to do". I said, "okay" and took it back

http://www.slashparadise.com/media/interviews-slash/coiled-and-ready-rolling-stone-april-1995.pdf


you would have used the same smiley if I'd told you 5 years ago that Axl will be the next ACDC singer. 

it's not because Axl is a huge fan of Bon that he will emulate Bon's lyrics and wearing a jeans jacket either,
it would be as ridiculous as it sounds. plus, it would be counterproductive in the goal to be accepted by
ACDC's fanbase. (look what happened when DJ Ashba tried to poorly emulate Slash)

what I said is writing for AC/DC would be a different exercice than in GNR, way less autobiographic and
self centered, and I don't see Axl singing about beers & boobs, and yeah social comments would not surprised
me on a "in your face" LP who'll come out under Trump's presidency...

Not saying he'll copy Bon, but that will be his influence and he wants to do right by the legacy. You don't have to be political to be in your face. Regardless, I don't think Angus would agree to it. The Youngs are notoriously strict about running AC/DC the way they want to, and that hasn't changed in the past 50 years, I doubt it will in Angus' 70s.


Read what was posted above again. It's clear as day what Axl says. He wasn't able to reinvent himself so he wanted to do a more traditional record as it would have been quicker and easier.  It can't be any more plain dude.  Huh

... except he did reinvent himself. Huh

Sorry but I don't buy that Axl ever seriously wanted to pump out a quick album. His entire career has shown the opposite.
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« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2018, 07:53:41 AM »


Not saying he'll copy Bon, but that will be his influence and he wants to do right by the legacy. You don't have to be political to be in your face. Regardless, I don't think Angus would agree to it. The Youngs are notoriously strict about running AC/DC the way they want to, and that hasn't changed in the past 50 years, I doubt it will in Angus' 70s.


sure you don't have to be political to be in your face, but there's a context these days.

"The Youngs" doesn't really exists anymore since Malcolm Young passed away and
Angus wrote the lyrics with him for the last albums, so there's a chance for Axl to
write there, but maybe Angus will write everything, who knows.


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http://www.slashparadise.com/media/interviews-slash/coiled-and-ready-rolling-stone-april-1995.pdf


Hmm, you're putting 100% confidence in a quote from one interview, while totally dismissing what was said in another.

You're of course totally entitled to wave off Axl's thoughts about the subject as "obvious bullshit", but personally I think there is something to it. Axl may have made a bad decision in not working on the material presented to him, but I don't think his reasons are clear cut.
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